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| :The main article for human rights in Moldova is ]. That is the article which focuses on the topic. ] is a subtopic of human rights of Moldova, and thus the main Moldovan article should cover everything. ] (]) 00:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC) | :The main article for human rights in Moldova is ]. That is the article which focuses on the topic. ] is a subtopic of human rights of Moldova, and thus the main Moldovan article should cover everything. ] (]) 00:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
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| Dear fellow editors, please stop making decisions based on stereotypes, and actually check the facts. In this case, the Moldovan census form had no checklist for nationality, every person could literally write in anything in field . The fact that you simply don't like certain facts is not reason enough to ignore them.] (]) 10:53, 12 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Music
A lot of people are familiar with this country from Sergy Stepanov, or the "Epic Sax Guy", a Youtube and internet sensation. Should he or the music show be included in this article? 99.231.232.207 (talk) 03:16, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
"He has been fittingly dubbed "Epic Sax Guy."" This sentence displays an nonobjective association between "epic" and pelvic thrusting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.4.245 (talk) 01:14, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Map
The seperatist movement in Transnistria is not recognized by any country or organization in the world. The region is recognized part of Moldova's territorial integrity and sovereignty. So there really is no reason so highlight the seperatist region, it is already mentioned properly a couple times in the article. This should be correctly reflected in the map of the infobox. Neftchi (talk) 10:09, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Transnistria has minor if unconvincing recognition, but that aside, it's a simple fact that Moldova has no actual control over the territory in question, and never really has. The placing of it in a different shade of green balances both Moldovan and Transnistrian POV's. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- The question is what exacly is a map supposed to show? Territorial integrity and sovereignty or de-jure and de-facto control? There is no such regulation on these issues, thats why I suggest using the standard map untill this issue is solved. I also think this map needs to be a zoom in section, no offense but Moldova is a small country and a zoom in can will be helpful to many readers. Neftchi (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- I suppose it's supposed to show the country. No map can show 'territorial integrity', that being an abstract concept. As for the zoom, that'd be good, but it'd have to be standardised with other smaller European countries. Interesting proposal though. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:24, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Neftchi, the shades of green and light green actually are not discernable on current unzoomed version. Brandmeister t 13:38, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- I suppose it's supposed to show the country. No map can show 'territorial integrity', that being an abstract concept. As for the zoom, that'd be good, but it'd have to be standardised with other smaller European countries. Interesting proposal though. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:24, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- The question is what exacly is a map supposed to show? Territorial integrity and sovereignty or de-jure and de-facto control? There is no such regulation on these issues, thats why I suggest using the standard map untill this issue is solved. I also think this map needs to be a zoom in section, no offense but Moldova is a small country and a zoom in can will be helpful to many readers. Neftchi (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
No Sax Guy???
Honestly, this is the only reason Americans have heard of this country. Run Away is an internet meme. Hamolton (talk) 15:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC) Sorry for the rant, delete as you wish.
- Um, no. I heard of Moldova/Moldavia in history courses as early as the 6th grade, then very heavily in college history courses, not to mention looking at it on a large globe we had in our family. And it's mentioned in Dracula; today it is often in the current-events news. Many people will have 'heard' of this country from many different sources; and I have no idea who "Sax Guy" is. HammerFilmFan (talk) 00:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
- Doesn't sound like encyclopedic material to me. Also, we don't want to bring down the article to the lowest common denominator. man with one red shoe 16:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Alphabet Issues
This issue have been risen in the past, but I have to address it again, because the current state of the relevant Misplaced Pages section is too politically biased.
Why it is written that _IN CONTRAST_ Moldovan was written in Cyryllic while Romanian in Latin”. Yes, there were different alphabets for the same language, but this has just happened historically and not done by Soviets specifically to confront Romanian vs Moldavian identities, as it is written. Cyrillic alphabet is mainly used by countries which practice Orthodox Cristianity, and Cyryllic was used in Moldova since Stephen the Great (Prince of Moldavia between 1457 and 1504), so Cyrillic was always used in Chisinau. Why don’t we write on Misplaced Pages that the differences in alphabet were historical and religious, and not political? If you tell me that Moldovan Cyrillic was different from the Cyrillyc in Russian language, and Soviets did change Moldovan Cyrillic to be exactly like Russian Cyrillic, this was also a technical measure (alphabet/language reform) rather than a political measure. It was easier to make small adjustments in the Cyrillic alphabet to comply to the modern standards than to switch entirely to Latin. When the language evolves over centuries, so the alphabet evolves. Russia did by itself several times have made some reforms to the Cyrillic alphabet it have used for the Russian language, so why the reform of Cyrillic used for Romanian language in Moldova is considered on Misplaced Pages an act of opposition of Moldovan vs Romanian languages, and to promote distinct cultural identities? Maxim Masiutin (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC).
- Mainly due to what is written in the Creation of Moldavian ASSR (and the next one) section of the Moldovenism article. --illythr (talk) 18:29, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- The alphabet issue is not related to Moldovenism. As you know, it was Stephen the Great (Prince of Moldavia between 1457 and 1504) who have introduced Cyrillic, long before the Moldovenism took place. ---Maxim Masiutin (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC).
- While the section contents might need some swapping around between articles, the information about the promotion of a separate Moldovan identity is there. The "in contrast" bit is accurate because the Moldovan language was to "stick to the roots" in contrast to Romanian, which was "sold to the French bourgeoisie" and switched to Latin some fifty years ago. --illythr (talk) 21:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- The alphabet issue is not related to Moldovenism. As you know, it was Stephen the Great (Prince of Moldavia between 1457 and 1504) who have introduced Cyrillic, long before the Moldovenism took place. ---Maxim Masiutin (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC).
Human rights
Human rights in Moldova are discussed in two articles: Human rights in Moldova and Human rights in Transnistria. Therefore both of them are "main" articles for subsection "Human rights". I fail to see the reason why Chipmunkdavis disagrees with this. His edit summaries are self-contradictory: he writes Transnistria is part of Moldova, and thus its human rights should be discussed in the Moldovan article and under this reason he reverts my edit which serves precisely this purpose. Logofat de Chichirez (talk) 23:03, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
- The main article for human rights in Moldova is Human rights in Moldova. That is the article which focuses on the topic. Human rights in Transnistria is a subtopic of human rights of Moldova, and thus the main Moldovan article should cover everything. CMD (talk) 00:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
- OK. I understand it now. Logofat de Chichirez (talk) 01:48, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Census forms
Dear fellow editors, please stop making decisions based on stereotypes, and actually check the facts. In this case, the Moldovan census form had no checklist for nationality, every person could literally write in anything in field No. 7. The fact that you simply don't like certain facts is not reason enough to ignore them.Anonimu (talk) 10:53, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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