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Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada/Prototype

Thank you for participating in the WikiProject on Electoral districts in Canada. As you know there will be an election soon. So this may be the best time for the Canadian Misplaced Pages community to band together and write these articles on current federal electoral districts. Based on your comments, and the comments of others, I have put together a prototype layout at the above link. The prototype is not a final proposal. It is just a place to start from, where we can discuss and experiment. Please review it, comment but keep an open mind, and help form a concensus. --maclean25 01:06, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Template:Kylie

Hi. I see that you reverted my edits to Template:Kylie, and I thought I'd caution you about your misuse of the administrators' rollback feature. Per Misplaced Pages:Revert, "Rollbacks should be used with caution and restraint. Reverting a good-faith edit may send the message that "I think your edit was no better than vandalism and doesn't deserve even the courtesy of an explanatory edit summary." It is a slap in the face to a good-faith editor; do not abuse it. If you insist on using the rollback feature for non-vandalism edits, be sure to explain on the talk page of the user whose edit(s) you reverted." Also, anybody who was browsing Special:Recentchanges at the time or looking at the edit history for the template may get the wrong impression that my edits were vandalism, when they were not. I compressed the template because I feel that it is large and unwieldy, and this had been a problem with Template:Mariah Carey2 (see this TFD debate) and others. So I compressed it to include a link to Minogue's discography article. If you still do not agree with this, please reply at Template talk:Kylie. Thanks. Extraordinary Machine 13:50, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Request

Hello,

This has nothing to do with Canadian politics, but I'm wondering if you could look over the discussion on Talk:Gregory Lauder-Frost.

I have reason to believe that a small number of people have been attempting to use Misplaced Pages for narrow partisan ends, writing glowing articles on figures from Britain's far-right. This is potentially a matter of some importance for Misplaced Pages's credibility.

Thank you, CJCurrie 18:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Image replaced and up for deletion

Hi, I've replaced the image Image:Calgaryflag.jpg, uploaded by you, with Image:Flag of Calgary, Alberta.svg because SVG is a more suitable format for images with no photographic content. The original image has been listed for deletion—hope this is OK. –Mysid 07:17, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

List of countries by number of active troops

You are vandal. If you don't speek russian, I am speak and in the site of russian Ministry of Defense write: 1.01.04-1.286.00active troops , 1.01.05-1.140.00 active troops;Roitr 14:30, 9 December 2005

Your source in my opinion not consistent and in it have not absolutely exact information. I only wish to help to you and to give the correct information which precisely I know. Site of russian Ministry of Defense for me is more authoritative, than a World Almanac. Yours article calling "List of countries by number of active troops", but not "List of countries by number of active troops by World Almanac". It is good to use by World Almanac, when there is not other exact data, but if we have more authoritative resources we should use them. If you will change the page again, I shall be compelled to create another page and call it "List of countries by currently number of active troops". And please it is not necessary to frighten me of blocking. Roitr 19:35, 9 December 2005

???

Why you revert all the modifications that I DO... I pass 5 hours to work on the article of the borougs of MONTREAl and I discurved taht they have a lot of problem... For a lot of borough, they are TWO pages... It is anormal... If I want a information for a borough, you have to search on 2 pages.... it's crazy. So I erase one page and I past all the second page on the one page. All what I delete on a page is on the other page because I past it. It's more simple to have one page for one subject... So, please talk me before you do revert beacuse It's a lot of work that I do. Sincerely, Orthodoxe 19:39, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. But, Iwill sujest you to inform the person that you revert for the motivation of the revert. Now, Why you revert Montréal-Nord because the official name is in French and not in english.

User categorisation

You were listed on the Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians by alma mater page. As part of the Misplaced Pages:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians by alma mater for instructions. --Cooksey 21:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Polling charts

Do you have any plans to do an SES polling chart similar to those you've done for several of the other pollsters for the 06 election? I would do one but it would probably look better for them all to have the same look and feel so I will defer to you if you are planning to do one. - Jord 13:56, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Great, I'll leave it to you then :) - Jord 19:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Larrymccormick.jpg has been listed for deletion

Image:Lawrencedobrien.jpg has been listed for deletion

North Bay

I know MapArt says Birch Haven, but Billbob21 insists that in his experience as a resident of North Bay it's called Birchaven...whatever else you do to the article, could you leave that particular change alone until we can get some kind of third-party confirmation? Thanx much.Bearcat 19:45, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Quick Stats

Hello, I was trying to think of a way quick way to convey NHL statistics quickly, without doing it in paragraph form which does not look very good. I think I created a quick way to do this, check out the Steve Thomas (hockey). Let me know what you think. Croat Canuck 05:54, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh and I completely agree with you that it must get expanded. What I'm saying is I will go through bio articles that do not have any stats at all and put in that quick box. I'm not saying it should be permanent by any stretch of the imagination, just temporary until another user finds time to complete the stats section. Its more meant for stubs. Croat Canuck 15:46, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Ridings

I find it amusing how there were so many people interested in decided what should go into riding articles, but only about four of us willing to do the work. Keep up the great work! Ground Zero | t 19:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

-D Well, right now I am focused on writing articles on candidates who have a good chance of winning. This means adding to riding articles to provide more links :) --NDP logo Earl Andrew - talk 20:26, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Zamboni.jpg

Hi. Looking at the history for this image, it is not clear to me what its copyright status is. Did you take this photograph and release it into the Public Domain? Another user seems to be claiming that you did. Sorry to bother you, and thanks ahead of time for clearing up the confusion. Jkelly 22:45, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I notice that Image:Danielalfredsson.jpg has no source. Please see Misplaced Pages:Fair use for more information about what is needed for copyright-infringing images. Jkelly 23:08, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

In regards to your response, I strongly suggest that you review Misplaced Pages:Fair use. In order to use an image we need information on its source, who owns the copyright and a detailed fair use rationale. Simply saying "promo" is not enough information. If you're aware of other images that you or others have uploaded that are copyright-infringing without meeting Fair use standards, you can help out by tagging them with all of the necessary information, or further help out at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Fair use. Thanks. Jkelly 01:51, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you feel that I need to be nicer, but I am puzzled by your surety that simply saying "promotional" (tag or no tag) is enough. Please trust me in that if you read Misplaced Pages:Fair use and Misplaced Pages:Publicity photos you will see that it isn't. Jkelly 01:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Swedish-Canadians

I'm puzzled by that as well, but this IP has been putting them up Swedish players on other players as Swedish-Canadians, such as Peter Forsberg and Niklas Sundstrom. I have reverted the obvious ones, and I think I'll do the same with Alfredsson (and did it on Sundin, captain of the greatest team in the world, ha ha ha). Croat Canuck 01:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I will give you that the Sens are the best team so far... but its the playoffs that matter; you'd better hope they don't face the Leafs in the playoffs. 5 straight anybody? Croat Canuck 01:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Fine, you like Ottawa and I like Toronto...However I tell ya, those Kitchener Rangers are 10x better than those Kilrea-whipped Ottawa 67's. I'm sorry to yank your chain, I just love to make fun of other people's favourite teams (as long as their not the same as mine). Croat Canuck 03:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes I concur, Kilrea is a good coach. So is DeBoer. Both better than Quinn in my opinion. Also the Senator's old goalie is much, much better than the Leaf's old goalie. So I'll give you that. Croat Canuck 04:09, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Ouch! Low blow! Actually, the 1 game I went to wasn't even a Leafs game. It was a Buffalo vs. Philadelphia in one of the last games at the old Buffalo Aud. Probably the best game to go to also, 6-5, bench-clearing brawl, etc... It was great, but it was almost 10 years ago in March, 1996. I do think it is time to go to another game, but who can afford Leafs tickets? Or who can get them? Its much more efficient to watch them on TV. Sundin's better than Alfredsson. Croat Canuck 05:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah I was like 8 or 9, tagging along with my older brother's hockey team who played an exhibition game at the Aud that afternoon. Sundin is so better than Alfredsson, look at the stats! He also has been around longer, been more consistent, and has never had a bad hairdo. I don't see Alfredsson being talked about for the Hall of Fame. Croat Canuck 05:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid this argument would need to be solved by an impartial third party according to Misplaced Pages rules. I am confident that every impartial user on WikiProject Ice Hockey will say that overall Sundin is a better player than Alfredsson. That's enough for me. Croat Canuck 06:04, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I got 4 words for you: linemates and ice time. I'm sure Alfredsson has been given every chance to play with the great players Ottawa has gotten in the present in past (Spezza and Heatley, c'mon). Sundin's had to play on the same line with the likes of Jonas Hoglund or Mikael Renberg. Never been given a chance to play on a line with skilled players. Also, Quinn for some reason loathes to play Sundin more than 20 minutes a game (ever since he got here!). Meanwhile Alfredsson gets 22, 23 minutes per game. You also reference trophies, what about clutch? Sundin has the record for most career overtime goals, and is always the Leafs best player in the playoffs. Yep, better than Alfredsson. Croat Canuck 06:19, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it's a miracle that Sundin has gotten 12 consecutive 70-plus point season with the crap around him. Imagine Sundin on a line with Marian Hossa or Dany Heatley, craziness. Internationally too, Sundin has done much more for Sweden in inter. play than Alfredsson can ever dream about. Croat Canuck 06:37, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Two more minutes a game: Give that to Sundin and we're talking about top-3 best players in the NHL. But Hey, I'm sure we can both agree that both of them are much better than Saku Koivu. I hope no Canadians fans read this or we'll have a three-way Scandanavian Captain Slamfest! Croat Canuck 06:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey I love the fact that each Canadian team has a distinguishable face that has been there for a long time (Calgary-Jarome Iginla, Edmonton-Ryan Smyth), tis a golden age for the Canadian hockey teams. But that's besides the point. I wasn't dissing Koivu, but Sundin and Alfredsson ARE better players than him. But I would say that Naslund is below Sundin but above Alfredsson in goodness. After all, Naslund and Sundin have each scored 100+ points before, and Alfredsson has never gotten better than 80. Croat Canuck 07:17, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I disagree, because the Big Line has slowed down considerably due to the injuries to Havlat, and then Bochenski. Alfredsson's pace has slowed down a lot. He needs to get 114 points just to tie Sundin's career high... Oh well no matter, Kaberle and McCabe are better than Redden and Chara anyways. Croat Canuck 07:48, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I know Boch and Havl didn't play on Alfredsson's line, but now all the opposing defense has to do is focus on the big line and that in turn produces less points for Alfie. Also, I thought you said screw international play, so Redden's olympic nomination don't matter. Ummm.... who's leading the league in points by a defenseman by far? McCabe. Who's 4th in assists and ahead of Redden in points? Kaberle. Chara's just a big lug. Croat Canuck 08:12, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

As it is, we will both probably have to archive just this "discussion" alone, it is has been long. Why don't we just agree that Sundin's better than Alfredsson, and Chadden is better than McKaberle, by the slightest of margins. Croat Canuck 08:18, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Well it goes against the rest of the LeafNation, but I'll agree to that. We'll show you in the playoffs where it really matters, instead of the late-night user talk pages on Misplaced Pages. Croat Canuck 08:24, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Shubenacadie

Hi, if you're going to move Shubenacadie you should take care of fixing all the redirects as well. There aren't that many to take care of. Badagnani 03:29, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Map

Hello. How did you make Image:Gaymap.PNG, did you draw it with a vector program or have you got a program that makes maps like this? — Wackymacs 10:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey thanks for replying to my question - can you link me to this world map widely available on Misplaced Pages? I can't seem to find it. — Wackymacs 19:35, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Cyclinglogo.jpg

Some time ago you uploaded Image:Cyclinglogo.jpg and labeled it as a logo. I'm not convinced it's a logo of any organization; it looks more like a clip art image to me. I've labeled the image as having no source information, which makes the image eligible for deletion after seven days. If you would like to add information about the source and copyright status of this image, please do so. —Bkell 21:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Ice Storm of January 1998

This is a broadcast message for users that voted to select this article as the Canadian collaboration. It has been selected for the January 2006 collaboration period. Congratulations, and happy editing! Mindmatrix 17:29, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

OHL

Yes....finally someone who cares about the best league ever.

Many thanks for your work on OHL and OHA history. Keep up the good work. Don't put those typing fingers on ice :-p Flibirigit 07:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Your Welcome

Your welcome. I found your list my just surfing on to it. Originally I was looking for the proper license / copyright to post for a user created / uploaded photo. I wanted to see which one you used for the Ottawa Civic Centre picture you uploaded. I was interested because I uploaded pictures of the Halifax Metro Centre, Harbour Station and Charlottetown Civic Centre. After doing that I surfed onto your user page and found your list. --FrankCostanza 14:43, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

St./Saint Andrews

Hello -- happy new year. I have a bit of a question for you. I see that back in September you moved the St. Andrews, New Brunswick article to Saint Andrews, New Brunswick. I'm a little perplexed, because it looks to me like the article, and the Town's website, indicate that it is spelled "St. Andrews" not "Saint Andrews" (St. and Saint not necessarily being interchangeable). I'm assuming that I am missing something obvious here, so if you could point me in the direction of why the change was made, that would be great. Thanks. Skeezix1000 22:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

If it's good enough for Statscan, it's good enough for me. Thanks! Skeezix1000 02:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

DeBoer/Kilrea

Ooh the Senators are struggling while the Leafs are on a winning streak of how long?... Nah I'm just kidding, wouldn't want to start that up again. But whatever you do, do not add the list of players that Kilrea has coached into the NHL onto his page like I did on the Peter DeBoer page, or Misplaced Pages would have a huge meltdown. Likewise do not post his coaching statistics or the same thing would happen as I mentioned in the last statement. This is just a warning for the well-being of Misplaced Pages. Croat Canuck 06:06, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Oy, a threat? I'm not a very threatening person. Croat Canuck 06:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah that was a good game, I felt bad for the Russian goalie because this is a second whack at Canada and he failed again and his team didn't do much in front of him. As McGuire said, he was having a breakdown. Boy, Pogge looks good, so does Rask... gee I don't know what NHL team they belong to. My favorite player from this year was probably Chipchura, with Downie and Staal as runner-ups. Previous favourites from previous tournaments of mine include Mike Richards, Derek Roy and Jordin Tootoo, boy did he hit everything. Croat Canuck 06:40, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

If you do that your page will be full of Leaf logos and pictures of Kylie Minogue covered up in a parka! Have you by chance happened to dabble in this heated argument on both the Wayne Gretzky and Bobby Orr Talk pages? They are just crazy its RGTraynor against two other users and they are just going at it, I've been trying to keep it civil as sort of mediator but boy, there is a bit of anger being passed around. Croat Canuck 06:55, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

You surpise me sometimes Earl Andrew... I thought you would have said Laurie Boschman because, well, the Senators history don't date back that far. You should check out one of my new userboxes, it goes along with our agree to disagree agreement. Croat Canuck 07:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

DANG YOU EARL ANDREW! YOU BARELY BEAT ME ON TAKING THAT SIGNATURE OFF THE TUUKKA RASK ARTICLE!... oh sorry, no yelling... I think i Just woke someone up. Croat Canuck 07:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Well I just think it was a little rude to cut in front of me there while we were having a semi-polite conversation. Croat Canuck 07:38, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

What's really freaky is that they had another goalie and they didn't play him... You think Patrick Roy had it bad in Montreal? Geesh... Man, I am on fire with my userboxes today. Croat Canuck 08:01, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

No, Tugnutt was with the Nordiques when he stopped 70 of 73 shots in a 3-3 tie. Sam

LoPresti has the record I think with 80 saves in a game, and I think he won 3-2, this was back in the 40's... and that was all unsourced, straight from my brain. What a databank of hockey knowledge I have, hee hee hee. Croat Canuck 08:12, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Alright I dug out my NHL Official Guide $ Record Book, and it was 83 shots the Boston Bruins got on March 4, 1941 against the Chicago Blackhawks, and Boston won 3-2. But it didn't say who the goalie was so I dug out my NHL Players Ultimate A-Z Guide by Andrew Podnieks (you want the ISBN too? lol) and comfirmed it was Sam LoPresti. This LoPresti guy also enlisted in the US Navy during WWII, and spent 42 days on a lifeboat before being saved. Hmm... interesting. Also I did confirm the Tugnutt thing, and that happened in March 21, 1991 also against the Boston Bruins. In fact Boston has 3 of the top 4 places for most shots in a game. Speaking of records, how the heck did you find the time to get so many edits? Probably from stealing edits from guys like me, eh? Croat Canuck 08:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I mean I think I'm cranking a devilish pace and then hiyo! Croat Canuck 08:26, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I think Jimbo Wales should pay for you University with all the contributions you've made... A Wiki-Scholarship! Croat Canuck 08:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I actually made some userboxes on that topic of bandwidth theft and Jimmy Wales chasing me with henchmen... ay do your toilets flush clockwise in Ottawa, mate? Something in the water that causes you guys to go Wiki-Crazy? Croat Canuck 08:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Why does everybody assume I'm from Kitchener? Geesh, a city boy I ain't. Check the userboxes, they'll tell you (and a lot more unfortunately), although I am more proud that I grew up in Wellesley than the place I am living in now. That SimonP's userpage is kind of bland for a guy who is almost at 100,000 freaking edits, thats just insane. Oh well at least he's Canadian. Croat Canuck 08:48, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but enough of a difference that if they were in the correct location, they could be in separate hemispheres. I'm signing off, keep on trucking! Croat Canuck 08:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Errors in 2006 Canadian Election Page

Hi,

I saw your comments about the 2006 election figures having huge errors, could we tag it appropriately so no one takes that information for true in the future? I'm not sure what to tag it with nor do I know anything about the figures. Thanks Sinblox 22:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== You are a vandal who has no respect for correct information. Your continual reverts of correct modifications are annoying and a disgrace to wikipedia. Like you, I am a Carleton student. I work for the government. I respect fact, and try to make wikipedia better. You are disrespectful, and are hell-bent on what you 'think' to be correct, offering no true basis for your reverts. This is highly disappointing to me. I suggest you keep a more open mind to what may be errors on your part. I respect everyone, and everyone's opinions. I do not respect those who continually shut out others, and trample on the truth... Intothedark

Election Template

Hey, I saw that you created the CanElec6 and that is all good. However, is it really necessary? I have done quite a few of them, and residence doesn't seem that important when you just want the straight facts. Anyway, my real concern is that when you switch the template to CanTemp6, could you fix the box so that the bottom three boxes are colspan='4'? The reason is because it really messes up the way the information is presented. Cheers --Omnieiunium 06:50, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Awesome. Just keep an eye for it. If I see it, I will fix it for you. Cheers --Omnieiunium 03:23, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Laws on Homosexuality Map

Hey, so it says you are the creator of Image:Laws on homosexuality.PNG in the copyright info box. It's a great map, but there's a small error in it. The maps shows South Africa as having same-sex marriage, which is not true. While there was a court ruling in South Africa requiring same-sex marriage to be legalized, it has yet to come in to force. If you weren't the one to make the change, no problem, but it would be great if someone could correct it. I would do it myself, but i don't have any image editing software. NoIdeaNick 01:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I'll do that. NoIdeaNick 02:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Any suggestion on what to do with User:Orthodoxe

After losing some recent arguements on the Montreal West, Quebec page, trying to rename everything to Montréal-Ouest, Quebec, he has gone and moved the Dieu et mon droit page to God and my right to make some kind of perverse point. Looking at his recent contributions it also looks like he renamed the Martin Luther King III page to Martin Luther King, son! This is starting to be vandalism. I'm not as familiar with process here as you. Do you have any suggestions? Nfitz 00:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

No source image

Image:Aljabir.JPG has no source; just saying it's from rulers.org isn't saying much, as they don't have anything there about who created the image. Anyway, I've put a different, free, image on Jaber Al-Ahmad Al-Jaber Al-Sabah; I don't know if we need a fair use photo, but if we have one it should have a good source: i.e. be an official portrait. Thanks.Pharos 09:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Canadian politicans

Please tag images of Canadian politicinas with {{Canada-politician-photo}}--nixie 23:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Proposed CanCon barnstar

I have proposed the creation of a new barnstar to recognize Canadian contributions of significance. I thought, given your support of CanCon at Misplaced Pages, that you might be interested in commenting.

--JTBurman 12:11, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Sheila Copps photo

Although I hate it when people tag my stuff for deletion I am kinda tempted to in this case but wanted to run it by you first. You uploaded the image Image:Coppss.jpg as your own creation and release it into public domain. I just notice, though, that it is the same image as the one on her parlaiment bio. When I saw you user name I though it was entirely possible that you are in fact Andy Schott the creator of this work. If that is the case then im sorry to bother you (although I suggest that you add a little more info to its description to avoid this kinda mistake in the future). If you aren't Andy Schott then I took a couple of photos of her when she delivered an alumni speech at the University of Western Ontario a while ago which might do for her page. Please respond to this on my talk page. thanks Dowew 06:59, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Warmuseum.jpg listed for deletion

Admrb♉ltz (T | C) 00:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Canada Election Graphic

Your map of the results of the 2006 Canadian election has a minor error that I've noted on its talk page - the NDP won three seats in Manitoba, not two. - Cuivienen 03:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Election Map

Good job with that Canadian Election Map! I redecorated the NDP templates, do you think it works out OK? Thanks --Colle 04:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Colour scheme

Template:Canadian politics/party colours/Green

Why do you like the light (ndp) green for the Green Party? The Green Party uses a dark green in their logo.

Is this going to be a big consensus building operation? Where should I discuss the greens greenynish?--Colle 05:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Can I just hold a Greenynish green-off at Green Party of Canada?

Okay, Green Talk is decked out in green for the greenoff. This sure is a lot of work, good thing I love colours. and have an IQ of 65. --Colle 05:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Bribe?

Earl Andrew Better, no? Maybe we can reach an "agreement" regarding the green party colour? (; --Colle 06:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Raymond Samuels

We have a situation developing on this page. Could you please look it over? CJCurrie 01:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

• An anonymous poster has been adding information that may (or may not) be accurate, and seems defamatory to the subject. S/he is using court documents as source material. Could you provide an assessment as to whether or not, in your opinion, these edits are appropriate?

Thanks, CJCurrie 02:00, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

• My problem with the information is that it seems like original research. There have been rumours about Samuels short-changing his web designer before, but I'm reluctant to leave it up without proof. CJCurrie 02:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

On another matter

You're probably the right person to ask about this ...

Have you seen any formal clarification as to whether incumbents defeated in this week's election should be listed as MPs until 2005, or 2006? The parl.gc.ca site suggests the former, counter-intuitive though that may seem. CJCurrie 02:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

But, for succession boxes, I'd suggest using 2006.

That was my initial inclination, but I changed my mind after reviewing the parl.gc.ca site. As a matter of precedent, incumbent MPs from 1979 who lost their seats in January 1980 are listed as MPs "to 1979".

The parliamentary site isn't always accurate, but I'm inclined to trust them on this one (barring information to the contrary).

In earlier times, it was acknowledged that there were no "Members of Parliament" between elections. I'm not certain there's ever been formal or legal clarification on the point for the modern political scene. CJCurrie 02:59, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Huh?

Hello! I am most curious (puzzled, actually): is there a specific reason why you resurrected this now obsolete template/redirect? I nixed it/nominated it for deletion precisely because it was inconsistent and redundant with the other provincial/territorial templates (e.g., {{ON}}). E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 06:27, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

TY. That's very odd, because I took explicit care to persue the 'What links here' for the template and change them over before nominating it for oblivion ... at least I believe I did. If you don't object, I'm going to change it over to {{BC}}, which no longer applies to Boston College (egoists!).

Do you know if there are any others? If there's nothing else, I'll tag it again for oblivion. This is the sort of thing that's analogous to an unpaid bill: I need to get rid of it for sanity. :) Merci! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 06:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

TY! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 06:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

OC Turnout

I got the 2nd highest claim from the citizen when I do a quick check at elections.ca of the 5 ridings with ottawa in their name, OC had the most votes cast with 66,950. I don't have time to do the math at this moment, do you know of a source with the turnout already calculated? thanks Ottawan 11:16, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hey Earl, an editor has been changing the order of the results of an election in riding article from the current standard (ordered by the number of votes the candidates received) to alphabetical order. I think we should develop a consensus. Given your past interest in these articles, your comments would be welcome at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada/Election results. Ground Zero | t 02:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia Canada

Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there!--DarkEvil 17:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

About page with Active number of troops

I read your comments about that page.

I am also very frustrated.

I have been working on the Military of Pakistan, Pakistan Army and History of Pakistan Army page and each time I have to change info on those pages to coincide with changes on this page.

I think this page should be retitled and remade with proper sub-heading.

Here is a sample of what I have created.

Tell me what you think.

Also, we need to create sub-pages where each country is sorted by the size of each individual service. Such as countries with the largest armies, etc.

Rank		Nation	Army	Navy	Air Force	Marines	Paramilitary Forces	Other	TOTAL	Armed Forces per thousand citizens
3		United States	500,203	375,521	358,612	176,202	National Guard #	40,151 (US Coast Guard)	1,427,000	4.79
7		Pakistan	620,000	27,000	65,000	0	288,000	0	1,000,000	6.23

Active troops list

The article needs a complete rewrite. I pretty sure that Indian Armed Forces is the second largest after PRC but the article lists India as the largest army. Merc2k's version seems good but the figures need to be backed by verfiable sources. --Deepak|वार्ता 18:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Participating NOC list

I saw that you contributed to the 2006 Winter Olympics page and was hoping you would be willing to weigh in with your opinion here.

Jonel and I agree one way, with another user feeling a different way. 2-1 does not a consensus make, and I would like to get this resolved one way or another before Friday.

Sue Anne 19:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

2006 Winter Olympics

Please stop taking out 9th and 10th place finishes. 10 is a better number than 8, and consistency really doesn't matter. If it's such a big deal, I edited the 2002 Olympics one so that it has Top 10. Besides, there are so many differences between the 2002, 2004 and 2006 pages that having top 10 rather than top 8 really shouldn't matter.

Since you care about consistency so much, why don't you spend a lot of time to make all 3 articles just like eachother? ~Scorpion0422

WikiProject Ice Hockey

As a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey, I urge you to check out the current discussion that is going on at This Place, it is regarding how the WikiProject can be improved. Croat Canuck 03:53, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Warwick Smith

Hello, could you add a source from the Olympics site (or other site about his feats) to keep things verifiable. Thanks a lot. Matt White 04:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Also for Scott Bard and anyone else you may have done in relation to the Olympics. One thing, though, wasn't the luger woman from the Virgin Islands the oldest? I'm not too sure, but that's what I heard... Matt White 05:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Great! Thanks a lot. Matt White 05:09, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Beckie Scott

Image:Beckiescott.jpg

This image is from where? -- user:zanimum

Copyright on Image:Censusdivisions.PNG

I have a question about the PD copyright claim on Image:Censusdivisions.PNG. Another user User:Cadillac has use dit as a basis to produce a range of maps. In trying to figure out the copyright status of his maps, I found that your map doesn't clearly state the PD status of the map. Where was the original government map found and why did you think it was a free image. --Martyman-(talk) 03:18, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

You can not use a copyrighted work as a basis for a derivative work. My understanding is that copyright does not work that way. If it was in the public domain and you do enough changes you can claim copyright on it, but if it was copyrighted to begin with you shouldn't use it. On the other hand using a government map to trace the outlines into a new file which you then use to create a new map would be fine, if that is what you mean. I am going to choose to believe that that is what you have done. ;). --Martyman-(talk) 07:54, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, thats great then. Keep up the good work. --Martyman-(talk) 08:27, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Saskatchewan election

Think you could make a map for the 1999 election?

• File:Ccflogo.PNG MS123

2006 Olympics addons

I don't want to have to report you, but I will if you don't read the tags on the main and talk pages of the said page. Please, I ask you to take part in the debate on Misplaced Pages:Olympic conventions so that you may voice your opinion. Thank you for paying attention to wikipedia law. --Jared 19:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, so I guess I'll let it go this time, but in the future, please just follow what the page says and don't go off doing what you want to do. That's how fights start. That's why we started a civil discussion. I don't want to catch you doing it again. --Jared / 22:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Your signature

Hi!

I've noticed you through your contributions on curling related articles. Thanks for all your work on that subject.

I see you're using the logo of the NDP in your signature (Image:Ndpsmall.jpg). That image isn't licensed for use on Misplaced Pages, so we're just claiming Fair use and that really only extends to uses in articles which directly relate to its subject. Your use of it in your signature doesn't really fit with that purpose. It's also not really related to the project to wear your political affiliation on your sleeve like that. Would you consider changing it? Thanks!

kmccoy (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

That is an excellent choice for a new signature icon! Do you mind if, at some point, I have an automated editing thingy (i.e., a bot of some sort) replace the NDP image with the stone image in the signatures that you've already placed?

Thanks again! kmccoy (talk) 04:46, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Reform

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Curling tables

I noticed that you have reverted my edit of the curling tables at 2006 Scott Tournament of Hearts, citing prior World Championship articles. However, existing Misplaced Pages conventions on data tables suggest that the edited table form which is used in Curling at the 2006 Winter Olympics is to be used. This form also reflects similar tables used in other sports. Please take this into consideration before making any further changes into the teams tables. kelvSYC 19:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

In regards to your response on my talk page: I am referring to table conventions in general. Your format lacks the semantic ease-of-use factor that we may need in the future - the usage of <br/> tags are not recommended, and tabular data are better suited in data tables. The colors are largely irrelevent and of no practical use. Furthermore, with my views, it looks ugly and takes up too much space (the entire table can be seen without scrolling with my table, while with yours I have to scroll). All in all, good web design guidelines state that layout tables are to be avoided. kelvSYC 20:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Again, the problem is that the tables are not compact, and does not optimally express semantic value. Just to make another example, which one is better, this table:

... or the one that is actually in Ottawa Senators? I'm partial to the latter.

Another problem is that it is not scalable. It is a considerable pain if we were to augment the above table with, say, the list of Sens forwards and defensemen. There is also the issue of the ability to linearize the table for those of us who access Misplaced Pages from a text device or through a hearing device. Using the above table, one would assume that Emery and not Hasek would be from the Czech Republic with a hearing device, for instance.

On the comment of the relevance of colors: colors are actually very distracting. In a lot of places we limit ourselves to only one or two colors: for example, 2005-06 NHL season has only a green to tell us which teams are in playoff position and which aren't. If you were to replace the row colors with the team colors, even if they were lightened, the result would still be unreadable and look cluttered.

kelvSYC 22:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I still vehemently disagree - the site you stated has horrible design in my books (nested tables... ugh). The issue comes down to content semantics and presentation semantics: the way you have it, you put presentation first when content is more important. The general view on good design is that one has to design with content in mind - presentation can be added later. By putting presentation first, you obfuscate the content. My design, however, is simple, elegant, and conformant to other data tables that are used throughout Misplaced Pages. kelvSYC 22:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

The problem in the content design is that it is not apparent on the column associations. Team Canada lies in the same column as Manitoba and Nova Scotia, implying that the rinks have something to do with each other (so Jennifer Jones and Colleen Jones are both Team Canada, right?), which they do not. The rinks are in the same convience only for logical cohesion, which in terms of design is undesirable. With my layout, there is no ambiguity. kelvSYC 23:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

If you think the above is the worst argument, fine. Keep those opinions at the door. We're here for civilized discussion.

However, an audio reader can (and sometimes do) make these kinds of assertions. An audio reader can easily make the mistake of saying that the Harvey rink is both Team Canada and Manitoba, the Jones rink Canada, Manitoba, and Nova Scotia, and the Belisle rink under Canada, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, and Quebec, just because all are in the same column. Maybe it is the case that anyone can read it out and see which rink is associated with which team, but for those of us who use the internet without the luxury of visuals, life is often quite difficult.

Then there is also those of us who surf without tables. The way I have it, you can still tell easily who's playing what role on which team. With yours, we have "Team Canada", "Alberta", "British Columbia", "St. Vital Curling Club, Winnipeg...", "Saville Centre Curling Club, Edmonton", etc. It takes quite a bit to see that the Jones rink represents Team Canada, the King rink represents Alberta, etc. It's even harder to see that Gagnier is the third for NWT/Y who throws skip stones, or that Hollands is the lead for Quebec. Now, imagine that you put six teams in one row instead of three. We could probably tell that Andrea Kelly was a skip, but could we easily tell which rink she belonged to? Not as easily compared to the way I have it.

kelvSYC 04:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Clara Hughes

The images in the Clara Hughes article are not under a license usable in Misplaced Pages. Please don't put them back in the article as they will be delted in a few days. Cheers, —Ruud 23:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Vancouver map

Hey, I was wondering if you could help. I want to use the new infobox in the Victoria, British Columbia article, but have no idea how to find and/or create the map template that would highlight the municipality. I noticed that you did it for Vancouver. Thanks! Fishhead64 05:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The map you created Image:Yukonwikimap.PNG is not correct...

The degrees of longitude should be decreasing as you go eastbound from 141°W at the Alaska-Yukon border, not increasing. — CJewell (talk to me) 17:47, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

List of Alberta provincial highways

I believe that the original page that you used to update this page on July 23/04 came from especially since the typo error on Highway 11A shows a closing parenthesis after Rocky Mountain House on both pages. However, I think the same results could have been generated anyway. Also the page has been modified many times since then and is obviously useful. Is it possible that they copied you? By the way, I have appreciated much of your entries since they have paralleled mine. Cadillac 15:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Couchiching Terriers of the OPJHL

Ok... I looked at a map... they are located on Rama Road on the edge of Lake Couchiching. Is there a town or village actually called Rama, Ontario? Because I set up that column specifically for the centre they play out of and have absolutely no clue... I played against them twice when I played for the Durham Huskies... but I have no clue where that arena was. DMighton 21:58, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Max Keeping

Hey, I started an article on Max Keeping. Would appreciate your comments/changes. Cheers -- Samir ∙ T C 06:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

• Appreciated! Would be great if you could have a peek at the Ardeth Wood article when you get a chance also. -- Samir ∙ T C 07:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

NB redistro maps

Earl, per our chat on MSN, here are the details...

Fredericton-Fort Nashwaak

1995 to 2006: Beginning at the point where the western banks or shores of the Nashwaak River meet the easterly prolongation of the northern boundary of the lot with NBGIC PID # 1546241, the said lot being on the northern side of Veteran's Drive; thence northwesterly along the said prolongation and the said northern boundary and continuing northwesterly along the rear baseline of the lots fronting on the northern right-of-way of Veteran's Drive and its prolongation to a point on the eastern boundary of the Indian Reserve No.30; thence northeasterly along the said eastern boundary to a point on the northern boundary of the city; thence easterly along the various courses of the said city boundaries, crossing the Saint John River, and continuing along the said city boundaries to a point on the eastern right-of-way of Regent Street; thence northerly along the said eastern right-of-way to a point on the northern right-of-way of Route 2; thence westerly along the said right-of-way to a point on the centre line of Regent Street; thence northerly along the said centre line to a point on the westerly prolongation of the rear baseline of the lots fronting on the northern right-of-way of Beaverbrook Street; thence easterly along the said prolongation and the said rear baseline, crossing University Avenue, and continuing easterly along the northern right-of-way of Beaverbrook Street to the intersection of Forest Hill Road and Waterloo Row; thence easterly along the southern right-of-way of Waterloo Row to the western right-of-way of the Princess Margaret Bridge; thence northeasterly along the said western right-of-way, crossing the Saint John River, to a point on the northern banks or shores of the said river; thence northwesterly along the said northern banks or shores to a point on the western banks or shores of the Nashwaak River; thence northeasterly along the said western banks or shores to the place of beginning.

2006 (new): Beginning at the point where the Saint John River meets the centre line of the Westmorland Street bridge; thence northeasterly along the said centre line to meet the centre line of Ring Road; thence northeasterly and continuing along the said centre line to the centre line of Brookside Drive; thence northeasterly along the said centre line to the NB Power transmission line; thence northwesterly along the said transmission line to the eastern boundary of the lot having PID #75394791; thence northerly along the said boundary and its prolongation to the northern boundary of The City of Fredericton; thence easterly and continuing along the said northern boundary and its prolongation to the western boundary of Sunbury County; thence northeasterly along the said boundary and continuing along its northern boundary to the eastern boundary of the parish of Maugerville; thence southwesterly along the said boundary to the northern boundary of the Burpee Wildlife Management Area; thence easterly along the said boundary and continuing along its eastern boundary to the southwestern corner of the lot having PID #60124245; thence southeasterly along the southwestern boundary of the said lot and its prolongation to Little River; thence southwesterly along the said river and continuing along Indian Lake and Portobello Stream to the western boundary of the parish of Sheffield; thence southwesterly along the said boundary to the Saint John River; thence northwesterly and continuing along the said river to the place of beginning, including a portion of The City of Fredericton, Saint Mary’s No. 24 Reserve, and Devon No. 30 Reserve.

-- Thanks Earl, will add the Saint John Harbour info in a bit. - Jord 01:17, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Saint John Harbour

1974 to 1995: please see this map, Harbour is district #45

1995 to 2006: Beginning at the point where the northern right-of-way of Route 100 meets the western banks or shores of Marsh Creek; thence southerly along the said western banks or shores, crossing Courtenay Bay Causeway and the Saint John Harbour, to a point where the western banks or shores of Saint John Harbour meet the southeasterly prolongation of the rear baseline of the lots fronting on the eastern right-of-way of City Line Road; thence northwesterly along the said prolongation and the said rear baseline and its prolongation to a point on the northern banks or shores of the Saint John River; thence westerly and northeasterly along the various courses of the said river and the eastern banks or shores of Marble Cove to a point on the southerly prolongation of the rear baseline of the lots fronting on the western right-of-way of Cedar Street; thence northerly along the said prolongation and the said rear baseline and its prolongation to a point on the rear baseline of the lots fronting on the northern right-of-way of Main Street; thence easterly along the said rear baseline to a point on the rear baseline of the lots fronting on the western right-of-way of Albert Street; thence northerly along the said rear baseline to a point on the westerly prolongation of the rear baseline of the lots fronting on the northern right-of-way of Metcalf Street; thence easterly along the said rear baseline to a point on the rear baseline of the lots fronting on the northeasterly right-of-way of Main Street; thence easterly along the said rear baseline to a point on the eastern right-of-way of Wall Street interchange; thence southerly along the said eastern right-of-way to a point on the southern right-of-way of Route 1; thence easterly along the said southern right-of-way to a point on the western banks or shores of Marsh Creek; thence southerly along the said western banks or shores to the place of beginning.

--- Thanks again Earl - Jord 01:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

1968 Liberal logo

Please see Talk:Liberal Party of Canada leadership convention, 1968 - I think that logo was not in use yet. Homey 22:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Page playoff system

Hey Earl, I've seen many of your edits (particularly since some of our interests overlap--Canada, politics (esp. NDP) and curling are just a few examples) and they've always been very good, especially those pretty maps. I noticed recently that there was no article on the page playoff system, so I wrote one to get it going. However, I don't know that much about curling history and I'm sure there are other things that you could add that would help improve it, possibly up to a DYK level. This would probably be great to do right now, considering the world championships that are going on. So if you want to have a look at it and/or can think of a good DYK line, feel free.

Also, I'm planning on being in Boston the first week of April, so I may wander up to Lowell for the Men's Worlds. I'll try to take some pictures, but if you had any suggestions (specific or general) of free curling (or other?) pictures Misplaced Pages might benefit from, I'll do my best. (And I'll try to start 2006 World Men's Curling Championship soon if I'm not too busy.) Cheers! Telso 01:47, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

re: playoff template

I created Template:PagePlayoffBracket. However, because I cut and pasted much of it from the other bracket templates, I still might make minor modifications later such as trimming some of excess vertical spacing a little more. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 18:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

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Nunavut MLA's

Thanks for catching the errors on those, especially the Joe Allen one. Yt would have taken forever to live that down if he had seen it. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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Blanking warnings and uploading unsourced images

Just so you know, removing warnings from your talk page is considered vandalism and can get you blocked. Continuing to upload images without proper source and licensing information after you've been warned not to can also get you blocked. I suggest you stop doing both. Angr (talk • contribs) 06:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

If you want to save space here, why not archive all the old talk, say up to the end of February? Angr (talk • contribs) 06:34, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Mario Silva

Um...Category:Mayors of Toronto? Huh? Either you have him confused with somebody else, or you're working from a source that has him confused with somebody else, but Silva's never been mayor of Toronto or any of the former suburban cities. Bearcat 18:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

If he'd been an interim mayor for an extended period of time, I would put him in the category. But he was only ever "acting mayor" in the sense of "Mel's sick this afternoon but will be back in the office tomorrow". Bearcat 04:40, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

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Ottawa District Hockey

Hey, I was wondering if you might be willing to look at the leagues I've done in the Ottawa District Hockey Association. I have a detailed history entered for the CJHL and a few of the teams that were willing to put their actual team history on their websites... but I am missing a lot of stats... and the history of teams I could obviously never know (I live on the other side of the province). I'm also looking for history for the EOJBHL and the EOJCHL... but there isn't a lot out there. DMighton 07:33, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I need help... Central_Junior_A_Hockey_League#2005-06_Bogart_Cup_Playoffs... I can't figure out how to adjust the chart. DMighton 08:04, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

If I write in 8 team playdown... it will adjust the chart... but it will not show the teams. DMighton 08:06, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Do you know if there is a round of 4? I am also going to do this with the SIJHL I think. DMighton 09:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello, this is user:JackO'Lantern. You blocked i.p. 216.221.81.98 last night - an anon vandal - but this address is part of a proxy server and I can't edit most of the time because it's my IP address as well. I ask you to unblock it. Thank you. 24.141.147.6 21:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for unblocking it. This used to happen a lot more in February and January - some of these IPs got blocked practically every day. JackO'Lantern 21:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Earl Andrew/54nl) 80X

I just updated the above to point to Havre St. Pierre, Quebec. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

OK. I'll move it in a few minutes. I found it yesterday at Havre St. Pierre and moved it to the same but with Quecebc. I see that "Havre-Saint-Pierre" has slightly more hits in Google than any other variation on the name. The only name I am sure about is the airport. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for catching. I've moved it and fixed all the redirects except for the ones on this page. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Red Tory

Hey, Earl, wondering if you as an administrator could help resolve a dispute on the page Red Tory. Merci, Habsfan|t 01:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't think it really needs to be protected (I'll leave that up to you), but just thought another voice to look at it wouldn't hurt...I think you can see my reversion on the edit history, and the current one. Me and User:HistoryBA have been reverting to my version, and User:TrulyTory has just been blindly reverting my changes. Thanks for your time.Habsfan|t 01:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps returning the page to Habsfannova's last version and then blocking it until TrulyTory can explain his objections might help. I've been trying to draw his views out, but with little success. In any case, it's his responsibility to explain his views, not mine to solicit them. HistoryBA 02:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

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Country subdivisions

need your help, kind of urgent, someone wants to split the cats and articles of "subdivisons of XY" to "Administatrive divisions of some countries" and "Political divisions of some other countries".

could you maybe vote on Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_April_4#Category:Subdivisions_by_country_to_Category:Political_divisions_by_country (take care, there are actually three votes)

IMO the thing should be taken with more care and discussed on the project page

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Subnational_entities/Naming#Umbrella_terms

first. It is really is mass rename, since it not only involves the cats and subcates but also lots of articles. As Lorenz pointed out the most important seems to be that we find clear definitions of what the terms mean. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 08:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)