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Ok first of all what the hell do you mean I can not sign right? because the other editors said I was signing right! and wow you did not need to be rude about it when you said DUH! you're just wasting your time writing all of those mean comments instead of doing something worth your time like give help to people! its not like when you first started wikipedia you did a few things wrong OK? get it through your head I am still trying to learn and read some of the wikipedia instruction articles. Please do not talk to me unless if you got something nice to say! and ok if I am in every editor's way than I will quit I found another site to work on that has editors that give me a lot of help but anyways bye! :/] (]) 01:40, 1 March 2012 (UTC) Ok first of all what the hell do you mean I can not sign right? because the other editors said I was signing right! and wow you did not need to be rude about it when you said DUH! you're just wasting your time writing all of those mean comments instead of doing something worth your time like give help to people! its not like when you first started wikipedia you did a few things wrong OK? get it through your head I am still trying to learn and read some of the wikipedia instruction articles. Please do not talk to me unless if you got something nice to say! and ok if I am in every editor's way than I will quit I found another site to work on that has editors that give me a lot of help but anyways bye! :/] (]) 01:40, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Also I do not get the part when you said I do not write in English because I do! If not what language am I writing in do you mean my grammar is wrong or what? Really I mite not be able to follow simple instructions (on accident) but you can't answer simple questions because your answer does not answer my question. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I AM DOING WRONG SO I CAN FIX THE PROBLEM! YOU NEVER TOLD ME WHAT I DID WRONG ON THE ARTICLE! is that so hard to answer and if you can not give me COMPLETE answers than do not talk to me. THAT RIGHT THERE IS JUST WASTING YOU TIME! well bye and read a article on how to be nice to people who are trying to learn and have learning disabilities.] (]) 01:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


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Jack Parr incident

I am not sure if this happened on the Jack Parr episode mentioned here, but I distinctly remember an episode, probably around 1964-65, where Mansfield was on Parr's show. As the camera panned in on her, a siggly line superimposed on the screen. Soon it was apparent this was a simple animation of a submarinte - the line being the waves on the surface. The sub raised a periscope, focused in on the cleavage, then the "commander" popped out of the hatch and gave a big wink. All the while Parr and the others on screen seemed quite unaware of what was going on. I suspect a prank by the boys in the control room, or perhaps it was from the local TV station. Wschart (talk) 18:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

What Does This Mean

"Although was unwilling to appear in the play, she received the Theatre World Award of 1956 for her performance in the Broadway production of George Axelrod's comedy Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?." If she was unwilling to appear in the play, how could she recieve an award for her performance?

I'm thinking maybe she was RELUCTANT but ultimately DID appear??? Or maybe she was unwilling to appear in a play and then won the award for ANOTHER play! (??) I haven't gotten to that part of the article, to be honest. But I agree that this article could use some revision.--Plavalagunanbanshee (talk) 18:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Cornish descent

I believe Jayne was of Cornish descent. http://www.cornwallgb.com/cornwall_england_mansfield.html http://www.jaynemansfield.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=144 I do know that Pen Argyl was a Cornish slate working settlement. Bodrugan (talk) 01:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

How are these reliable sources, and why does it matter? Ronald Reagan was of Irish descent, but it didn't seem to have much influence on his life. I think this is of limited relevance here. Rodhullandemu 01:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Yep. This information probably would be helpful in an article on "People of Cornish descent" or something, but not much useful here. Misplaced Pages isn't a compendium of every scrap of information available on earth. Aditya 12:32, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

She was very proud of her Cornish roots, there was a newspaper article about it a few years ago, but I can't seem to find it online. Her great-great-aunt returned to Cornwall for a visit in 1928, so the family kept up strong links with Cornwall. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CORNISH/2002-12/1038827115 Bodrugan (talk) 02:42, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Bodrugan seems to be a pseudo-nationalist with an obscurantist political agenda (a somewhat laughable one at that). The source he uses, simply claims that Jayne's paternal ancestors were from "England" (which Cornwall is part of in any case). Her surname Palmer (surname) is an ethnic English surname.
Mansfield's four grandparents were Elmer E Palmer (ethnically English), Alice J Jackson (ethnically English), Thomas H Palmer (ethnically English) and Beatrice M Jeffery (ethnically English). There only seems to be evidence of Jeffery having any connection to Cornwall, England, but Jeffery is an ethnic Anglo-Norman, not Cornish name. In addition to this Jayne had one great-grandparent Amanda Kuster who was ethnically Germany. Seems to be trolling or an attempt at cultural theft by this pseudo-nationalist to hide Mansfield's English background. - 90.221.144.212 (talk) 04:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
First, please stop your personal attacks ("Bodrugan seems to be a pseudo-nationalist with an obscurantist political agenda"). Secondly, if it is sourced that one of her ancestors is Cornish, then "Cornish descent" is acceptable, regardless of what you consider an "ethnic Anglo-Norman" name. Misplaced Pages is guided by reliable sources, not your personal interpretation of the ethnicity of a name. Cresix (talk) 04:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
There is no reliable source to claim that she is of ethnically Cornish descent. Bodrugan's profile identifies himself as a personal with an Anglophobic quasi-nationalist agenda. It is not "my opinion" that Jeffery is an Anglo-Norman surname it is verifiable fact. - 90.221.144.212 (talk) 04:52, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
The source is reliable. And yes, it is your interpretation about the ethnicity of a name. I'm sure you can find a source that "Cohen" is a Jewish name, but that doesn't make everyone with the name Cohen ethnically Jewish. Cresix (talk) 04:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
The source provided shows that her paternal great-grandfather Thomas Palmer was "Birth: ABT 1832 in England". The other source a personal site is not a reliable source because it presents absolutely no evidence/proof for the claim entered into the article by Bodrugan that her paternal ancestors immigrated from Cornwall, nor that she is ethnically Cornish.
As for the rest of your opinion, Cohen is an ethnically Jewish name. Mansfield's grandpatents-Palmer, Jackson and Jeffery-are ethnically English names deriving from the English language of English people in England. Ethnically Cornish surnames (what few there are) derive from an entire different language system, Brythonic; examples, Trevelyan, Trelawny, Nanckivell. - 05:31, 10 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.221.144.212 (talk)
Misplaced Pages does not determine someone's ethnic background based on their name, whether it's Cohen, Mansfield, or Smith. It is determined by reliable sourcing. Read WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NOR, and WP:NPOV. My last name is considered French, but none of my ancestors are from France. But with your distorted method for assigning "facts" about ancestry, if I had a Misplaced Pages article you would add the category "People of French ancestry"; to hell with the facts. Cresix (talk) 18:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Most Cornish surnames are not "Ethnically Cornish" as you put it, but this does not mean that they are not Cornish (Many Welsh, Scottish, Irish etc. have this as well). I did not claim anywhere in the article that Cornwall is not in England (my personal view is that it is not, but that is neither here nor there for this article). The fact still remains that the Cornish are not English, as the great historian A. L. Rowse explaines in his 1969 book "The Cornish in America". I'm not "Anglophobic", my father is English. To be honest it would seem that this anonymous user is the Troll.Bodrugan (talk) 23:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

A POV-pushing troll indeed. I had no interest in this Cornish issue until 90.221.144.212 made it quite obvious that he was largely a single-purpose account dedicated to edit-warring to remove material related to Cornish descent. I finally got him blocked for a couple of days. I urge anyone interested in the integrity of Misplaced Pages to watch his edits after his block expires. Cresix (talk) 00:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Note this user has also added this to her daughter's article, Mariska Hargitay once before and it was reverted. He's now readded it. Like someone said the first source is from a personal site and the other one really doesn't say anything about Cornwall. —Mike Allen 18:24, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

It was removed because it didn't have any sources. I re-entered it with the sources. The Mariska Hargitay article had categories ascribed to it that were not backed up within the text of the article. Bodrugan (talk) 07:25, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I've found a reference that the Palmers were Cornish:"Researching MATTHEWS HAY ROUNSEVELL KELLOW PALMER (Padstow/St.Teath/Tintagel) , MARSHALL (Tintagel/St. Teath/Lesnewth/St.Gennys), JEFFRAY/ JEFFERY (Penzance) WILLS (Camborne/ Padstow); And other Cornish emigrants,primarily slaters, to the Slate Belt of Northampton Co., Pennsylvania, USA" http://newsfeed.rootsweb.com/th/read/CORNISH-GEN/2008-10/1224529696 Most of the slaters who went to Pen Argil were Cornish, while the Welsh went to Bangor. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CORNISH/2008-02/1203741155 Bodrugan (talk) 07:41, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, a lot is happening here. User:Bodrugan believes JM is of cornish descent, which she could be or could not be. Raymond Strait, Martha Saxton or May Mann - the three more famous biographers of JM doesn't mention anything that may indicate that. Does any biographer do? If yes, please, cite that. User:Cresix believes rootsweb or Cornwall, Great Britain, A Celtic Nation are reliable sources, unless they are removed from the article. In reality, rootsweb doesn't even say she's Cornish, and the Celtic Nation page looks pretty dubious, without a publisher or anything cited. User:Nightscream believes she is of Cornish descent, and has no German ancestry, and keeps removing the information that she is of German descent without any comment of anything. Unfortunately, though, a number of her biographies mention that ancestry, and that information is so far challenged only by the lobby to make her Cornish.
My strong recommendations are - please, include information that are verifiable, and include a reliable source when you put a controversial information in (reliable according to Misplaced Pages policies, not personal preference). Also, please, state your reason if you want to remove an accepted information, better if you state reason first and keep it there for some time before your concern is addressed. And, please, discuss. Don't revert and post, and boil it down to an edit war. Aditya 07:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Dear Bodrugan, the newly furnished links lead to two e-mails that doesn't mention JM at all. What are they supposed to mean? Are you sure these doesn't count as synthesis, like adding 1 and 1 to make 3? Aditya 07:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

It quite clearly states that the Palmer's of Pen Argyl were from Cornwall. Her Jeffery ancestors were Cornish, that is reflected in the source used in the article. Bodrugan (talk) 08:16, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

And that's called WP:SYNTHESIS. —Mike Allen 08:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Aditya Kabir's recent edit summary, "Cresix and Nightscream, please, discuss on the discussion page, no need to form a tagteam", and the comment above, "User:Nightscream believes she is of Cornish descent, and has no German ancestry," I do not have any interest in forming a "tag team", nor any belief in her having Cornish ancestry or German ancestry, or any type of ancestry. I merely did two things, and two things alone:

1. I removed the mention of her German ancestry because the source cited for that passage makes no mention of it, and I made this explicitly clear in my edit summary, in which I stated, "Failed verification. The cited source does not mention this.", in contrast to Aditya Kabir's assertion that I made this edit "without any comment of anything".

2. I added the proper citation info for the source that is in the article. This does not connote any endorsement on my part as to the reliability of that source, or any personal belief as to her being Cornish. That is a discussion I will leave to you folks here, in which I am not interested in participating. If you decide it does not meet WP:IRS, then you can remove it, without any argument from me. My only interest in it was identifying it properly so that it looks correct in the Ref section, at least for as long as it's here.

I only came to this article because I had done some work on Mariska Hargitay's article, and someone added to that article that Mariska is of German descent, without citing a source. I looked through this article to see if there was a source for that regarding her mother, figuring that I could just cut and paste it into her daughter's article, but I found none, so to be consistent, I removed that assertion from this article too. If "a number of her biographies mention that ancestry", then you should have no problem citing them. If you can produce that citation for both this article and her daughter's then I have no problem with it, since I don't have a personal opinion on either of their ancestries one way or the other. My interest in making sure that the WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:CS policies are properly upheld, which has nothing to do with being part of a "lobby". Nightscream (talk) 14:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem at all. One of the better known biographies cited now. Peace. Aditya 15:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

This is a reliable source: http://www.cornwallgb.com/cornwall_england_mansfield.html . Your calling it "dubious" doesn't mean that it is. Cresix (talk) 16:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

But what makes it a reliable source? How do we know where they get their information? There is no about us page on that website. —Mike Allen 16:12, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
A very shabby website that doesn't even name its publisher is highly dubious. "Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published" (WP:IRS). How is it more reliable than a widely quoted biography of JM? You seem to have replaced the book-cite and the information supported by the book-cite with this dubious piece of information supported by this website. Whatever quality of reference you or I may have, I believe Misplaced Pages comes before both of us, as long we are here. Anyways, I believe I should wait for a reply first. Aditya 16:22, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Well, a lot more has happened already. User:Cresix has claimed and asked that http://www.cornwallgb.com/cornwall_england_mansfield.html is a reliable source. Provide unequivocal evidence to the contrary instead of reverting. He also asked to Cite the policy that specifically states that the source cited is unreliable. Not your opinion; the policy. So I'm quoting some policy here.
  • WP:SOURCES says: "The word "source" in Misplaced Pages has three meanings: the piece of work itself (a document, article, paper, or book), the creator of the work (for example, the writer), and the publisher of the work (for example, The New York Times). All three can affect reliability." The website doesn't have a writer of a publisher or even a decent paragraph. The policy also says: "Material from reliable non-academic sources may also be used, particularly if it appears in respected mainstream publications." And, the website doesn't seem to exist in respected mainstream publications.
  • WP:NOTRELIABLE says: "Questionable sources are those with a poor reputation for checking the facts, or with no editorial oversight. Such sources include websites and publications expressing views that are widely acknowledged as extremist, or promotional, or which rely heavily on rumor and personal opinion." Even a quick look at the website shows that its singular purpose is to promote a Cornish agenda, almost none of its views widely acknowledged, and there is no evidence of any reputation, on the site or off it.
Please, respond, before this heads towards a wheel war. Waiting for a response. Aditya 17:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
First and foremost, let me insist again that you tone down your hyperbole. There is no indication of a wheel war, and making useless comments about is irrelevant and inflammatory. There is no time limit here, even if you think you can impose one. Editors here are unpaid contributers, just like you. We respond when we can. Now, as to the reliability of the sourced, your comment "the website doesn't seem to exist in respected mainstream publications" is a matter of interpretation, your interpretation. This is as mainstream as the majority of sources cited on Misplaced Pages. No, it's not a peer reviewed academic journal, but this isn't exactly an academic topic either; it's a bio. "Even a quick look at the website shows that its singular purpose is to promote a Cornish agenda, almost none of its views widely acknowledged, and there is no evidence of any reputation, on the site or off it.": Again, this is largely your opinions. Single purpose? Lots of good websites focus on a specific topic. I'm posting a request regarding this source at RS noticeboard later today (I'm not sure when, so please don't order me to do it immediately). Feel free to comment after I post it. Cresix (talk) 17:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone has already posted it there; very good. Now, Aditya Kabir, based on your history of hyperbole about tagteaming and wheel warring, as well as your insistence that editors "respond", I implore you (if necessary, I demand) to wait a reasonable period of time for others to comment before changing the article. A few hours is not a reasonable period of time. I'm fine with whatever the conclusion there might be. As I've stated, I really have very little interest in this Cornish issue. I simply wanted others to have a chance to express opinions without one or two editors running roughshod over the consensus process. Cresix (talk) 17:22, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
I am happy that you agreed to accept a consensus. Aditya 17:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Just to clarify, I never didn't agree to accept a consensus, nor did I impy that. In fact, I expressed that I had only a peripheral interest in this issue before you even jumped into this discussion. Cresix (talk) 18:35, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Is the source in discussion reliable? It has replaced a widely quoted book source (see history) and the information supported by that source. Aditya 18:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Aditya Kabir, as with any editor, you have every right to post an RfC. But in your usual manner, this is overkill. I think WP:RS/N is on its way to developing a consensus. This RfC is merely useless duplication. But so be it, if that's the way you want it. Cresix (talk) 18:35, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Cresix, please, don't get upset. It's good to assume good. It's not about behaviors here. Not yours, and not mine. And, please, stop making repeated personal attacks. I believe it can be expected from some one who already has demonstrated significant sensitivity about personal attacks. Let's rather wait for the community to speak, if you don't mind. Aditya 18:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Not upset, not assuming bad, and not making personal attacks. YOU are telling ME to not make personal attacks??? You might want to review your own edit history, including edit summaries, over the past 24 hours. I'm just stating my opinion that this is a pointless RfC that does nothing more than duplicate an issue already well under discussion as WP:RS/N. Surely you don't consider expressing an opinion as "tag teaming" or "wheel warring", or do you? But as I said, you have every right to post it anyway. Cresix (talk) 18:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Cresix, yes this is a biographical article. All the more reason why there should be credible and reliable sources to back up everything in the article. What if you had a biographical article here and anonymous editors were adding information that was questionable. I think you need to reevaluate on what sites you call "reliable". Why hasn't this been published in any journals? —Mike Allen 18:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. No disagreement from me. In fact, I think there's enough opinions to go ahead and declare a consensus that the source is not reliable. All I ever wanted to accomplish here is a consensus instead of two or three editors' opinions. It might save everyone some trouble to close this unnecessary RfC with the consensus of "not reliable." Cresix (talk) 19:10, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Dropping in from Reliable sources noticeboard. Cornwallgb.com is a self-published website and does not meet our guideline as a reliable source. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, User:Cresix. May I reinstate the book source and information supported by that source, and remove this source and information supported by this source now? Aditya 19:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Not only is cornwallgb.com a self published website but it also purports to represent "Cornwall University", an educational establishment that does not exist in reality (see University of Exeter). If the website's identity is an obvious fabrication then it is reasonable to suspect that any content on the website could also be similarly fabricated. As it is the only apparent location for a claim that Mansfield had a Cornish ancestry the suggestion itself must remain suspect.
As none of the recognised published biographies of Mansfield mention any direct or traceable Cornish link our article must not be edited to include any such claim until or when reliable and substantiated verification can be provided. Furthermore, no other wikipedia biographies should be altered to include Cornish ancestry on the basis of claims by the highly questionable Cornwallgb.com website. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 19:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, looking at the discussion here, here, here and here, it seems to be safe to assume that a consensus has been reached. And, the article has been reinstated third parties. That closes the discussion. I am removing the RfC. Cheers. Aditya 07:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Well I found one in the end, a travel writer who stopped off in Pen Argyl and was shown her grave by the local Cornish society. He then met relatives of hers who vouched for her Cornish ancestry on their side of the family. Bodrugan (talk) 15:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Whoa there Bodrugan. Reliable and verifiable sources means something published on the internet or in a book by reputable sources. "He said, they said, she said" is pure heresay and does not meet wikipedia's criteria of verifiability. Keep searching, I am sure will turn up something oneday - how about searching the Pen Argyl birth records online? I have no personal axe to grind here, I am of Cornish ancestry myself (Illogen parish - 5 generations ago) but wikipedia has strict guidelines on what can be added to a biography. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 15:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

It is published in a book by a reputable source, Alan M. Kent. The author, as he says in the book, met with members of her family. What exactly is wrong with that? Bodrugan (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

More sources

This looks like a good comprehensive and authentic source. Anna Nicole Smith as JM's legacy here. Will get back with more. Aditya 15:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

IMDB has more on her TV work. Plus the Project may be useful to align it to the likes of the featured article on Judy Garland and Bette Davis. Aditya 16:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Anton LaVey

It seems to be a false urban legend that she had a relationship with Anton LaVey of the Church of Satan. I propose the claim be removed from the personal life section. "LEGEND: Jayne Mansfield, Hollywood sex symbol and actress, was a card-carrying Satanist and had an affair with ASL.

REALITY: Publicity agent Tony Kent, an associate of Ed Webber, arranged the meeting between Mansfield and ASL as a publicity stunt. ASL was smitten with the actress. Mansfield, who made no secret of her many affairs, denied knowing ASL intimately, and no associate of hers has ever confirmed any supposed romance with ASL. In a 1967 interview she said, "He had fallen in love with me and wanted to join my life with his. It was a laugh." According to ASL's publicist Edward Webber, Mansfield would ridicule her Satanic suitor by calling from her Los Angeles home and seductively teasing him while her friends listened in on the conversation. ASL's public claims that he had an affair with Mansfield began only after Mansfield's death in an automobile accident, which he also claimed was the result of a curse he had placed on her lover Sam Brody.

SOURCES: Edward Webber (interview by Aquino 6/2/91); interview with Mansfield quoted in Jayne Mansfield by May Mann, Pocket Books, 1974. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.221.144.212 (talk) 05:55, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Spelling

Blond is an adjective; blonde is a noun. She had blond hair so she was a blonde. See first paragraph. NameThatWorks (talk) 19:27, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

INCORRECT REDIRECT

Why is this page re-directed from Sam Brody? Was there an article about Sam Brody that was deleted when the redirect was done?Cleshne (talk) 19:54, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Decapitation "Urban Legend"

The standard English interpretation of "avulsion of cranium" would in fact be decapitation. I suppose an argument could be made that the "head" includes structures other than the "cranium" but the report cited doesn't mention other structures except for the brain also being avulsed. Based on this it is apparent that this "Urban Legend" is in fact a fact. Psychicattorney (talk) 15:09, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Editing questions

Can I edit Jayne Mansfield's early life article and death article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs) 00:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

I edited the Jayne Mansfield wikipedia death article page I added a few information to certain sentences like On June 29 at approximately 2:25 a.m., on U.S.Highway 90 east of the Rigolets Bridge outside of (The New Orleans), the car crashed into the rear of a tractor-trailer that had slowed because of a truck spraying mosquito fogger.The automobile struck the rear of the trailer and went under it (sheering off the top of the car). Riding in the front seat, (the 3 adults including Mansfield) in the front seat were killed instantly. (Mansfield's 3 children in the rear seats survived with only) minor injuries.< (Photos from the death scene made the front newspaper pages everywhere). Rumors that Mansfield was decapitated (are highly untrue, although she did suffer massive head injuries). (The rumor started when the police and reporters found her blonde wig on the dashboard of the automobile and just took off with that believing it was Mansfield's head.) It is believed this was either a blonde wig Mansfield was wearing or was her actual hair and scalp. I put parentheses around the edits I changed and new edits I added to the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs) 00:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC) {Help= Why did my edits get deleted AGAIN? please tell me why thanks} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs) 00:49, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

There were several errors in your edit:
  • there is no Misplaced Pages article called The New Orleans, there is New Orleans.
  • if you want to refer to Miss Mansfield's injuries, the shearing/sheering was misspelled.
  • "and just took off with that believing it was Mansfield's head" - non-encyclopedic text.
  • "Photos from the death scene made the newspaper front pages everywhere." - what is your source for this statement?
  • stating that "Rumors that Mansfield was decapitated are highly untrue" is redundant. A statement should be verifiably true and that statement should then be referenced from reliable sources. --Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 01:30, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 23:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

WP:LEAD
✓ Done. Re-sequenced in chronological order. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Check, please. I have made some changes to the lede. Aditya 12:30, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Early life
✓ Done. Removed. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Removed. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Info added. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Can you cite the kitchen table.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:01, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Aditya 15:41, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Thoroughly reworked. I hope all the issues are addressed now, including some that I noticed. Aditya 08:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Mid-1950s
Done. Aditya 09:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Late 1950s
✓ Done. Corrected info. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
  • "Kiss Them for Me was a box office disappointment and would prove to be Mansfield's final starring role in a mainstream Hollywood studio film." and "The Sheriff of Fractured Jaw was a success; it was her last mainstream successful film." are very similar statements. Are they both correct?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:55, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Corrected info. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Stage work
Synergistic style now. Aditya 11:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't know what you mean.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:07, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Striking the comment does not help me understand your progress on this subject.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
✓. Throughout the text it now reads .", ,", and "?. Done in consultation with MOS:LQ. Aditya 04:49, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I think you have got this right now. If this goes to WP:FAC we will find out.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:12, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Along with the rest of the article. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Done, apart from linking Rock Hunter. The two links are so far apart that one hardly can remember it was linked earlier. Also, didn't understand the second point. Aditya 09:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Recordings
✓ Done. All available wikibios linked. Aditya 11:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Wikilinked. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Done. Still working on names of critics. Aditya 12:38, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Television
✓ Done. Aditya 11:53, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. All issues are addressable. Can I have a few days time to work on them? Aditya 05:51, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
  • I am still working through the article. I am not nearly done. You can see my comments are by section. You should be able to tell how far along I am. Feel free to start addressing concerns. Respond beneath each individual concern. I will strike as they are resolved once I have finished going through the article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Personal life
✓ Done. Ref added. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
First marriage
✓ Done. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Second marriage
✓ Done. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Re-sequenced in chronological order. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Legacy
✓ Done. Aditya 10:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Can you convert to millions of dollars ($X.X million in 2012 dollars) instead of to dollars.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:33, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Converted to millions of dollars. Aditya 10:21, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
A few more days for the text is all I require. Aditya 13:27, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Images
✓ Done. Aditya 11:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Removed and notified. Aditya 04:49, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Aditya 11:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Aditya 11:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. Aditya 11:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Getting to the images might take slightly more time, as these images were uploaded, discussed ad valideted by other editors. Alternatively, do you think I can take them to some forum and have them checked? Aditya 13:27, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Only the second one needs a review. Try Misplaced Pages:Non-free content review or Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:07, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done. But, are you sure you need that for published works of art? Aditya 10:18, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Not sure.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Great editorial work. You may want to try to move a few images over to the left for variety while keeping in mind the accessibility rules about not doing so directly under level three headers or higher. Other than that, I am quite satisfied. I am going to PASS this article now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

I added photo In The Fat Spy 1966.jpg photo to the Jayne Mansfield article --Ilovechoclate 01:13, 6 February 2012 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs) I changed the main photo to the Jayne Mansfield artice and some of the other ones on the one secntion of the article 1960's I added a photo to that and deleted a photo. --Ilovechoclate 01:39, 7 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

Mansfield's children

Jayne Mansfield had five children: Jayne Marie Mansfield, Miklos Hargitay Jr, Mariska Hargitay, Zoltan Hargitay and Antonio "Tony" Cimber (or Antonio Ottaviano/ Cimber). They should all be listed in the appropriate personal-life sections. Tony Cimber's name has been deleted from the article and then reverted back several times recently. Please leave the name in the article, Cimber is Mansfield's youngest child and this fact is verified from the following reliable sources:

If there are some over-riding reasons why this person's name should not be listed in his mother's article along with his siblings, please post them here. Shearonink (talk) 03:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

My bad. Thanks. Aditya 04:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

--Ilovechoclate 16:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC)== Image Questions! ==

I want to add and change some photos on the Jayne Mansfield aritcle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs) 22:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC) I change a image on the Jayne Mansfield article on the section 1960's the image is: B movie Too Hot to Handle 1960 Original Movie Poster --Ilovechoclate 00:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

I changed a image on the Jayne Mansfield article in the section (Legacy) the name of the image is: The daughter of Jayne Mansfield (Mariska Hargitay).jpg --Ilovechoclate 01:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

And like most of your recent edits, I removed it. Please read a little something about image licensing before adding another image to Misplaced Pages. The appropriate links are on the upload page. Dismas| 01:33, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I DID ADD A LICENSE TO THE IMAGE! When I uploaded it on the browse image page at the bottom there was a license icon and when you clicked it, it would show you a variety number of licenses to pick for that image you uploaded and I picked (CC) for it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs) 01:53, 8 February 2012‎

First, there's no need to YELL. Please don't. Second, the copy of the image here on Misplaced Pages (link) does not have a license at all. Third, the copy of the image that you also uploaded to Wikimedia Commons (link) does have a license but it says that you yourself took the photo. I very much doubt that you took the photo. If you did, you can officially send an email to Wikimedia to prove it. As always, the burden of proof is on you. Dismas| 02:00, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Well I am sorry from yelling I am not mad at you because you're a very nice user or anyone else it is just that I am trying to do everything right to add the iamges to wikipedia and no matter what I do they get deleted :/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs) 02:12, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

I added a new image to the Jayne Mansfield article in the section 1960's The Fat Spy VHS Movie Cover.jpg --Ilovechoclate 02:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs) I added a new image again to the Jayne Mansfield article Jayne Manfield In Primitive Love 1964.jpg I changed the photo of the article and I also added it as a thumb photo as well in the section 1960's. --Ilovechoclate 16:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC) I deleted my old image on the Jayne Mansfield and added the same photo but in different quality to the Jayne Mansfield article Blonde Movie Actress Jayne Mansfield In Primitive Love.jpeg --Ilovechoclate 19:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

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New images

I added and changed a image to the Jayne Mansfield article name of image I added: 1964, film, and Jayne Mansfield.jpg caption:in the B movie and low budget comedy film L'Amore Primitivo 1964 --Ilovechoclate 19:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

...and again, as you have done repeatedly and consistently, violated the copyright of the owner of the work, for which reason, as well as the inferior quality of the image, your change was again reverted. Fat&Happy (talk) 20:36, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

In what way did I! thought I did EVERYTHING RIGHT! that the other users were doing to their information of their images YOU SEE!:

{{Information 

|Description    =Cropped screenshot of Jayne Mansfield from the trailer for the film L'Amore Primitivo
|Source         = L'Amore Primitivo trailer
|Date           = 1964
|Author         = Trailer screeshot 
|Permission     = Licencing information:  {{PD-US-no notice]
|other_versions =

}}

and for the licence I put: (as in{{subst:personality rights}}). What in there could have I done wrong and I have not done this to my images repeatedly because this was my first time I added those 2 template at the top I just wrote to the information article in the permission section of my image! JUST LIKE THE OTHER USERS HAVE BEEN DOING! --Ilovechoclate 01:34, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

If you are walking down the street with your camera. or at some event, and you see a celebrity and snap a picture of them, then the picture is your work; you own the copyright to it and can grant others the right to use it (subject in some instances to the subject's privacy rights, but we're not discussing those right now). If you come up with an original tune, write some words for it and record yourself singing it, the recording is your work; you own the copyright to it and can grant others the right to use it. If you write a novel and get it printed, the book is your work; you own the copyright to it and can grant others the right to use it.
If you buy a book at the bookstore, or borrow it somewhere and personally, all by yourself, make photocopies of the entire book, that is not your work; the copyright still belongs to the book's author and you cannot grant others the right to use it, because that right is not yours to grant. If you rip a song from a CD and personally, all by yourself, make an MP3 file from it, that is not your work; the copyright still belongs to the song's author or the artist on the recording and you cannot grant others the right to use it, because that right is not yours to grant. Similarly, if you personally, all by yourself, use a camera or software to produce a still image from a screenshot of a movie, or copy or download a picture of a poster advertising a movie, that is not your work; the copyright still belongs to the producers of the movie and you cannot grant others the right to use it, because that right is not yours to grant. Fat&Happy (talk) 02:04, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to take any example that I can find of an image that you've uploaded that hasn't been deleted yet to try to explain this to you.
  • Image 1 - Tony Randall screenshot - Under licensing, you claim that you own the image. You don't! It is a screenshot of a film. The producers of the film own the rights to any screenshot from one of their films. So, that image is either in the public domain (if the film is old enough) or it can only be used under a fair use rationale (see WP:FAIRUSE for the details on that). I can almost guarantee that it is NOT licensed under Creative Commons. And it has a big red box that says that its source information isn't supplied.
  • Image 2 - Fat Spy (box cover?) - You haven't supplied any information at all! No source. No license. Nothing.
  • Image 3 - The Hollywood Walk of Fame star - Again, no info at all. Did you take this photo? Or did you get it off the Internet somewhere? If you got it off the Internet somewhere, then the person who took the photo owns it and you can't use it unless you get their permission.
  • Image 4 - Fair use image of Mansfield - There is no fair use rationale for why we should have this image. It's owned and we're claiming a fair use but haven't explained what fair use it is being used under. And due to the fact that we're not using it at all, it has to be deleted. We can't just keep unused fair use images around in case someone someday needs to use them. Again, see WP:FAIRUSE.
  • Image 5 - VHS box cover - See Image 4. Again, no fair use rationale.
  • Image 6 - Mariska Hargitay - Again, no license, no copyright info, nothing about who owns this photo or if it was released under a suitable license.
Does that help? Have you read any of the several policy pages that you've been referred to? Dismas| 02:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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Yep I have been reading the image articles on wikipedia and yeah I am not talking about those images I was still practicing on how to upload images at that time when I uploaded those images which was like what a week or 2 ago? what do you not understand by that? I am not trying to be mean or whatever but you did not answser my question or statement and someone deleted that one image I previously uploaded AGAIN WHAT I SAID YESTERDAY WHEN I DID EVERYTHING THE OTHER USERS WERE DOING TO THEIR INFORMATION ON THEIR IMAGES AND THIS TIME I DID IT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE IMAGES I PREVIOUSLY UPLOADED BECAUSE I DID WHAT THE OTHER USERS HAVE BEEN DOING TO THEIR IMAGES! and the name of the image was: 1964, film, and Jayne Mansfield.jpg I am talking about that one image I previously uploaded just yesterday! why Did that get deleted? my question or statement I should say was: In what way did I! thought I did EVERYTHING RIGHT! that the other users were doing to their information of their images YOU SEE!: AGAIN! may you please answer my question and statment please! thanks and thanks for the extra help! and sorry if I am causing you all trouble but LET ME SAY AGAIN! I am NEW to wikipedia and I am still trying to learn how everything works that is not so hard to understand is it? and if I knew the magic word on how to do things right on wikipedia I would try to help make wikipedia better and improve the site and articles. --Ilovechoclate 18:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

It is easy. Listen carefully. Do accordingly. Understood? Aditya 05:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Do not upload pictures that does not belong to you only. Is that difficult? Aditya 05:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
The simple way to avoid images being deleted is to just upload your own photos. Don't upload stuff that doesn't belong to you if you don't understand copyright policy. And per WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS, don't just state that you should be able to upload it because similar stuff is there. It doesn't work like that. Sorry but they were the facts, please listen to other editors. If you are new, please read up on the rules, then everyone is happy. --andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 13:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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thanks for the help your the best! But I do not get it how are other users uploading images that are not their own work? like this one: Jayne Mansfield.jpg

Description Cropped screenshot of Jayne Mansfield from the trailer for the film Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? Date 1957 Source Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? trailer Author Trailer screenshot Permission Reusing this file This film trailer was published with a copyright notice, and its copyright on the trailer was not renewed. This work is in the public domain because it was published in the United States between 1923 and 1963 and although there may or may not have been a copyright notice, the copyright was not renewed. Unless its author has been dead for the required period, it is copyrighted in the countries or areas that do not apply the rule of the shorter term for US works, such as Canada (50 pma), Mainland China (50 pma, not Hong Kong or Macao), Germany (70 pma), Mexico (100 pma), Switzerland (70 pma), and other countries with individual treaties. See this page for further explanation. This is was the same type of image I uploaded: film, and Jayne Mansfield.jpg but then it got deleted and I have a question if I uploaded a screenshot or something else that is not my own work (like the other users are doing) and if I put it under a fair use rationale license like user (Dismas said) would it be free for me and others users to put on articles? Ilovechoclate 22:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

But you are still NOT signing your signature in a way that wiki recognises ... you are typing it in by hand. Just finish your message with four tildes (~~~~) and wiki will insert your signature for you. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 15:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I DID look at the end of my message to the administrators do you see it? (Ilovechoclate 22:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)) --Ilovechoclate 22:29, 14 February 2012 (UTC

Some users upload copyrighted material if they can use it in a way which benefits the article (if they discuss the material), or if there's no uncopyrighted replacement - this is called fair use and is allowed on Misplaced Pages. However it's a process surrounded by lots of important rules so I suggest you get to grips with the website first before uploading such images. Thank you. Remember to input four tildes like this ~~~~ after every message you post on talk pages. Thanks --andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 22:49, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

{{help}} I really like your signature effect with the star and thanks! so you're saying if I ask to upload the image on this "Talk Page" of the article it will be free for me and ther users like your self to use? thanksIlovechoclate 00:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

No fair use image is free for re-use. You have to satisfy the 10 items at WP:NFCC to use a non free image on a page, and you must do that for every page in WP that the image is used. Should the image not be used in any article it will be automatically deleted.  Ronhjones  00:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for the help :) ! I read that article just like you said for me to do and I printed it out but I have a question may I add few images to the Jayne Mansfield article if you and the other administrators do not mind if its ok I wanted to add this one image: (Jayne Mansfield picture 1964.jpg) I read all of those 10 rules just like you told me on the WP:NFCC article after that I added a image and I mite add a few later on of course if it is alright with you and the other administrators approval but if I screwed up on one of those 10 rules on the WP:NFCC article may you please tell me which rule number I screwed up on and I will try to go back and fix that rule I messed up on thanks :) I tried my best to satisfy all 10 rules but if you happen to look at the Jayne Mansfield picture 1964.jpg and if you see any thing wrong with that image like one of those rules on the WP:NFCC aticle may you please tell me which rule it was and I will try my best to make that rule satisfied like you said thanks and thanks for your help <3 --Ilovechoclate 02:32, 18 February 2012 (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Ilovechoclate — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

Yes, when an image is deleted for any reason, the admin should post the reason on your talk page, and if they haven't (which is rare), the time of deletion and the reason why will show up on your watchlist (as long as you're watching the image, usually automatically). Thanks for your comment about my signature! I like it too ;) --andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 17:45, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Jayne Mansfield's 4th child Mariska Hargitay.

I added some new information to the Jayne Mansfield article in the section "Legacy" the information was: Her fame lives on through her best movies, teleivision show appearences, and in the carrer of her 4th child out of 5 Mariska Hargitay best known for her popular role as Olivia Benson on the popular NBC NYC crime show: Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and I added a new image as well (my own work): Mariska Hargitay in 2011.jpg so the users and readers of this article will get a good understanding of what I am talking about and if any administrators or users want to write me back for any problems please do :) Ilovechoclate 03:08, 18 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

I added another image to the Jayne Mansfield article (my own work) in the section "Legacy" the name of it is: Jayne Mansfield's Hollywood Walk Of Fame Star.jpg Ilovechoclate 03:48, 18 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

may I at least add some information to the Jayne Mansfield article not add images just information to the article if it is right just certain sections in the article? thanks I just want to make the articles have more detail and may you please write me back thanks again :) Ilovechoclate 18:36, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

If you have a photo of Mansfield's star, I see no reason not to include it. A lot of articles have images of those stars. It's just that you can't merely upload images from your computer; it's actually kind of complicated. As for her daughter, I wouldn't bother. By my count, Mariska Hargitay is mentioned in three different places in the article, with one mentioning her role on SVU. CityOfSilver 23:51, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you both ok I added the one of Jayne Mansfield's star since the first one I uploaded I think got deleted I added it to the section legacy I named it The Jayne Mansfield Hollywood Walk Of Fame Star.jpg thank you and if there is anything wrong with the image please let me know :)Ilovechoclate (talk) 14:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome to add information but your grammar is so poor most of the time that it would probably be best to put the information here on the talk page, with appropriate sources, and someone else can put it in the article. Dismas| 00:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I should also add that, as you've been told, the easiest way to get a star photo uploaded here is to take a picture of the star yourself. CityOfSilver 00:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, you both are nice yeah I understand when I first started and when I tried to edit the Jayne Mansfield article and I accidently put (The New Orleans) no such thing and yeah I know why it got removed too because there is no page called The New Orleans just New Orleans and thanks I will try to add some information to the article this time like you said with GOOD grammar and see how it turns out thanks you both for the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

That post isn't really all that encouraging. There isn't a single period in the whole thing. Dismas| 00:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

You mean just now when I as talking to you and the other administrator or the old information I added to the Jayne Mansfield article and may you please tell me what happend to my signature I typed in 4 tildes at the end of that message the key is beside the "1" key and you have to hit shift to add 4 tildes and than I did that and than I saved the message to the "Talk Page"?Ilovechoclate 01:13, 24 February 2012 (UTC) 

Is there anything wrong with the information I just added now to the Jayne Mansfield article? (In the early hours of June 29, 1967 Mansfield died in an automobile accident at age 34 with their driver Ronnie Harrison and boyfriend Sam Brody on U.S. Route 90 30 miles outside of New Orleans heading west.) May you please tell what the mistake is and I will try to go back and fix that mistake I made just saying if I did thanks for the help againIlovechoclate 01:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Ilovechoclate 01:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC) Ilovechoclate 01:28, 24 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate (talk • contribs)

First let me say that I'm surprised the lede didn't contain anything about her death. It doesn't need an in-depth explanation, but one sentence is fine by me. The phrase you added is a little too much information; I would stop right after "age 34." The year, 1967, needs to be followed by a comma.
As for your other concerns, I honestly don't know where to start because there are a lot of concerns and you keep changing your comments. It's better form to just add a new comment rather than change old ones.
I don't know anything about why four tildes didn't work as a signature. You can just copy this text ~~~~ and paste it whenever you want to sign something and it should work.
Dismas and I are not administrators. I can't speak for him, but I personally am just a random editor who wandered here from recent changes.
And as for grammar, Dismas's concern appears to primarily be an issue with run-on sentences. Your post that started "Thank you" was about three or four different things but it was only one sentence joined with several uses of "and." CityOfSilver 01:37, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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Why did my information get deleted? Ilovechoclate (talk) 19:49, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Uh hello?

Please, you are just wasting a lot of time of a lot many editors. You can't follow simple instructions and you can't write English. A lot many editors have tried to help you. But, you can't be helped. Please, come back to Misplaced Pages when you are ready. Aditya 12:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok first of all what the hell do you mean I can not sign right? because the other editors said I was signing right! and wow you did not need to be rude about it when you said DUH! you're just wasting your time writing all of those mean comments instead of doing something worth your time like give help to people! its not like when you first started wikipedia you did a few things wrong OK? get it through your head I am still trying to learn and read some of the wikipedia instruction articles. Please do not talk to me unless if you got something nice to say! and ok if I am in every editor's way than I will quit I found another site to work on that has editors that give me a lot of help but anyways bye! :/Ilovechoclate (talk) 01:40, 1 March 2012 (UTC) Also I do not get the part when you said I do not write in English because I do! If not what language am I writing in do you mean my grammar is wrong or what? Really I mite not be able to follow simple instructions (on accident) but you can't answer simple questions because your answer does not answer my question. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I AM DOING WRONG SO I CAN FIX THE PROBLEM! YOU NEVER TOLD ME WHAT I DID WRONG ON THE ARTICLE! is that so hard to answer and if you can not give me COMPLETE answers than do not talk to me. THAT RIGHT THERE IS JUST WASTING YOU TIME! well bye and read a article on how to be nice to people who are trying to learn and have learning disabilities.Ilovechoclate (talk) 01:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Poster vs. Movie Scene

What makes the movie poster (which is free) an unacceptable replacement for the movie scene (which may not be free)? Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:47, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Because of concerns about free-ness of the poster. I have posted the concern at Commons. The current FU image has ample critical commentary and rationale. But the poster, if not proven free, has none of that. Otherwise it's perfectly alright to replace an FU image with free image. Aditya 03:37, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I guess the agreement has been reached, and appropriate action taken. Cheers. Aditya 05:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
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