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	:::http://occupyucdavis.org/ No sources? Entire website... Northamerica1000, i think that you should propose requested move, with good explanation, and source listing. Same on you, Viriditas. :) --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 13:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)		:::http://occupyucdavis.org/ No sources? Entire website... Northamerica1000, i think that you should propose requested move, with good explanation, and source listing. Same on you, Viriditas. :) --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 13:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
	*'''Per RfC'''; may I remind all editors about ] please direct comments about the discussion at hand and not about other editors (see ]). Although the subject "Occupy UC Davis" has a website that doesn't make them notable per ], and given that this article is primarily about an event that is notable per ] but who's notability per ] is questionable I do not at this time support a name change to "Occupy UC Davis". Additionally this article should be checked for neutrality as this events deal with living persons and maybe subject to the ] guidelines. --] (]) 23:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)		*'''Per RfC'''; may I remind all editors about ] please direct comments about the discussion at hand and not about other editors (see ]). Although the subject "Occupy UC Davis" has a website that doesn't make them notable per ], and given that this article is primarily about an event that is notable per ] but who's notability per ] is questionable I do not at this time support a name change to "Occupy UC Davis". Additionally this article should be checked for neutrality as this events deal with living persons and maybe subject to the ] guidelines. --] (]) 23:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
			:I am in agreement with the above thoughts from RCLC. Most will come to Misplaced Pages in search of information about the pepper spray event, and that's what most of the article is about. The provided context with regards to the larger event is sufficient, IMP.
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Conclusions from the initial reports are expected to start appearing by February 2012. Viriditas (talk) 02:35, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

So are they back?

The article states that "demonstrators plan to return on January 9, 2012". Have they?--Salix (talk): 08:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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A user has recently changed the title of this article from "Occupy UC Davis" to UC Davis pepper-spray incident. I changed the title back to Occupy UC Davis once, but the person who changed the name changed it back, based upon a rationale that most of the sources are about the pepper-spray incident. However, while many of the sources are about this incident, not all of them are.

This is problematic, because the Occupy protests at UC Davis are characterized by more than just once incident that occurred. This title change also sets other sections of the article out of context, such as the "Background" and "Rallies and encampment" sections. Also, Occupy UC Davis has continued to engage in organized meetings, events and actions, which have nothing to do with the pepper-spray incident. Therefore, I place this message here in hopes of obtaining consensus regarding the article's title.

I propose that the article's title is renamed to "Occupy UC Davis". Northamerica1000 03:09, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- There are 65 sources supporting the content in this article. The majority of them are about the pepper spray incident. Please list the sources that are only about Occupy UC Davis. Viriditas (talk) 03:14, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Per RfC. Well, i really dont see problem here. Propose new requested move, gave arguments for both names, and community will decide. We should see what is most common name of this situation. So, i can say only, create requested move template. --WhiteWriter 12:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

So why doesn't he just create a new article about Occupy UC Davis? Well, he can't because there are virtually no sources on the subject. Instead he has to play coatrack and latch on to the notability of the pepper-spray incident to promote the notability of the group. 65 sources and virtually all of them are about the pepper-spray incident. What does that tell you? Viriditas (talk) 12:44, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, under that circumstances, req-move will do no harm... And all sides will be pleased. --WhiteWriter 13:01, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

http://occupyucdavis.org/ No sources? Entire website... Northamerica1000, i think that you should propose requested move, with good explanation, and source listing. Same on you, Viriditas. :) --WhiteWriter 13:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Per RfC; may I remind all editors about WP:CIVIL please direct comments about the discussion at hand and not about other editors (see WP:AVOIDYOU). Although the subject "Occupy UC Davis" has a website that doesn't make them notable per WP:ORG, and given that this article is primarily about an event that is notable per WP:GNG but who's notability per WP:EFFECT is questionable I do not at this time support a name change to "Occupy UC Davis". Additionally this article should be checked for neutrality as this events deal with living persons and maybe subject to the WP:BLP guidelines. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I am in agreement with the above thoughts from RCLC. Most will come to Misplaced Pages in search of information about the pepper spray event, and that's what most of the article is about. The provided context with regards to the larger event is sufficient, IMP.

MichaelProcton (talk) 21:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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