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Talk:James_G._Lindsay

Hi Shuki, I'll really appreciate your comments about my new suggestions. Nik Sage (talk) 11:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Chabad houses for deletion

The article List of Chabad houses is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Frivolous SPI

Is there any sanction that can be applied to editors who fish for checkusers with little substantial basis? It seems that there is no real evidence of anything except common editing yet it would seem that anyone is free to come an accuse as well as join the party. If anyone sees this, please add a remark for me on the SPI. I hope it is not tempting a followup accusation of meat, yet I think it is only fair for the accused to reply. I make a dumb mistake, and everyone is piling on to join in the Shuki bashing. Thanks. --Shuki (talk) 21:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I would like to welcome Bulldog123 and Betsythedevine into the ranks of the I-P battleground and thank them for waking me up from a month of WP slumber. I am also as perplexed that with many of the regular I-P editors currently topic banned or interaction banned, they have suddenly shown an sudden uncharacteristic interest in this area, as well as a strong interest especially with the pro-Israel editors. Very peculiar... At least Betsy contributes to the project, maybe one day I will understand if Bulldog does anything other than attack and bring antagonism where he goes. --Shuki (talk) 16:37, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages's 10th anniversary

Question about Beit Yatir / Teaneck relationship

Hi. I'm currently investing a brouhaha over an alleged twinning between the town of Teaneck, NJ and the moshav Bet Yatir. As far as I can tell, the only source for the twinning is your unsourced edit at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Beit_Yatir&diff=174698486&oldid=174697857

Could you please contact me at larry at jewishmediagroup dot com and let me know what your source was for this edit? Thank you!

Yudel (talk) 20:15, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

You could click on the left side 'E-mail this user' as I rarely check here these days, enjoying a blessed WP vacation. I don't recall where I took that from. It seemed plausible. Most people on WP after a few months know that if someone has a problem with any claim, they can stick a template on to request sources and then remove it after a few weeks if nothing shows up. How is that brouhaha going? --Shuki (talk) 21:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, I hope you are happy

. Bearian (talk) 00:58, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about this. Too bad no one bothered to email me. I would not use the word 'happy', rather 'mildly amused' that some irrational person blew this wildly out of proportion. I just replied to Yudel above what any newbie to WP would do in order to avert a crisis. But this Siegel character, may he see how he has erred and caused strife instead of peace, was apparently looking for confrontation demanding that township officials publicly renounce the connection instead of merely doing some investigative footwork to see if Teaneck was even twinned with any other municipality in the first place. I am not surprised why everyone on the city council ignored his requests. The article is actually written okay and reminds me of good old style of investigative journalism you rarely see these days.

• FWIW, I've never been to Teaneck or Beit Yatir and I cannot recall where I got that info. In my early WP days, I would copy information from other WP articles if it seemed plausible and uncontroversial. I definitely noticed that mentions of twin cities in other geo articles never had references, so I did not bother with that section there either.
• FWIW2, if this Siegel character is so interested in being anti-Zionist, than he should not be using or giving credibility to WP which is based on PHP, a programming language which has a strong root in Israel. --Shuki (talk) 22:20, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Nation with the Golan.jpg

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Happy Yom Yerusalyim to all.

Jerusalem Day (Template:Lang-he, Yom Yerushalayim) is an Israeli national holiday commemorating the reunification of Jerusalem and the establishment of Israeli control over the Old City in June 1967. The Chief Rabbinate of Israel declared Jerusalem Day a minor religious holiday to thank God for the 6-day victory and for answering the 2,000-year-old prayer of "Next Year in Jerusalem".

I need your help

I was recently engaged in a somewhat productive talk regarding Ariel (city) with other Wikipedians. I would highly appreciate your help (and the help of everyone who wishes to help us) in better editing the article there in general, while preventing one-sided editing in particular. Can you please visit the Ariel (city) article and help me? 62.219.119.17 (talk) 13:39, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

after my last post (is that the right term, post?) here above. I had the following massege left on my page :"Please do not engage in the sort of canvassing that you have on Shuki's talk page. Also, please note that this editor is currently topic banned and may not participate in such discussions. -asad (talk) 15:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)". i mention it here for two reasons: 1. i disagree with what ASAD is describing as 'canvassing', but clearly you have a much more important opinion in that regard (behing your page and all...) 2. they say that you are 'topic banned' and i wonder if that is true (and how come you were banned). thank you in advance for your much needed (more than ever) help.62.219.119.17 (talk) 15:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I hope Shuki will not mind me answering this. He is banned, see this sanctions log. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 16:54, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I want to thank the community for watching out for me. I don't think this is canvassing at all, but as everyone knows, (I'm touched) I cannot edit on certain articles for about another 150 days. I wonder if I'm allowed to discuss these issues on my talk page because that seems to be ex-territorial. Anyone have any insight on that? --Shuki (talk) 17:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I also wonder how can i send an e-mail to Shuki in particular and others in general? where can i find someone's e-mail adress?62.219.119.17 (talk) 17:33, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

If you create a username, then on the left side of most userpages there will be a link to "E-mail this user". Though, I can't guarantee that I'll answer. --Shuki (talk) 17:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Elazar Abuhatzeira

Why did you create the article in mainspace if you had no references? There's no contest for "creating the most useless stubs that will get deleted." I also must admit that I am very skeptical of notability of a religious scholar only being provable as soon as said scholar is dead, in spite of a 40-plus year career. In short, rather than fighting to keep it in mainspacce, why not create it in your userspace and then just move it when it meets policies? MSJapan (talk) 02:53, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

It's best not to comment on articles or people you do not know about, though I am not one, I understand the attitudes of deletionists. Anyway, as a veteran editor looking for information on which to base opinions, you definitely would have clicked on interwiki links to see if the other languages have any info. Even if you don't speak those languages, you can still get a picture of the legitimacy of a subject for an article since we AGF and assume that other wikis are also maintained to high standards. In any case, the reason why there was no article until now is because a) there was not much RS available except for a major scandal and b) I created the stub because this was a breaking story and there was nothing in English on the web about it and the context of being from a notable family dynasty. People trust WP for breaking news even if only a byte of info. This is not a stub that will get deleted and I assume a veteran editor like yourself would again AGF and check my record of edits before assuming I would create a 'useless stub'. --Shuki (talk) 04:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

You said exactly what I thought you would say, which was "People trust WP for breaking news even if only a byte of info." I'm sorry, but Misplaced Pages is not news. This is an encyclopedia, not a media outlet. MSJapan (talk) 04:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

You know that officially is the motto here, but in reality, WP is a form of encyclopedia, almanac, journal and repository of history. If WP was really notnews, there would not articles like 2011 Norway attacks for instance. --Shuki (talk) 08:33, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

AfD

Please see: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Armoured busKitfoxxe (talk) 05:48, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back

		The Original Barnstar
		Just saw your post on AE and thought to commend you on the perceptive, pointed and civil comments there. Baruch Shuvcha! --MichaelNetzer (talk) 04:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate your fine contributions. --Shuki (talk) 07:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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Toda. Good to see your still around. --Shuki (talk) 18:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Revava

You have violated the 1RR. Self-revert your edit or you may be reported. nableezy - 21:27, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Please explain. This 1RR must have happened when I was gone. I reverted you once is a violation of 1RR? --Shuki (talk) 21:28, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Your first edit was labeled a partial revert, your second a wholesale revert. So you have made 2 reverts, which is more than the allowed 1. Every article in the topic area is covered by a 1RR, see WP:ARBPIA#General 1RR restriction. nableezy - 21:30, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Ah, you are playing games with me. I understand now. I recall now how you do it, gimme a min. --Shuki (talk) 21:33, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

No, not a game. Not even a warning. Rather, a request that you self-revert your edit and a notice that if you refuse to do so I will report you for violating the 1RR. nableezy - 21:35, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok, not warning - coming from you is a threat. I self-reverted my first edit, but did not re-add alleged since the additional news articles clearly say the courts convicted Peace Now of publicizing a false report. Would the 1RR also include keeping false information in the article, or is it blanket 'don't revert twice'? Please be honest here, if you have issues, I'll revert that as well for now and get second opinion. --Shuki (talk) 21:40, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I see you chose to self-revert a different edit in order to keep a different revert. You should see here where a similar situation resulted in a lengthy ban (for me) on the basis that such an action was "gaming". nableezy - 21:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Shuki, you are free to remove anything you wish from your talk page as you did here, but the comment stands. In fact, looking at the thread I linked to above I see you participated in it, so you have no excuse for thinking that you can game the restriction in such a way. Please tell me if you are not going to self-revert your edit so that I can proceed with the AE report. nableezy - 21:45, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll keep this embarrassing comment of yours in. Thanks for reminding me about that AE. It's good to keep a record of that information and that they did stop you in your tracks with that frequent tactic for once and for all. I guess I have to read up on about a years worth of action here to understand the new boundaries. If it's keeping your behaviour intact, must be good progress. Too bad you have not learnt to AGF and give me more than a minute to edit before re-threatening me. --Shuki (talk) 21:48, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

And I appreciate your future drawing attention to many Israeli articles that I have to improve. --Shuki (talk) 21:50, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

NickCT (talk) 13:52, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Please

I would love to see you take me to A/E for a typo and my Dysgraphia. See you there. -asad (talk) 23:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

AE

-asad (talk) 16:42, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Article ban

In accordance with WP:ARBPIA#Discretionary sanctions, and as a result of this AE thread, you are indefinitely (note not infinitely) banned from editing the article Golan Heights. You may, of course, appeal this sanction at any time to AE or to the Arbitration Committee. Speaking only for myself, I would imagine that the sanction could be lifted if you remained out of trouble for the next few months and then appealed it. Regards, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:52, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	Thank you for the pictures you've taken and allowed others to use via Wikimedia Commons and contributing under CC and GFDL licensing. CocoaZen (talk) 15:00, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your appreciation. Thanks :-) --Shuki (talk) 17:53, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Shooting move

I wasn't completely clear on the talk page. I did the move because two people had already suggested it (without a title). However, I didn't see that there was already a general article with the plural until after the move. Superm401 - Talk 15:12, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

No one reads AE talk

You should ask on of the admins active in the area on their talk page or put formal AE request.--Shrike (talk) 20:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

New AE request

AE request     ←   ZScarpia   14:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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Pesach sameach

The symbolism of getting indef'ed from I/A articles on Pesach eve is too hard for me to not notice personally. I thank you all for being part of this message. --Shuki (talk) 09:51, 6 April 2012 (UTC)