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My bands wiki Name (band) was deleted...

Hello there,

Awhile back, my band had a wikipedia page on here that was pretty accurate. I don't know who made it or who requested it be deleted, but I was hoping it could be restored? I came to make some edits and then noticed it was no where to be found. If at all possible, It'd be greatly appreciated. The page was "Name (band)", signed to Lifeforce Records... If restored, I'd like to throw some other info on there and make some edits, if possible. I am a member of the band and can confirm that if you'd like. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon!

Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apalehorse2123 (talk • contribs) 08:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

It's restored, so you can (and should...) add sources to independent coverage of the band, else it may well be deleted again in the future. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 14:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Ill definitely add as many source links as possible. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apalehorse2123 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages search number removed

Sarek issued a complaint pm WP:AN that giving the number "8000" from a Misplaced Pages search makes me somehow incompetent to edit the encyclopedia (which is funny as my position is basically "pro-choice"). I removed the number derived from the Misplaced Pages search, and trust this makes me more competent. Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Statement_by_Collect Cheers. Collect (talk) 22:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I think his complaint had nothing to do with the number 8,000, but with your contention that the article pro-life feminism had little or no connection to the subject of abortion. MastCell  22:49, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

My contention is that most of the political BLPs have far more contentious material on the topic than this article has. And I would note that Roscelese made essentially the edit I thought proper - after the BLP/N discussion. What I do find very amusing is that I (pro-life) am accused of having shown a POV which was not as far as I can tell remotely present! Cheers. Collect (talk) 23:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Um, what did I miss while I was out enjoying a wonderful Japanese dinner? Jclemens (talk) 04:50, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

See WP:AN for Sarek's instant umbrage and assertion that I pushing a POV when I pointed out the my policy question is valid -- that is, can just anyone (involved or not) paste a 1RR notice on any page which mentions "abortion" or is that supposed to be left to an uninvolved admin and not an involved editor. Pretty simple - but when I pointed out the huge number of articles which refer to abortion and suggested that allowing everyone to post them as being 1RR was not exactly how I thought the process is best used <g>. In any case, Sarek officially doubts my ability to edit anything on Misplaced Pages as a result. As its relation to abortion is inherent in the title/subject of the article, this statement seems to me to show a POV-pushing mentality that is incompatible with building an encyclopedia. Should administrative action be taken? is his precise wording. As I showed no POV in the matter (fwiw I am basically "pro-choice"), I find his instant umbrage to be quite ill-timed, occurring during the ArbCom page discussion. I removed the number, which had seemed to set him off, but that did not seem to kill the deadhorse. And I first had sukiyaki cooked on an hibachi on our dining room table in 1956. Along with sake in a wooden box as made for the Emperor of Japan. I do not really consider the yakitori places as being in that league. Cheers. Collect (talk) 22:52, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah, well, I doubt my Japanese food was that good. However, I suggest that you and Sarek have a nice cup of WP:TEA over the matter. Regardless of involvement, working under 1RR is really not all that difficult in my experience. As an arb, I've tried to do 1RR myself everywhere, and while it's a bit slower, it really helps me slow the tempo and increase the level of the dialogue in contested areas. I'd suggest you try it as well on other articles not subject to any sanction, just to see how it works for you. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 16:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Speedy Deletion of Recon (band):

Hi, I'm Jordan. I'm sure you're not a wretched, vengeful, malicious elitist e-nerd--I'm sure most of the admins on Misplaced Pages aren't. In spite of acknowledging that, I can't but feel quite angry with the way this great resource is run. Hence, I have an honest question that I'd truly appreciate being answered if you'd take the time: Why is almost every new article, edit, redirect, etc. these days being nominated for speedy deletion/revert? You agreed that my addition of "Recon (band)" was "not significant" (or something like that). It's not personal--I let that go a long time ago when I used to actually respect the administrative side of Misplaced Pages much more before being let down time and time again. What I want to know is whether you actually took the time to read the short article, or if you just agreed with its deletion, as an admin, to move things along? Was a good, significant, or noteworthy article in my opinion? Absolutely not--the point is that there is a far greater likelihood of something being perfected if there is something to perfect in the first place--hence Misplaced Pages. (I'm quite positive that we all believe that, so I hope I don't have hop on the PsychInfo database to back up that comment in my reference section, here. Haha) So, the situation is this: I, and a bunch of other people writing sub-par-articles, know full-well it's neither our best effort nor to the standards of Misplaced Pages, but take the time to do so simply for the sake of free knowledge and having that knowledge part of the world's largest encyclopedia. I didn't write the article thinking it was finished, good, or even completely accurate--having known beforehand that this very article would likely be the most written about the band on any website or blog, I simply hoped that someone with primary resources would see the article and completely revamp it. If you're asking why people are writing such articles, it's because there are those incapable of writing articles (for various reasons), those almost capable but unmotivated or too hesitant, those barely capable but motivated and ambitious enough to challenge themselves to do so, those completely capable and motivated, and those completely capable but unmotivated (for whatever reasons). I knew full-well before beginning the article that I fell somewhere in between the second and third possibility, but wanted to do so simply so there'd be a starting place. So, the question, refined, is this: Why delete something so harmless if it had legitimate references but lacked thoroughness? Why not just put a tag on it saying it needs more references and thoroughness like many articles have? I just don't get it and I really want to hear an actual admins perspective. I hope your'e not angered, annoyed, or confused by any of this--I honestly just want to hear it from source.

Jfeen (talk) 21:20, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

If you'll look at this and pay particular attention to the dates, you should be able to see that I deleted a previous article on the band back in 2009, and that Seraphimblade was the administrator who deleted it a few days ago. I would suggest you discuss the deletion with him. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 22:08, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

User:Tothwolf/XiRCON

Hi Jclemens,

Perhaps at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tothwolf/XiRCON, could you explain why you undid a db-uq tag on the userfied deleted (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/XiRCON) article?

15:32, 5 April 2011‎ Jclemens (talk | contribs)‎ . . (3,333 bytes) (+3,324)‎ . . (Undid revision 376958885 by Tothwolf (talk) undoing u1)

16:13, 3 August 2010‎ Tothwolf (talk | contribs)‎ . . (9 bytes) (-3,324)‎ . . ({{db-u1}})

I would guess that it was a mistake? Shall we just delete it now? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't remember why, but apparently it was per his own request: diff. A request for userification supersedes a u1, obviously. I wouldn't recommend deleting it. Jclemens (talk) 00:04, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

FWIW, Tothwolf believed he was being harassed (e.g. see here), which led to some of his odd usages of u1 at various points. I have not heard from him in a while on the matter, but he appears to have last edited less than two weeks ago, so notifying him of the discussion is almost certainly appropriate. Jclemens (talk) 00:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:32, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

SmokeyJoe, thanks for letting me know about the MFD. I'm not watching my watchlist too closely right now due to my workload. I left a reply in the MFD and unfortunately the background on this is kinda ugly. This link and this may also help. SchmuckyTheCat knows I want nothing to do with him, yet that MFD seems to indicate that he plans to continue. I'm not really sure what more can be done. --Tothwolf (talk) 01:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

SchmuckyTheCat apparently also made this related MFD nomination for User:Tothwolf/List of Internet Relay Chat clients with both it and Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tothwolf/XiRCON being made in between a large number of China/Hong Kong related deletion nominations. This actually is beginning to look a lot like this all over again. --Tothwolf (talk) 02:52, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Dispute resolution survey

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Reliable Sources Noticeboard

I would appreciate your input over at the RS/N which at present requires balanced input . In a highly conflicted debate outside of Misplaced Pages, reflected as a highly conflicted debate on Misplaced Pages, I have found comments you have added previously to be balanced. Can you assist? Minphie (talk) 21:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Aboleth

Hello,

Since you participated in the deletion discussion for Medusa (Dungeons & Dragons), Lamia (Dungeons & Dragons), or Ankheg in 2011, I wanted to alert you that Aboleth is now up for AFD. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 00:19, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Nahar (alphabet)

You say 'clearly sourced'. That's one of my problems - is it sourced? The Book of Dagan is an ebook, The Lovecraft Lexicon despite being a source doesn't seem to mention this by name, one of the sources seems to be a character in Lovecraft's work.Терций Сибеллиус. Тайны червя is in fact De Vermis Mysteriis which is in a story by Robert Bloch and then used again by him, Price and Lovecraft so is clearly not a source in its own right. Bloch, Price and The Encyclopedia Cthulhiana just might be useful sources if we could verify them, which we can't easily without page numbers. Nazar doesn't seem to have realised that Тайны червя is in fact De Vermis Mysteriis. So the problem is, is it really sourced and do those sources establish notability enough to mention it anywhere? Can you help here? Because whatever happens if it isn't deleted the sources need to be cleaned up. Dougweller (talk) 10:20, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Doug, notability is about articles, never never never content. WP:NNC makes this absolutely clear, and I am surprised you did not already know this. Primary source mentions are enough to meet WP:V (it exists), but not enough to support real-world impact, detailed commentary, or any of the other aspects of notability that would support a standalone article on a topic. Jclemens (talk) 15:40, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought that was what I was asking. Of course notability is about articles and not content. What sources do you see, if any, that support notability? Dougweller (talk) 20:58, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Would you mind looking at my last few contributions?

I was reading through today's AfD log and saw that a few relists weren't completed properly. I believe I've repaired them, but didn't have so much experience editing the log manually. Would you double check me? BusterD (talk) 16:36, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Normally I would, but I'm leaving presently and won't be back on-wiki for several hours. Ask another frequent relister? Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 16:39, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks anyway! Enjoy the day! BusterD (talk) 16:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Scottywong was available. Thanks! BusterD (talk) 21:25, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Question about injunctions

Hi Jclemens. The R&I review has a section for proposed temporary injunctions, but I don't know how to go about requesting one. Could you please tell me how to request it?

I'd like to request an injunction that Mathsci be prohibited from interacting with me for the rest of the time that the review is open. Of course I am hoping the results of the review will address the issue in a long-term sense, but in the meantime his pursuit of me has only increased since I first made the request for amendment. I emailed you about a previous example of his publicly bringing up a piece of off-wiki information that isn't findable without extensive research. As of now, you can see here his battleground attitude is extending to my involvement in the paleontology articles I edit. I am having increasing difficulties remaining civil in the face of this baiting and I would really like some sort of remedy to keep this from continuing at least as long as the review is open. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)