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Proposed deletion of Lee Soo-Chul

The article Lee Soo-Chul has been proposed for deletion because under Misplaced Pages policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

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Owner

FC Seoul doesn't have Owner. The owner of something is the 'PERSON' to whom belongs. K-Leauge clubs like FC Seoul are not be owned by person. So, they don't have owner, just have Parent-company. z4617925 (talk) 15:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of K-League ‘Fan'tastic Player Award

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Removing Speedy at K-League ‘Fan'tastic Player Award

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non-free image use

Hi. It may have escaped your attention, but the image you have inserted here is tagged as non-free. That means, that a detailed fair-use rationale should be on the image description page, telling why the image is necessary on each page where it is displayed. At the moment, there is a fair-use rationale for the use on Anyang LG Cheetahs, but not for FC Seoul, and that was why I removed the image (and no, that is not vandalism, it is bringing a page in line with the relevant policies that are linked in my edit summary - please take care with calling things vandalism). May I ask you to write a fair-use rationale for that image? Thank you. --Dirk Beetstra 09:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

(copied from my talkpage):

No, I mean that you have to add a second rationale to the image description page for the other page where it is displayed. In principle you can copy the rationale that is there, paste it a second time on the same page, and then adapt both the name of the page in the new rationale (so it points to the correct page), and the reason why it should be displayed on the second one. In the end, it needs a rationale for every display of the image (and that can be one rationale if it is displayed on one page, or even a hundred separate rationales if it is displayed on 100 independent pages). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra 11:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Footwiks, I know you don't understand how to solve it, but that is not a reason to re-insert the image without actually solving the problem. The image needs a rationale, and I am sorry, but I don't know the rationale here. You need to

• Go to the image description page: File:Anyang LG Cheetahs logo.svg
• You need to edit that page, and state on that page on which page you are going to use it (FC Seoul) and why you think that that image is needed, before re-inserting. Please, do not insert that image without a rationale.

Alternatively, please ask on the talkpage of FC Seoul about the image, and give an explanation, and wait for another user to insert the image. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra 09:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011

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Proposed deletion of SSID (mascot)

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FC Seoul Away Jersey

Hi, can you find some pictures of the FC Seoul 2005 away jersey? Greetings Luxusfrosch (talk) 17:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Luxusfrosch (talk) 08:50, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please explain your changes. If you're changing club names because they have changed on Misplaced Pages, it would be useful to know that rather than cause misunderstanding and bad edits. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't care how accurate your changes are, your activities look suspicious when you don't comment. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:03, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

FC Seoul old jersey revise

Hi, I found two different versions of the 2002-2003 jersey. One with dark adidas stripes: http://postfiles16.naver.net/20110725_239/lzmania_13116048282542xe6a_JPEG/K-20110725-850105.jpg?type=w2
and one with white adidas stripes: http://stg.olpost.com/post/image/573x0/1982/1982217.jpg. When were they used? Luxusfrosch (talk) 12:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

King's Cup and Korea Cup

제가 관련 문서를 만든 것은 클럽대항전을 기준으로 만든 것입니다. 80~90년대의 킹스컵은 대한민국 클럽들이 참가하긴 했지만, 국가대표팀을 비롯하여 청소년팀, 올림픽대표팀이 참가하여 완전한 클럽대항전으로 보기엔 무리가 있어서 포함시키지 않았습니다. 그리고 코리아컵 역시 그러한 의미에서 포함시키지 않았습니다. 홍콩 구정컵의 경우 최근 들어 클럽대항전으로 치뤄지고 있어서 포함시키게 되었습니다. 구정컵 역시 이전의 대표팀과 경기했던 클럽팀을 제외시켰다는 점 양해바랍니다. Saint9016 (talk) 08:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

유럽의 경우 기권패와 기권승의 경우 3대0으로 표기합니다. 그럴 경우 전적에 포함시킵니다. 아시아의 경우 예전 기록들은 기록관리가 제대로 이루어지지 않은 측면도 있고, 경기가 치뤄지기 이전에 기권하는 경우가 많았기 때문에 기록에는 포함시키지 않았습니다. 최근의 알사드와 세파한의 몰수승 같은 경우는 전적에 포함되는 것이지요. 전적에 포함시키는 경우는 성남일화가 마카오팀과 1995-96시즌에 기권승이 있는데 3대0으로 기록되어 있는 건 포함시켰습니다. Saint9016 (talk) 16:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mutamba Kabongo

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Navigation templates

Hi there - you do not need to add both succession boxes AND navigation templates (as you have done at Park Chang-Sun) - the latter will suffice. Regards, GiantSnowman 11:19, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

선수정보 검색관련

K리그 홈페이지에서 기록실>>각종기록>>팀별개인기록 으로 들어가서 "대회년도", "대회명", "구단명"을 선택하면 선수들의 플레이 정보가 나옵니다. 선수들 이름을 클릭하면 선수개인기록을 볼 수 있습니다. 참고하실 점은 선수개인기록의 경기수, 득점, 도움이 K리그와 리그컵을 합친 숫자입니다. 따라서 리그와 리그컵을 별도로 표시하는 위키 영문판에서는 대회년도와 대회명을 하나하나 확인하셔야 할 것입니다. 그럼 좋은 하루 되세요. Saint9016 (talk) 02:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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New football player articles

You added alot of new football player articles over the past day. There is a problem with them in that you copied and pasted the same infobox for all of them. You have them being born on one of two dates, attending same universities, etc. Could you please correct the infobox and persondata fields. Bgwhite (talk) 06:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Lee Sung-Jae (born 1976) is a good example. You have him winning rookie player of the year in 1997 and 1999, but started playing in 1991. You had a message at the top saying his Korean family name was Yang. Bgwhite (talk) 07:40, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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Re:foreign players article

If you're suggesting I have some kind of ulterior motive for this then you're wrong. Both of the clubs I nominated already have lists for all players, why the need for a seperate article? In Seoul's case I simply renamed it so it could include Koreans and foreigners alike. If I'd known your club didn't have this article before I wouldn't have tagged it for deletion, so apologies for that. J Mo 101 (talk) 11:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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Busan I'Park

By all means nominate template:Busan I Park for deletion but before you do so you must fix the articles that use it. Similarly for 2012 Busan I Park season. I will let others decide whether it should be "IPark", "I Park" or "I'Park" but given that {{Busan IPark}} was consistent in using "I'Park" for the season articles, then the 2012 article should, at least for the time being, do the same. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:32, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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저기

저번에 욕했으면 사과정도는 해야 하지 않겠습니까?

그냥 싹 지우지 말고? 씨발이라고 욕해놓고 입싹 닦으면 그걸로 끝입니까?

알아보지도 않고 경솔하게 쪽지 날리고 사과한마디 없는 footwiks님이 과연

이런 오픈 백과사전에서 활동할 자격이 있는걸까 생각해 보게 되는군요.

claims require sources

re your edit and summary you will need to actually provide those sources that claim "powerhouse". but the "legend" terminology will never be acceptable WP:PEACOCK. -- The Red Pen of Doom 04:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

and links to commercial sites are not acceptable WP:ELNO -- The Red Pen of Doom 04:20, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

the claims etc in appear to be coming from folks affiliated directly with the team and are therefore not acceptable. "This is commonsense in Korea" is not acceptable for article content. When challenged, which you have been, you need to provide a reliable source. -- The Red Pen of Doom 16:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

re: Football League 100 Legends - as it stands it is probably NOT a valid article, but it is still a valid use of the word "legend" because it is about a specific article/award called "Football League 100 Legends" whereas your insistence on using the term in the FC Seoul is completely unsourced and completely irrel to the actual subject of the article, the team, AND just used to impart important status because you are tagging his name with a puffed up utterly meaningless show title.

and note that you are edit warring against multiple policies. -- The Red Pen of Doom 02:41, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

you should also read WP:VANDAL and not describe as vandalism acts which are not vandalism, but supported by policies and guidelines. you should also read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA and stop making comments such as

talk page etiquette

as a note, each comment on a talk page does not need to be in a new section. related comments should be in the same section, and indented using a ":".

also, you should sign your talkpage comments. -- The Red Pen of Doom 12:33, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

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Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:35, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

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RE: Seoul FC

Stating that Seoul is the capital most populous city in South Korea is irrelevant to the article.Curb Chain (talk) 01:54, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Right, FC Seoul. Sure MAYBE foreigners don't know details about Seoul, so they can go to the article to to know more about Seoul, but putting this information is just poor writing as it is irrelevant.Curb Chain (talk) 05:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to try to work with you on this article. In the above diff, feel free to reinsert the sentence if you have a source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=FC_Seoul&diff=prev&oldid=487951593

In the above diff, what articles claim that they are they are one the most football clubs?Curb Chain (talk) 05:29, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

edit war notice

I suggest that you revert yourself your edit warring against consensus and policy will lead you to being blocked. -- The Red Pen of Doom 04:45, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Treat other editors civilly

If you want to be able to continue editing, you will STOP calling other editor's idiots calling them ("abnormally obsessed " or otherwise attempting to belittle them "Do you lose your job or Do you broke up your girl friend? "

if your intention was to get me to leave the article alone, you have failed.

see WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL -- The Red Pen of Doom 05:41, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Adding to the above:

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.Curb Chain (talk) 05:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Apparently, you claim that powerhouse and legend are used by sources in http://100.naver.com/ but it looks like a homepage of a website so if this was true, where would it be on the page, as I highly doubt it is on THAT page, but in a page out of a list of search items searched from that page? Also, can you sign your posts as since you repeatedly do not, it seems like you are trying to evade scrutiny.Curb Chain (talk) 05:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

April 2012

This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Misplaced Pages, as you did at FC Seoul, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.