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Let's make this an opportunity to unhate!

The Fæ classy in crisis LGBT ally Barnstar!

Because we need to show our overwhelming support of what people hate on to create unhate whenever it shows up. I compel everyone that supports unhate to repost this on their user page or talk page and especially on any page that has been the location of LGBT harassment or ignorance, that way the haters will know the only consequence of their hate will be more gayness and education and community. LuciferWildCat (talk) 23:33, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm all for confronting haters back with a big dose of gayness and gay love. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 23:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

You must have missed that Russavia got one also. Right above the discussion on Polandballs :) --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I was in a talk today with Bishop Gene Robinson who has his own (severe) personal experiences of harassment and death threats over the last few years, for obvious reasons. His view was that the opposite of love is fear, not hate. It's quite a well thought out point with regard to homophobic attacks and I rather like to think our Wikimedia community could consider a positive aim of ending fear through knowledge, communication and awareness rather than reacting to hatred. --Fæ (talk) 23:05, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure some chap in the Bible originated that viewpoint. Something about perfect love casteth out fear...? Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I was using a secondary source in line with policy. --Fæ (talk) 23:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

LOL :)Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

It is my honour:

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		Fae, this is for your bravery at the ANI, the willingness to stand up to the abusive bullies who hold the majority there.—Djathinkimacowboy 04:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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		The Special Barnstar
		You deserve two commendations ... plus I just love the rainbow in this one. —Djathinkimacowboy 04:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. After a couple of days to think about it, I'm still disgusted at how a small number of people contributing to the ANI thread are arguing that telling anyone to fuck off with their queer agenda could be described as anything other than blatantly homophobic. I have raised the problem of unacceptable homophobia on Misplaced Pages with a couple of the WMF board members I had personal chats with at the Berlin Chapters Conference this weekend. --Fæ (talk) 23:41, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

List of highest-grossing Bollywood films

Do you still hold your opposition for the existence of the list? Regarding the reliability of BOI? Secret of success (talk) 12:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, unless BOI has changed their explanations of where their numbers come from (I have not checked, but I would doubt it). I'm going to avoid getting involved though, too much on my plate at the moment. If there are any new facts to bring to the table, then Moonriddengirl is absolutely the best person to ask for an opinion. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 23:27, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

No new facts, for that matter, but I went through the recent Afd's of that article and I find the arguments to 'keep' extremely canker, that heavy amount of coverage in newspapers can overrule the fact that it is a primary source. As per our guidelines, I believe it is highly recommended that we refrain from using primary sources, and the last thing we want is an article entirely based on that. Well, I understand why you tend to stay away from that page, and I'll try to do something. Thanks for your help. :-) Secret of success (talk) 12:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiLove message

Hello, Fæ! Seen that you've liked some of my previous works, I thought that I'd dedicate the cartoon below to you in honour of your Chairmanship of WMUK, as well as to British scientists elsewhere ;) GreyHood 07:09, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the dedication. I see your have honoured Wikimedia UK by highlighting Britain's wonderful capital, our love of freedom and enterprise, our financial leadership, our world-class innovative blue-skies science programmes and, of course, our love of political parody. Now, back to my tea and biscuitz. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 16:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Critics and MyWikiBiz

I was just reading an illuminating Signpost article at Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2012-04-16/Paid editing. I had not understood that the Greg Kohs whose article was such a problem for you was actually involved in MyWikiBiz and had come into conflict with Misplaced Pages over paid editing issues. What this makes me wonder is - are any of the other editors who have recently been piling on the critiques at WR or on Jimbo's page also part of this same business or industry? I've always seen issues like on Talk:Touré (the latest spot they've gathered) as straight inclusionism versus deletionism, overwrought moralism against completeness, but is it possible there are actual paying clients involved, and these actions are at least partly genuine PR actions? Wnt (talk) 16:12, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, I don't really want to become a bigger, more foolish or even more blatantly homosexual target that I already am for my stalkers. However, you might want to consider that the big PR folks are a different class of beast to some of the obvious paid editors you have mentioned, and it seriously does not help to confuse planned and deep manipulation of the encyclopaedia with minor conflict of interest issues such as expert Museum curators trying to improve articles. Wikimedia UK is building relationships with folks like the Chartered Institute of Public Relations and we hope to move their view of the world and best practice on by open discussion and training, so they can establish an ethical approach to asking for factual corrections rather than being tempted to manipulate from the shadows. Be assured it goes on, and doubtless in the future there will be newsworthy cases to flap about. In general, I would much, much rather see such exposures as the start of an open and grown-up dialogue rather than running around in circles screaming and shouting, enjoyable as some of us seem to find it. --Fæ (talk) 17:03, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the response ... just wish I understood it. ;) Wnt (talk) 22:30, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

No need...History2007 misunderstand and complains as usual

There's a misunderstanding. There was no "declaration" of war...merely a prediction that there would be warring going on....BY OTHERS. I never said "I will war on this". I said clearly, I will NOT violate any WP rules or policies. History2007 is a whiner and has personal bias against me, and is whining on this page...instead of talking to me directly to understand what I meant. Not cool. But then he's not cool. Instead of focusing on the substance of the dispute and the edit problem, he harps and nit-picks on this nonsense, only to get me in trouble. A real class act. I said clearly I won't violate 3RR, and will leave this whole thing to others after this weekend. The "war" I mentioned was a PREDICTION, because I know how others are gonna be acting. Not a "declaration". History2007, as usual, over-reacts, and whines, and wastes my time. Not cool. Hashem sfarim (talk) 21:20, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for dropping me this note. I'll mark this up as poor communication, I hope you appreciate how such a comment looks like a threat to others, please try to avoid winding others up in this way. You appear experienced enough to be aware of The three-revert rule, BOLD and Civility so I can't see much point in giving you warnings. If you are having difficulty understanding History2007's point of view, please consider one of the neat Dispute resolution processes such as Third opinion which can be helpful and avoid falling into unpleasently personal conflict.

As you have deleted the ANI notice from your talk page, and History2007 has removed your comments from their page, I will treat this note on my page as your suitable notice that there is a problem and that you have had friendly advice from an administrator. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 21:28, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Instead of focusing on the substance of the dispute and the edit problem, History2007, out of personal bias against me, harps and nit-picks on this nonsense, only to get me in trouble. A real class act. I said clearly I won't violate 3RR, and will leave this whole thing to others after this weekend. The "war" I mentioned was a PREDICTION, of what others will probably do, not a "declaration" by me. I keep to WP policy. Regards. Hashem sfarim (talk) 21:31, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I hope you caught

that I was using hyperbole when I used the word corrupt on Jimbo's page. I think the debate over pay and promotion is just a bit silly, and I was deliberately being a bit over the top just to make the point that maybe people should just relax. It is easy to see when something is truly unethical and instead we're having this debate over trifles. -- Avanu (talk) 02:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I did catch it and your comments elsewhere have helped; my reply was directed at Franamax though I did use your wording. It is unfortunate that some have lost perspective or any sense of humour on this issue (as doubtless I do sometimes), it's also rather unfortunate that I am not able to engage in the discussion without one of my long term stalkers turning up to have a go at muddying the water and trying to hurt me. Not unexpected I guess, though I still find myself unable to fathom why over such a long period, they would remain so attracted or otherwise obsessed, with someone as non-notable as me. Very creepy indeed.

By the way, you may find this closely related discussion of interest Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard#Requirement for declaring an interest after off-wiki canvassing. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 05:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Notice

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Fæ and MBisanz and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Requests for Arbitration;
• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide.

Thanks, MBisanz 00:19, 2 May 2012 (UTC)