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Genesis creation narrative

Since PiCo has bowed out for the time being, I was wondering if you (if you are knowledgeable in the subject) would be interested in collaborating with me on the rewrite/very extensive copyedit/expansion of the article once this latest brouhaha about the RfM has died down? I was intending to collaborate with PiCo, but I ask you as 1) You are one of the very few editors (maybe the only one) of different opinion that has maintained poise and civility throughout the proceedings and have not stooped to the level of illogic, etc., and, indeed, in all of the discussions involving you on the talk-page before, and 2) because you are of different opinion, so I do not fall in to WP:MPOV, WP:OWNERSHIP, or unconscious bias, as I believe that having two editors of opposing viewpoints see the article as it is being revised will greatly increase its quality and balance and eliminate the chance of any of the negatives that come with one author doing the revision and new composition (I express myself poorly, but I believe you shall understand what I mean in any case: essentially "two heads are better than one "). If you do not wish to take such an active role, I would ask if you would be willing to act as editor in the traditional sense of the term. Thank you for your time here, and your levelheadedness and civility in general. St John Chrysostom /_my bias 02:13, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi John. I appreciate the invite! :) I'd love to collaborate with you on this, but I've found recently that my time is fairly limited. I work at the computer, so I'm able to pop in quite often for brief comments, but longer periods of research and rewriting have been hard to scrounge up recently. (I recently moved into a new place, have new clients, and a lot is going on generally!) If it turns out that I have the time when you begin, then I'd love to be involved. But, if you're looking to have a collaborator who's definitely available throughout the whole process, you might not want to count on me, unfortunately. If nothing else, I can definitely provide input, and maybe some corrections/source suggestions/typo fixes/etc. For the record, I appreciate your level-headedness in the discussion as well! :) Either way, I'd definitely wait until the dust is really settled before you begin, otherwise, it'll make the process a lot harder!   — Jess· Δ♥ 02:22, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

It's being rewritten and expanded offline (remember, in emacs, because I hate vi), so I don't disrupt the actual article, and can make it "B-class" before it goes live: if I just start in on Wikispace, the article will get much worse (not to mention confusing and disorganized, as I jump much between one section and another) before it gets better. I think I can start a sub-userpage-userspace-page to host parts of it on, and I will send you a link whenever a new part is up, to which you can mark up, revise, reword, and comment at your leisure. St John Chrysostom /_my bias 02:32, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Deletion

My comments were not a discussion.

They were related to the article and were a reply to the topic.

Someone was questioning whether "agnostic atheism" was an oxymoron and I gave an explanation.--108.49.116.97 (talk) 18:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi 108.49, welcome to wikipedia. I appreciate you trying to help out and respond to questions on the talk page. However, if you read through WP:NOTFORUM and WP:TALK, you'll see that talk pages are intended for discussion of improvements to the article, not the article subject. Your comments were an attempt to discuss the subject, which is generally discouraged. If you have suggestions to improve the article, that would be great; please post specific proposals on the talk page (specific wording and sources are always helpful). Also, you may consider creating an account to make discussing these topics a little easier. Thanks! See you around!   — Jess· Δ♥ 19:09, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I dont like what you did. I hope you are a better person than your actions seem to indicate. It was incredibly insensitive. And from what I can tell you have never been a regular contributor. Please become a member of the community before you try to destroy the community. I am probably going to quit editing today for Wiki because of what you did. Hope that makes you feel better. (Sunnydoo (talk) 02:39, 16 April 2012 (UTC))

These sorts of comments are really not helpful. As I've indicated repeatedly on the talk page, I'm doing my best to work collaboratively with everyone who has an interest in this issue. We have inclusion criteria on the article with says "articles need to meet WP:N and have an article to be included", but that part of our criteria isn't being upheld.   — Jess· Δ♥ 02:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Look a lot of us put a lot of time into the resource. We undergo a constant barrage of attacks from people being funny and vandalizing the wall (the main reason it is semi-protected) to people meaning well but doing the wrong thing. Several of us have to visit the site a few times an hour to make sure that it is meeting the standards. If you want to walk into the community and start a discussion- fine I have no problem with that. You made your point. However when you did it the 2nd time, thats what was problematic to me. You are getting into infantile and churlish behavior territory.

If you look at the notability requirements, you can understand there is some vagueness to them. If I am in Denver and the Communist Leader of India dies, but he does not have his own wiki article, what makes him less notable? It may not be notable to me, but it may be to someone else who did not realize he didnt have a page. We find a lot of these issues with foreign notability types. It is published in a credible world newspaper and by the BBC. What makes him not notable? Secondly, people do fall through the woodwork. I worked on a scientist that died this month who didnt have an article yet she developed the Whooping Cough Vaccine. You think that wasnt notable? It probably saved well into the millions of lives.

I think you are looking for an end product and that is fine to you. We are looking at it as a living resource. There is no problem with leaving the names up for 30 days and then disposing them. That has worked well in the past and although it takes a little work on the back end, it saves a lot of conflict on the front end over who is arguing who is notable or not and who ultimately decides that they are in fact notable. This is a board for everyone- not just you. Just because you are having problems with your Blackberry and lag time doesnt necessitate an emergency for all of us.

I am sorry I was testier earlier and its probably a good thing I didnt say what I wanted to say. But you just dont walk in somewhere and act like you own the place. There is a process to things and you violated that process and trust. If you want to see how to facilitate a discussion correctly, look at the Table Section that was introduced earlier in the month.(Sunnydoo (talk) 08:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC))

Please read WP:OWN, as well as the other policy pages I've linked. The article isn't open just to the regulars, nor are they a privileged editing class. I've reverted a whole of 1 time on the article, ever, which was explained amply on the talk page before and after the revert, on top of an open invitation for anyone else to revert me with discussion. This combativeness I'm seeing everywhere is unwarranted. I'm following policy to the letter (beyond that, even).

I made a few bold edits in line with our content guidelines and applicable to every other article across the site. I was reverted on each one. I opened discussion on the talk page for each topic, and was met with a (frankly unacceptable) level of hostility. I've been civil and engaging to every single editor who's wished to discuss the topic with me. On the topic of notability, I was told by the opposing editor to try the edit again, but instead of doing that, I left discussion open for another week and asked for further input. When I didn't get any, I tried the edit again and received waves of anger and bad faith. As a measure of goodwill, I posted thankful messages to a few of the more level-headed editors, hoping that'd cultivate collaboration. I just got berated more for that.

Look, just because I'm not lashing out at everyone and I'm going well out of my way to be nice in every one of my comments doesn't mean I can be treated like a whipping post. There's this anti-Jess bandwagon on the page, and I see from the archives I'm not the only one who's been treated that way. It needs to stop. It's fine for you to come here and discuss behavior with me, but the idea that my reverting an edit once to spur discussion as WP:BRD suggests and then civilly handling the boatload of fallout is somehow indicative of problematic behavior is lunacy. I deal with contentious religious articles nearly every day... this article is in its whole own class. I'm going to continue civilly engaging everyone on the talk page, and I'm going to continue trying to come up with creative ways to collaborate with everyone on solving any legitimate issues that arise. If there's some kind of problem with that, let me know, but otherwise I think we can leave this to the article talk page.   — Jess· Δ♥ 14:26, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

BTW, I don't have a blackberry. You got that comment from someone who's been vehemently opposing all of my edits to the page. That was one of his arguments for opposing them.   — Jess· Δ♥ 14:29, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Well then I apologize for arguing with misinformation. I accepted what was said at face value. However, the hostility you are seeing isnt necessarily being directed just at you. Like I said we have seen a number of attacks on the page over the past year. It got to the point where we had to semi-protect it and each editor is still seeing problems weekly with it being vandalized. We also have several running battles with people who dont feel animals or objects such as Trees qualify for the list. Those are reason #1 why when wholesale changes are made, people flip out. Also its not that change is scary, there are just quite a few different editors that handle a variety of sources. To give you an example, we have a guy who does nothing but watch a database of Catholic priests. When a substantial member of the clergy dies (usually Bishop and above), he will enter an article on Wiki and it usually happens in the overnight hours (the original guy lives in Europe). There is a 2nd gentleman who is from Wisconsin who will come in in the early morning (around 6 or 7 am EST) that will update that information off of a red link and convert it to a blue link stub with the Catholic source codes.

The 2nd part of this is again we have tried what you are saying in the past. It leads to contention because someone has to judge whether or not someone who is a redlink is put in. If the death is covered by AP or the BBC, I see no reason not to put the person in the database for 30 days. If someone thinks that person is special enough, they can then start an article to save the link. However, with the number of editors we have and the different functions they carry out, many of us dont have time to necessarily start an article for every person that is linked. I for one carry do a lot of the grunt work as far as research of all of the deaths to confirm "Cause of Death" and handle many of the "Breaking News" deaths in the EST overnight hours.

My last point still stands though. This is more of a clearinghouse rather than an end product. That is it is meant to be a source of workable information and not just a dead list of names. If it as you say that you are not concerned with lag on your blackberry which the other gentleman alluded to, what is your problem with the current system? I know you were arguing about notability and I re-read the notability policy. However, again there is some vagueness to it and I would want to get your opinion on why you think someone is not directly notable enough? And I will let you use a current example of a redlink- check out Gabriel Țepelea, 96, Romanian politician, MP (1990–2000), natural causes. (Romanian) from April 12th. Currently members of the US Congress and State Congresses as well as British, Irish, Australian and Scottish MPs are given links and stub articles and listed in blue after various editors deal with their case. Why would a Romanian politician with the same basic job description be unworthy? The death was covered in the European papers and by the BBC European branch. (Sunnydoo (talk) 18:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC))

GOCE March drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far. Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers. Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk) To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Thanks

Thanks Jess for the Misplaced Pages intro and orientation. Regards --Dizzybee (talk) 20:37, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Hope you enjoy it here! If you have any questions, feel free to ask, or put the {{helpme}} template on your talk page. Good luck!   — Jess· Δ♥ 01:53, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Get a sense of humor

THE INTERNET IS SERIOUZ BUzINESS!

Yikes do you ever need to calm down when people are trying to poke fun at something. Recently you had jumped all over the 'ban hammer' when a user changed the computer keyboard page.

This was funny, tasteful, and likely only meant to be temporary - you stole the humor out of it, and furthermore made yourself look like a (insert flavorful word for unjust angry person).

Whereas I agree the post eventually needed to be corrected, giving the user "His final warning" is showing you are on a power trip and must feed the need for control.

Get a life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.226.93 (talk) 20:08, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

The user to whom I issued a final warning had already vandalized the page multiple times, and was bragging about hopping ips. There are lots of places on the internet for humor; wikipedia articles are not one of them. This is a serious, academic project, which is used by billions of people for actual research. Randall would certainly not approve of vandalizing it in his name. If you want to have some fun in the spirit of xkcd (a comic I love, btw), there are plenty of venues to do so: uncyclopedia, xkcd's wiki, etc. This is not the place, any more than spraypainting obscenities all over the books at your local library and letting someone else clean up the mess. Just enjoy the comic for what it is, and take it to the forums if you want to get involved.   — Jess· Δ♥ 20:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I myself tried to revert his vandalism here, on this talk page, and on the articlespace as well, as it popped up on two of my watch-list pages at once. I gave him levels one through four vandalism templates, each one being removed within a matter of seconds (literally; I couldn't type them fast enough to keep them on his page), before I declared I was going to AN/V - and he was banned before I hit "save page". Good riddance. It wasn't good humor, it was single-purpose trolling and vandalism suited to 4chan. St John Chrysostom _τω 05:02, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for welcoming me on Misplaced Pages! Kalotus (talk) 19:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Kalotus, and no probem! I hope you enjoy editing here. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. All the best,   — Jess· Δ♥ 17:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Request edit, lightbulb

I am an electrician and I just thought it would be humorous to have a COI request for the wikipedians changing lightbulbs article. I can see how it affects the backlog count and may cause editors to waste time on the article. At the same time it may be humorous to leave it in the category as a joke to play on editors new to the request edit list. Regulars of that list would just ignore that article, knowing it is in jest.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:50, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I saw the humor in it. On the other hand, the Requested edit category is a serious category which is necessary to the project for handling the requests of new users. Due to the nature of wikipedia, we can also expect new users to see the requested edit without being familiar with its history, so it staying there for any long term is probably not viable. Perhaps you can copy the formatting of the requested edit template, and paste that in the top of the talk page section. That way, it'll show up like a requested edit (for humorous reasons), but not interfere with the normal function of the requested edit category. Would that work? Thanks.   — Jess· Δ♥ 17:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I copied the text from the template, and I think I removed the 'ad cat' section. I wonder if it would look nice on the main article page as well with -see talk, (Edit request section) underneath it.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Cool. Glad that solution worked out :) It's been good meeting you! See you around,   — Jess· Δ♥ 01:42, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Just to let you know. :) Lynch7 18:18, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the update! I didn't have the page watchlisted (just responding to edit requests not on my watchlist). I responded back there. Good meeting you!   — Jess· Δ♥ 18:29, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Academy of Achievement

		The Original Barnstar
		Thanks for your bold action on the Academy of Achievement article, and for your sound judgment in trimming the section under discussion. It's very much appreciated. WWB Too (talk) 18:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks WWB Too. I'm glad my revision was helpful! Looking forward to working with you guys in the future! All the best,   — Jess· Δ♥ 01:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Plantinga edit

Dear Jess,

I recently updated Alvin Plantinga's Misplaced Pages page, but my edit was taken down almost immediately. My edit was to include, in the personal history section, the fact that in June, 2011, Alvin Plantinga had a problem with his AC.

I understand that this is a fairly trivial fact to include. And I understand that, for economy's sake, not everything about everyone can be included on Misplaced Pages, so if my comment was not deemed important enough, I understand.

However, I was a little confused by how you characterized my response. You suggested that it was a "joke" response, and you implied that it was not accurate. I'll admit that I initially thought it worthy of inclusion on Misplaced Pages because I thought it was humorous, but then again several things are notable because of their humor. It was also entirely accurate, and well-cited. I included a link to a real youtube video showing Alvin Plantinga, as featured on a local news show. In it, Plantinga commented on his recent AC troubles. I thought this was funny -- and, as such, worthy of note -- because Plantinga is a famous philosopher, and the news segment at no point referenced this. Furthermore, I think that Plantinga's willingness to present himself as just a "local guy" shows great humility, and therefore provides valuable insight into his character.

I'd like you to add the edit back in. If you deem it isn't worth the space, I understand that and will respect your decision. But I do not want to be painted as an individual who is attempting to misinform or anger others, and so I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't characterize my intentions as such.

Yours,

Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.143.148.12 (talk) 19:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Nick. Thanks for your comments. We don't typically include content just because it's humorous, or because it provides "insight into the subject's character". WP:N, WP:Weight and WP:V determine which content we include - that is to say, the reliable sources determine it for us. Youtube is not typically a reliable source, so we'd have to have something better in order to include such content. Please read over WP:BRD when you have a chance; per that page, the next step after being reverted is to discuss the matter on the article talk page. Feel free to do so there, and you may find input from other editors as well. Thanks.   — Jess· Δ♥ 01:39, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Turbocharger Request Edit

Thanks for answering my request edit. The original image is crisp, but the thumb is blurry. I've had this problem before, but never found out how to fix it. Is it a ratio problem maybe? User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 22:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh I think it's just a browser issue. Images get blurry if my browser zooms in and out. Sorry for pestering. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 22:07, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi King. Sorry I didn't see your post earlier, I've been off wikipedia for a few days. Glad everything worked out! Let me know if there's anything else you need help with :)   — Jess· Δ♥ 02:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

There's mountains I could use help with, but to avoid monopolizing your time, I'll just bring up that Silver has been poking around for help manning the request edit queue if you're interested. I have a couple in there that are pretty clear-cut improvements to subject articles. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 03:58, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mann Jess. If the offer still stands, I have one issue in particular I could really use help with. See my COIN post on EUCLID (university) here. I feel I have exhausted all my options at this point... User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 22:34, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Yea, I've been getting more into clearing the Requested Edit queue recently. I wish I could have been more involved with the COI-based requests, but they tend to be very lengthy, which has made it hard. You're right that 1 month is way too long. Way too long. Most requests get handled long before that, within the day or week timeframe. I think part of the issue is that the requests you've made appear to be very substantial; for future edits, it might help if you could break them up into separate, small changes. I'm sure that would encourage editors to hop in and handle the edit requests in a timely fashion. Anyway, I have some work to do tonight, but I'll do my best to get in there and review the request. Sorry the community has been so slow with this - we're usually a little more on top of the ball! All the best,   — Jess· Δ♥ 23:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. That's good feedback RE taking it one step at a time. Lets start with one. According to the current article: The State of Maine includes EUCLID on its list of "Unaccredited Post-Secondary Educational Institutions". I've provided the updated list to show this is no longer true. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 19:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Review request, if you're able

Hi there Jess, thanks again for your edits on Academy of Achievement. As I mentioned on that Talk page last week, I'm currently working on a related article, EduCap, and wonder if you would have the time or interest to review a new draft I have prepared? I have the same COI with EduCap, so it's my goal to refrain from any direct edits to the mainspace.

The proposed draft is here, and my explanation of the draft on EduCap Talk page is here. You'll see there I've been discussing it with DGG, but he seems busy and I don't want to burden him too much. I've also sought assistance at WikiProject Cooperation, where I've also sought to bring new voices to EduCap Talk.

Let me know if you can help. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 17:46, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi WWB. Thanks for the invitation to look the draft over. I've been off wikipedia for a few days, and my time is kind of stretched, but I'll do my best to review your changes over the weekend if I can. It's been good working with you - I'm sure I'll see you back over at the article! All the best,   — Jess· Δ♥ 02:32, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

When is new not new?

Appreciate the greeting. I'm not new, but have changed identities, kind of accidentally. I'd forgotten I already had an account. So now I have two. It seems a tad dishonest to maintain them both, is there any way to integrate both my selves into a single account? Alienplayer (talk) 11:49, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

See WP:Multiple Accounts (also WP:MULTIPLE). Having two is fine, but you're usually encouraged to place the {{Alternate account}} template on the secondary user page. (For instance, I am also User:Jess, so that page uses the Alternate account template. Eventually I'll switch to using Jess primarily, and then I'll remove the template from that user page and put it on User:Mann_jess instead) If you want to delete one of the accounts, you can (effectively) do that by changing its name and then scrambling the password (see WP:UNC), but this is not necessary. I don't think it's possible to merge contribution histories for two accounts, but you could ask at WP:Village pump; after all, I am wrong sometimes :P I'm glad you decided to come back! Let me know if you have any other questions. All the best,   — Jess· Δ♥ 14:49, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Wolff Olins edit

Hi Jess, Thanks for your response to my comments on the Wolff Olins page! I've written up a "suggested change" so if you have a moment, I'd love to hear what you think and if appropriate, have you add it into the article. thanks so much, Sbl19 (talk) 20:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

GOCE March drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! This is the most successful drive we have had for quite a while. Here is your end-of-drive wrap-up newsletter. Participation Of the 70 people who signed up for this drive, 40 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Special acknowledgement goes out to Lfstevens, who did over 200 articles, most of them in the last third of the drive, and topped all three leaderboard categories. You're a superstar! Stfg and others have been pre-checking the articles for quality and conformance to Misplaced Pages guidelines; some have been nominated for deletion or had some preliminary clean-up done to help make the copy-edit process more fun and appealing. Thanks to all who helped get those nasty last few articles out of the target months. Progress report During this drive we were successful in eliminating our target months—October, November, and December 2010—from the queue, and have now eliminated all the 2010 articles from our list. We were able to complete 500 articles this month! End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here. When working on the backlog, please keep in mind that there are options other than copy-editing available; some articles may be candidates for deletion, or may not be suitable for copy-editing at this time for other reasons. The {{GOCEreviewed}} tag can be placed on any article you find to be totally uneditable, and you can nominate for deletion any that you discover to be copyright violations or completely unintelligible. If you need help deciding what to do, please contact any of the coordinators. Thank you for participating in the March 2012 drive! All contributions are appreciated. Our next copy-edit drive will be in May. Your drive coordinators – Dianna , Stfg (Talk), and Dank (talk) To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. EdwardsBot (talk) 22:10, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Regarding PHP criticism section

Hi, I was the one who made that section. I wasn't logged in. I understand the tone could be a lot less negative. I just think it would be worth pointing out in the article opinions towards it, trying to be neutral and presenting both sides, of course. AJF (talk) 23:48, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ajfweb. It's good to meet you! :) I'm not necessarily opposed to including a criticism section, but you're correct that the tone was a problem, and we were lacking in some quality reliable sources for all of the claims. IIRC, there was also a problem with weasel words, which we usually like to avoid, such as "Many", "Some", etc. I think the best thing to do would be to find some good sources which talk about various criticisms of php, and then propose the section on the talk page so we can work on it a bit. Would that work? Thanks!   — Jess· Δ♥ 00:54, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

editing page

i am trying to add our job search engines to the "job search engines wiki" page ...

cbcjobs.com - general job search engine acetiger.com - first ever technical job search engine

help would be appreciated, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Califmerchant2 (talk • contribs) 00:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Califmerchant. Thanks for the contributions! I understand you're trying to add those sites to the article, and if they are notable resources, I'm sure they would be a great addition. However, AFAICT, the list you're changing only includes sites which pass WP:N, and therefore have a wikipedia article devoted just to them. I don't know whether these meet that criteria (maybe they do), but without any reliable sources, it's really hard to say. If you can find some quality reliable sources which talk about these sites, then feel free to re-enable the requested edit template on the article talk page, and I'm sure an editor will be by to make the change! Let me know if you have any other questions! Thanks!   — Jess· Δ♥ 00:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request

Hello.

I cannot edit the page myself. It's semi-protected, and I'm an anonymous editor. I would like to request that the edit be implemented, unless I am missing some important information. Please let me know. Alert me on my talk page. Thanks. 75.53.218.81 (talk) 02:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Re: Talk:Deaths in 2012#A real example

An hour and 42 minutes since you were reverted isn't really much time to have let the conversation progress, regardless of the time of day where you are. Dru of Id (talk) 03:52, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what you're referring to... but I let it sit more than 4 days before re-inserting the content. See the discussion Non-notable entries on the talk page for background and an explanation. Thanks.   — Jess· Δ♥ 03:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

You boldly removed , were reverted in the next edit 13 minutes later , then removed it again, an hour and 42 minutes later. Dru of Id (talk) 04:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

...And I was your first respondent in that discussion, although I've forgotten how to follow them... Dru of Id (talk) 04:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, and I also explained that on the talk page, before and after making it. The first revert you listed was made with the intent to spur discussion on the topic, but it was immediately reverted by a user who hadn't read or responded to my edit summary, and hadn't read or responded to the talk page. His stated reason for the revert was that "we do things this way", which I understood and was attempting to discuss. The goal of the edit was to spur discussion, which an immediate revert without discussion wouldn't have accomplished. However, my first revert (the second edit you listed) accomplished that goal. Once discussion started, I encouraged anyone unhappy with the edit to remove it as they saw fit. All of this should be perfectly in line with policy. I've gone way out of my way to work collaboratively and above the board on all my edits to this article, so if anything else is unclear, let me know. Thanks.   — Jess· Δ♥ 04:12, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

And yep, I recognized you from the previous discussion. I appreciated your input there. You were the first to bring up the to-do list issue. How did/do you feel about the WP:Requested articles/Deaths list I created? As I mentioned on the talk page, the requested articles section in WP space is intended just for that, so I was hoping that list might be useful to some regulars of the Deaths in.. articles.   — Jess· Δ♥ 04:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Here Pass a Method talk 18:15, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May copy edit drive

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AN/I

Hi,
This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Viriditas_and_User:Anupam regarding a dispute between other editors, which briefly touches on some of your edits. Feel free to comment on the thread and provide your own perspective on events. bobrayner (talk) 09:57, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Asexuality as a main sexual orientation

Mann jess, please see Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality#Asexuality as a main sexual orientation about the validity of User:Pass a Method adding that asexuality is "a main category of sexual orientation" to the Heterosexuality, Homosexuality and Bisexuality articles. Obviously, comments on the matter are needed. Flyer22 (talk) 14:18, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Arbcom case

I have filed an arbcom case related to the mailing list that you are alledged to be coordinating with. You can review the case at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Anupam_.26_Bobrayner and provide a statement. Hipocrite (talk) 17:47, 8 May 2012 (UTC)