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	Additionally, I think the criticism should probably be moved to it's own section, as it doesn't really fit the content that surrounds it, and it's the main reason why people will be visiting the page now. ] (]) 18:48, 16 May 2012 (UTC)		Additionally, I think the criticism should probably be moved to it's own section, as it doesn't really fit the content that surrounds it, and it's the main reason why people will be visiting the page now. ] (]) 18:48, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

			== Pyramid Selling, Multilevel Marketing, and Direct Marketing. ==

			There seems to be a little confusing about exactly how Melaleuca works, and I think this is important for the article. Some sources say it is a ] model, such as the and the . Pyramid selling links to ], which is '''not''' what these sources are saying. It looks like they are describing ], which is different enough that it's legal. Although that term has very negative connotation, I can't really find any difference between what Melaleuca does and the strict definition of multilevel marketing. Melaleuca itself uses the term ], which is a very vague article in this context. As far as I can tell, they are not explaining that it's different from multilevel marketing so much as emphasizing that the seller doesn't have to keep the product on-hand, hence direct. Since most secondary sources, even fairly flattering ones such as the use some variation of multilevel marketing I think we should go with that. This official makes it very, very clear that they use a multilevel marketing model. Just because they call it something else, it is screamingly obvious that it is a multilevel marketing company. ] (]) 05:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

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I just added a link to this article: It raises WP:BLP issues, but I think it's fairly reliable, and as long as we describe it as 'allegations' rather than state it as fact, I think it can go in the article. Robofish (talk) 19:43, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Criticisms

Currently, over 50% of the criticism section are direct quotes from the subject. It should probably be focused on detailing the criticisms as opposed to the subject's responses. Additionally, I am not sure the wording conforms to community guidelines. This page will likely receive additional traffic as the subject is the media attention. However, I am not very sure what should be done. Trabisnikof (talk) 01:35, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I have added a summarized version of some of the complaints leveled against him, as including a section that has him responding to accusations without stating what he was accused of is pretty absurd. WhoIsWillo (talk) 02:55, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Additionally, I think the criticism should probably be moved to it's own section, as it doesn't really fit the content that surrounds it, and it's the main reason why people will be visiting the page now. WhoIsWillo (talk) 18:48, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Pyramid Selling, Multilevel Marketing, and Direct Marketing.

There seems to be a little confusing about exactly how Melaleuca works, and I think this is important for the article. Some sources say it is a pyramid selling model, such as the Mother Jones one and the Salon.com article. Pyramid selling links to Pyramid scheme, which is not what these sources are saying. It looks like they are describing multilevel marketing, which is different enough that it's legal. Although that term has very negative connotation, I can't really find any difference between what Melaleuca does and the strict definition of multilevel marketing. Melaleuca itself uses the term direct marketing, which is a very vague article in this context. As far as I can tell, they are not explaining that it's different from multilevel marketing so much as emphasizing that the seller doesn't have to keep the product on-hand, hence direct. Since most secondary sources, even fairly flattering ones such as the Forbes.com article use some variation of multilevel marketing I think we should go with that. This official video makes it very, very clear that they use a multilevel marketing model. Just because they call it something else, it is screamingly obvious that it is a multilevel marketing company. Grayfell (talk) 05:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

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