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Hello to all fellow Wikipedians. Be assured I'll be as courteous as possible & I'm looking forward to meeting you. GoodDay 22:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC).

You may be wondering why my archives only start at August 2007. The reason: I didn't archive my pages before that date, I merely deleted them (as I didn't know how to archive). Therefore, if anyone wishes to see material before August 2007? check out this talkpage's 'history'.

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My Mentors

Danbarnesdavies & Steven Zhang. These gentlemen, will help me tweak my behaviour/conduct on Misplaced Pages; particularly in the areas of British & Irish politics.

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French Presidents

Howdy, I agree that Sarkozy is still in office, but shouldn't you still show the day he leaves office, unless for some reason he gets asassinated between then? Then the article can be re-edited, but I'm just curious to know why you'd wait. Lastly, I come in peace, and have good intentions. Sincerely, Supafreak9999

His departure date is already shown via the inauguration date of Hollande. We must remember, Sarkozy could die or choose to resign, before his term expires. GoodDay (talk) 23:14, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for responding, and I agree, and speaking of leaders I also think that so far the best prime minister we have had, is Robert Borden, what about you, because it also seems like you are in to politics as well.

Yeah, Borden ranks up there at the top. GoodDay (talk) 01:23, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad someone agrees, because it seems even though our Prime Minister is Conservative, most of the people have Liberal views, which seems to be a reason why most people don't rank the Conservatives high, also, don't get me wrong, I like William Lyon Mackenzie King too, even though I'm moderate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supafreak9999 (talk • contribs) 23:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

King lost pts with, when he tried to get the UK involved with events in 1926. GoodDay (talk) 23:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

You sure know your politics, but compared to John Turner and Paul Martin, he's one of the better liberals, and also, our first ever prime minister was Conservative, so we should be getting a little more praise from the liberals. Conservatism rocks!

Not the same Conservative party, but there's a link. GoodDay (talk) 01:56, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, true, same with the United States president Franklin Pierce, he was considered a conservative at his time, but had very liberal beliefs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supafreak9999 (talk • contribs) 21:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

A Democrat. GoodDay (talk) 21:27, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Yep, around there, they have Independents, Republicans, and Democrats. The Democrats run on a liberal agenda, while the Republican have a conservative belief, one of my favorite Republican presidents around there is Ronald Reagan, and even though I'm not a left wing, I must say that Harry S. Truman, is one of the better Democrats they've had, and in the U.K., it's mainly the Labour and Conservative parties, sorry if I'm confusing you a bit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supafreak9999 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not confused. GoodDay (talk) 01:15, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for being sincere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supafreak9999 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

No prob. GoodDay (talk) 21:22, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

AN/I

This is to notify you that, though you have not been named, a matter to which you are related has been raised at WP:ANI. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 15:53, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Civility

Calling someone a "... monarchist POV-pusher," as you did here seems contrary to WP:CIV. Would you please strike out, or remove this comment? Sunray (talk) 05:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

I've complied, but my concerns are growing about the Canadian monarchist PoV pushing. GoodDay (talk) 05:19, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Cool. POV pushing is always annoying. The only course, IMO is to refer them to WP:WEIGHT and WP:VER. Sunray (talk) 15:30, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Fame

You're in with the In-Crowd baby! I just saw a blog where you were being discussed. Remember what Andy Warhol predicted?!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Was I given a bad review? GoodDay (talk) 17:23, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

No. A group of people were discussing the British Isles dispute here and you were brought up as being a Canadian Republican who'd joined the fray.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:27, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Betcha they were surprised that I supported the article's title. GoodDay (talk) 17:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

They were, actually.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:21, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha, it shows that I'm a NPoV editor. Thus my ban from British & Irish articles. GoodDay (talk) 18:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Oi, mate.

Don't feed the trolls, yeah? Good man. ✝DBD 20:56, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I read ya ;) GoodDay (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Indeed. Behave :-) Steven Zhang 23:34, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thelus Lero

Hello. Firstly, who are you, why are you following my edits, and why are you on my Talk Page? As regards your question about WP:Moving a page, take Thélus Léro as an example. The only sources in the article are in French, not surprising given that he was a Martiniquais communist politician. The source in the article is Dictionnaire des parlementaires français. And what is your question exactly? In ictu oculi (talk) 17:28, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm an editor who believe english should be used on English language Misplaced Pages - imagine that. You shouldn't be unilaterally moving articles to diacritical titles, particularly when this is English language Misplaced Pages. I'm quite concerned with these moves as they come across as arrogant in nature & they disregard the 'dispute' over the topic diacritics. GoodDay (talk) 17:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome to your view, but I'm not aware that there is a dispute about French politicians where the only source is www.senat.fr (for example http://www.senat.fr/senateur-4eme-republique/lero_thelus0126r4.html etc). This is the first time I have ever come across anyone objecting to editing an article in accordance with the only available sources. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:42, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

You're making mass page moves without benefit of RMs & so you're bound to get somebody's attention. As for diacritics in a French person's name? leave those for the French language Misplaced Pages. GoodDay (talk) 17:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Again you are welcome to your view but perhaps you may not have seen the following guideline:

Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (use English) "If this happens, follow the conventions of the language in which this entity is most often talked about (German for German politicians, Turkish for Turkish rivers,..."

Likewise you may also wish to browse around Category:French politicians. Cheers and take care :). In ictu oculi (talk) 17:52, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Those aren't policies (i.e the 5 pillars). Leave the diacritics for the non-English Wikipedias & please stop unilaterally moving pages. GoodDay (talk) 17:55, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I think perhaps it's better if you talk to someone else about this, yes. For example you seem to be on some kind of mentor programme, am I right? You are totally free to discuss, object, or even revert edits or moves you don't agree with, but the recent edits I'm assuming you're referring to, Mohamadou Djibrilla Maïga, Thélus Léro, Victor Sablé, Camille Darsières, etc. are completely within the frame of normal wp editing and sourcing guidelines, as I said, please look at the sources and the category. Best wishes :) In ictu oculi (talk) 18:15, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Those shouldn't have been moved without benefit of an RM. It wouldn't have been too much trouble to have gone that route, even if the end result was 'to move'. GoodDay (talk) 18:17, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

If you wish there are a couple of other Martiniquais politicians that I was working on which were also stubbed incorrectly, the http://www.senat.fr/senateur-4eme-republique/etifier_raphael0458r4.html for example, if you wish I could the remaining 5 or 6 through RM if you wish to see how people view them: Raphael Etifier, Rene Jadfard, Frederic Jalton, Jose Moustache Edouard Chammougon, if that would make you feel more comfortable? In ictu oculi (talk) 18:29, 12 May 2012 (UTC) ‎

Please do, put those up for RMs & revert the unilateral page moves, you've already made. I don't have the freedom to unilaterally 'move' pages to non-diacritics titles or to revert your page moves. GoodDay (talk) 18:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Well the 5-6 new French politicians will achieve the same result, and if they don't pass I'll revert the others myself, but I'm less sure it sends the right message to be preemptively reverting perfectly legitimate sourced edits, even as good faith to you when 1 person objects. These aren't controversial areas like tennis or hockey players after all. Let me think about that. I have to go offline for a time now, cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:41, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm just not a fan of 'mass page' moving, particularly in the diacritics area. GoodDay (talk) 18:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi again. That's understandable. FWIW I'm not sure there are 'masses' left undiacritic (outside hockey and tennis of course) anyway, in fact surprisingly most of the recent corrections I've made have actually been corrections of bungled diacritics, where only 1 accent was present, and turning 1 accent into 2 accents, they weren't actually moves from zero to diacritics. The exceptions are the Martiniquais politicians on http://www.senat.fr since evidently the original editor Gazelle actually tried to create them with French orthography, he just missed some, presumably because of the user-unfriendly way the www.senat.fr website is formatted. I will leave your North American hockey players well alone :) Okay, I'm turning in for the evening, Good night. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:59, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Remember, no more unilateral moves from 'no dios' to 'dios'. GoodDay (talk) 19:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I wish you hadn't said that, I am being nice here. If I choose to do what I said above it's because I choose and because you may find it helpful. Which means, I'm sorry, but you don't get to say what you just said. That's fair isn't it :), now Good night. In ictu oculi (talk) 19:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not the only editor who's concerned about your actions. If you don't start going about the RM route, more editors will complain & some of them aren't as nice as me. GoodDay (talk) 19:39, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

(Re: your edit summary) I wasn't trying to provoke anyone, I was trying to get a clarification on whether your statement immediately above is intended as a disguised threat. Because it could be perceived like one. It would have been – and still would be – very easy for you to clarify that it isn't intended that way. HandsomeFella (talk) 23:05, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

It's not a threat, as I can't accurately predict the future posts of other editors. GoodDay (talk) 23:06, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you explain, briefly, exactly what restrictions, voluntary or otherwise you are under in regard to your opposition to accents on foreign names. You say you cannot make/revert page moves on your own, is that a technical issue or a voluntary restriction? In ictu oculi (talk) 23:51, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not restricted to unilaterally moving pages from dios to non-dios. I choose not to, as I prefer the RM route. GoodDay (talk) 23:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Wind your neck in!

Seriously, fella, can't you just relax and not worry about diacritics? I really, really think you just need to give up on this – you are not going to win. Your time is much better used on other pursuits. I am pretty seriously fed up of this particular issue showing you up, because you are, by and large, a fine editor otherwise. ✝DBD 23:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

What happened? GoodDay (talk) 00:26, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I finally caught up on some reading – particularly that whopping section above... ✝DBD 00:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, things have cooled down since then. GoodDay (talk) 00:36, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

If someone has a concern with you, I'd advise you at least discuss the issue with them. The last comment you removed looked to be in good faith in my view. Steven Zhang 03:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm concerned with the other editor, that keeps 'complaining' to you, as though I were breeching some kinda 'interaction' ban between he/she & I. GoodDay (talk) 03:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Of course you're not under an interaction ban between them, but there's a fine line to be followed, and the editor feels you're watching their edits a bit closely, which is something to avoid. Might be time to work on M*A*S*H or gnoming for a while? Steven Zhang 09:36, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

He's just paranoid, 'cause we're on opposite sides of diacritics usage. Anyways, I'll try to avoid him in the future. GoodDay (talk) 10:13, 22 May 2012 (UTC)