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The movement has been going on since September 17th, and protest and meetings have been held everyday. The movement has been going on since September 17th, and protest and meetings have been held everyday.
As long as actions are planned in the future and are being active right now, it should remain it's ongoing status. As long as actions are planned in the future and are being active right now, it should remain it's ongoing status.

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...intentionally, of course. Need your guys' help. I have added sections to the Political Activity section of this article ] that is being hotly contested by conservative Tea-Partiers. Its creating more work than I could have ever imagined. I have to argue down repeated re-visitation of the same arguments by different users over and over and over again. And one user that acts like an attorney, where, if one argument doesn't work, well then, he'll just try another, and another, and another. I've asked for the article to be protected so this can all be discussed on the talk page, but all that did was get more attention focused on the article by what appear to be conservative "Citation BOTs". Help!!! LoL! --] (]) 01:16, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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I've removed the Russia Today news template from the page, as it had raised concern because it pointed to a single trending news page, rather than a selection of trend pages, and after discussion in the appropriate places, it's easier to remove it than it is to add lots of other trend pages, as I don't know of any (don't have time to look). If there are any comments, concerns, or suggestions please reply on my talkpage, as I don't watch this page. Penyulap 03:44, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Violence

I think we can now clearly add Violence as a characteristic of the movement. Arzel (talk) 13:50, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Are you joking? Try to keep the POV pushing to a minimum. The sloppy, ignorant screed you wish to suggest as a reliable source seems to classify as an editorial, at best, and ends by praising the tea party. Not the best source, perhaps. And if you dug into the bridge thing a little more, you might see that the plot was essentially assembled by the FBI, using a recently favored tactic of theirs. The people arrested are apparently immature and full of bravado, but before the FBI got involved, it seems the limit of their terrorist machinations amounted to smoke bombs and minor property damage (destroying signs). I think you'll need stronger sourcing and evidence than this, but it's good to know where your interest in this topic is coming from... Sindinero (talk) 16:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
If you have a deaths/injuries category, how does it not qualify as violent protest? Feel free to keep the nonviolent protest, but certainly some of the Occupy movements (such as Oakland) have been violent. Deerekid1 (talk) 12:18, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
It's a fair question. First of all, the link to "Nonviolent protests" is listed as a characteristic of the movement. Ignoring the fact that WP doesn't actually have an article on "violent protests," and thus the fact that your change created a redlink, sources would have to be provided to show that violence is in fact a defining characteristic of the occupy movement. Violence can happen in many ways: there can be violence by some protesters towards others that is incidental to the actual demonstrations and occupations, there can be violence by the police towards the protesters, there can be isolated acts of property destruction or violence by protesters towards police. Much of this violence wouldn't change the presumed character of occupy as non-violent (for example, if the police beat demonstrators this would have no bearing on the fact that the demonstration itself was non-violent; this was the case in many civil rights marches). To characterize a given movement as violent, strong sources are needed. Sindinero (talk) 12:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Occupy Moscow

is now (finally) getting some serious media coverage and more than deserves a mention here - these people are risking their lives for freedom: .92.24.191.247 (talk) 15:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Could anyone please add paragraph on "Occupy Abai" in Moscow? Regretfully I'm not so fluent with English to do it myself.
http://observers.france24.com/content/20120511-occupy-goes-russian-anti-putin-protesters-set-camp-moscow-abai-abay-election-vote-fraud-statue-arrests
http://rt.com/news/occupy-moscow-protests-putin-123/
Fedorkov Dmitry (talk) 10:27, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Political reactions implausible

The section on "Reactions" / "Political" cannot be representative of what is going on. Reading it, I get the impression that world leaders tend to support the movement - Obama for instance. This is just plain illogical - they are on opposite sides. This needs to be better constructed to reflect reality. (Also, Iran should not be first - I think they are meant to be Alphabetical - I wonder if someone put it there deliberately to influence readers: Iran = bad... Iran agrees with Occupy... therefore Occupy = bad.) 86.144.148.39 (talk) 22:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Since May Day

More stuff has happened since May Day, why isn't it covered? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theworldisbig (talkcontribs) 14:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Ongoing?

The template says the protests are still ongoing. However in the past four months there has been only one protest. We should either remove the word "ongoing" or replace it with something else. Pass a Method talk 21:20, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

That is original research. You should stick to references only when making claims. Where are your references for these claims?--Amadscientist (talk) 22:48, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
The onus is on you to prove that the protest is still ongoing', not me. YOU should provide a reference. Pass a Method talk 01:51, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Ongoing?

The movement has been going on since September 17th, and protest and meetings have been held everyday. As long as actions are planned in the future and are being active right now, it should remain it's ongoing status.

Walked into a Hornets Nest

...intentionally, of course. Need your guys' help. I have added sections to the Political Activity section of this article Koch family that is being hotly contested by conservative Tea-Partiers. Its creating more work than I could have ever imagined. I have to argue down repeated re-visitation of the same arguments by different users over and over and over again. And one user that acts like an attorney, where, if one argument doesn't work, well then, he'll just try another, and another, and another. I've asked for the article to be protected so this can all be discussed on the talk page, but all that did was get more attention focused on the article by what appear to be conservative "Citation BOTs". Help!!! LoL! --XB70Valyrie (talk) 01:16, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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