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List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft

Please note that the guidelines for formatting entries on this list have changed - see Talk:List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#Reconsidering_linking_in_this_article for the discussion and Misplaced Pages:List_of_accidents_and_incidents_on_commercial_aircraft/Guideline_for_inclusion_criteria_and_format#Entry_style for the guidelines. Since this article is a chronological index to articles on each incident, that link should only be the only link in each entry. Colonies Chris (talk) 15:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Aircrash articles

William, do you have access to The Times Online archive, which covers 1785-1985. I can access the achive through my library card free of charge. Alternative you could purchase a subscription. If you need any help expanding aircrash articles from this source let me know. Mjroots (talk) 08:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

No I don't have access to The Times Online but I rely on Google News archive alot. The crashes Tangier 1973, Havana 1989, Macedonia 1993, plus the Korean Air that went down at Tripoli in 1989, don't have many news article available on them. Macedonia because it initially had one survivor is a little better off than the others.

I'm going to write the articles eventually. What if I alert you afterwards and see if you add anymore to them?...William 20:50, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure, The Times now covers to 2006 BTW. Mjroots (talk) 21:17, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Survivor redirects

Just to let you know I have nominated a few more at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 April 11, only a few hundred to go! MilborneOne (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Notable people

FYI, the correct section name is "Notable people" in city articles. See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 01:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Fritz Brickell

Thanks for your fix on that. McGill1974 (talk) 00:24, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

The cats in the bag redirect

Hello. You did not write an edit summary here, so I can only assume we have differing interpretations of Misplaced Pages:Categorizing redirects#Subtopic categorization. I have re-re-added the cats, but wish to know if you had a reason that you figured was so obvious it didn't need an edit summary. Thanks! Ashanda (talk) 05:48, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello again! Thank you for providing an edit summary this time! However, could you please provide me with a link to the guideline you surely meant to refer to that supercedes the one I linked to above? Thanks! Ashanda (talk) 02:45, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

It is the practice of the Aviation editors to remove all category links out of redirects. If you question that policy, take it up at the aviation talk page....William 13:38, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Very good. If you would be so kind as to provide a link to the (I assume) WikiProject where this practice hails from, I would appreciate it. Also, since your argument relates to aviation, adding the non-aviation cats back in wouldn't be objectionable, would it?Ashanda (talk) 02:24, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello again. Could you please pay me the courtesey of a reply? Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project and discussion is part of that. Of course, I could have just edit warred and made my my changes without consulting you, but that would both be rude and contrary to policy. Ashanda (talk) 16:29, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

List of people from Fargo, North Dakota

Recently you removed the (See also|Category:People from Fargo, North Dakota) tag on the List of people from Fargo, North Dakota. I put this on all List of people from pages that I create. I'm just wondering your reason for removing it. Cheers Dkriegls (talk) 19:13, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

You're just linking to a page that is a duplicate of the list. Everyone on the category page should be on the list page. I've been going through list articles for other cities recently, Little Rock, Fayetteville AR, Youngstown OH, and they don't have a link to the category page on them at the top. BTW you have a link to the category page at the bottom of the article. That's fine....William 21:26, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

In an ideal world they would duplicate each other, but they don't. And sometimes purposefully so by involved editors. Lists and categories are complimentary of each other, Misplaced Pages:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. Both navigation methods can be used by readers with differing results and I like to encourage readers to be aware that there are two different navigation tools for them to use. Top of the page navigation emphasizes this point, as bottom of the list navigation templates tend to only get used by editors. I have created and or cleaned up over 40 of these List of people from pages, I have seen no consensus against informing readers of both navigation tools, but emphasizing it is my preference. After all, the categories emphasize the List of people from link at the top of the page. it seams only right that the List of people from page emphasize the category link. Dkriegls (talk) 02:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Compy90

I'm not very encouraged that we are going to be hearing from this editor about the problems you mentioned on AN/I. He's been editing since you made the report, and didn't go to respond. I'll give it another day or two to see if he responds, and then work on formulating a way forward. I don't think you can be expected to follow this user around policing their edits. --Laser brain (talk) 02:57, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Compy90 is now requesting unblock, and has responded to some of your ANI comments. Are you willing to have a discussion with him at User talk:Compy90#Notification? Since he is blocked he can't currently post anywhere else. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 04:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I am busy today and just took care of another dispute but I have non-wikipedia things to do now. Before I go to bed tonight Florida time, I will reply on Compy90's talk page....William 13:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

WP:Edit warring

I have no interest in edit warring with you. Particularly on a global scale over a trivial matter. The status quo existed long before your new found epiphany. Please stop your wholesale changes and follow your own advice and go here. We can hash this out there, no worreis. Happy editing and best wishes. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I have replied to your note here. Sorry you feel that way. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Swissair Flight 316

On 21 April 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Swissair Flight 316, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after a crash involving plutonium and diamonds, the pilots of Swissair Flight 316 were charged with manslaughter? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Swissair Flight 316.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 16:05, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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A kitten

	Not a catfight
	Vaudevillians the Bennett Sisters posing as if wrestling, ca. 1900s. William, Thanks for the kitten. We don't want a cat fight. And this is all metaphorical, so please don't say I've impugned our gender (I presume we are both male). 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:48, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Tinning

William, We both know that Find a Grave is not considered to be a WP:RS in Misplaced Pages. I don't happen to like that policy much, as it is as stupid (and somewhat justified, depending on the fallacy of composition) to say that all of Misplaced Pages is not reliable because it is a wiki and there are 'no' editorial controls. Depends on whose contributing and what they contribute. I also strongly think that Find a Grave has a good track record on getting the graves right, and that is primarily their business. In any event, this particular article has NO sources, and In the valley of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. But if you want to make it an external link, not a source, I understand. Have at it. Generally, I don't care about baseball and don't edit articles about it. Except for Eppa Rixey, as there is a personal connection. As to the Michigan articles, you happened to be editing in 'my neighborhood' (and I do mean that literally), and I have edited all those particular articles because I live there. See Sturgeon Point Light, as I live exactly a mile north of it. Come join us if you are in the neighborhood. In any event, I understand the stuff was old. But when you do a drive-by extirpation, and don't put in replacement, or don't just mark it with a CN, I think you might be using overkill. While the criticism has validity, there are other cures -- like putting in the right information, or checking to see if you are removing valid info. As to the rest of Alcona County, Michigan's townships, cities and villages, this source would solve a lot of the date problems and has current information on elected officials. Because some places (like Harrisville, Michigan, don't have websites, trying to find this stuff takes some digging. So we are clear, I'm not generally following you around, so please don't go there. We can work together. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:08, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

If you are redoing those type entries, it might be good to add (information as of May 2012) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:19, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Notes

1. "list of elected officials". Alcona County Review. Retrieved May 1, 2012.

Horse racing tags

Thanks As you pointed out, this edit might be a non-applicable banner. I have not tried to tag any horse-related pages since then (about two years ago) for precisely that reason: I'm simply too ignorant of horse racing. Thanks for the heads-up, but I've steered clear of that set of articles as they are outside of my competence. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:15, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Halloween III under featured article review

I have nominated Halloween III: Season of the Witch for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. George Ho (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Kiki Cuyler

William, Another Northern Michigan ballplayer, from Harrisville, Michigan and whose article is kind of sparse. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:52, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

The Godfather Part II

Hello WilliamJE,

Your edit on The Godfather Part II is correct. Thank you for spotting the error!

I have just been browsing your User page, and there are two UBXs that I would like to copy to mine, with your permission – "News" and "B & W colourisation".

Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Help yourself to any UBXs you like....William 15:58, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:05, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

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1966 Dan-Air Apache crash

It seems that you're the one who deleted this article -- correct me if I'm wrong; may I just ask, if this is true, why did you do it? What (in your opinion) was wrong with it? Though I agree that the main article to which it was linked -- the Dan-Air (ex-UK airline) article -- has lots of scope for improvement -- especially the citation overkill -- I feel it was wrong to delete the 1966 DA Apache crash article. Can it be restored? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.194.221.231 (talk) 17:48, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

AFD

The one AFD was b0rked because you forgot to put a second bracket around WP:GOLF — you had and it was messing up the format. If you want to nominate the rest, I would suggest using twinkle if you aren't already. Ten Pound Hammer • 18:50, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

If Twinkle is those little boxes at the top including xfd, I use that all the time for AFDs. How would I make the one discussion a yearly tournament article the discussion for all of the yearly articles? What do I say in the box that comes up after I click on XFD?...William 19:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Add {{la|Name of extra article you want AFD'd}} into the nomination box. Then go into each individual article and put {{Subst:afd|name of the first article}} on each other article in the series. Ten Pound Hammer • 19:11, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I didn't mean literally put "name of extra article you want AFD'd", silly. :-P Anyway, I think it's all fixed up now. I did the rest of the work. Ten Pound Hammer • 19:23, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

• • • • I screwed up. Its the wrong article. Can you just delete the AFD...William 19:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

• What do you mean "wrong article"? Ten Pound Hammer • 19:26, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

It was supposed to be 2010_Players_Championship. Note the similar title.

I'm not an admin so I can't delete it, but I did tag it for {{db-author}}. You might be better off nominating each separately to avoid confusion. Ten Pound Hammer • 19:30, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

misapplication of WP:CIRCULAR

I have reverted a large number of edits that purported to be justified by WP:CIRCULAR. WP:CIRCULAR refers to sourcing to Misplaced Pages and sources that mirror or use it, however, none of your edits actually involved sourcing to Misplaced Pages or sources that mirror or use it. Please review the policy before make more edits of this nature. Thanks. Dlabtot (talk) 01:34, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

It is circular. The source is wikipedia. In fact all the list is all the episodes and links to them. As WP:CIRCULAR states "Similarly, do not use sources that present material originating from Misplaced Pages to support that same material in Misplaced Pages, as this would create circular sourcing." A links to B that links right back to A. That is circular and that's exactly what it is episode links to list which links to article.

Ask yourself, what on that list is being used as a source of information for the episode article? Certainly not a source for the plot or episode number or cast. None of that information is there. It's not a source for information in the article.

By automatically undoing edits you also reverted back into articles original research, trivia, and fan ratings that have aren't supposed to be there. Check Cardassians, and The Storyteller for example. You're carelessness and shooting first ask questions later I find very uncivil. You wrote here, after you did your dirty work. Dirty work- Not reading all the edit summaries before undoing. It's obvious you didn't.

And I'll be reverting in the morning....William 01:56, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I hope you will refrain from edit-warring and defer your reverts till the conclusion of the discussion. BTW, I didn't 'automatically' undo any edits, and have no idea where you got that idea. I looked carefully at each and every of the edits I reverted. Your assertion to the contrary seems an assumption of bad faith and a borderline personal attack. Please refrain from such in the future - let's discuss the content of the articles only. The place to discuss edits on any particular article is on that article talk page.

To wit, I have chosen an example article and started an WP:RfC on the article Playing God: RfC: Is a reference to the DVD of a TV series an example of WP:CIRCULAR?.

I hope you will participate in the discussion there. Dlabtot (talk) 03:35, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages operates by WP:CONSENSUS. There are no editors empowered to make 'rulings'. Please att least try to familiarize yourself with our core policies before you lecture others. Dlabtot (talk) 23:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you really not understand that

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine DVD set, volume 2, disc 1, selection 3.

is not a reference to Misplaced Pages? It is a reference to a DVD published by Paramount. What is so difficult about this concept? Can you please explain the reason that you object to this reference? Dlabtot (talk) 00:03, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I would also again like to ask that you drop the confrontational attitude, refrain from accusing me of vandalism or other personal attacks, and attempt to collaborate with me to make a better encyclopedia. Please explain why you think a reference to the DVD of a tv show is an inappropriate reference in an article about that tv show. Dlabtot (talk) 00:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikiquette assistance

FYI, I have placed a notice on the Wikiquette assistance noticeboard. Dlabtot (talk) 00:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

June 2012

{{unblock|reason=No warning. Other editor was not punished and he immediately reverted as soon as this suspension. The administrator who also put this block in place has a COI because they are a party to the ongoing conversation and supporter of the other editor}}

This is insane. Guilty until proved innocent! The administrator who blocks me also a supporter of the editor that I'm in dispute. Of impartiality. Don't think I won't file some kind of complaint against EncMstr when this is over. Though from past experience, I expect it to be a waste of time. Where was 3RR then?...William 22:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

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