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| == Can we get some help at ]. == | |||
| I have recently come upon the article ] and found that the lede definition (the very first sentence) was written strictly from the POV of experimental physicists, essentially saying that time is a measurement. The lede said nothing about how ''time'' is normally experienced by humans (and other being) as, for lack of better words, our sequential progress in our existence. This is what is in the '''primary''' definitions of all three major English dictionaries. It's highly POV to require the lede definition of ''time'' to be defined only in terms of measurement. As if ''time'' has no meaning outside of measurement. Especially when it ignores the dictionary definition and especially when there exists a ] article. | |||
| :Primary definitions from 3 English language dictionaries: | |||
| : (obviously drawn from AH) | |||
| ::a. A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future. | |||
| ::b. An interval separating two points on this continuum; a duration: a long time since the last war; passed the time reading. | |||
| ::c. A number, as of years, days, or minutes, representing such an interval: ran the course in a time just under four minutes. | |||
| ::d. A similar number representing a specific point on this continuum, reckoned in hours and minutes: checked her watch and recorded the time, 6:17 a.m. | |||
| ::e. A system by which such intervals are measured or such numbers are reckoned: solar time. | |||
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| ::a : the measured or measurable period during which an action, process, or condition exists or continues : duration | |||
| ::b : a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of events which succeed one another from past through present to future | |||
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| ::a. A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future. | |||
| ::b. An interval separating two points on this continuum; a duration:a long time since the last war; passed the time reading. | |||
| ::c. A number, as of years, days, or minutes, representing such an interval:ran the course in a time just under four minutes. | |||
| ::d. A similar number representing a specific point on this continuum, reckoned in hours and minutes:checked her watch and recorded the time, 6:17 AM. | |||
| ::e. A system by which such intervals are measured or such numbers are reckoned:solar time. | |||
| :] (1971 Compact Edition) | |||
| ::1. A limited stretch or space of continued existence, as the interval between two successive events or acts, or the period through which an action, condition, or state continues. | |||
| Can we get some help there at ]? ] (]) 14:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Proposed Changes to Atheism Article
Hi, a series of proposed changes to the atheism article and have been outlined at Talk:Atheism#article_.2F_source_discrepancies, comments would be appreciated.
Peer review: Fyodor Dostoyevsky
hello,
I requested a peer review for Fyodor Dostoyevsky, see here. Any comments are appreciated. Regards.--GoPTN 15:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Person, Personhood, and Personal identity
A debate is going on over at Talk:Person right now, where two other editors are wanting to add substantial material on the subject of Personhood directly into the lede of Person, which is a summary-style article of Personhood and Personal identity. My objections on the redundancy of this seem to fall on deaf ears; they don't seem to acknowledge that Personal identity exists at all (ADDENDUM: One of the editors in question is now calling Personal identity "philobabble" and questioning whether we should even have an article on that subject at all), or for that matter to have even read Person beyond the lede, or to realize that we have an entire article on Personhood already where their contributions would be much more appropriate. I would greatly appreciate some experienced editors stopping by to give their opinions on the matter there. --Pfhorrest (talk) 09:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- "Philobabble"?! I do wish Derek Parfit had time to go and re-educate certain people, preferably with a cricket bat. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:33, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Proposed MOS for Religion
There is now a proposed general Manual of Style for Religion and other articles relating to ethoses or belief systems at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Religion/Manual of style. Any input would be welcome. I personally believe at least one of the reasons why many articles in this field have been as contentious as they have been is because of lack of such guidelines, and would very much welcome any input from others to help come up with some generally acceptable solutions to some of these problems. John Carter (talk) 22:01, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Religious language problem
Hi everyone. Religious language problem is currently a featured article candidate; listed here. If anyone could review the article, I'd be grateful. ItsZippy 14:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Category for discussion
There is a discussion for the category: Abstraction that could do with your input. Brad7777 (talk) 16:11, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Interesting graph
This article, Graphing the history of philosophy, has a diagram constructed using the "influenced by" section of philosopher infoboxes. Greg Bard (talk) 04:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Can we get some help at Time.
I have recently come upon the article Time and found that the lede definition (the very first sentence) was written strictly from the POV of experimental physicists, essentially saying that time is a measurement. The lede said nothing about how time is normally experienced by humans (and other being) as, for lack of better words, our sequential progress in our existence. This is what is in the primary definitions of all three major English dictionaries. It's highly POV to require the lede definition of time to be defined only in terms of measurement. As if time has no meaning outside of measurement. Especially when it ignores the dictionary definition and especially when there exists a Time in physics article.
- Primary definitions from 3 English language dictionaries:
- thefreedictionary.com (obviously drawn from AH)
- a. A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future.
- b. An interval separating two points on this continuum; a duration: a long time since the last war; passed the time reading.
- c. A number, as of years, days, or minutes, representing such an interval: ran the course in a time just under four minutes.
- d. A similar number representing a specific point on this continuum, reckoned in hours and minutes: checked her watch and recorded the time, 6:17 a.m.
- e. A system by which such intervals are measured or such numbers are reckoned: solar time.
- Merriam-Webster Dictionary
- a : the measured or measurable period during which an action, process, or condition exists or continues : duration
- b : a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of events which succeed one another from past through present to future
- American Heritage Dictionary
- a. A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future.
- b. An interval separating two points on this continuum; a duration:a long time since the last war; passed the time reading.
- c. A number, as of years, days, or minutes, representing such an interval:ran the course in a time just under four minutes.
- d. A similar number representing a specific point on this continuum, reckoned in hours and minutes:checked her watch and recorded the time, 6:17 AM.
- e. A system by which such intervals are measured or such numbers are reckoned:solar time.
- Oxford English Dictionary (1971 Compact Edition)
- 1. A limited stretch or space of continued existence, as the interval between two successive events or acts, or the period through which an action, condition, or state continues.
Can we get some help there at Time? 71.169.176.253 (talk) 14:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
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