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Wiki-Conference New York

It's for everyone! :)--Pharos (talk) 00:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ramallah lynching

Hi ShamWow! In order to move an article, you need to click the Move link at the top of the page and make sure that the box "also move talk page" is checked. However, there's no need to do that now, because 2000 Ramallah lynching is a proper title for this article.

About the assessment: You have done very good work! I am assessing it as C-class for now on the basis of comprehensiveness—there is a whole lot of information about aftermath and reactions, but very little about the actual incident, how it happenned, possible accounts, etc. There is also no information on Israeli investigations into the incident. More text in the reactions section would also be great.

After these issues are addressed, the article will easily be B-class, and you could nominate it for GA as well. Cheers, Ynhockey 16:18, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi again! There is no simple way to merge the talk pages; technically I could merge their histories, but AFAIK this is not done for talk pages without a very good reason. Because there are no recent discussions on the Talk:Lynching in Ramallah page, it can just be redirected to the other one, with an explanatory note at the top of the current talk page (see this section, clause 8). Cheers, Ynhockey 16:40, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Assessment

Hi ShamWow! The article you mentioned does not fall under the scope of WikiProject Israel. I have also been a strong support from removing the article Yasser Arafat from the project, but there are not enough regular editors to debate this with. I hope it can be done someday. We should be focusing more on articles that don't deal with I–P. —Ynhockey 18:16, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is a known problem that WP Palestine tags are everywhere. We've had discussions about it, but ultimately it's their choice which articles they tag. I always thought that WP Palestine was very political with difficult to understand goals, but so far they have produced at least as many 'native' GAs and FAs as we have, so despite their disruptive tagging they clearly take their project seriously, so I'm not sure we should get into this dispute again and instead focus on actual Israel-related articles. There is absolutely no reason for us to increase the scope of our WikiProject, as we currently have over 3,000 stubs (some of which are top- and high-importance), and hundreds of very bad articles that need work. I only wish the 64 WP Israel participants focused on these tasks more and on I–P disputes and the "Pro-Israel Lobby in the United States" less. —Ynhockey 14:35, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi again! The Qassam article is start-class. I personally would not like to make it part of our WikiProject, but I am sure there are many users who feel differently. If you strongly believe that it should be, please feel free to add the template and a start-class rating. —Ynhockey 19:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

AFD

Would you take a look at this terrorism-related AFD. Thank you.Historicist (talk) 00:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Patrick Boyd

I already created Raleigh jihad group, although I am certainly willing to reconsider the name. I have not done as much editing lately as I might, but I certainly agree with you that that articles on this topic need work.Historicist (talk) 11:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

• Also, it is a good idea to check this page : from time to time. Editors who work to expunge articles on terrorism from Misplaced Pages certainly do.Historicist (talk) 11:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

• In other terrorism plots, a page exists for the plot, in addition to separate pages for the more notable individuals involved. Certainly the page on the jihad group needs to be expanded.Historicist (talk) 16:24, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Referencing.

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RE:Jund Ansar Allah

I usually don't edit these kinds of articles specifically, but I still think it's a start. There should probably be some inclusion of the Hamas reaction (what the politicians said), the reaction from Jund Ansar Allah at the result of the Hamas operation, and if possible the position of the PA in the West Bank. If this is added, I wouldn't oppose upgrading the article to C-class since it's a relatively new group only known for two things: failed attack on Israel and failed declaration of an Islamic emirate. Nice job writing the article Sham, Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 16:27, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Sheikh Tamimi

See Talk:Sheikh Taissir Tamimi with concerns related to the lead. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:14, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

September 2009

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Something ought to be done about nableezy's aggressive intimidation tactics and false accusations. Ought he to be reported regularly to administrators?Historicist (talk) 19:34, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Telling somebody they are edit warring after 3 quick reverts is not a false accusation. nableezy - 19:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Also ShamWow, this message appears to be entirely inconsistent with what we are meant to be doing here. Do you understand that this is not a battleground or does someone need to explain that to you so that you desist from encouraging users to fight ? Sean.hoyland - talk 20:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

André Aciman.

Thanks for the note about the Aciman prod. Please see my reply at Talk:André Aciman#Proposed deletion. -- Jeandré (talk), 2009-09-15t11:09z

Your input at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/André Aciman please. -- Jeandré (talk), 2009-09-16t22:29z

edit warring

on International al-Quds Day. Please stop. nableezy - 02:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

WP:DTTR, further silliness will be reverted sight unseen. nableezy - 03:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

new Terrorism

• 2009 U.S. Al Qaeda group and Najibullah Zazi - but I haven't much time to work on them just now.Historicist (talk) 00:42, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Could you comment here

--WIMYV? (talk) 20:56, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I've left a proposal at Talk:International al-Quds Day#Suggestion for an editing restriction on the article; if you have a moment, your input would be appreciated. rʨanaɢ /_contribs 22:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Qassam rocket

Hi, I'm requesting input the most active editors in this article, yourself included, regarding an edit dispute. I added the infobox template:Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel (which I recently created) to relevant articles, including this one. User:RomaC has removed the infobox, arguing that the image on it is emotive. Your input would be welcome and could prevent the situation from deteriorating into an edit war. Thanks, and good day, Jalapenos do exist (talk) 12:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Right to exist

You should not remove properly referenced valid material on a stylistic pretext. I hope you are not pushing a POV.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

The Thirteenth Tribe

Your goal is to convince the reader that Israel Bartal is an idiot or what? He makes a real critic to Sand, why do you want quote only the most annoying bons mots!?. All in all, since this is about Sand on not about Koestler or his book, I suppress the whole. I'd wish to move it to Schlomo Sand, but it is already done : the Bartal's critics has been clearly exposed by some other user, which do not red onl annoying excerpts... Levochik (talk) 13:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Username concern

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Is this username issue a serious concern? I like my username and there is no attempt to speak on behalf of the ShamWow product. I hope this can be dealt with in another manner.ShamWow (talk) 21:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

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Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:09, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey, you may want to tone it down a bit. The use of phrases like "idiot editors" could be interpreted by some as a personal attack and you should take care to assume good faith, even among editors you disagree with. Just take care to use a collegial tone at all times, even when people do things you do not agree with. --Jayron32 06:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm assuming your note is aimed at ShamWow, not me. :-) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:14, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

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No way does a consensus hammered through by cheats stand.

No way does a consensus hammered through by cheats stand. The CIA report on the actual effect of partitioning Palestine is highly notable. 92.27.122.197 (talk) 14:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit warring

If you continue reverting on United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine you will be reported to the edit warring noticeboard. Please do not continue edit warring. nableezy - 16:05, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

You should report that IP for his edit warring as well as uncivil edit summaries. Unfortunately, it's unsurprising that some people are so concerned with what you do and not the blatant incivility (and possible racism) by the person who's edits you're reverting, that they try to get you to stop editing the article while not even bothering with the other guy. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 17:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Rudolf Kastner. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing <Berkshires (talk) 01:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)>

Someone who has reverted an article 7 times in 24 hours really shouldn't be giving out 3RR warnings. Plot Spoiler (talk) 02:03, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Intra-Palestinian violence

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Thanks for stalking Nableezy!Plot Spoiler (talk) 17:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

uggh, Battle of Gaza is in my watchlist, you can't just recreate things that have gone through a deletion discussion. If you want it recreated you need to go to WP:DRV. nableezy - 17:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Capitalization of "g" in "Iranian Government"

Hey Plot Spoiler,

Thank you for your message regarding the above matter. When used in a general sense, the term "government" is written with a lower case "g" (e.g. "the first responsibility of any government is the security of its citizens"). However, when used to refer to a specific government, an upper case "g" is used (e.g. "the Government of Iran"). This is because it is referencing an official body/entity/title, and is analogous to the use of an upper case "p" when referring to "the President of the United States". If used in a general sense (e.g. "the U.N. General Assembly meeting was attended by presidents, and heads of government from across the world"), a lower case "p" would be used.

Thanks. CrimeCentral (talk) 04:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Haha, no need to apologize. I share your passion for pointless technicalities that few others would notice - it's one of the dubious wonders of the English language!. CrimeCentral (talk) 04:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Michael Oren

Hello there! I am not going to lose sleep over this, but what groups an ambassador does and does not meet does not belong here. He meets different groups on the daily basis, and often comments on this to the media. Regarding J Street, these remarks are already obsolete, as I've read more recently that Oren approved a meeting by one of his officials with J Street, saying they have moved towards mainstream... Singling out one particular group and one particular (non-)meeting does not make any sense.

Heccling of Israeli speakers on campuses occurs every week if not every day. Not even worth a back page of a paper (maybe local paper ok), let alone encyclopedia. Have you read WP:recentism?

It's not like I care either way but this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a news archive. If we want to achieve some order, we should strive against chaos. It is depressing that while I make one constructive edit, 1000 edits are made that increase chaos and entropy. Cheeers from DownUnder. BorisG (talk) 09:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Joseph Massad

Please stop revert-warring over the lede and join the discussion at Talk:Joseph Massad instead. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 04:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is 3RR and Insertion of inappropriate POV material in lede of BLP Joseph Massad. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 04:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I really would appreciate your thoughts at Talk:Joseph Massad. Currently, there are two editors who are strongly against any mention of the Columbia controversy in the lede, and I'm the only editor arguing for its inclusion. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 18:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

WINEP

Dear Plot Spoiler, I have outlined some concerns to Talk:Washington Institute for Near East Policy (last section), including in regards to the lead. Note that George has added the same sentence to two parts of the article. This looks like WP:tendentious editing. --Shamir1 (talk) 03:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Rfc - Blood Libel / Israel's Brutality

You may be interested in commenting on this. NickCT (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism Claim

I don't see how what I did is vandalism. I added to Ariel Sharon's description that he is a war criminal and cited a source. If you feel my source isn't legitimate then I can pick from thousands of others that say the same thing. Just because you don't agree with the fact that this degenerate murderer of thousands isn't a war criminal does not make my edit vandalism. In fact majority of people in this world would most likely support my view point, which is not opinion, it is fact. If you want the validity of my edit and source called into question because you don't want the truth exposed fine, but don't attack me by calling what I did vandalism. Misplaced Pages is not supposed to be about suppressing the truth, but rather providing it to users. I feel you may be the one who needs to read the welcome page and not me. DaBiGg3TiTaLiaNo (talk) 01:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi there

I saw you encountered some problems with the editing pattern of vexorg on Martin Gilbert. I am not sure, if you are aware about this discussion. Please feel free to comment. Best wishes,--Mbz1 (talk) 03:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Your removal of properly sourced information at Martin Gilbert

Earlier I noticed you had removed some properly sourced information about Martin Gilbert. I restored it and then took the discussion to the . I have just noticed you have since reverted again and have ignored my request to discuss this at the talk page. Frankly your rationale for reverting, "This doesn't define who he is -- say something about his works." , does not make any sense as the information you removed was a good part of defining this person. Please discuss this at the articles talk page. I will be restoring this information after a reasonable period of time in order to allow for further discussion. Vexorg (talk) 04:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

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Dalal Mughrabi

I believe you have broken the 3RR rule on this page, where you are edit-warring against 3 other users. Please rv your last edits, or you will risk being reported for 3RR violation. Thank you. Huldra (talk) 21:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Masada2000 on the AfD

Hi, The article seem to heavily use secondary sources, and my problem is not with that-but with that it make WP:SYN out of those. It seem like rewriting using more sources that overview it is the best solution, rather then deletions. However, if no one intending to rewrite this article -then I keep my vote on delete.--Gilisa (talk) 07:55, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for taking that to AE. You said it just RIGHT. Please make sure you add the diffs that shows that you notified the editors. I will be weighing in a bit later. Stellarkid (talk) 16:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement warning: discretionary sanctions (WP:ARBPIA)

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This warning relates to this exchange. If you continue to allege that others engage in "hate speech" or make similar serious accusations without at the same time providing very convincing diffs to substantiate these allegations, you may be made subject to significant sanctions.  Sandstein  20:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Re In Agreement

", if you just looked at the AE page, you'd think Misplaced Pages only dealt with I/P"

Yeah. I'd agree with this. However, I would point out that this seems to occur b/c members on both sides of this debate seem to be willing to arbitrate at the drop of a hat. I personally avoid arbitration unless there is dramatic and clear cut behavior that warrants it. Though I don't like battlegrounding or incivility, I think arbitrating against them often times does more to inflame than prevent the behavior.

Perhaps the solution is for editors closer to center of this issue to form a sort of "moderate coalition" who's goal is to work to exclude extremists on both sides of the debate. So often on WP and in real life, extremists are allowed to rule debates b/c moderates on the same "side" as the extremists are afraid to speak against them for fear of crippling their argument's chance at success. NickCT (talk) 11:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

April 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 1950–1951 Baghdad bombings‎. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. NativeForeigner /_Contribs/ 04:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Request for mediation not accepted

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Personal attack

It's hard to see this edit summary as anything but a personal attack. I assume you are familiar with WP:AGF and WP:Civil. Whatever we may think of this person, our policies and guidelines still apply. Dougweller (talk) 10:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

You're right, no excuse. Callous edit on my part. Apologies. Plot Spoiler (talk) 02:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

question

Hi. I was wondering why you removed Category:Jewish American sportspeople from the Youkilis article. Tx.--Epeefleche (talk) 19:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if you saw my response to you on my talk page.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:19, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks. Cheers.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:22, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration Enforcement - an apology

Embarrassingly, I've realised that I confused you with somebody else, so I owe you an apology. In my defence I'd like to plead mental confusion due to being more than old enough to remember when the album which included Brick House was released (though, I was a bit of a punk at the time so would'nt have been capable of appreciating The Commodores).     ←   ZScarpia   00:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

explain your actions

Please explain the following edit you made to my talk page:

"This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits."

Final warning? How many warnings do I get? Where are the previous warnings?

"If you vandalize Misplaced Pages again, as you did at 2009 Aftonbladet Israel controversy, you may be blocked from editing without further notice."

I'd like you to explain this. How did I "vandalize" wikipedia in the "2009 Aftonbladet Israel controversy"? Who are you to start threatening me just because you don't want people to know Israel harvests organs illegally?

"Please stop your vandalistic, biased edits that are not supported by the sources given."

The sources I gave did support my claim that an international journalist found a box of human corneas harvested in Haiti, that the Prime Minister of Haiti has claimed that organ harvesting and child trafficking is taking place in Haiti and that "T. West" has linked these facts together into the conclusion that Israel is harvesting organs in Haiti. It's a perfectly reasonable conclusion, given that Israel was the first and best hospital immediately on scene and the IDF has a history of harvesting organs without permission illegally.

"Misplaced Pages is not a place to promote fringe, malicious claims."

There's nothing "fringe" about Israel harvesting organs, they admit it and this is in the public domain, you are insane or ignorant or both.

"Next them this happens, you will be reported to an administrator. Plot Spoiler (talk) 00:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)"

Who are you to be threatening me? Get lost. I'll make whatever edits I want to wikipedia, as I always have, and there's not a god damned thing you or anyone else can do about it. Don't make me prove it to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyletroyyy (talk • contribs) 22:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Request for MEDCAB Mediation

The request for mediation concerning Israel and the apartheid analogy, to which you were are a party, has been accepted. Please watchlist the case page (which is where the mediation will take place). If you have any questions, please contact me.

Ronk01 (talk) 03:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Iron Dome

Iron Dome

What are you talking about? I didn't delete the criticism section of the Iron Dome article. I moved it to the bottom of the article because it made no sense being in the middle. I also added meaningful content to the deployment section, which you have now reverted. I am reverting the article back - and please, in future, before making accusations and jumping to revert articles, take the time to actually read them. Thank you. --Sstr (talk) 00:48, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Gaza flotilla raid

I'll add a second article as reference. thanksCcson (talk) 04:25, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

where on talk page should I disucss SS Exodus? what original research are you refering to? what part of the section is not neutral?Ccson (talk) 04:46, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

Plot Spoiler (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Err, I thought I only did 1 revert for any given issue. Please tell me if I'm mistaken. Much appreciated.

Decline reason:

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "any given issue", but on the specific page in question, Gaza flotilla raid, you reverted a couple of times between 0400 and 0500 of 3 June. As I understand it, the single-reversion restriction applies to the page as a whole, not to any individual section of it. You seem like a useful and well-meaning contributor; perhaps just sit out the remaining couple of hours and look at the links at the top of the \editing page to find out exactly what is meant by the arbitration enforcement decision. In general, when a page is obviously about a very contentious issue, it's prudent to proceed very, very slowly and be absolutely sure you understand the underlying policies. Accounting4Taste:talk 14:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

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• Accounting: I don't think that's correct at all. I would suggest you seek input from a sysop who can confirm or deny that I am wrong. I don't at all believe that unrelated reverts are lumped together for the purpose of that rule -- the same as they certainly are not for purposes of the 3RR rule.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
  • The three-revert rule covers any reverts (in excess of three), whether they are complete reverts to a previous version or are partial reverts of content (eg, user A edits two paragraphs, user B undoes one of those changes). The three-revert rule is not like threefold repetition in chess - it applies to any reverts, even if they are to completely different sections of the article. Obviously, we take into account whether the intention was to edit war or not - technically, if you delete a sentence from an article it's a partial revert because obviously someone had to put that sentence in there at some point in time, so we would not normally block someone who is not intentionally reverting. --B (talk) 05:59, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
    • • I often work through long articles that are heavily edited on a section-by-section basis. If it has 10 sections, and I make two reverts, one in section a, and another in section f, I don't believe that is a 1RR violation.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
        • Well, again, admins are human beings and would evaluate whether or not the intention was to edit war. Also, 1RR is a rare exception - the overwhelming majority of articles are not subject to 1RR. --B (talk) 06:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, B, I agree with you. My feeling is that, if an article is plastered with notifications about how highly contentious it is, including one for an arbitration decision that restricts the article to 1RR, any editor who chooses to edit that article has been amply warned that his/her actions will be carefully scrutinized and concomitantly has a higher standard of caution to meet than that applied to 3RR. I would not disturb a 12-hour block in this situation unless there was clear-cut evidence that the blocking administrator had acted in bad faith -- which, of course, there was not here. 12 hours is the Misplaced Pages equivalent of a few deep breaths, not a lifetime in prison. Had I not felt that I understood the policy thoroughly, I certainly would have asked another administrator for advice or simply declined to act. Accounting4Taste:talk 14:05, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not sure that B and I disagree. It seems that matters may be fuzzy, and sysops expected to review the edits to get a sense as to the nature of them. I just actually made edits myself to the IHH article. Because it is heavily edited, I did it on a section by section basis. More than one edit may have contained a partial revert, but I was by no means edit warring. The restriction to 1RR is as Accounting suggests more draconian--but I believe that the draconian nature is in the number of reverts allowed, not in the interpretation of what constitutes a revert. Just my thoughts.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:42, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Back to back edits (with no other editors editing in between) are considered a single revert for purposes of 3RR. Also, the IHH article is not subject to 1RR anyway, so it's not a problem. Obviously there's some level of inconsistency here in the rule and that's why we have human admins, not admin bots. If it is a heavily edited article, you might make four unrelated partial reverts but clearly are not edit warring (ie, you're working on completely different sections of the article from what anyone else is doing), but because there are other editors making intervening edits (to completely different sections of the article), it's a technical violation of 3RR. In such a case, there is obviously no intention to edit war and we're not likely to make a block. --B (talk) 19:10, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010

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{{unblock|Understood. I will stop reverting and go to talk page. If I encounter further issues I will seek other means of arbitration. Appreciated. Plot Spoiler (talk) 13:23, 7 June 2010 (UTC)}}

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Do keep a few things in mind:

1. If a user reverts you, try to discuss it first. Either create a section on the article talk page or the users talk page and notify them.
2. Give them a reasonable time to respond (A day, or perhaps two. Just check their contributions to see if they are around).
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4. If you can agree on something, good job! If you cannot agree, take it to WP:3O or WP:RFC. And keep in mind that reverting each other blindly will lead to nothing but friction and bad blood between editors.

That is my advice for now. Happy editing! Excirial 13:42, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Octavia Nasr

I seem to have reverted you on the wrong grounds, but I hope you will accept this nonetheless. You removed the paragraph mentioning Helen Thomas being in a similar situation a month ago, but I didn't read your edit summary thoroughly so I thought you were asserting that the article would become like an opinion piece with this text, not that you requested a better source than an opinion piece. Anyway, I didn't really intend (I added this text originally) for the references to attest to more than the existence of both cases, not to establish a connection between them, as the similarities and both appearing relatively within the same time frame makes the connection so very obvious. I'm sure others in regular news articles have pointed out this, but when I reverted you now I hadn't sought to provide more sources on this. I just found a better source, and I'll insert that now. __meco (talk) 16:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Mediation: Israel and the Apartheid analogy

Just an FYI, we are running a straw poll on title choices on the mediation page - see Misplaced Pages:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2010-04-14/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy#Straw_poll_on_titles. If you pitch in a vote or three, we can move this along. --Ludwigs2 06:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder: you have not yet voted on the straw poll. If you don't, your voice will not be heard on this issue, which would be sad. . --Ludwigs2 06:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Discussion on closure of Israel and Aparthied mediation

Current consensus seems to be to move the article to Israel and Apartheid with an appropriate disambiguation line to prevent any misinterpretations. Please weigh in over the next few days. --Ludwigs2 17:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

CNI

CNI is a blog? RomaC 18:02, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Nikki Yanofsky

Please see the Discussion page for the BLP article about Nikki Yanofsky before re-adding the Canadian people of Jewish descent category. While I recognize that being of Jewish descent does not necessarily imply that the person is of the Jewish religion, you failed to cite any sources regarding your claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFrozenFire (talk • contribs) 14:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sharif El-Gamal

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— Rlevse • Talk • 12:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Nasrin Sotoudeh

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-- Cirt (talk) 12:03, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Walid Husayin for deletion

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AfDs

Hi. As you just participated in discussions on a closely related topic (also a current AfD re a Jewish list), which may raise some of the same issues, I'm simply mentioning that the following are currently ongoing: AfDs re lists of Jewish Nobel laureates, entertainers, inventors, actors, cartoonists, and heavy metal musicians. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:56, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

リッダ闘争

That last edit did not change the content, and simply made up for POV bias in article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.50.104 (talk) 04:49, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

December 2010

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You're right and I've apologized. Plot Spoiler (talk) 05:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. That was gracious of you.--Chaser (talk) 05:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Walid Husayin

On 11 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Walid Husayin, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Palestinian Authority has detained Palestinian blogger Walid Husayin for allegedly blaspheming against Islam on Facebook and in his personal blog? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Asghar Bukhari

I updated the page, included reference etc... introduced neutral POV, etc.... but was accused on "POV whitewashing". Could you please discuss this before reverting? Asifkhanj (talk) 16:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

2011 Alexandria bombing

Thank you for restoring the removed material on 2011 Alexandria bombing. You saveed me quite some work :-) --Khips (talk) 02:21, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Please take another look at the article. User:Lihaas has reverted everything again. --Khips (talk) 03:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

also take a look at the talk page. older content was removed (as well as osources), for which the intermediate edits may have caused confusion (see als the ref "aljaz")(Lihaas (talk) 03:46, 2 January 2011 (UTC)).

Why

Why doesn't the source meet the standards? --Coptic101 (talk) 23:01, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

ok, let me know if the source I just added is ok, and also the formatting. --Coptic101 (talk) 23:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Help with English?

Hi Plot, if you have a time, could you please help me to fix my English in my new article? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

BTW I'd like to clarify that I asked for your help because I saw you were editing the shark attack article. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

リッダ闘争の記事に関しての荒らし

貴様の反動主義的、ユダヤ的、人種差別的な名誉毀損的行為を僕は許さない！ ＰＯＶ荒らしたる行為に終止符を打て！

AfD

Please see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Andrew G. Bostom since you contributed to the article. Jaque Hammer (talk) 11:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Some help?

Hi, if you have a time could you please help me in copy editing of my new article new article? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:47, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Bahrami

(1) You're on verge of violating WP:3RR (2) Her past criminal record can not be swept under the carpet and is very relevant to her case and conviction, and therefore belongs in the lead. If you disagree, you're welcome to file a Request for Comment for broader community input. Kurdo777 (talk) 17:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Executions in Iran, 2011

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DYK for Zahra Bahrami

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Thank you for your new article Victuallers (talk) 12:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Logan

Please stop edit waring that disputed content into that BLP without clear consensus on the talkpage or on the thread at the WP:BLPN - Off2riorob (talk) 19:52, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Island of Peace massacre

On 27 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Island of Peace massacre, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Jordan's new justice minister, Hussein Mjali, called for the early release of Ahmed Daqamseh, the attacker responsible for killing seven Israeli schoolgirls in the 1997 Island of Peace massacre? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Zenga Zenga

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There's still a minor point to fix. No biggie though. Let me know once you've fixed it and I'll approve. Nomader 01:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

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David Jemmali

You added categories that David Jemmali is Jewish despite him denying this in interviews. It has been reversed. -NYC2TLV (talk) 04:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Zenga Zenga

On 6 March 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Zenga Zenga, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Libyan opposition has embraced "Zenga Zenga", an Israeli-created auto-tuned song and viral YouTube video that parodies Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi (pictured)? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 02:02, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Zenga Zenga

Hi,

While I agree with the fact that it does not respect Misplaced Pages's standards in terms of content sourcing, I decided to put that comment as a mean of encouragement to diffuse the zenga zenga video for visotors of the page as the libyan people need all he help that the free world can provide them with. I sincerly hope it did not shock you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsibo047 (talk • contribs) 22:16, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Invitation

Nice work at Victoria Affair. I'd want you on board with this, if you have the time. Feel free to make any changes you like: User:Biosketch/Iranian arms trafficking‎.—Biosketch (talk) 19:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

2011 Jerusalem bus bombing refs

jpost1 and jpostfatalities are names for different links. you seem to have merged it by msitake at one point and then removed eventually. see the end of the links.

www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=213465 and www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=213442Lihaas (talk) 18:15, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Miral: your questionable edits....

Not quite sure how it is that you are justiying your undos at the Miral page, but I am finding your edit exceedingly frustrating as it seems that you attempting to hide certain facts about the film as well as portray only specific elements of the film. Also, I am beginning to sense the beginning of an edit war as well as a 3rr vio, just want to warn you and see if we discuss the issue on the Miral talk page. Thanks. GoetheFromm (talk) 21:09, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Possible 3RR violation

Just want to let you know that within 24 hours, you've reverted my material over three times on separate occasions on the page Miral. This may violate 3RR. WP:EW

FYI:

"An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of the 3RR rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation."

GoetheFromm (talk) 16:01, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Was going to report it, but I think it best to warn and discuss:

FYI, here is the entirety of your 3RR violation as I see it:

• 1st revert:

• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:
• 5th revert:

Best, GoetheFromm (talk) 16:32, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

On second thought, I see that you've been through this before, I reported you

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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WP:ARBPIA restrictions

Hi Plot Spoiler, perhaps you did not realize it, but the Victoria Affair article, like all articles that are part of the Israel-Palestine conflict, is subject to editing restrictions of one revert per editor per article per 24 hour period. Your recent editing violated this restriction. In fairness, the notice about this was not placed on the talk page until today, so you may have violated this restriction in good faith. In the future, be mindful of this restriction. Tzu Zha Men (talk) 19:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Addition of Palestinians to List of indigenous peoples

Plot Spoiler, before you again revert my addition of Palestinians to the List of indigenous peoples please explain on the talk page what criteria you feel Palestinans do not meet for inclusion. I believe the WP:ARBPIA restrictions apply here. DieWeisseRose (talk) 04:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Your recent comment

Plot Spoiler, I notice above that you were warned under WP:ARBPIA on 6 April, 2010. In the light of that, please consider removing a message you left today on the talk page of a user who is under an I/P topic ban, and is unable to respond. I perceive that your message contains personal attacks, such as the word 'psychotic.' Those who regularly participate in the I/P area need to speak carefully about editors on the other side of a dispute. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 04:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Camp Ashraf massacre

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The DYK project (nominate) 17:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to the club!

Please accept my condolences :-). Good luck and happy editing.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of 2011 Manhattan terrorism plot for deletion

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I responded to your hook at T:DYK--I think it's almost good to go, just one small concern. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 21:59, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Plot I noticed you were mentioned in the same AE I was. I admire the comment you made "if they make Israel look good, so be it (which you can't seem to accept as something that happens sometimes) and if they make Israel bad, so be it as well. " Please take a look at this discussion concerning this article. Quite telling, isn't it? Broccolo (talk) 19:50, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Socks of Passionless

Hi Plot, in case you have not seen it yet Cellarfloor is a sock of Passionless and his POVs here and in all other places could be safely reverted. Broccolo (talk) 20:13, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Plot Spoiler (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Zenga Zenga

As the creator of Zenga Zenga, this might interest you. Also, please accept my apology for how I behaved at Miral a few months ago. At the time I took WP:AGF much more seriously than I do now, because I thought it was truly a fundamental principle on Misplaced Pages. An Admin has since informed me that that's not the case in practice. Had I simply reverted the other contributor, a lot of time and aggravation could have been saved for everyone involved. I was still new and naive then.—Biosketch (talk) 08:30, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

RM alert

The move request at Talk:Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority was closed, so we're now taking suggestions for an alternative. As you were involved in the previous discussion, I'd be grateful if you could contribute to the new one. Please lodge your support for a proposal, or make one of your own. Night w2 (talk) 04:22, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 2011 Manhattan terrorism plot

On 29 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 2011 Manhattan terrorism plot, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in the 2011 Manhattan terrorism plot, two Arab-Americans allegedly planned to attack a synagogue, and one of the suspects expressed interest in blowing up the Empire State Building? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Mexican pointy boots

On 30 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mexican pointy boots, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mexican pointy boots, made by elongating the toes of normal boots by as much as 5 feet (1.5 m), are popular among Mexican men in parts of Mexico and the U.S.? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 05:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Abdel Bari Atwan

Hey there, you have removed my last edit in the Abdel Bari Atwan article because Youtube is not a reliable source. However, it says here http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_source_examples#Are_IRC.2C_MySpace.2C_and_YouTube_reliable_sources.3F that "video clips published on YouTube may be acceptable as primary sources if their authenticity can be confirmed, or as a secondary source if they can be traced to a reliable publisher".

Both is the case for the Youtube link I used. The incident was also widely documented through Twitter, in case that helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayyou (talk • contribs) 07:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

If you don't reply to this soon I will interpret your silence as acquiescence and revert the changes you made. Please respond. contribs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayyou (talk • contribs) 14:25, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		Thank you for offering to help, and copy editing the article. Mbz1 (talk) 22:06, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

What do you think?

Hi Plot,

What do you think about including this source? If the article is merged to Mein Kampf in Muslim countries or something like this, then this source and many others could be added to the article as well. Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Baltimore Rock Opera Society

On 27 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Baltimore Rock Opera Society, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Gründlehämmer was the first theatrical production of the Baltimore Rock Opera Society, an all-volunteer rock opera company formed in 2009? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd 21:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC) 05:26, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

"It makes up a big part of our success"

Hey PS, please take a look at the discussion I opened here. Thanks. ← George 22:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yossele the Holy Miser

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Passed, thank you for this interesting Poland-related article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

Hello and welcome Plot Spoiler! Thank you for your contributions related to Poland. You may be interested in visiting Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland, joining the project, joining our discussions and sharing your creations with our community.

--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

The main suggestion I'd have is to note that WP:POLAND is really quite active, so questions posted there are likely to be answered :) Also, we have a number of tools you may find useful listed on our project main page. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 03:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Yossele the Holy Miser

On 9 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Yossele the Holy Miser, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Jewish folktale of Yossele the Holy Miser (tombstone pictured) speaks to one of the highest forms of charity in the Jewish tradition – giving anonymously? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yossele the Holy Miser.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

File:Hanging of Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni.jpg listed for deletion

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WP:OR

Please read wp:or and wp:v, these will tell you that your editing is original material, ie, that you are putting together two ideas to create the idea that Tzviki Bar-Hai is a liar. Public awareness (talk) 00:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

• Public awareness has now been blocked indefinitely as a sock of the banned editor User:Passionless.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:40, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

October 2011

Your recent edits seem to have the appearance of edit warring after a review of the reverts you have made on August 2010 West Bank shooting attack. Users are expected to collaborate and discuss with others and avoid editing disruptively.

Please be particularly aware, the three-revert rule states that:

1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
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Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard

I took Fastily's advice, and brought this to DRN. Public awareness (talk) 05:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

• Public awareness has now been blocked indefinitely as a sock of the banned editor User:Passionless.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:40, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration Enforcement discussion

There is a discussion at Arbitration Enforcement here that concerns you. — TransporterMan (TALK) 19:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

advice

you should self-revert your last revert at August 2010 West Bank shooting attack.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 23:34, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Youcef Nadarkhani

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Youcef_Nadarkhani#Edit_war_and_page_protection --BoogaLouie (talk) 20:44, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

FYI

User:Public awareness was blocked as a sock so he may be reverted without penalty though I think it would be good to use talk page before.--Shrike (talk) 19:15, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

RE: DYK

I would suggest checking with Nikkimara, sorry. I get what Cunard was saying, so I've taken the liberty to do some more rewording. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:30, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

1RR at Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange

You. broke. it.

Please self-revert or I will report it. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 02:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Wafa al Bass

It seemed to me that many of the incidents in which the released prisoners were involved ought to have articles. I put one up on Wafa al Bass and am now told that it is not notable.ZuccottiPark (talk) 17:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC) Thank you.ZuccottiPark (talk) 18:13, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Julio Pino for deletion

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Emergency Committee for Israel

The article has a notice of the discretionary sanctions on the Talk page and the standard 1RR edit notice (above the edit box). If somebody violates 1RR, report them to WP:ANEW or WP:AE. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 02:33, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

About those sources: I was planning to bring the matter to WP:RSN for more opinions, but I haven't had a chance yet. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 02:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

False Accusation of Edit Warring

The warning you left on my talk page is not appropriate and falsely characterizes my actions. My most recent edit to ECI was meant to find a middle ground between opposing viewpoints by including in additional information that was not in the original edit in accordance with the arguments set forth in the talk page. This edit was not a reversion but an evolution of the article. The edit was an authentic attempt to resolve disputes and the characterization of this as "edit warring" is false. Greg Comlish (talk) 02:43, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Reported for Edit Warring

I have reported you at the WP:ANEW for edit warring because I think that you have used a socket puppet to violate the (3RR).

Truthtellers78 (talk) 19:22, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Your removal of my content

Your removal of properly sourced information in the Operation Red Coalition article

Earlier I noticed you had removed some properly sourced information I restored it and then took the discussion to the Talk Page. Discuss this at the articles talk page to avoid edit warring.

Truthtellers78 (talk) 22:56, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

E Miliband

Please do not tag team. The long term stable version was discussed at length - BRD is on the talkpage. Off2riorob (talk) 19:33, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Please do not edit war. When multiple people disagree with you, it's not "tag teaming", but a sign that you're likely incorrect. If you think the edit is a bad one (though it's obviously not), use the Talk: page, and stop edit-warring. Plot Spoiler (talk) 19:40, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Please stop tag teaming - BRD - well discussed content - the talkpage is where you should make your case. Off2riorob (talk) 19:50, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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Edit warring

The IP 80.78.79.156 is engaging in edit warring in the article 2011 attack on the British Embassy in Iran will you report him or shall I? Truthtellers78 (talk) 14:42, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Hiriya

Explain yourself here. You removed a top-quality source that anybody with a library card can verify. That isn't acceptable behavior. nableezy - 04:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gholhak Garden

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DYK for Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies

On 18 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies pioneered the usage of video testimonies to record eyewitness accounts of major historical events and inspired video testimony projects documenting other atrocities? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gholhak Garden

On 22 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gholhak Garden, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Gholhak Garden, a British diplomatic compound in northern Tehran, has been at the center of diplomatic controversy between Britain and Iran? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gholhak Garden.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Honor killing of Sadia Sheikh

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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Tikun Olam (blog)

Thanks for catching all those self-published claims - goes to show that I should check these things more thoroughly :) — Mr. Stradivarius 19:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Also, completely different issue, but please accept my apologies for this: I completely misread the edit histories. — Mr. Stradivarius 20:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit warring

Someone has miscounted Darkness Shines (talk) 20:17, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil

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DYK for Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil

On 6 January 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil, an alleged al-Qaeda operative based in Iran, is one of three designated terrorists in the Rewards for Justice Program's $10 million reward bracket? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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DYK for Sim Bhullar

On 17 January 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sim Bhullar, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Sim Bhullar, a 7-foot-5-inch (2.26 m) Indo-Canadian college basketball player at New Mexico State University, has been said to be "poised to become the world's first prominent men's basketball player of Indian descent"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sim Bhullar.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Jewish Virtual Library

You accused me of being "a POV IP warrior" who "remov well-sourced information." I strongly object to these characterizations. First, there is nothing wrong with not being a member of Misplaced Pages; if there were, anonymous edits would not be permitted.

Second, the quotes I removed are nowhere to be found on the Web sites cited. They are thus either not substantiatable, or were fabricated in the first place.

Third, I edited the claim that the JVL has received certain awards to reflect that it has only claimed to receive those awards; there is no substantiation of that claim beyond a page on the JVL itself.

Finally, the line I added tended to balance the article, not skew it. Every other statement in that article tends to lead the reader to believe that the JVL is objective; at least one notable critic has questioned that claim.

I have therefore reverted your reversions. Thank you.

68.83.233.82 (talk) 05:48, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Saeed Malekpour

On 31 January 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Saeed Malekpour, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Saeed Malekpour, an Iranian web designer and Canadian permanent resident, has been sentenced to death by Iran for allegedly designing and moderating pornographic websites? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Saeed Malekpour.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Port Said Stadium clashes

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Golan Heights

You should explain you revert because the article has special rules to explain every revert also BBC use the wording that you reverted so it may be a problem.Maybe you should find other sources.--Shrike (talk) 21:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

You have removed sourced information. I have reverted it back. Although you are technically required to explain your revert, if you anything else to add, please do so on the article's talk page. -asad (talk) 22:58, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

You are mentioned

Please see here . -asad (talk) 16:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

February 2012

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Toddst1 (talk) 20:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Todd, Plot Spoiler reverted 48 hours after his previous revert. That's not even 1RR, that's 1/2 RR, and he did mention BLP concerns as well. You might argue that I-P related material is on 1RR, but 1/2 RR? I've never heard of that before. Is that reasonable? Jayjg 22:01, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Todd, my two reverts were nearly 48 hours apart. Secondly, I've been trying to address some serious BLP concerns that Guinsberg appears to be ignoring. The highly inflammatory nature of these two articles is evident simply by the titles or sub-titles of the two articles (1) Blumenthal: "AIPAC Cheers an Anti-Semitic Holocaust Revisionist" (2) Abunimah: "Anti-Defamation League director Abraham Foxman condemned Breivik's ideology, but he is still an enabler of Islamophobia" . In these cases I believe the burden is on inclusion rather than exclusion, and Guinsberg refuses cooperate and discuss on this regard. BLP must be protected from defamation. Thanks. Plot Spoiler (talk) 22:13, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

It's not how fast you were edit warring, but that you were edit warring. While I see this that the content involved in this edit war comes close to a BLP issue, it stops short, saying "x expressed opinion y about person z." and is solidly cited. If anything, it might (I'm not sure) be WP:UNDUE, and I'm not going to wade into the content dispute. As I had blocked Guinsberg (talk · contribs) for edit warring on that article, it was only fair to block you for continuing the war (albeit slowly). I've fully protected the page at this point and I'm expecting that normal WP:DR processes will be followed by all. I'm tired of handing out blocks on this. You have been unblocked. Toddst1 (talk) 13:49, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Content dispute

All of my edits were careful to notice the charges were based on the authors' opinions of certain facts — not facts per se; the sources I had used were all reliable; and I did debate the BLP accusations. Instead of addressing my concerns, however, Jayjg kept repeating the same things -- that BLP prevents us from referencing those authors' opinions --, sometimes ignoring my counter-points by accusing me of ad hominem. Plot Spoiler removed more content bit by bit, and barely had a presence in the Talk Page. Notice that Plot Spoiler is a policy shopper -- his first allegation against Blumenthal's article is that he's a WP:Fringe figure; after I noticed it that "Fringe" applies to ideas, not people, he then accused his article of being fringe. And now he uses WP:BLP. WP:PS states that policy shopping may be evidence of POV-pushing. Read the Talk Page and you'll see that my portrayal of Plot Spoiler's editing behavior is accurate; I'm not being malicious. Moreover, what's so hurtful is noticing that, according to some opinion writers, ADL's president may be enabling Islamophobia? or that he may be employing double-standards? or that he may harbor certain prejudices? This is common language in public speech. Public figiures are not above reasonable scrutinity. The Paul Cameron entry, for instance, notices that some critics accuse him of misrepresenting research to justify prejudice against homosexuals. Does that violate BLP? There's an entry on a controvery aroused by a major Republican presidential pre-candidate, and it includes many statements by politicians, activists, journalists, accusing him of enabling intolerance. Does that violate BLP? According to Jayjig and Plot Spoiler's interpretation of BLP, I think they would. Their interpretation, if embraced by the wider Wiki community, would prevent Misplaced Pages from referencing everything but rosy assessment of public figures. Also notice that the Blumenthal article I tried to insert into the ADL entry has been non-controversially referenced elsewhere. Guinsberg (talk) 00:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Can Guinsberg please comment on the content and not on the editors? He simply does not understand WP:NPA or WP:AGF. Furthermore, his analysis is mistaken. Of course criticism is allowed of individuals and organizations but we need to be cognizant of policies like WP:BLP, WP:Notability and WP:Fringe. The Abunimah and Blumenthal articles are both inflammatory opinion pieces that violate BLP and are written by top-notch anti-Israel advocates that commonly advance fringe theories which you will not find in reliable sources. Please, including critical information on the relationship between the ADL and Hagee, but propagandists like Blumenthal should not be the ones advancing those arguments, as evidenced by the defamatory accusations made in his writings (like Abunimah). Plot Spoiler (talk) 04:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

I'd like you to pay attention to Plot Spoiler's reply: it fails to debate any of my points. Instead he just rehashes the old justifications for content removal, without producing any argument to back them up or refute others' counter-points. I have illustrated how harsh, though reasoned, criticism of living public figures has found its way into other Misplaced Pages entries. And those were just some examples. The John Hagee entry, for example, leads the reader to many outside references on RSs that have charged him of anti-Semitism. And I could bore everyone on here by listing more politicians, entrepreneurs, religious figures, rappers, athletes, etc., whose entries include references to equally tough critiques. As living persons, wouldn't they all be eligible to the same protections Jayjg and Plot Spoiler want to provide the ADL and its most prominent members? Well, as this isn't the case, I can only conclude that those two users are misreading BLP -- that BLP doesn't provide the far-reaching protections they long for. Both the references that I planned on referencing on the entry -- Abunimah's and Blumenthal's articles — fulfill the Misplaced Pages notability guideline, including the "substantial coverage" one: many sources, as I have illustrated on the ADL Talk Page, take a critical stance towards the group; reject its relations with figures such as John Hagee; and have accused it of failing to live up to its fame, not as a pro-Israel group, but as a group for defense of minorities. As for WP:Fringe, it can't be used to disqualify those critiques of the ADL, as no scholarly, authoritative opinion on the group has been produced, in comparison to which most departing views can be said to be fringe. Plus, "Fringe" also states that Misplaced Pages strives to "summarize significant opinions, with representation in proportion to their prominence", a message WP:NPOV also echoes. However, the edits I had inserted into the entry took but very minor portions of the article; Blumenthal's and Abunimah's criticisms, common as they are, didn't take more space than their prominence demands. And though Plot Spoiler says their views were fringe theories that couldn't be found on RSs, both articles were syndicated in sources deemed reliable by the Wiki community: Al Jazeera English and the Huffington Post, both of which are often employed by editors on other, unrelated entries. Though I don't want to disqualify myself by engaging in ad hominem, I'd like to point out that Jayjg's and Plot Spoiler's arguments are no better than what you can see on here: they seem to be based on a hurried, superficial reading of other users' edits and Misplaced Pages guidelines. Also notice that Plot Spoiler is violating WP:NPOV by, in my view, implying that Misplaced Pages shouldn't take into account the views of allegedly "anti-Israel" writers and accusing them of being "propagandist" and "fringe ". This doesn't strike me as an assessment based on Misplaced Pages guidelines — it looks to me like Plot Spoiler is confusing his own impassioned views with Misplaced Pages's editing rules. As noticed before, Misplaced Pages "strives to "summarize significant opinions, with representation in proportion to their prominence". That is, even though Misplaced Pages advises not to give more space to views than their notability deserves, it doesn't discriminate based on authors' political biases, or in this case, whether they are pro- or non-Zionist figures. 177.17.107.67 (talk) 07:23, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to split Park51 to Ground Zero controversy

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embassy attacks

kindly watch waht you blindly revert because "professional" edits dont include wrong information. Certainly doesnt show well in assuming AGF.Lihaas (talk) 07:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

NPA

do NOT attack others instead COMMENT ON CONTENTLihaas (talk) 22:43, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Circumcision page

Hi Plot Spoiler,

Thanks for your concern about the revert. We had discussed that addition in depth in the RfC. Very few people approved of it, but JakeW insisted on edit warring it in. Gsonnenf (talk) 02:43, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

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Reply

Since you have not provided any valid argument for your move I suggest you reply here: --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 17:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk Page archiving guideline

Hello Plot Spoiler. In answer to your question why am I changing this long standing guideline? If you would have read the talk page you would have your answer. I encourage you to participate in the discussion instead of blindly reverting. Cheers Garycompugeek (talk) 19:19, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:Islamophobia

Please explain why you want to exclude Eurabia from Template:Islamophobia on the talk page.--Toddy1 (talk) 11:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

What is the problem with the Ian Shapiro photo & page?

Hello, could you please explain why you took down the photograph of Ian Shapiro? There is no copyright issue with the photograph being posted here. And please be clearer regarding why you think it's like an essay rather than an encyclopedia article. If you read encyclopedia articles in actual intellectual history encyclopedias, I think you'll find they read pretty much like this article. I have edited / written a few such articles myself. I have also asked several people - including two professional writer / editors completely unfamiliar with the subject - to read the article and they all felt it read like an encyclopedia article. I see that several users have also rated the article and do not agree with you. Please be VERY specific about what you want changed as it is not obvious. Thank you. SocSciHistory (talk) 17:32, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I responded to your concerns on my talk page, but just realized I probably was supposed to address them on your talk page? In any case, let's be grown-ups and work constructively and collaboratively on this. I think we both have the same goal, which is to add to and improve wikipedia. Am I right? Everyone else seems to think the article is now sufficiently well sourced and objective. I am 100% willing to address specific concerns you have about specific statements. I have already addressed the one you listed (see my talk page) and we can continue to go through line by line if you want on the article's talk page. SocSciHistory (talk) 15:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Freedom and Justice Party

A little while ago, you moved this page without prior discussion. In view of an earlier discussion (Talk:Freedom and Justice Party (Egypt)#Page move), I have reverted your move and recommend that you start a new move request, presenting your arguments. Favonian (talk) 19:26, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

AE

WP:AE#Plot Spoiler nableezy - 04:38, 26 July 2012 (UTC)