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::You're right. It was 19 month period and not a year. Jan 96 -July 97. ::You're right. It was 19 month period and not a year. Jan 96 -July 97.
] 14:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC) ] 14:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that the PIRA ceasefire ended on Friday 09/02/1996 not "December 1995" or Jan 96. It was renewed again on 20/07/1997.

PIRA Statement ending Ceasefire http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/peace/docs/ira9296.htm

Figures for PIRA fatalities 9/2/1996 - 20/7/1997 are:

# 2 civilians 9th Feb. (excluding DAAD shooting Sean Devlin 06/09/1996 & 1996 INLA feud)
# 2 british army 7/10/96 & 12/2/1997
# 1 Garda - McCabe 7th June 1996
# 2 RUC - 13/6/1997

during same period the figures for loyalist fatalities are:
# 21/06/1996 - Gareth Parker
# 07/07/1996 - Michael McGoldrick
# 12/09/1996 - Michael Whelan
# 14/03/1997 - John Slane
# 24/03/1997 - David Templeton
# 08/05/1997 - Robert Hamill
# 12/05/1997 - Sean Brown
# 01/06/1997 - Gregory Taylor (RUC)
# 11/06/1997 - Robert 'Basher' Bates (loyalist)
# 07/07/1997 - Brian Morton (loyalist)
# 15/07/1997 - Bernadette Martin

Its sloppy. I will clear up the sentence so its clearer.

Revision as of 19:10, 27 April 2006

dont see how to edit references #27, the source for my change is: http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/othelem/chron/ch97.htm

CAIN has 1 british army fatality, the last in current round of conflict, on 12/2/1997, 1 RUC fulltime, and 1 RUC reserve shot dead by PIRA on 13/6/1997.

No civilian death from PIRA, RIRA, OIRA, INLA, IPLO etc., (excluding Billy Wright shot 27/12, Glen Greer dead in premature explosion at loyalist weapons dump 25/10, and the attack on Desmond Christopher Moonan 14/8 unattributed in court). http://www.courtsni.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/FE7EE0D2-3D1E-4016-B386-8396FD271C55/0/j_j_NICE3182.htm

the civilian death attributed to loyalists;

  1. 14/03/1997 - John Slane
  2. 24/03/1997 - David Templeton
  3. 08/05/1997 - Robert Hamill
  4. 12/05/1997 - Sean Brown
  5. 01/06/1997 - Gregory Taylor (RUC)
  6. 11/06/1997 - Robert 'Basher' Bates (loyalist)
  7. 07/07/1997 - Brian Morton (loyalist)
  8. 15/07/1997 - Bernadette Martin
  9. 24/07/1997 - James Morgan
  10. 01/08/1997 - Stewart Hunter
  11. 08/11/1997 - Robert Kerr (loyalist)
  12. 09/11/1997 - Raymond McCord
  13. 05/12/1997 - Gerry Devlin
  14. 27/12/1997 - Seamus Dillon (republican)
  15. 31/12/1997 - Eddie Traynor

Fluffy999 22:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

You should be counting 1996 as well as 1997. Two civilians killed in Canary Wharf bomb in Feb 96. One Brit army killed in bomb attack on Thiepval barracks Jdorney 16:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, but I took it to be indicating the year of the ceasefire.

"From December 1995 until July 1997, the Provisional IRA called off its 1994 ceasefire because of its dissatisfaction with the state of negotiations. However its campaign IN THIS YEAR never reached the intensity of that before the ceasefire it killed 2 British soldiers, 2 RUC men and 2 civilians, "

What year? If its indicating a toll for December 1995 until July 1997 then its not a year and the figures given are wrong also. I will check the reference to see what context Ed Moloney, The Secret History of the IRA is cited.

Fluffy999 22:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

You're right. It was 19 month period and not a year. Jan 96 -July 97.

Jdorney 14:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that the PIRA ceasefire ended on Friday 09/02/1996 not "December 1995" or Jan 96. It was renewed again on 20/07/1997.

PIRA Statement ending Ceasefire http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/peace/docs/ira9296.htm

Figures for PIRA fatalities 9/2/1996 - 20/7/1997 are:

  1. 2 civilians 9th Feb. (excluding DAAD shooting Sean Devlin 06/09/1996 & 1996 INLA feud)
  2. 2 british army 7/10/96 & 12/2/1997
  3. 1 Garda - McCabe 7th June 1996
  4. 2 RUC - 13/6/1997

during same period the figures for loyalist fatalities are:

  1. 21/06/1996 - Gareth Parker
  2. 07/07/1996 - Michael McGoldrick
  3. 12/09/1996 - Michael Whelan
  4. 14/03/1997 - John Slane
  5. 24/03/1997 - David Templeton
  6. 08/05/1997 - Robert Hamill
  7. 12/05/1997 - Sean Brown
  8. 01/06/1997 - Gregory Taylor (RUC)
  9. 11/06/1997 - Robert 'Basher' Bates (loyalist)
  10. 07/07/1997 - Brian Morton (loyalist)
  11. 15/07/1997 - Bernadette Martin

Its sloppy. I will clear up the sentence so its clearer.