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	For addressing the comments on the GA review of Antigua and Barbuda at the 2008 Summer Olympics, even though you weren't asked to help. Thank you. :) Starstriker7 05:12, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

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Corsica and Brittany

Can you please refrain from adding Brittany and Corsica in the football squad template for player nationality as you did here and here. I have reverted you because Corsican and Breton are ethnic groups and not nationalities. — JS 05:25, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Xabi Alonso's Nationality

Hi. I changed Alonso's little nationality flag back to Spain because according to FIFA, the highest football authority, lists him as Spanish. Official nationalities are determined by what FIFA-sanctioned national team one plays for. I'm sure Basque is a nationality, but it's not really recognized by FIFA. (And I guess if you've never played for a full national team, you go by your affiliation at the youth level. If your not a youth team member, then you probably go by the country you're from politically.) If you look at the roster for Athletic Bilbao, all the players are listed as Spanish, even though they're also technically Basque. Except for, interestingly, Fernando Amorebieta, who now plays for the Venezuelan national team. He was born in Venezuela, and part of his family comes from there. He's still home-grown in Basque Country, though, so Athletic will still keep him.

You could argue that Alonso be considered Basque because of his appearances for the Basque team, but the team isn't officially sanctioned by FIFA or UEFA. It's allowed to play in friendly matches, but it can take part in official competitions like the World Cup or the Euros. The Catalan national team is in the same boat; that's why Xavi & Co. over at FC Barcelona (as well as Bojan Krkic and Joan Capdevila) have Spanish flags next to their names instead of Catalan ones. So Xabi may be Basque, but in FIFA's eyes, he's a World-Cup-winning Spaniard.

Hope that clears everything up.

Cheers, Otaku-jin (talk) 05:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

I changed it back too and if you insist on going against WP:MOSFLAG and push a Basque separatist agenda you will find your account blocked. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

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Your GA review

I mentioned it at Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations#Speedy_pass. Could you link the review there and on the article's talk page? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 02:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

A response there would be best. Until then, if I catch you promoting articles out of process again I have no trouble blocking you. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:17, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ed Sheehy

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Alaska Airlines GA review

Regarding this, let me tell you that a bot will mark the article as a good one only after all the issues I'm raising are succesfully addressed and I pass the article as such. You don't need to do anything. Cheers.--Jetstreamer  23:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

So I am befuddled now, please explain how you pass an article to become a GA again?Oakley77 (talk) 00:59, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

The article never gained GA status. The nomination was quick-failed (not by me) a week ago.--Jetstreamer  01:08, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

What do I have to do to make an article a GA?Oakley77 (talk) 01:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Alaska Airlines, it has been nominated and I'm reviewing the article. You may want to take a look at WP:GA for further information concerning the nomination and reviewing process.--Jetstreamer  01:12, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Good article nominations#Proposal to bar Oakley77 from reviewing GA articles

I have made a proposal to bar you from reviewing articles nominated for GA status for at least six months, given the disruption your reviews are causing. You are of course more than welcome to comment upon this proposal at the above link. Regards, Bencherlite 09:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Ban is now active per that page. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 15:07, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Proposed deletion of Cho In-Chol

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Non-notable football player. Only one link provided to support notability, but it finally doesn't.

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Adding reference on wiki articles

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A question

Hi,
I notice you created lots of 11-word stubs on settlements in Tibet, which appear to fail both WP:V and WP:N; they have no sources at all. Could you explain? Why were these articles created? bobrayner (talk) 16:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of Nezpique, Louisiana for deletion

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Nomination of Gar, Tibet for deletion

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Tibet

Ciao, I see you've recently created a fair few pages on settlements in Tibet; apparently these may not always include the necessary decent sources, you know how it is, etcetera etcetera; I guess to help understand these administrative units it would be good for them to be nicely located in the administrative tree, ie Tibet - Prefecture - County - Township - Village; Here's a good source (National Bureau of Statistics of the People's Republic of China): Tibet (西藏) is second in from the left on the bottom row; drill down, you get the prefectures, then the counties, then the townships, then the villages; Google Translate might be a starting point with these; and the ultimate goal would be to have the right interwiki links too; Nihil autem minus perfecto duci quam festinationem temeritatemque convenire arbitrabatur. Crebro itaque illa iactabat: σπεῦδε βραδέως; ἀσφαλὴς γάρ ἐστ᾽ ἀμείνων ἢ θρασὺς στρατηλάτης; et: "sat celeriter fieri quidquid fiat satis bene as they say... Might help avoid this, this, and a metaphorical one of these! Thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 15:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, when titling articles, keep this in mind: if a placename has "xiang" at the very end of its name, it is likely a township. The only way to make sure is to check that 乡 is in the Chinese name. Ex: If "F" is the name of a township, please don't title the article "Fxiang", but rather "F Township". I've already fixed this issue at Chundui Township and Kazi Township, Lhünzhub County. Thanks much GotR 06:18, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Chobani

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Shapsug Reservoir

Would make a big difference to wikipedia if you could add a fact or two and sourced about it.. I understand the desire to simply blue link articles but so much info is becoming available in google books now... ♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Good article nominations

Issues are still being brought to the WT:GAN page regarding your nominations. I would suggest slowing down a bit with that and only nominating one or two at a time. It would also be a good idea to announce your intention on the articles talk page if you are not a major contributor and to make sure there are no outstanding cleanup tags before nominating. There is a very real chance that if you do not do this you will be banned from the Good article process completely. AIRcorn (talk) 03:03, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Please also remember Oakley77 that before nominating an article, it's recommended to check it against the criteria for Good Articles, and as we've seen, you seem not to be in complete knowlegde of what the criteria is, which i again strongly recommend you to study before nominating articles we'd have to quickfail. Regards. --Hahc21 03:23, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

OK, that's enough disruption from you on the GA project. I have made a further proposal at Misplaced Pages talk:Good article nominations#Proposal to bar Oakley77 from nominating GA articles to stop you nominating anything for GA and to stop you commenting on any reviews since you are demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the GA criteria and you're simply causing more work for others. Please comment there, not here or on my talk page. Bencherlite 06:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

And please don't move on to FAC - they have a rule that only significant contributors to an article may nominate it, and your recent nomination (Winnipeg) does not meet that rule. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The ban above has been enacted. --Rschen7754 20:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Henry Orelus

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June 2012

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Talkback

I left comments at Talk:The Canterbury Tales/GA1. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

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Babe Ruth

Why did you try to nominate this article for GA? I've worked on this article on and off for a while, and you did a drive by nomination. It has consecutive unsourced paragraphs and some other problems. You, as far as I can tell, have never edited the page. I deleted the GA nom template. The article is far from ready. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:25, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You are barred from nominating articles for GA status, remember? Any further GA nominations by you before the bar is lifted will see you blocked for disruptive editing, I promise you. Bencherlite 20:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

This is your one warning. The next time you violate your ban, you will be blocked for 24 hours. --Rschen7754 21:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

"Just to have clarity, I can still edit articles to get them to GA form right. As in helping the nominator make constructive edits while article is under review?" You can edit articles but must not nominate them for GA, or enter into any discussion on a GA review page if somebody else nominates them. And don't try getting someone to nominate articles as your proxy either. I strongly suggest that you avoid any thoughts of achieving GA status for any article, whether it's one that you've helped to write or not, and find other things to do. Bencherlite 21:25, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Understood, the rules that is. Oakley77 (talk) 21:26, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Edmonton Theosophical Society ‎

I've just reverted your edits to Edmonton Theosophical Society. I'm not sure why you've removed the {{orphan}} tag from it, since it's as clearly an orphaned article as it's possible to be - it doesn't have a single incoming link. Likewise, there's no need to add an article to a parent category when it's already in a subcategory of that parent. Mogism (talk) 22:56, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

In addition, I've just undone about 20 unexplained removals by you of maintenance tags. Please stop removing maintenance tags unless the problem has been addressed. Mogism (talk) 23:10, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Today's featured article

It's a bit unclear whether your comment about Rwanda on Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/requests#July 1 is a vote to support - could you please clarify? Prioryman (talk) 10:14, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Pera College

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RE: Tamil Eelam Article List

"I have added a bunch of new articles to the project, and wish that you would update the little assessment box. Thanks, Oakley77 (talk) 12:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)"

If you're referring to this assessment box, it has been updated. Regards Wiki Raja (talk) 18:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Baxt

This article is really too short to be useful. At the very least you could include the name in cyrillic.©Geni 22:12, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Baxt for deletion

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Nomination of Shupanga for deletion

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Nomination of Sioma for deletion

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Warning concerning creation of substandard article

You created recently a large number of articles which are way below the Misplaced Pages standards. Let me as an example point out to the article Shupanga, which you created on May 23. What you created was an unsourced one-line stub which unsurprisingly made it to WP:AfD (this is how I found it). First of all, articles should be sourced, otherwise the info can not be verified. Moreover, in this particular case, I found, spending about half an hour of my time so far, that the information you introduced to the article was as a matter of fact wrong: the place is currently called Chupanga, and is located in Mozambique rather than in Zambia (to my knowledge, there is no place in Zambia called Shupanga or Chupanga). In view of this, I strongly suggest that you immediately stop creating such articles and concentrate on improving those you have already created, as I suspect they are of similar quality. Otherwise, I will have to report you on WP:ANI. Thank you for your understanding.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

• In addition, please note that this constitutes a deliberate introduction of false information, aka vandalism.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:31, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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GAN reviews

Is there any particular reason why you are jumping in to fix GAN review issues when that's really the nominator's job? --Rschen7754 04:09, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, it appears that you have already been banned from doing this, and have been warned about this too. Thus, I'm going to block you for 48 hours. If you do this again, the length of the block will continue to increase. --Rschen7754 04:11, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

GAN

I feel a little bad about what happened recently. I'm a bit emotional. If you want to help on GAN, there's a way you can do it. You can address the issues written by the reviewer on the Review page but avoid editing the review page itself. You don't need to write on that page that you were the one who solved the issues; another editor will get into it, and give you a barnstar for your efforts as happened above with Starstriker. As i always say: If you do something good, somebody, somewhere, will know about it. Regards! —Hahc21 05:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, to clarify, what I blocked for is your hijacking of the nomination process and taking it over from the nominator. You should give the nominator a chance to respond to what the reviewer has to say. Sometimes the nominator will disagree with what the reviewer has to say and will not want to make the changes; if you make them, then that doesn't give the nominator that option. --Rschen7754 05:38, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, yes. Oakley might consider that either. —Hahc21 13:34, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Given what I have written above (and got no reaction), we might consider expanding restrictions instead.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:37, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually, Do you know when his block will expire?Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 16:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

So it is alright to make the changes, just not to sign the changes? Oakley77 (talk) 18:43, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

• No. Your ban says you cannot comment on reviews, and to avoid quibbling over prepositions you should simply stay away from GA reviews altogether: I take "comment on reviews" to mean "make comments in GA reviews on the article or on the comments by other editors or on the comments on comments..." et cetera. As long as you seem to be unclear about what you shouldn't be doing, you probably shouldn't be doing anything that has anything to do with the GA process. If you violate this ban again, chances are your block will be a lot longer: I'm not sure you realize how many feathers you've ruffled with your rash actions, and that includes me. I thought you had done some actual work on The Canterbury Tales but you hadn't. You actually didn't do a damn thing on that article, except, after I started my review, this--and that's not work (really, it's useless). And then you say you don't know how to cite! That's unbelievable. You simply do not have the competence to be involved in the GA process: I spent more time on my review than you did on the article, and that irritates me immensely. In short: stay away from GA. Drmies (talk) 20:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Your vote at FPC

Hi there. Will you clarify your vote at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Myrtle Warbler? Thanks. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• Please see the discussion above: comments on the editor's qualifications for GA also pertain to FA, in my opinion, even though a ban there is not in place. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 07:54, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

The Puntland

Must we start the Puntland wp on 5 November or later? It should remain proposed for a few months, and i'll have to read a few thing to make it a good wp.Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:02, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Jetstreamer  00:14, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

If you want to work on an article going to good...

If you desperately want to work on an article going to good, if Cambodia women's national football team survives the AfD, I will almost certainly take it there. It needs the following work (without removing any information):

1. The background and development section needs to be organised better. At the moment, it is a bit of an unorganised mish-mash of information.
2. The team information section needs to be made more fluid, with improved flow. It reads very point. point. point. point.

• All one paragraph now. Oakley77 (talk) 23:40, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

1. The under-13, under-14, under-16 teams need to have flow improved. Again, reads point. point. point. point.

• Done and cleaned up. Oakley77 (talk) 23:38, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

1. Citations may need more consistent formatting. Dating should be consistent. (Ideally British format.) Location, language should be put into things. The .com type links should be replaced with the actual publisher.
2. Repeated wiki links to articles need to be removed.

Done what I think is necessary. Oakley77 (talk) 17:03, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

1. Excessive red links need to be removed so there are probably no more than five on the article. In some cases, this would be an editorial decision to remove the interwiki link and in other cases, finding what it should actually be linking to.

• Done. Oakley77 (talk) 16:32, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

This would be a great big help before a nomination for GA as I know these are weakness. --LauraHale (talk) 08:52, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

• Laura, I saw you nominated the article, but there is (still) a large amount of work on prose and punctuation to be done--there may be so many that a quick fail would be in order. Perhaps the guild of copy editors can help out here. Drmies (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but why comment on my talk page? Why not comment on her page? Oakley77 (talk) 23:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

North Korea national football team

North Korea national football team is not what I would call ready. The player list is way too long. I'd only have the current squad. The current squad also needs some sources. The text is very, very limited and isn't fully supported by sources. The World Cup part of their history isn't organised logically. I would actually ding the assessment down to a C, because the article is NOT fully sources and it feels really incomplete. The article only has 15 sources. For a team that has as many world cup appearances as they do, I would be expecting AT LEAST 50 sources. I'd also be expecting the See also section to be gone as the article should be so complete, these are not necessary. --LauraHale (talk) 21:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

having a quick look on my iPhone, none of the B class men articles are at solace where I would be comfortable nominating them without extensive work. Brazil requires a lot of work, much editorial plus other work. Australia has a tag that says problems since 2010. India needs a fair amount of sourcing. India and Australia could both be assessed C easily. If a men's team was easily reachable, some nationalistic fan of the country would have done it already. --LauraHale (talk) 23:05, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Potential GA candidates

Rschen7754 thinks if you work with me, this might be one way to eventually get your GA participation restrictions lifted. I'm willing to nominally serve as a mentor to help you get back by making sure you understand what is GA ready... but I edit primarily in Australian sport, women's sport and Paralympic sport. That said, I have about 9 articles that are Good Articles. I would like to take the remaining six articles to GA to have a good topic. These articles are:

• Jane Moran
• Gemma Beadsworth
• Melissa Rippon
• Sophie Smith
• Kate Gynther
• Greg McFadden

These articles are pretty close to being ready to nominate as the articles are mostly complete. I've just been distracted by getting other Australian Olympians to DYK and GA nominations for women's football teams. The following needs to be done:

Jane Moran

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA source.
  • Added and sourced some useful nuggets of information. Oakley77 (talk) 16:27, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts. AOC Source
  • Added some info here as well. Oakley77 (talk) 14:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
• Where was Moran playing club water polo in 2009 and 2010? Information needs to be included in the article.
  • Info found and placed. Oakley77 (talk) 02:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
  • I believe it has been. Oakley77 (talk) 02:42, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
  • All look fine here. Oakley77 (talk) 02:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.
  • After reading the article, the flow seems to suffice. Oakley77 (talk) 16:56, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking at http://www.australianwaterpolo.com.au/high-performance/senior-women-profiles/profiles/moran-jane/ , and the club water polo stuff is very much in this article. There is no indication she took time off:
1st, NWPL Championship with Brisbane Barracudas 2009, 2010, 2011

Pretty much EVERYTHING on Australian Water Polo's page needs to be included in the article. The article doesn't say what position she plays in it. That is like writing a football article without mentioning what position a person plays (forward, fullback, goalie). Australian Water Polo's page needs to be used a lot more in the article to fill in the details as a GA needs to be fully sourced and complete information wise. --LauraHale (talk) 21:43, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Gemma Beadsworth

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA Source
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts. AOC Source
• Club water polo: 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2012 were years she played. Where was she in 2009 and 2011? Source needed and information needs to be put into the article.
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.

Melissa Rippon

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA Source
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts. AOC Source
• Club play is a bit of a blank slate. Who did she play for? When? What did she accomplish? NWPL may have additional sources.
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.

Sophie Smith

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA Source
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts. AOC Source.
• Club play is a bit of a blank slate. What happened between 2008 and 2012? Previous sources may answer. NWPL may have additional sources.
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.

Kate Gynther

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA Source.
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts.
• Duplicate citation needs to be fixed: "Four named in national squad". The Courier-Mail. Retrieved 21 February 2012.
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.

I would estimate each of these articles would require an hour to three hours worth of work each to address those points. If you can get these things done, I will nominate these articles for GA, and I will allow you to fix changes any reviewer requests, then comment on the GA itself to say this was done, so you do not violate the conditions of your community band. You can then claim that you did substantial work on these articles (and helped take a topic to Good Topic.). These articles are important to me because I suspect the Australian media will plagiarise them if the team does what is expected and medals at the Games. At the same time, I know the girls on the team have seen these articles and are very happy with them having been created/massively improved. We got permission for the head shots. --LauraHale (talk) 02:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Animals in media

WikiProject Animals in media has been created! Since you expressed support in joining, you may sign up here. Don't forget the userbox! Brambleberry of RiverClan 16:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

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In response to your questions...

1. The code is in the "templates" section. 2. I really need help tagging the insane amount of articles that fall into this category, and I'm also having trouble with Category:WikiProject Animals in media. I tagged the template, so in theory everything should be there, but it isn't.

If you would rather discussion be kept to one page, just say which one, yours or mine. Brambleberry of RiverClan 16:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

We can keep it on mine. Also is the tagging template there, because I can do that, just need the tat template mate. Oakley77 (talk) 16:33, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

The template is here, and the category I'm talking about is below. Brambleberry of RiverClan 16:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I accidentally added your talk page to the project. Just paste this in: ]. Brambleberry of RiverClan 16:39, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I assessed roughly 35 articles. Where is the assessment box? Oakley77 (talk) 18:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea how to make one. Do you? Brambleberry of RiverClan 18:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, no! But you should ask an expert, and I will try to learn, because it is virtually necessary. Oakley77 (talk) 18:07, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Maybe there's a page... I'll get on it, but I think I have to get off the computer soon. Brambleberry of RiverClan 18:11, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

No worries mate! Oakley77 (talk) 18:12, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I found a page that tells you how to do it. It says the bot does its run every few days, and all we have to do is set up for it. I can do that now. Brambleberry of RiverClan 18:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Need any help? Can you do it solo? Oakley77 (talk) 18:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I set it all up, but I'm having a problem with the importance. It doesn't recognize it as "High-importance Animals in media articles", but rather with a lowercase "a" in "animals". Brambleberry of RiverClan 18:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, may be a glitch. Is the box on the project somewhere? Oakley77 (talk) 18:29, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I could check, but I have to go. You should look; I'm probably not going to be on again until tomorrow. Brambleberry of RiverClan 18:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Got it. Oakley77 (talk) 18:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Getting the Stats

I found out how to get the stats immediately for Animals in media. Just go here and select "Animals in media". I'm afraid to let anything run on my computer, though. Brambleberry of RiverClan 21:14, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, the bot did its run today and the stats are on the page! Brambleberry of RiverClan 21:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

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More Animals in media things...

Sorry if you're getting tired of this, I just have a little task for you to do. Can you grade Doglands for me? I'm terrible at grading my own articles, and no other groups seem to have seen it, even though I tagged it for them. Brambleberry of RiverClan 15:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Article Declined: Gaylord Discovery Center

That is the first Article I have contributed. I tried to pay attention to Notability and Neutrality. It has now been declined for both. I used existing Articles as examples of what to include. My interpretation is that the Article Gaylord Discovery Center is on par with the examples of Impression 5 Science Center, Ann Arbor Hands-On Museum, and Flint Children's Museum. Do you have recommendations on what to change to make the proposed article more fit for acceptance?

ThanksMehkael (talk) 23:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC) Just add some better formatting, and I will pass it!. Oakley77 (talk) 00:30, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

GAN stuff

Hi. I've got some stress things going on, and the bits I saw on Jane Moran didn't particularly impress me. I haven't seen any other edits to water polo articles. I haven't seen a demonstration that you understand sourcing or organisation. I've got some other things going on with Misplaced Pages and my willingness was pretty narrowly confined to and based on the water polo work with the idea of you can work on them with VERY CLEAR guidelines of what needs work. This wasn't really ever done that I could see. If you want to work on other articles with the idea of being able to work on them for GAN, you'll need to find some one else to help you with that. The outside work I've seen hasn't indicated any growing awareness of criteria that I'd be willing to give easy passes. The introduction of copyvios into Misplaced Pages through AFC that were obvious also makes me hesitant to work with you outside areas where I can pretty much know if your own submissions are copyvios or not. Oakley77 (talk) 22:56, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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Also, I received comments from others: that Kristóf Nyíri might not be notable (or adequately cited as such). I included other authors/ academics that reference him and his work - one of which has her own wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/Cressida_Heyes). I'm not sure what else I can add... do you have any suggestions?

Many thanks, Lora — Preceding unsigned comment added by LAinNJ (talk • contribs) 15:06, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

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Arctic Anthropology

Hello Oakley77,

I was just wondering what your reason was for accepting (in AfC) the article Arctic Anthropology. Its references clearly don't constitute significant, independent coverage, as is required by the AfC reviewer guidelines.

Thanks, Gold Standard 23:16, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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• "Topic banned from ITN" doesn't mean "carry on and hope nobody notices". Can you please stop disrupting? 188.28.250.128 (talk) 22:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
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Also, I have cleaned up after a few of the Tibetan town/village articles you created back in May. The Chinese for some of your creations was obvious (such as Shangzayü), but without Chinese (Tibetan makes no sense to me), county-level units, or coordinates accurate to at least the nearest arc-minute, most of them have eluded my identifying them. GotR 04:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

• Great, thanks alot. I am on vacation till Sunday, but as soon as I come back, I will help with anything you need, including the peer review. Oakley77 (talk) 17:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I was foolish, and selfish, I know. I did what I did because, as I stated before, I am passionate about the GA process, and all of Misplaced Pages. This background beside, it was an astoundingly stupid thing to do, to be frank. I know, with the correcting benefit of hindsight, that those kind of actions are not acceptable and are not to be repeated in any shape or form. I also want you to know that, unlike some "sock-puppeteers", I created a second, unauthorized account not to vandalize or hamper Misplaced Pages, but to make its articles better. I am an editor who is thoroughly dedicated to growing Misplaced Pages positively, and would never, ever think of vandalizing it. The only mistakes I have every made since I "signed on" have been in an effort to expand Misplaced Pages in a constructive way.I apologize entirely for any damage I have perpetrated, if any, and I also apologize for any editor's time I have wasted. Hoping to be reinstated, and hopijg for forgiveness, Oakley77 (talk) 17:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Competence really does seem to be the issue here. I believe that you genuinely want to improve Misplaced Pages, and that you genuinely don't intend any harm. Unfortunately, I'm also persuaded that as much as you might intend good, you can't keep yourself from continuing on with actions that you've been told are disruptive. You need some time away from Misplaced Pages, completely, to break the cycle and refocus. My recommendation would be that you take AGK's suggestion that you appeal your block in a few months' time to Arbcom. Hopefully then you will be able to make a persuasive case for how you plan to keep this sort of disruption from happening again. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 01:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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You said that you would comply with the ban beforehand, and you clearly went around it, multiple times. Why should we believe you this time? --Rschen7754 22:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, here is my take on it. Many editors will back me up when I say I have a well-appreciated constructive mindset when I edit or attempt to. Most of them just believe that I don't have the right methodology or understanding, per se, to be 100% positively constructive. As I go, I gain more understanding and adopt the proper protocol. I have imbued these methods into my editing, and get to know them when I make a mistake or blunder, however significant it is. This, I admit, is one of my biggest and worse "offences". This aside, due to my track record, I implore you to see the passion for Misplaced Pages I have, and please instill the trust in me to abide by every proper modus operandi Misplaced Pages has. My constructive edits make me refreshingly different from most every other blocked account, and wish to continue making them if you just give the chance, albeit my second. Thank you for helping edit again, Oakley77 (talk) 00:14, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Given your apparent good faith efforts to improve Misplaced Pages, rather than seeking indefinite blocks earlier, a topic ban was enacted to give you time to learn how to edit and how to improve Misplaced Pages. You were not prohibited from improving articles: you were blocked from certain processes. Rather than seeking to improve Misplaced Pages inside the context of your topic ban, you went around it in ways that were not helpful. You were blocked short term for doing this once, and didn't get the message: improve Misplaced Pages and avoid assessment processes. Not sure I see a demonstration that you want to improve Misplaced Pages and avoid assessment processes. --LauraHale (talk) 00:33, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Oakley77, this would be your fourth chance. Your disregard of the bans got you blocked twice, and your sockpuppetry around the bans got you an indefinite block. Your last edit before the investigation and ban was, "I will help with anything you need, including the peer review" (emphasis added) while you still had three months to go on the "no reviews anywhere" ban (talk page notice). Your socking to nominate articles for GA status shows the same problems that got you banned from GAN 3 months before. You have not shown any ability to "gain more understanding and adopt the proper protocol."

I suggest you read the standard offer and take in the first item: "Wait six months without sockpuppetry." I believe you need that time to understand the rules and policies (the "protocol"). 71.234.215.133 (talk) 00:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

• Note to reviewing admin - Not reviewing this one as I've already blocked this user twice, but I endorse the indefinite block until we have something more concrete. WP:AGF is not a suicide pact, and also there are clear WP:COMPETENCE issues. The user has had at least a month to show improvement and has been given mentorship, and has not improved. --Rschen7754 00:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Just wanted to also comment that at least one of the articles nominates for GA Oakley77 was SPECIFICALLY told was not ready for GAN. It is still not ready. Specifically nominating an article he was told he was not ready and going around a block to do that is disruptive to GAN. --LauraHale (talk) 00:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Let me please clarify that yes, in hindsight, my recent actions at GAN were slightly disruptive. At the time of perpetration, I was believing to be doing something constructive, by giving articles a distinction they deserve, as well as the editors. I apologize to any editor I disrupted, and to disrupting the entire process, but it was all done in a mindset of good faith. I am sorry, but did not mean to cause trouble in any way, shape, or form. Oakley77 (talk) 00:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Anna's offer

As you know, I'm always recruiting. If an admin decides to allow him to redeem himself, and Oakley77 is willing, I would be willing to provide him with a set of stubs to create and expand, and keep an eye on his contribs.

Competency issues were mentioned, but with GA, I also have competency issues.

This user has shown trouble staying out of areas from which he is prohibited. So, restricting him to a very few articles may be a good test, make him productive, help him reform, and benefit the project with some new content. If he can't contain himself, and starts to put fingers into other pies, indef him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Anna, thank you for your comments; but historically those types of experiments have ended rather poorly, so I'm afraid I couldn't endorse your proposal. Some editors are simply not able to collaborate with others, and as a community we can do nothing except gently exclude them—even if we periodically re-assess whether they might have (through real-life experience, maturation, or other factors) become equipped with the skills they previously lacked. At this stage, it's clear we can do nothing for Oakley77 (or he for us), and that the best advise is he take a few months' break from Misplaced Pages. The Arbitration Committee usually hear appeals every 6 months, and the community every year; blocking indefinitely (with the presumption that he can request to return after an extended time) seems to me like the best way of proceeding. At the time of any appeal (for example, in 6 months from now), if Oakley is still interested in contributing, then whether or not he had socked would stand to tell us if he is able to comply with the community's policies and decisions. AGK 01:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

AGK: Fair enough, my friend. I trust your judgement.

Oakley: Listen to AGK. Take a break. Don't sock or you'll never be allowed back. Good luck. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

If the offer is still on the table, I metaphorically reach over and take it. I appreciate greatly for helping me, and will diligently do what is asked of me. Oakley77 (talk)

I am with AGK on this. Mentorship has been tried with Oakley77. Oakley77 managed for about a day or so before losing interest in the narrow confines of the conditions which would have allowed him back to GA, proposed articles outside of that area (which required a lot of time and effort to explain why they did not meet them). If Oakley77 had said "I want to get back to GA. I was told to do things on Talk:Jane Moran and I will do them. After I get this done, I will ask for permission to get back to GA or select which articles my mentor will oversee me improving to GA that they can them nominate on my behalf" I might be okay with this. Oakley77 wasted time by not doing that. When told something was not GA ready and would take a huge amount of work to get to GA, Oakley77 then basically said "I don't want you as a mentor anymore", found a new mentor (where he failed to explain his sanctions), required a lot of clean up work after that person helped him and with the article STILL not ready, nominated the article as an IP address. I don't think Oakley77 is ready now. Maybe in a few months, after reading a lot of quality articles and not editing, Oakley77 will begin to see what quality content is and how to properly interact with it. --LauraHale (talk) 01:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I understand. I will read up on articles, and focus on their content. A mentor still would be nice though, if anyone is willing to be one for me. I will comply with what you say, and suggest. Thanks alot! Oakley77 (talk) 01:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

You are blocked; there is no need for a mentor. Also note that if we catch you using a sock again (and we're pretty good at catching this sort of thing), it will decrease your chances of a successful appeal. --Rschen7754 01:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Right, I never will use one again (unless of course I ever am running a bot, which is unlikely). Rschen7754, you have provided me with much helpful advice, and I am thankful for that. I would greatly benefit, and in turn Misplaced Pages would, if you could just simply outline the steps you would take if you were me. It would be immensely beneficial. Oakley77 (talk) 02:01, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

1. Wait six months. Don't click the edit button during that time.
2. Read quality articles on Misplaced Pages. Try to improve your writing skills in general. User:Tony1 has some good tips on writing in his userspace; I'm sure there are others on and off Misplaced Pages.
3. Read the MOS. Read WP:WIAGA and all pages it links to.
4. After six months, follow the steps at WP:OFFER and {{2nd chance}}.
5. If you are unblocked, there will be strings attached. You will probably still be under the same topic ban. Don't violate it, or you will be blocked again, and that time you will probably not have a successful appeal. --Rschen7754 02:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

• Could I al the very least see a list of the stubs Anna wants me to work on? Oakley77 (talk) 18:12, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
• Maybe a possible trial run, one that only permits me to work on the assigned stub, can not only be helpful to Misplaced Pages but can show my competence. Is that a viable proposal? Oakley77 (talk) 23:35, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 July newsletter

We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)