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My apologies
Hi Wehwalt,
I am really sorry for responding after 2 months. I was caught up in some work that is why couldn't work on the Jinnah article. I have corrected the lead paragraph and removed all the references from it and placed them in the body where they could have been used. There are some tags added in the article about which I haven't yet found any references. I had also raised this concern on the talk page about 20 days ago but I think that other editors also couldn't find any WP:RS. You can take a look at the article whenever you find some time and let me know if you think of any additional changes which should be made to it. I really appreciate your help :)
Thank you
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 19:57, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- OK, let me refresh my memory. I still have the JSTOR articles on my laptop. I just got home after a lengthy trip, it may take me a day or two to catch up.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:14, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
So is there any more work that you think should be done on Jinnah? I have also adjusted the images a bit as they were scattered all over the article. Some work on the citations has to be done and I am still working on that. Any more suggestions?
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 11:47, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- I went to the library and got a book, so I need to look it over. I'll try to get to it today.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:48, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. That's great. Thanks a lot.
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 13:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)- I am notoriously slow, I am afraid, and my current article is giving me fits.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:58, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- I would start with the lede. The first paragraph is generally fine. However, after that, I would, in the remainder of the lede, go through Jinnah's life chronologically, at least the highlights, while of course concentrating on what he is best known for, his leading the Muslim League and advocating establishment of Pakistan, his role as GG in independent Pakistan, then what he is remembered for.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not thrilled about the style of referencing. Would you be willing to talk with my technical guru, User:Br'er Rabbit about the article? Also, I think you should merge the criticism section into the other sections of the article.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- I would start with the lede. The first paragraph is generally fine. However, after that, I would, in the remainder of the lede, go through Jinnah's life chronologically, at least the highlights, while of course concentrating on what he is best known for, his leading the Muslim League and advocating establishment of Pakistan, his role as GG in independent Pakistan, then what he is remembered for.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am notoriously slow, I am afraid, and my current article is giving me fits.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:58, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. That's great. Thanks a lot.
Okay. I'll leave a message on Br'er Rabbit's talk page. As for simply merging the section of criticism into the whole article, I was thinking of upgrading it by changing the heading to Personality and public image as mentioned in the article of Richard Nixon and by adding the image of Jinnah as a whole instead of just leaving negative comments in the section. But you are a better judge for what's right for getting the article to a FA status, I just thought to share my opinion.
Thanks
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 12:04, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- I spoke with Br'er and he's happy to help improve the references. Always a good idea to have a section for those things that made the person memorable, but which don't fit easily into a chronological recounting. My current article is Joseph Foraker, I am planning a section "Views and oratory" which will have much the same purpose. The book I got is the Wolpert one btw.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:10, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Is it Jinnah of Pakistan? I have tried numerous times to get my hands on this book but was unable to find it in the libraries. Legacy section does need little work as Wolpert's quote has been mentioned there and is without a page reference. As for the heading, "Views and oratory" is also a good one. Br'er Rabbit has also started working on the article so I think it would be in a better condition soon.
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 09:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)- I have removed all the unsourced material from the article and have also placed them separately on the talk page so that one can easily see what sentences I have removed and if someone is having any RS, he can add them back.
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 10:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)- Yes that is the book. It will probably be a few days before I am ready to do much work on it, I want to wrap up Foraker first.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- That's great. You can take your time on the Foraker article. In the meanwhile I'll try to finish everything else in the Jinnah article.
Thanks!!!
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 17:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- That's great. You can take your time on the Foraker article. In the meanwhile I'll try to finish everything else in the Jinnah article.
- Yes that is the book. It will probably be a few days before I am ready to do much work on it, I want to wrap up Foraker first.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I have removed all the unsourced material from the article and have also placed them separately on the talk page so that one can easily see what sentences I have removed and if someone is having any RS, he can add them back.
- Is it Jinnah of Pakistan? I have tried numerous times to get my hands on this book but was unable to find it in the libraries. Legacy section does need little work as Wolpert's quote has been mentioned there and is without a page reference. As for the heading, "Views and oratory" is also a good one. Br'er Rabbit has also started working on the article so I think it would be in a better condition soon.
Hi Wehwalt,
I saw some of your edits on Jinnah article. Thanks for the help. Though I have noticed some edits, that you told me earlier shouldn't be in a feature article, made by some editors. Like you told me that a reader doesn't care what Jinnah said. Like these Saying 1, Founding of Pakistan, Jinnah's vision for Pakistan and Governor General. Similarly there shouldn't be any citations in the lead paragraph (like the one used in first line). I have a lot of books written by known authors of Pakistan on Jinnah, using them I can put more information but there are already a lot of problems which need to be rectified first. So if you suggest I should remove some sayings of Jinnah, I will and raise the issue on the talk page as I think it's already been a long time and by now, it should have attained a FA status.
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 15:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- I figured the lede could be cleaned up later. I am reading the Wolpert book and will be back at the article once I've done. I'll be more effective in editing it with better knowledge of Jinnah's life. While I am a reasonably well-informed person, I will confess to not knowing all the details! I agree that it is not wise to have excessive quotations from him, but a few well-chosen ones will help the reader grasp him as a person. I am sorry it took so long but I didn't finish Foraker until a few days ago.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:08, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- I have come across a lot of editors here. Trust me, you are the best one I know and I truly respect the way you work. Working so much on getting the articles to a featured article status and simultaneously handling every editor with respect, believe me it's amazing. You don't need to be sorry. :) Frankly speaking this is my first time getting an article up for FA, so I am quite excited for it and you are the best editor/guide I know. That is why I seek and tend to follow your every advice on the subject. You can take your time to read the book. I'll try to clean up the article as much as I can on my own behalf. Once you are ready, you can let me know if you want me to make any additional changes. I'll be happy to help.
Thank you
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 20:09, 1 August 2012 (UTC)- I would wait, if I were you. I've already seen stuff I think should be rewritten. I think the article needs to be more chronological than it is (I'm up to 1928 and his separation from his second wife). Thanks for the praise, I'm starting to agree with you, this article needs to be better than it is. I am also going to call in my image guy on that passport image and see if he can do it as a 2x2 rather than having the four pages in a row like that.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- You are right. Some stuff in the article needs to be rewritten. I'll wait then, till you finish the book. Just drop me a message whenever you feel that I should come. And yeah, the passport does has an irregular kind of shape.
--Inlandmamba (talk to me) 21:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- You are right. Some stuff in the article needs to be rewritten. I'll wait then, till you finish the book. Just drop me a message whenever you feel that I should come. And yeah, the passport does has an irregular kind of shape.
- I would wait, if I were you. I've already seen stuff I think should be rewritten. I think the article needs to be more chronological than it is (I'm up to 1928 and his separation from his second wife). Thanks for the praise, I'm starting to agree with you, this article needs to be better than it is. I am also going to call in my image guy on that passport image and see if he can do it as a 2x2 rather than having the four pages in a row like that.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- I have come across a lot of editors here. Trust me, you are the best one I know and I truly respect the way you work. Working so much on getting the articles to a featured article status and simultaneously handling every editor with respect, believe me it's amazing. You don't need to be sorry. :) Frankly speaking this is my first time getting an article up for FA, so I am quite excited for it and you are the best editor/guide I know. That is why I seek and tend to follow your every advice on the subject. You can take your time to read the book. I'll try to clean up the article as much as I can on my own behalf. Once you are ready, you can let me know if you want me to make any additional changes. I'll be happy to help.
Ryan
So much for my ambition re: Al Davis. I guess it'll be a slow moving project. Anyway, I'm thinking about giving Rex another go at FAC. Thoughts? -- The Writer 2.0 18:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- There's no hurry on that. I've temporarily back burnered it anyway. What I would suggest on Ryan is to bring in someone like Giants2008 who can give it a dispassionate, neutral outside look.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:48, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- Well I pulled the trigger and I'm giving it another go after consulting Giants and Eagles. If you have some time, I would appreciate your input. -- The Writer 2.0 17:22, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- Certainly, I shall find time shortly.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:24, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- Well I pulled the trigger and I'm giving it another go after consulting Giants and Eagles. If you have some time, I would appreciate your input. -- The Writer 2.0 17:22, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Louis Riel (comics) FAC
Hi! Mark Arsten recommend that I ask you to take a look at Louis Riel (comics) (which is up for FAC), as you've brought John A.'s article to FA. Would you be interested in taking the time to look it over? CüRlyTüRkeyContribs 23:03, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, but it may take a few days. I have much promised and little done.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:05, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Peer review
I have unveiled Reginald Heber at peer review. It's one of my remedial exercises, to get over the stresses and strains of the Wagner family, quite untopical and guaranteed to raise the ire of those who think FA subjects must be popular. I don't think he'll gain much attention - I very much doubt that you'll have heard of him - but I'll be pleased if you can find time to look the article over. Brianboulton (talk) 11:27, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- I shall. I have not heard of him, but one of the pleasures of Misplaced Pages is stretching one's mind into new areas. Thank you for your promptness with the Senate article; I will nom it in a day or so once I look it over to make sure everything is as basic as it can be under the circumstances.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:33, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, still working on Pres. Nixon and Supreme Court
Hi Wehwalt,
I'm still working, want to include at least some details about Carswell and other nominees. Might take some time.
On an unrelated note, any chance you might have some interest in concussion, post-concussion syndrome, football? FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 18:20, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- No, not too interested in that topic, I'm afraid. But one of us will get to Nixon.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Avery Brundage
I just noticed Category:Athletics US NC champions templates. I recall he was a three time national champion. You may want to look for a template with his name on it or create one from this source. I just created templates for Tora Harris and Augie Wolf. It takes me about an hour and a half to make each one after getting all the dabs straight.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- I will look at it. The all-around seems have to gotten short shrift on Misplaced Pages.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- I may have to research this. He won no individual events. I will have to find a list of all-around champions.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Joseph Foraker
I noticed some time ago you changed the name of Joseph B. Foraker to Joseph Foraker, with note that it was the more frequent search term. Re-directs would take care of that issue. I think the article should have the middle initial, as he always signed his name that way, and his autobiography used his middle name. Others seem to have always addressed him with the middle name or initial.
Roseohioresident (talk) 21:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- OK, I'll switch it back. Any thoughts on the article?--Wehwalt (talk) 21:58, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- Seems factual and documented. That's all I look for.
Roseohioresident (talk) 21:31, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
- Seems factual and documented. That's all I look for.
Wtshymanski at it again
I saw your post in 2011 at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive690#Wtshymanski failing to work collaboratively. Now he's at it again with an AfD for Switched-mode power supply applications. Electron9 (talk) 03:02, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
- I glanced at it. I really don't have a lot of time to take a major role in this, but I will be glad to follow and weigh in if appropriate at any discussion.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
- Help me keep the article? ;-) Just thinks he wastes the editors time with this annoying merge, delete and remove tactics. Electron9 (talk) 03:26, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'll put the discussion on my watchlist,--Wehwalt (talk) 03:29, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
- Help me keep the article? ;-) Just thinks he wastes the editors time with this annoying merge, delete and remove tactics. Electron9 (talk) 03:26, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
You've got mail!
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You can haz mail, nao? Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC) 02:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
FYI
- Seems to be closed.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Stephens City Article (Part: One Billion)
In reference to the email I sent you yesterday, this is the sentence about Virgil E. Watson I added (with source) to the Stephens City article. I am just a little concerned about it just being a two sentence paragraph (if it can even be called one). I am unsure if it can be joined into another paragraph in that section or not since they are all about different subjects. What do you think? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's probably OK where it is, I didn't see any way to add it logically to one of the other paragraphs in the section. You could add it, if you wanted, to the end of the first paragraph of the Demographics section, though in that case I would begin it "The first African American on the town council ..." rather than with the date, though still include the date. It's editor judgment, I don't see a major issue either way.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:47, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- OK, I will leave it where it is in the "History" section. Seems better there, I was just worried about the paragraph problem. Thanks! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Foraker
Done - I autotraced it this time to match the penstroke texture. Sorry for the wait. – Connormah (talk) 05:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for that.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Asking for help....
My new friend, Wehwalt, I am Tamravidhir. I recently nominated Tourism in West Bengal for FA but it was declined, I have a to-do list here and here...I request you to help me. Please help me. When replying please leave me a Tb template. Thank you so much! --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 13:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- I have been in touch with User:Moonriddengirl and more others..and they have been really helpful. However, they are packed up with their own to-do list so Moonriddengirl asked me to come to you. --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 13:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- As I do not know anything about the subject matter, I do not think I could be of help to you. Try the next one down the list?--Wehwalt (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- ) --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 15:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's generally not a good idea to take some from B to FAC. First take it through WP:GAC and then WP:PR PumpkinSky talk 16:36, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- ) --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 15:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- As I do not know anything about the subject matter, I do not think I could be of help to you. Try the next one down the list?--Wehwalt (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Some baklava for you!
You know why today was heart-warming! PumpkinSky talk 02:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC) |