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GOCE July drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up Participation: Out of 45 people who signed up this drive, 31 have copy-edited at least one article. Lfstevens continues to carry most of the weight, having edited 360 articles and over a quarter of a million words already. Thanks to all who have participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, will be available early in August here. Progress report: We are once again very close to achieving in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog. Only 35 such articles remain at press time. The total backlog currently sits at under 2400 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We are just two articles away from completing all requests made before July 2012 (both are in progress). Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, you'll be able to submit your best copy-editing work for palaver, praise, and prizes. See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.

Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the #wikimedia-office IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

ConnectBlue

I think we have to assume good faith, although it seems to have taken the user some time to take on board what is required. If he/she can't keep away from COI edits, the block can always be restored. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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Dragon Keepers AfD

Hi Seraphimblade

Since fantasy is one of my interests, you can park a copy of the article as a sub-page to my user page. Tag it as a user draft; I'll keep an eye on sources and if it does become notable within the next 6 to 12 months I'll submit it again. Thanks! David_FLXD (Talk) 17:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Done, you can find it at User:David FLXD/Dragon Keepers. Seraphimblade 17:32, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! David_FLXD (Talk) 07:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

SOPA Page Dispute

The page has been locked with my edit in place. I believe the community would only benefit from you and others being more educated on the topic and PIPA before making edits on SOPA's page that asserts distorted opinion from one person as fact.

71.10.60.130 (talk) 18:52, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

You're certainly welcome to discuss the matter on the article's talk page. You'll need to provide reliable sources that back your assertions, but if you have such, it would certainly be beneficial to review them. I've already started a thread on the talk page, please feel free to join in! Seraphimblade 19:21, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Are you saying I need to provide reliable sources saying that something is _not_ so? It is your job to prove your point, my argument is that your 'reliable source' that apparently justifies calling SOPA PIPA is just a statement of opinion rather than fact. Perhaps you should reassess who the burden of proof rests on now. VIIMach (talk) 05:19, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Once again, please hold the discussion on the article talk page, not here, so that other editors can weigh in as well. Seraphimblade 07:39, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for posting on Jimbo Wales page. Wuld you clarify something for me? I was planning to start a new user name. I have no doubt that I will edit well because I didi so before. After a few weeks, I am willing to clear up the ban. To do so now is a whole lot of red tape. Are you ok with this plan? I am also willing to check in with you occasionally. With your guidance now, I pledge not to do anything to cause you embarrassment. 8.18.145.160 (talk) 22:38, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

You're still not listening. I need to know who you edited as before I can make any type of informed comment. If you won't tell me that, I don't have the information necessary to answer your query, and still decline to do so. Seraphimblade 07:42, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about the warn

Sorry about the warning... Playing Whack-a-mole with this guy and hit warn after your revert. Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 03:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

No troubles at all, I've been known to hit a wrong button or two myself. :) Seraphimblade 03:23, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Dispute regarding Renault Espace article

For several days now I am engaged in a "discussion" or so with ‎Special:Contributions/212.64.167.232, concerning the production of the Renault Espace. He claims that it went out of production, but all sources I've found do not say anything about that. I left messages asking to know where he obtained information in his talk page, and opened a discussion in the article talk page. He continues to ignore me. I requested a third party opinion to avoid WP:EW , but seems unlikely it have much effect. He also tries to make the same change in the Template:Renault, but does not give its sources either. I do not know if he's right or not, but again, I wonder myself where he get his version.

In short, what are the steps I should take to address this problem if I get no response from him? Thanks.Urbanoc (talk) 04:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Continue to cite sources that demonstrate you are correct, and of course be willing to review any sources the opposing editor provides if they state otherwise. If the third opinion does not solve the issue, and you and the other editor cannot come to agreement, post at the dispute resolution noticeboard or file a request for comment. If the other editor disputes the reliability of the source, the reliable sources noticeboard may also be helpful. Seraphimblade 07:54, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I will put more sources proving my point and I hope he will present his own instead of just deleting my edits. Urbanoc (talk) 23:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

deletion: iMDsoft article

Hi Seraphimblade I did read your G11 section and the G11 policy of Misplaced Pages, but am still confused as the article was really not promotional imo ! I would love to hear from you what should be done differenlty to avoid deletion in terms of writing. And please dont tell me the article should be neutral, as the article was neutral ;) oh and last but not least why couldnt the deletion be discussed befor going to action? so many question, really sorry, just want to learn to do things right and avoid deleted work ! Best Alinette — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alinette (talk • contribs) 08:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Terms like "leading provider", "flagship family of solutions" (or the godawful "solutions" term in general for that matter), "strong international presence", and many other marketese terms, use of trademark symbols (we don't use those), the "journals" section that essentially was an endorsement list, and so on, made the article read like a glossy marketing brochure. The whole thing read in a very boosterish/advertising tone. Its tone was not anywhere near neutral for the above reason. Sorry if you didn't want to hear that, it's the case anyway. I see the same type of issues at Keter Plastic, which you wrote, as well. Please carefully review our conflict of interest guidelines, as it distinctly looks like you're being paid to write these. Seraphimblade 09:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Seraphimblade Thanks for your detailed reply, so i guess its not the content itself but how the content was presented which is an issue (pls correct me if im wrong!). trying to learn and understand. and nope, i wish i got paid for that lol! best alinette — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alinette (talk • contribs) 10:49, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Seraphimblade I have worked on the iMDsoft article according your tips, and would like to check if its ok before uploading it - should i use the talk page?! are you willing to check it ;) oh and im also trying to adjust the keter article... lets make stuff correct !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alinette (talk • contribs) 19:07, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The best way to do it would be to place it on a userspace subpage, such as User:Alinette/IMDSoft. Make sure not to include any nonfree images (such as a nonfree logo) in your userspace draft, since those are only allowed in mainspace after the article is moved there. If you like, you can use something like File:Example.jpg to indicate where the logo (or any other image) would go and how it would be sized, if you'd like to preserve formatting that way. And yes, I'd be happy to give you feedback on it. Seraphimblade 19:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Troubles AE

Hi there. I was impressed (from my position as March the guilty bastard in, Sergeant-Major defendant) with your comments on the 1RR complaint brought against me by User:One_Night_In_Hackney. He has now raised yet another Troubles-related 1RR, albeit on an article about islamist terrorism in London, and I think that with your existing knowledge of the situation you would be a valuable contributor to this case. Thanks. --FergusM1970 04:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)