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== Ethnicity ==

Every source used in the article to mention the perpetrators' ethnicity states that they were Latvian. Not a single source asserts that they were Jews. Despite this, one recently-created account has repeatedly removed their description as "Latvian", adding an unsourced assertion that they were "Jewish immigrants". This has been accompanied with the edit summaries that "They were not Latvian" "Latvia did not yet exist", though it doesn't seem to occur to the editor that by the same logic they should not be described as Jews either. The editor's behaviour is more disturbing when it is noted that all of their other edits consist of reverting my own edits, and adding unsuppported or weakly-supported ascriptions of Jewish ethnicity to other historical figures. Can we please put a stop to this game of "Hunt the Jew", and stick with reliably-sourced information? <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 13:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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Bias

The article is biased against the anarchists.

First of all were they actually anarchists?

Second,is it really a given who their leaders were, or if they had any at all? Typically, the press as well as the police always need there to be a "leader" for the sake of a story.

I doubt I would be the 1st one posting this if we were talking about a "gang of christians" and "the christians" the did this or that.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.129.161.251 (talk) 2006-10-11T18:15:44

The article now correctly describes the burglars as Latvian revolutionaries. Several, if not all, were supporters of the Social Democrats, who at that time and in that place, were revolutionaries.
At the time of the Seige they were referred to as anarchists, I believe because of revolutionary literature discovered by police and because some frequented an anarchist club in the area. Marshall46 15:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Biased against anarchists? is that meant to be a joke? These people were certainly anarchists, and for their actions they deserve no sympathy.

Did I understand it correctly, they were killed without being offered to surrender? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.35.137.89 (talk) 14:29, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Robert Bentley

Robert Bentley was my great great (maybe great great great) Uncle, and this whole story absolutely fascinates me —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.33.16.99 (talk) 15:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

Assessment

An excellent article, has everything for a B class except references! Needs footnotes, or specific reference links rather than external links, to get a B. Great work though, good images. SGGH 16:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Conflict of Information

There appears to be a confict in the information towards the end of the 'Hounsditch Murders' Section. In the second last paragraph is says that Tucker died almost instantly but a little further down it claims he died later that day in hospital. It could do with being researched a bit, or maybe rewritten for clarity?Violentbob (talk) 08:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the hospital reference should read "Bentley" rather than "Tucker" - I'll check my copy of Rumbelow when I get home tonight. Nick Cooper (talk) 12:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


There is a similar conflict with Churchill's hat. One paragraph refers to newsreel footage of the bullet hitting it, the next states that never happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 03:51, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Irrelevant propaganda removed

Tonight I removed meaningless and under-referenced statements about the death of a constable while on active duty, from the Siege of Sidney Street section of this article.

Specifically, these words and references:

(on his wedding anniversary — his wife had also given birth to a baby boy on the previous Wednesday).

Get your facts straight and clear before you post, people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.65.180 (talk) 04:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Ethnicity

Every source used in the article to mention the perpetrators' ethnicity states that they were Latvian. Not a single source asserts that they were Jews. Despite this, one recently-created account has repeatedly removed their description as "Latvian", adding an unsourced assertion that they were "Jewish immigrants". This has been accompanied with the edit summaries that "They were not Latvian" "Latvia did not yet exist", though it doesn't seem to occur to the editor that by the same logic they should not be described as Jews either. The editor's behaviour is more disturbing when it is noted that all of their other edits consist of reverting my own edits, and adding unsuppported or weakly-supported ascriptions of Jewish ethnicity to other historical figures. Can we please put a stop to this game of "Hunt the Jew", and stick with reliably-sourced information? RolandR (talk) 13:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

  1. The Houndsditch Atrocity: The Late Police Sergeant Bentley 24 December 1910 in the genealogical records of the Goddard family. The Folkestone local newspaper from which the material is drawn is not identified. The details are also recounted in The First Birthday. Baby Who Was Born A Few Days After His Father Was Shot, in the Daily Mirror on the first anniversary of the incident.
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