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WP:ARBR&I

Hi TrevlyanL85A2. ArbCom is aware that you are a real life friend of Ferahgo-the-Assassin. By editing in the area of the topic ban imposed on her and Captain Occam in the above case, your editing will probably be viewed as a means for them to bypass their ban through others. Another editor in the same situation is SightWatcher. In both cases, your real life identities are known by arbitrators. The simplest thing is for you to stop editing in that area. Appearing out of the blue with a campaign against a single editor looks particularly bad. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 02:37, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

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WP:ARBR&I

I realize you're probably aware of this as you know editors who've been topic banned, but if you're interested in actively editing in the topic area, you might wish to review the WP:ARBR&I case, as well as the amendments to the discretionary sanctions: . Constructive editing is always welcome. aprock (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. I understand this is a contentious topic area and I hope to work constructively with you and others. --TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 18:24, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

You have left links on your user page which identify you unambiguously in real life. You are a real life friend of Ferahgo the Assassin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who is indefinitely topic banned under WP:ARBR&I. A former arbitrator, Shell Kinney, has already verified this a long while back. If you continue editing tendentiously in this topic area (for example, your refusal to use sources), it is highly likely, per WP:MEAT, that the same topic ban currently applied to Captain Occam and your real life friend Ferahgo the Assassin will be applied to you. More than that, in fact: you could possibly all be community banned for a long term campaign of willful deception. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 22:08, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I was under the impression you were asked by Arbcom to drop this. --TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 06:02, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Then you are mistaken. From what I was told by Shell Kinney, ArbCom decided that problems with your editing would be dropped, provided your account (and that of Sightwatcher) stayed clear of articles connected with the topic bans of Ferhago the Assassin and Captain Occam. That does not seem to be the case now. You are involved in blatant meatpuppetry. Mathsci (talk) 06:10, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Nor is it a particularly good idea to bring your friend Ferahgo the Assassin into this, as you have just done. Your editing should simply stay completely outside the area of their topic ban. As you will see on WP:AE, it is now properly acknowledged that the issues of disruptive sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry are taken seriously in WP:ARBR&I. And it never seems to stop. For example Mikemikev just this week. His sockpuppet 스토킹 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is now indefinitely blocked. Why is your editing in this area any less problematic than that of Mikemikev? Mathsci (talk) 06:16, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

No, he is not mistaken.

February, Roger Davies asked you to leave it to uninvolved editors to bring it up if someone's editing is a problem.

April, Risker told you clearly to disengage.

September, Roger Davies and Cool Hand Luke both told you to disengage. From my understanding, the only reason you weren't given an interaction ban is because the arbitrators were confident you would follow their advice.

And finally, less than two weeks ago you were formally warned by Jclemens to stop bringing up off-wiki evidence against other editors. You are clearly disregarding all of this advice.

TrevelyanL85A2 didn't bring me into this; you did, as soon as you mentioned my name. I can't believe you're still bringing me up on Misplaced Pages after all this time. Over the past year or so I've put a lot of effort into contributing my skills and knowledge to other areas of Misplaced Pages, and in developing a history here that is separate and distinct from the topic that unfortunately caused us to cross paths. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue bringing up my name on Misplaced Pages, and treating other editors poorly because you associate them with me. This absolutely needs to stop.

Please, Mathsci. You need to make an effort to assume good faith here and just let it drop so we can all move on. I really don't want to, but if you aren't willing to agree to stop (or if you just ignore this request), I will be forced to take the matter back to an amendment and push for that interaction ban. If you can't voluntarily let this go, I doubt that anything short of an interaction ban will put a stop to this. Can you answer me simply: will you please leave this alone and stop mentioning me & Occam on Misplaced Pages? -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 07:56, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I received several emails from Shell Kinney, which you are not privy to, which confirmed the identification of TrevelyanL85A2. It does not seem like a very wise move for you to be lobbying for your confirmed friends to edit in the exact area of your topic ban. I can see no difference at all between the edits of Mikemikev and TrevelyanL85A2. Both accounts are breaking topic bans set by ArbCom. Captain Occam already has spent a considerable amount of time wikilawyering on WP:AE both when a topic ban was proposed for Miradre and later during the subsequent appeal. That was an immense waste of time. I cannot see where good faith enters here: in this particular case TrevelyanL85A2 self identifies as a friend of yours. Since the area covered by WP:ARBR&I is rife with meatpuppets and sockpuppets, I doubt very much that any administrators or arbitrators would be sympathetic with measures which you (and previously Captain Occam) seek to put in place, the only result of which would be to make it easier for sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry to go undetected. Before WP:ARBR&I, there was no history of serial sockpuppetry in the topic area (apart from the easily recognizable sockpuppets of Muntuwandi). Since the close of that case, things have been very different. Mathsci (talk) 09:25, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

The possibility of a topic ban on R&I is being discussed in WP:AE#Ferahgo_the_Assassin. I am not sure if you were already aware of this. --Enric Naval (talk) 17:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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This is to inform you that you have today been added as a party to the above arbitration case and that there are findings and remedies concerning you, to which you may wish to respond.  Roger Davies 23:39, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

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The arbitration review of the Race and Intelligence case has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above.

The following remedies have been enacted:

1. Mathsci (talk · contribs) is admonished for engaging in battlefield conduct
2. Ferahgo the Assassin (talk · contribs) and Captain Occam (talk · contribs) are site-banned from Misplaced Pages for a period of no less than one year. After one year has elapsed, a request may be made for the ban to be lifted. Any such request must address all the circumstances which lead to this ban being imposed and demonstrate an understanding of and intention to refrain from similar actions in the future.
3. SightWatcher (talk · contribs) is indefinitely banned from editing and/or discussing the topic of Race and Intelligence on any page of Misplaced Pages, including user talk pages, or from participating in any discussion concerning the conduct of editors who have worked in the topic. This editor may however within reason participate in dispute resolution and noticeboard discussions if their own conduct has been mentioned.
4. TrevelyanL85A2 (talk · contribs) is indefinitely banned from editing and/or discussing the topic of Race and Intelligence on any page of Misplaced Pages, including user talk pages, or from participating in any discussion concerning the conduct of editors who have worked in the topic. This editor may however within reason participate in dispute resolution and noticeboard discussions if their own conduct has been mentioned.

For the Arbitration Committee,

--Guerillero | My Talk 02:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and intelligence/Review

Resolved by motion at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment that:

FoF 2.5 in the Race and intelligence review be amended to read: Mathsci has engaged in borderline personal attacks and frequent battleground conduct.

For the Arbitration Committee,

-- Lord Roem (talk) 06:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Advice

Some advice you may like to consider in the aftermath of the R&I review. FtA was given similar advice but chose not to take it, and everything predicted in that message has happended. Anyway, I suggest that you consider simply dropping your current user name, adopting a new one with no references to external identities and continue editing as before under the new name. You should not make any kind of link between them on-wiki, but equally it would be imperative that you privately communicate the link to AC and assure them that you intend to respect the restrictions applicable to your current name while they are in force. Assure AC that you reject the imputations of proxy-editing in the past and give them your assurance that you will be sure not to do anything of the kind in the future. Make it clear that you would regard continued oppositional research and linking your old and new usernames on the pretext of finding or holding evidence on-wiki as harassment. Good luck. 94.197.162.237 (talk) 10:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Enforcement

You have violated your topic ban. I have requested enforcement at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#TrevelyanL85A2. You may review and comment, as you may "within reason participate in dispute resolution and noticeboard discussions if their own conduct has been mentioned." Hipocrite (talk) 10:25, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#TrevelyanL85A2 Nobody Ent 21:47, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Blocked

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• Your edit here violates your topic ban. MastCell  22:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

TrevelyanL85A2 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Reason given below. This is an AE block, so I'd like my appeal to please be posted at AE for review. If possible, I'd like the two other editors involved in the dispute that led to my block (Nyttend and Collect) to also be notified. TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 04:51, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Procedural decline as this wasn't really an unblock request. Your appeal has been copied to WP:AE. Seraphimblade 07:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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Arbitration enforcement action appeal by TrevelyanL85A2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Appeal declined at WP:AE: . MastCell  19:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Page protection

As this page has been the subject of edit-warring over a banned editor's comments, I've protected it for the remainder of the WP:AE block. The block appeal has been declined at WP:AE, and further appeals (if any) can be submitted via email to unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org, to the Arbitration Committee via email, or to an individual Arbitrator via email. MastCell  19:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

FYI

Hello. You have broken your topic ban in a very serious way. I have filed a report at WP:AE. Please respond there a.s.a.p. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 19:56, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Further ArbCom requests

Just letting you know that, regardless of the outcome at AE, I do intend to make a request regarding your situation and so you should avoid the temptation to do it yourself. Gonna be occupied for the next week though, so I will not be doing anything major like that until then.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 15:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

That's fine.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 03:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Before I proceed, I would like to know if you object to me sending the e-mail to members of ArbCom should it be raised as an issue. Allowing me to clear up what was sent to me in case I am accused of proxying would be reassuring.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 17:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Request for amendment

I have made a request to amend the ARBR&I case regarding the restriction against you. Given the nature of the restriction, I would ask that you avoid commenting unless it is requested by an Arb.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 22:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

An Arb has requested your response to a question. For your own sake, and to minimize disruption, I suggest that you limit your response strictly to what is being asked of you directly by the Arb. It is better if you stay out of the unfolding drama.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 18:11, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Request for amendment

Hello, TrevelyanL86A2. You are invited to respond to some questions posted by Arbitrator Roger Davies on the Request for Amendment concerning the Race and intelligence arbitration case.

For the Arbitration Committee's Clerk Team, Lord Roem (talk) 22:14, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Understanding that you were asked to comment, I feel you should all the same remove from your statement any allegations that are not strictly limited to what was asked by Roger. Specifically, I think everything after "I would object much less if it were done by an uninvolved admin" should be removed.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 06:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to see how Roger Davies responds to what I said first. If he thinks my statement is unhelpful, I'll remove part of it as you suggested. However, I think I can read some things between the lines of his question that go beyond what he asked directly. His question to you suggests that he thinks Mathsci has no responsibility for this situation, and all that's going on is our fault. The new suggestion from Newyorkbrad indicates the same attitude, that everyone but Mathsci is the problem, because of us restoring Echigo Mole's posts in our user talk pages.

I appreciate the advice you've given me throughout this situation, but I also want it to be resolved. And I think that just restricting all of us from restoring Echigo Mole's posts in our user talk won't do anything to address the underlying problem. Mathsci's attention to me has completely sapped my energy to edit articles here, and I don't think restricting us from restoring Echigo Mole's posts will solve that. I don't know if I can get the arbitrators to understand the part of the problem for which Mathsci is responsible, but I want to try.--TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 18:45, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, you are topic-banned from R&I. You're not supposed to be restoring these posts. To be honest, you're lucky you weren't blocked for violating your topic-ban. The only thing that I have issue with this affair is why MathSci can't simply notify an uninvolved party to remove them. It seems to me that a lot of drama could have been avoided by simply asking someone else to remove them.

How about this for a novel solution? The next time a banned editor posts something to your page, why not delete it yourself with an edit summary of "Sorry, I'm topic-banned from discussing this"? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually, of the comments in question, only one directly pertained to R&I and it was a suggestion for a fully legit clean start following the topic ban. I do not think Trev's restoration of those comments in any way constituted a violation of the topic ban.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 20:09, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, whatever the violation is, the point is that if TrevelyanL85A2 deletes the posts himself, everyone can avoid a lot of unnecessary drama. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:15, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Mathsci's removing of the posts isn't the only thing I object to. I also object to the other ways he's been trying to provoke me, that Devil's Advocate described here. This whole situation is the problem for me.--TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 21:09, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps the Arbs will consider an interaction ban, I don't know. But what I am saying is that there are two very easy ways to resolve at least this issue:

1. MathSci simply asks an uninvolved admin to remove the posts.
2. You remove the posts yourself.

One of you needs to be the bigger person. There seems to be a lot of drama for a situation that is so easy to resolve. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 23:35, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd prefer if the posts didn't have to be removed at all.  I've always felt anyone should be able to post in my user talk, even socks, as long as they are civil and don't violate any policies.  If ArbCom rules that isn't allowed anymore, as Newyorkbrad suggested, then I might remove the posts myself.  I don't know.  I don't like removing something that I actually think should be able to stay there.--TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 01:17, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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