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Re; original research
Oh the message is through but can you qualify it for me? What EXACTLY is original research? If I want to reference a magazine article or quote from a book or magazine is it enough to provide the link to the magazine homepage or Amazon page or does it require more? Also how can I upload pictures to the articles? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goolcap (talk • contribs) 16:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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CfD nomination of Category:Politics of the British Isles
Category:Politics of the British Isles has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. --RA (talk) 09:00, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
who do you think you are?
Are you the owner of wikipedia?
Grow up! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.6.20 (talk) 15:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Irish Travellers more than just one group?
Looking at the Irish Traveller page I realized that there is no inclusion of Irish Showmen. On the Scottish Traveller page there is a breakdown of the various groups who partially live or historically live within Scotland, including newer arrivals like Irish Pavee and continental Roma. The Irish Traveller page just seems to focus on the wider Pavee community and says very little about the Irish Showmen (Occupational Travellers). Irish Showmen identify with the Traveller label but are not Irish Pavee or speak Sheilta/Gammon. For balance would a short paragraph on the Traveller page (including non Pavee groups in Ireland like the Irish Showmen and Roma) be appropriate as with the Scottish Travellers page? It would cause less confusion to what different groups call themselves within the wider Travelling peoples of Ireland. If you reply could you do so on the Irish Traveller page?Uthican (talk) 05:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- Replied there, as requested. RashersTierney (talk) 08:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Nazi Eugenics edit
Please see:
I was not the only one who questioned this inclusion of this book. I have begun a new discussion on the talk page seeing as how this is from 2009. Ultra Venia (talk) 18:46, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for (re)opening the discussion. I'll give it some thought and reply there. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 14:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Deletion review for Politics in the British Isles
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Politics in the British Isles. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. KarlB (talk) 21:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
AlriRashers?
Fair enough it wasn't that funny but ya still gotta take down that stuff about the name coming from a port, in this case it would be spelled Longphort when its spelled Longford. A longford is a camp or fortification. It was Longfort Uí Fearaill its named for. Dublin is a viking settlement. Longford is pretty damn far from it one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.246.93 (talk) 23:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Still no excuse for pointy edits. RashersTierney (talk) 03:44, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Fooish-born Flooian
There have been many discussions on the matter at WT:FOOTY. My understanding is that, in the case of Leon Best as the example at hand, it is not possible to simply and incontrovertibly describe him as someone who is Irish, but happened to have been born in England. He has two parents, only one of whom is apparently Irish: place of birth also determines, in legal terms, eligibility for citizenship and therefore nationality. Thus his nationality is a complex issue: if his father is/was English, than he is more than simply Irish but born in England; if he was not, then his nationality is even more complex. Personally, I would be happy to apply English-born Irish to those (like myself) who have both parents Irish, and have explicitly and consistently self-identified as Irish, such that place of birth is seen as "in voluntary exile": that distinction has never really gained consensus. Kevin McE (talk) 10:41, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. I agree the issue is not simple. The intention of my edit was not to emphasise nationality as such, but to reference his notability as a player in the Irish squad. (I see where the confusion might have arisen). Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons isn't very satisfactory. This proposal appears to be the best available guide that I have found, which is arguably closer to your interpretation than mine. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 12:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Incorrect picture
Dear Rashers, I write to you as a complete and utterly baffled Newcomer who came across your avatar in a list of the Irish editors, and liked it. (I had Plunkett reading from Strumpet City on the steps of City Hall Dublin in Easter Week 1991, and long ago, produced "The Risen People" with John Molloy playing Rashers.) So not quite a random hit, but a shot in the dark nevertheless.
I only wanted to remove a rather obvious error from an Irish Wiki page, so registered, and then got lost in an overwhelming maze of complex instructions. Perhaps you could do it for me, and with ease?
The offending item is a pic of Sean T O Ceallaigh gracing the page of JJ (Sceilg) O'Kelly. (I'm sure neither would be pleased!) Here's the URL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/John_J._O'Kelly
Perhaps you can let me know if you got this by emailing me: jlst@eircom.net (that's JLST), my avatar here at Wiki is Amergin23. my thanks, John Stephenson.
PS: while I was at it, I attempted the following amendment to Para 3 of the page (Irish history and politics are a lifelong interest), but this somehow failed to go through (boy, do I need guidance!!):
In June 1922, he was elected to the Third Dáil for the constituency of Louth/Meath but abstained from taking his seat. In August 1923, standing as a Republican for the Meath constituency, he was defeated for an abstentionist seat in the 4th Dáil. He was again defeated in the Roscommon by-election of 1925, his last election attempt. After the resignation of Éamon de Valera as president of Sinn Féin in 1926, O'Kelly, who maintained an abstentionist policy towards Dáil Éireann,
My source: http://www.electionsireland.org/candidate.cfm?id=1045
Again thanks, John Amergin23 (talk) 15:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the trouble to do something about the image misidentification and for the kind words. You are quite correct and I have removed it. I also asked the file uploader to add one of Séan S., which is available from this source (second highlighted from the left). I'll have a go myself if I don't hear back fairly soon. I also added the ref to your edit, which seems to have gone through fine. Hope to see more input from you on the project and if I can be of any help, don't hesitate. Regards. RashersTierney (talk) 20:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks
Many thanks for your helpful 'Welcome' response and guide page, Rashers. I'm on holiday, with limited web access, but will get stuck into Wikip in due course. My thanks also for your rapid correction of the 'Sceilg' page, and your kindness in inserting my amendment. (i wonder if the citation ref should be 12 not 4?) I look forward to working with you all, and may well ask you to "adopt" me, if yr open to that. I'll also be joining the Ireland Wiki Project. All in good time.... best wishes, John Stephenson - Amergin 23 (I first tried posting this on your User Talk page, but it wasn't clear to me if it went through.) 90.4.21.77 (talk) 10:14, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- No problem. Don't forget to log in when editing. Doing so helps create your editing history and makes it easier to stay in touch while keeping correspondence together. Enjoy the hols. I haven't ever looked into 'formal adoption', but if there is ever an issue you need help with you need only ask. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 10:33, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
What is your exact source for Hardy being implicated in the three killings?
In regard to The Key I know that you've referenced a book in regard to this but unfortunately my library card is tapped out at the moment (researching Arthur Percival). I've been going through all my other sources and I can find nothing to link Hardy to the killing of Mckee, Clancy and Clune other than he prevented Clancy's first escape attempt, he certainly wasn't one of the Auxillaries who shot them and I can find nothing to suggest he was even interviewed about it. Apparently Hardy completed 2 books about his service in Ireland but I can't find them anywhere, do you know their names? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goolcap (talk • contribs) 10:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- I added this reference. There is also this. These are some books written by Hardy. The third at least makes some mention of the Black and Tans. RashersTierney (talk) 11:00, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Cool thanks. However according to Michael Foy's 'The Intelligence War' this was not the case, he quotes Clune's boss Edward MacLysaght who collected Clune's body and also inspected the others who said their faces were unharmed, repeating his evidence to the inquiry. The idea of them being beaten and executed seems to have been an invention of Erskine Childers who had no way of knowing what really happened. Winter and Anderson conducted their own investigation and were happy with the verdict and Foy makes a good case that they may well have tried to escape. The only people who know the truth were the Auxillaries who killed them and they took it with to them to the grave — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goolcap (talk • contribs) 09:39, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
- Just for your information, and since Foy uses it as a source, MacLysaght's original typed manuscript (NLI Ms 4750) originally read -
- I remember those dead pale faces as if I had looked at them yesterday, They were not seriously disfigured. (my emphasis).
The word 'seriously' was later crossed out by hand and did not appear in his book. MacLysaght is also emphatic that the 'escape' was a fabrication and that the three were murdered. For a first hand account of a prisoner's treatment at the hands of 'Hoppy' Hardy in the guardroom about this time, see On another Man's Wound pp 273-280. RashersTierney (talk) 19:52, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
I can't actually read MacLysaght's manuscript online (are you supposed to be able to? where do I click?) so I'll take your word for it. What proof does he offer for his assertion about the killings, surely he wasn't present? And who crossed out 'seriously' or is that too lost in the mists of time, conspiracy theory and Irish historical academia? (presuming it wasn't MacLysaght himself correcting the text?) As for Ernie O'Malley, hardly an independent or unbiased source, he's prepared to kill for his 'cause' so he'd be prepared to lie? And as he only refers to HIS treatment rather than the incident in question is it relevant? Both Winter and Anderson conducted their own investigations, examining the scene and interviewing the witnesses and were happy with the official account. I'm not saying they couldn't have been arbitarily executed in revenge, it is a real possibility but it's far from conclusive either way. In any case Hardy's involvement seems to be peripheral to say the least. I'll suggest a compromise, 'Hardy was involved in the capture of leading IRA members Clancy and McKee and a civilian called Clune who were later killed in controversial circumstances in Dublin Castle Guardroom'? I've also discovered that the redoubtable Captain King romanced an Irish girl Helen Sophie Gilbert (she is given as born in Dublin) and married her in Rathdown in Oct/Dec 1920 so unless you object I'll include that in the article as it further strengthens the resemblence between King and the character Hardy features in The Key.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Goolcap (talk • contribs) 15:11, 18 June 2012
- The revision was made by MacLysaght, though when and why is anyone's guess. It isn't available online, unfortunately. I think reliable sources vouch for the fact that Hardy was involved in the interrogation of the prisoners at the Castle. As for your 'interpretation' of the novel, that is firmly in the realm of original research. RashersTierney (talk) 17:30, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Interrogation yes and he prevents one of them escaping but that's a long way from saying he was involved in their deaths whether those were justified or not. I take your point on original research but I don't think it applies to simply pointing out the paralells between the fictional character and a real life figure who may have inspired him. If we can accept The Key was inspired by Hardy's experiences in the conflict it's hardly a stretch to think the characters were derived from a 'sword for hire' and intelligence officer he knew? As for MacLysaght perhaps the Republican legend of what happened to them was so deeply ingrained (to provide retro-active justification for Bloody Sunday?) that the recorder couldn't accept what he was saying. Fair play to MacLysaght for insisting on the truth. Goolcap (talk) 07:26, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Why not revise the citation instead of deleting?
A wiki is basically a synthesis of information. Please review my citation, which is a State of Hawaii official document available to anyone online: http://www.courts.state.hi.us/docs/opin_ord/ica/2010/apr/ica28392sdoada.pdf Then instead of deleting every attempt I make to report real citable material, please attempt one contribution yourself. The important facts of the document are 1999-2010 court proceedings between Lee & Young Vs. Brosnan & Smith. Lee & Young asked for their riparian rights to be returned to the original state before Brosnan & Smith created an artificial lake upstream from them. Lee & Young lost. This case is an important precedent for all riparian rights cases in Hawaii, and if Brosnan was an environmentalist he might have considered the precedent he set, instead of only thinking about the artificial lake he needed. I'm not biased either way, please feel free to report the facts any way you see fit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quash-asia (talk • contribs) 03:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- If the issue is as important as you claim "for all riparian rights cases in Hawaii", you should have no difficulty finding reliable secondary sources to back that statement up. Otherwise personal interpretations of primary documents amounts to original research, as has been pointed out to you. 'A wiki may be a synthesis of material', but original research is contrary to policy on Misplaced Pages. RashersTierney (talk) 08:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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romani vs romanian
I write this here as I have no idea where else should I write it. In my mind, when I hear Romani on Italian TV, I find it offensive for me, a Romanian guy. Why? Because when people read it, one can't "hear" the differences (you can't fight the ignorance, but let Misplaced Pages show the clear differences), just like "romani" would be a shortcut of "romania" or "romanian". comment added by conualfy —Preceding undated comment added 21:42, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps give people more credit than that? In any case, Misplaced Pages is a written medium, so the possibility of 'mis-hearing' does not arise. There really is no reason to take 'offense'. RashersTierney (talk) 21:55, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
This is an explanation.
I didn't know AP Dryan was a vandal. As for the response... I must have opened the wrong response box. There is nothing for the administrators to fix.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NoRwEgIaNbAcTeRiUm (talk • contribs) 21:56, 11 July 2012
- I think Feedback dashboard is a very good idea, but responders need to be discerning by checking editing history etc. if it is to have value. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 22:11, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Hoppy Hardy
Thank you for including his photo etc, I was trying but still couldn't figure out how to post his picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goolcap (talk • contribs) 17:21, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- No problem. There is however a serious issue with referencing cairogang.com at this article, as it appears (see TP) that the site is a mirror of the Misplaced Pages article. This is known as circular referencing. RashersTierney (talk) 20:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Your RfC
I saw your post in relation to John Tyndall dispute on the WikiProject Ireland page, as you might be aware of I am restricted from contributing directly and I have no desire to get involved in such a contentious issue with Seanwal111111 for obvious reasons. However I can help point you in the right direction regarding sources for the debate.
References
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15874560
- http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/611577/John-Tyndall
- http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sciencetoday/2011/0922/1224304515089.html
- http://www.siliconrepublic.com/clean-tech/item/23757-irish-scientist-john-tyndal
- http://www.tyndall.ie/content/john-tyndall-0
- http://www.yale.edu/graduateschool/writing/forms/Pre-writing.pdf
- http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Tyndall/tyndall_2.php
- http://books.google.ie/books?id=T5AD2c-CiHQC&pg=PA190&dq=Defenders+of+the+Union:+A+Survey+of+British+and+Irish+Unionism+Since+1801,+John+tyndall&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SQ8AUJ60LoSKhQfM7pH-Bw&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
- http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-fire-strikes-stop-drop-and-sing
- http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227081.500-the-man-who-discovered-greenhouse-gases.html
- Ireland and her people; a library of Irish biography, by Thomas W. H. Fitzgerald
- http://books.google.ie/books?id=e2kW7Ta6Q8wC&pg=PA443&dq=what+about+darwin,+john+tyndall&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tA8AUNTlBYrDhAfpk4CBCA&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=what%20about%20darwin%2C%20john%20tyndall&f=false
- The Cabinet of Irish literature, by Charles Anderson Read, Thomas Power O'Connor
Best of luck to you, just don't make the mistake of getting too involved in it like I did, I paid dearly for my ignorance and short-sightedness. Go néiri an tádh leat. Sheodred (talk) 19:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
De Valera article
Hey!
Me again.
As a newbie, I don't know for sure what I did wrong. The citation I used was accurate EXCEPT I had the publishing date on it (I believe I stated 2000 instead of 2009 - typo). Is that what you are interested in? However, that this source is wholly about the librarian controversy, and the pages in the book document this statement.
Also, the I added the source to the Letitia Dunbar-Harrison page. Again - it is wholly applicable.
Your help is appreciated. I am going to try another edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reflibman (talk • contribs) 22:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- You gave p80 as your source. Page 80 deals with O'Duffy. No mention of the woman in question. Check the page number. Misapplying references is poorly viewed, particularly when it comes to contentious issues. RashersTierney (talk) 22:51, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
O'Connell article
I fail to understand your removal of Kenyon comment. While he may have been upset by the death of his father, his public condemnation of O'Connell has been well documented commencing with the Kilrush meeting of July 1846 right through to the famous letters of June 1847. I believe that such a disapproval by a prominent Catholic Young Ireland priest is quite significient, and worthy of acknowledgement in the creation of a balanced article on Daniel O'Connell. While accepting the fact that he was a great man, he was not universally loved as most commentators would have us think. Did any of the members of Young Ireland publically disagree with Kenyon's statement? No. Meenagh (talk) 00:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- When you imply that a statement had an effect on someone's legacy, you need to back that up. Kenyon had effectively been forgotten by historians until 'discovered' by Tim Boland in the last few years. It appears Kenyon's statement had a much more profound effect on his own legacy than that of O'Connell - "He classed death as a cause of celebration rather than a great loss. Kenyon's actions provoked condemnation from all sides — even from his own colleagues in the Young Ireland movement", and "While several of his actions throughout his life seemed irrational, those during the period after his father's death appear outstandingly so", for which this source is a reference. RashersTierney (talk) 11:29, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps by reading Tim Boland's biography (pp 23-75) you would appreciate the situation more clearly. Online introductions (as cited by you) can surely not be sufficient to make judgement. Quote refers to publication of letter in Nation, not initial letter written to Confederation. As may be seen from the chapters covering the event Kenyon had support from colleagues such as Mitchel, Martin, Lalor and Meagher. His only real'enemy' was Duffy. His colleagues disapproved of the timing of the letters to the Nation, because of the embarassment they may cause, not necessarily their content. Actually, his popularity rose after the event. In April 48 he was elected to the Executive Council with a max of 31 votes, matched only by Meagher. He surpassed all including O'Brien, Duffy and Dillon. Personally I consider his views on O'Connell to be worthy of inclusion, as they represent a view from that era. Why include (greater) political figures from a later period with the benefit of hindsight, while excluding those without such benefits. Those views as expressed in the above mentioned book (and fully and clearly referenced) should be studied before the removal of the piece. But then while I think I have a fair knowledge of Kenyon, perhaps yours is greater and I respect that. I rest my case. I only wanted to contribute to the balance of the article. Meenagh (talk) 16:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello. Anyone home? Meenagh (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Why not raise it at the O'Connell TP if you are unsatisfied with my answer above? RashersTierney (talk) 19:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
My point is that you choose to remove the piece, based on an out of context quote, and a lack ok knowledge of the circumstances surrounding the issue.(I write this without malice and with respect) I have given the facts above that prove without doubt the correctness of my addition. Whether you or I agree with something is irrevelant. The facts stand,and are proven. I ask you (with whatever authority you command), to reinstate the piece. I believe I followed proper procedure. Can I delete additions if I dont like the message? It sounds ridiculous! I am becoming confused by this deletion process. Meenagh (talk) 20:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Reconsidered
- OK. I'll review Boland's book and reply later tomorrow with a considered re-appraisal of my edit. Fair enough? RashersTierney (talk) 20:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes, very fair, and thanks. Meenagh (talk) 20:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Just to recap, this was the addition of yours that I reverted. It was placed in the 'legacy' section of the Daniel O'Connell article. I did it, not because Kenyon's statement was critical, but because I think it was WP:UNDUE, and do not think it had the intended impact on O'Connell's memory. If anything it is apparent to me from Tim Boland's book that Kenyon's letter, reluctantly published in The Nation, more likely had the very opposite effect. Its timing, while funeral arrangements were still being made, provoked John O'Connell into declining a request from the Confederates to attend, making any chance of a subsequent 'united front' impossible. The generally hostile reaction to the letter probably bolstered O'Connell's popular memory because it made more considered and valid criticism much more difficult, certain to invite comparison with Kenyon's outburst. I may have missed some point of Boland's in his detailed, and generally excellent and very interesting book, but I think that is a fair overall impression of the Kenyon/O'Connell legacy issue as presented there. If you still disagree, you are of coarse free to seek the views of other editors at the O'Connell Talk Page, perhaps linking this discussion. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 09:34, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Censorship?
What's the point in going to a talk page? It's not exactly busy, is it? If you have now read Boland's biography, (for which I compliment you for doing in such a short time - it took me weeks) perhaps you missed out on Kenyon's address to the Confederation on 30 August, two months after letter (p 87). His popularity in the reorganisation of the Confederation (143-145), not to mention tributes by Mitchel, Martin, and Charles Gavan Duffy. This surely overrides your 'undue' comment. I am disappointed that Misplaced Pages allows such censorship infringe on its excellent project. For long enough out children were given a one-sided view of Irish history. Why should they think that the great O'Connell was universally loved while he was 'most unloved' by the majority of Young Ireland, an important political force. (See above references.) It is part of our history. In fact, wasn't Young Ireland blamed for 'killing' him. I will now rest my case and wonder at the exclusion of my piece (which was complete with references - thanks to Jim Boland's book,) while so much positive comment in the article goes unreferenced. Right, that's it. I give up. PS Let's hope nobody will try to include Ellen Courtney in the O'Connell family section! Meenagh (talk) 18:08, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Murder of Michaela McAreavey
I'm not sure but in my opinion user Kingroyos is doing biased POV edits on the Murder of Michaela McAreavey article.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:34, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. It appears to be an ill advised 'counter campaign' against a minor local expression of frustration. Cracking a nut with artillery can only make the nut look very important indeed. Hopefully the page will settle down in due coarse. For the moment there is a lot of tabloid rubbish included due to recentism. RashersTierney (talk) 22:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Slovenia
So you said i havent provided a source but the source was the link ( article) southern europe itself that has all the citations to reliable sources also the citations for this dilemma central/southern in the article slovenia thst confirms my point so there was no need to add more citations.Anyway since this is "controversial" issue ill let others decide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.92.65.62 (talk) 10:26, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- What you did was to refactor a referenced statement, basically 'correcting' a factual error relating to the source. I reverted this as 'dubious'; the ref'd claim has stood for some time. A wikilink is not a valid reference as, technically, Misplaced Pages is not a reliable source. I've added a welcome to your Talk Page with links to help you with referencing on Misplaced Pages. The issue in question is controversial, as you say, therefore particular attention should be paid to making sure that references say what is claimed in article text. We don't just change the wording of ref'd text because we personally prefer some alternative.
RashersTierney (talk) 10:53, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- I would like to add that what i was referring to the actual sources of the wikilink in southern europe(United Nations geoscheme,Climatical definition,Phytogeographical definition) in said article .i didnt change with any particular preferece.Anyway thanks for your reply.
Waterford Crystal
why did you delete my edit to Waterford crystal? I only rephrased words to make them more coherent and accurate. pls rply. thankx bals — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.152.175 (talk) 00:58, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
- Because this edit was a 'deliberately introduced factual error', as have been all of your subsequent edits. Please stop wasting peoples time. RashersTierney (talk) 01:11, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Irish Volunteers
Whilst i'm not objecting to the change entirely, i must point out that the Ulster Covenant is properly known as "Ulster's Solemn League and Convenant". The way it was before your edit only omitted "Ulster's". Mabuska 12:10, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
- My only concern was that someone clicking on the link is directed to the appropriate article, which was clearly not the case before|. If you want to pipe Solemn League and Covenant (Ulster), I've no great objection. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 12:21, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Request for intervention (maybe a Nazi troll)
Hi RashersTierney, looking at the history of Nazi human experimentation, I noticed that you also reverted an obstructive edit by the same user (IP 199.64.72.252). - Maybe, he should now be blocked (permanently). Since I'm not registered to WP (and don't know about the procedures), I think perhaps it would be best, if you had a look at it yourself to see what's going on there and take the appropriate measures. It's about trust for factual accuracy... And furthermore it's absolutely not a topic to be ridiculed or poking any naughty fun at all. Best regards. -- 176.0.23.238 (talk) 12:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Blocking an unregistered user is technically possible by an Admin, but also sometimes prevents other potentially constructive editors from contributing. In the case of persistent IP disruption to a particular page, it is usually simpler to protect it, but even that measure is used sparingly. I'll keep the page, and edits from this IP, under review to see if further measures are needed. Thanks for your interest in improving Misplaced Pages. I'll post some links to your Talk Page which may explain better the issues involved. RashersTierney (talk) 12:50, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. I also appreciate your invitation on my talk page and will give it some thought. - Just wanted to tell you that I've read your reply here. (In case you want to do some housekeeping and delete this section or store it in the archive.) - My IP is a dynamic one, but WHOIS will show that it's still me. - Best regards and thanks for the warm welcome. -- 46.115.38.94 (talk) 19:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- No prob! If you do decide to register, drop me a note. Happy to help out in future. RashersTierney (talk) 21:29, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. I also appreciate your invitation on my talk page and will give it some thought. - Just wanted to tell you that I've read your reply here. (In case you want to do some housekeeping and delete this section or store it in the archive.) - My IP is a dynamic one, but WHOIS will show that it's still me. - Best regards and thanks for the warm welcome. -- 46.115.38.94 (talk) 19:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi RashersTierney, thanks again for all your help. Did the registration today, so that these annoying changes of IPs will stop for good. (I really hated it.) It was such a hindrance to any meaningful discussion. - Meaning of my moniker: reading a lot (swallowing huge amounts of coffee) and merrily riding my bicycle (whenever the rainfall stops here in the northern part of Germany). - Warm regards -- CaffeineCyclist (talk) 14:56, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for your message! Bonus bon (talk) 10:33, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well deserved. RashersTierney (talk) 10:41, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for warm welcome message!
Hi RashersTierney, answered in new section on my TP. -- CaffeineCyclist (talk) 21:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Ahem!
Compare this and this. No good faith or welcome needed..... 2 lines of K303 20:45, 20 August 2012 (UTC)