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If you have come here to post a long, profane rant about either me or some aspect of Misplaced Pages, I have no objections, as I think it's helpful to vent sometimes. I ask that you only 1. refrain from making personal attacks about other editors (besides me) and 2. avoid posting anything that might be construed as outing. Other than that, you may freely tell me that some guideline is a "fucking pain in the goddamned ass", or that my work was "a fucking pile of goddamn shit" as long as you have a reason why you think so- personal attacks don't bother me if they are made discussing a legitimate issue. I have no aversion to swearing myself, so don't post anything about me (or anything else, for that matter) that you wouldn't want to hear me say about you (obviously, warnings and the like are exempt from this). I will use your posts as the threshold for any particular conversation- if you ask me to tone down my language, I also have no objections.

PC Software, etc

Hi Blade, just directing your attention to this section of the current discussion of PC. It seems likely that the devs cannot have PC ready to go on the schedule we originally set, and I'd like to see what you, THO, DQ, and James Forrester think about possible ways to work with that restriction. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:27, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

That RFA

I was going to support til I saw he's a Dallas fan, UGH! Do I still have to? PumpkinSky talk 22:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

• Not loving America's Team is, well, unAmerican. I was raised in Texas so it is natural, but don't understand how someone could not love the best franchise in the league. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 22:41, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
  • BARF-O-RAMA! PumpkinSky talk 22:42, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I voted/!voted as you did PumpkinSky talk 23:21, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

• • On a more serious note, you have to admit, you never know what kind of question I'm going to ask. At least one of my previous RFA questions was a bit controversial, although I thought it was spot on and challenging. I was expecting a longer reply here, but what impressed me most was his ability to break away from the mold I created and be independent enough to choose his own choice favorite. It would have been easy to just agree with one of the choices I gave him. Independence is a big deal in an admin and the most important trait in my opinion, as that means they are less likely to fall victim to group think. Everything else can be learned. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:24, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
    • What ? was controversial and why? PumpkinSky talk 23:26, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
      • Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Hahc21, Q7. Some thought it was a trick question, but in reality it was a very good question to test how "knee jerk" the candidate was, which was my (well founded) concern. A few used it as a basis to oppose and the RfA failed. I actually asked a harder question at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/De728631 and he handled it like a freaking pro, as well as the whole RfA, proving he was ready. I have seen that question copied in a couple of other RfAs, using different BLP subjects, which I take as flattery :) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:33, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

        I generally like your questions, as they're very insightful. The one at Hahc21's was great. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:35, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

        • Excellent questions. I saw the trademark one when the RFA was running and also thought his answer was great. I don't have to worry about your tricky questions because I'd get creamed at an RFA. PumpkinSky talk 23:43, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
          • Thank you, Blade. What I liked about De728631's question and answer was that it was in reality quite complicated and he was wise enough to say "I don't know", meaning he was willing to ask someone more experienced. Knowing our limits is an important part of being an admin. I like questions that aren't simple, cut and dry, and force them to think "shit, I've never thought of that before" and go read up and figure out how to apply policy. As you know, we 'mins are always having to go and read policies to make sure we are getting the nuances in a given situation. The real test is never the black and white issues, but is always a question of "how do you react in the grey areas?". That tells me how they think, not just what they think. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:47, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
            • I'm waiting for the right admin (probably someone who's interested in contentious topics, like Rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid when he ran) to ask a question about how they'd handle something at AE; I'd be interested to see how that turns out. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:49, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
• Reaction and thinking are certainly key factors. AE questions? That's cruel and unusual punishment ;-) PumpkinSky talk 23:55, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Believe me, there's no way I'd begrudge someone who didn't want to answer it. Not sure if I would have if someone asked me at my RfA, but now I feel like I'm waging a one-man war over there to keep things under control; one never knows where they'll end up. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:56, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Kayastha

I submit Kayastha to your tender mercies ;) - Sitush (talk) 18:53, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

My eyes almost bled... ouch! I'll get it when my connection clears up. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Again. - Sitush (talk) 04:44, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

2012_Assam_violence edits!

Hi I want to notify that even after warning and displenary action notice some editors without talking in talk page have been editing out texts changing the meaning and content and bringing imbalance to the post eg. link by editor Zencv, thanks againShrikanthv (talk) 09:41, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

My ban

Hi there, you invited me to request clarification on the extent of my ban on Prem Rawat related articles. I am not reapplying for topic editing rights, but am I prohibited from discussing the situation here? Rumiton (talk) 09:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

As of now, you are; if you'd like to appeal that, I'd be fine with it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:36, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

The situation that I could see no way of dealing with is still going on, and unless I can find an effective way of dealing with it there is no point in my reapplying for editing rights. How about I appeal now for permission to discuss the situation here or on my Talkpage(and nowhere else)? Rumiton (talk) 01:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's fine. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. One of the underlying problems I see is that the editors are unbendingly opposed to each other. You did say you would look out for "further outbursts" from user:PatW but his contributions are more of a chronic, indignant and self-pitying rejection of all other points of view. Here is one: What YOU think is 'right' is to remove any negative tone (implied from the original sources) and to replace it with you and your Rawat supporter friends preferred re-write. This is all ugly, inexorable revisionism in my opinion. The repeated mentioning of Rawat's divinity claims is TOTALLY justified by contemporary sources , as are probably all the other 'imbalances' you seek to 'correct'. I don't care if this sounds like I don't have faith in your intentions. I think your mission here is contrary to the spirit of Misplaced Pages. And your self-confidence that you are 'making things right' is thinly disguised mocking of people who have frankly tired of resisting your highly biased editing spree. Do as you like. I'm just hoping someone, somewhere will take a look at your dodgy history here and put a stop to this retrograde behaviour.PatW (talk) 22:00, 18 August 2012 (UTC) I don't know how to deal with this stuff, which I find wrong and personally offensive. When I replied to the points he raised, I was accused of "escalating" the problem. When I ignored them, I was banned for "not listening." What do you think? Are these posts collegial? Do they assume good faith? Are they likely to create an atmosphere that will allow negotiation and lead to an improvement in the article? Rumiton (talk) 10:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll leave a message for PatW; I may e-mail him, so if you don't see anything on-wiki you can assume I've done that. I'll also take a look at Talk:Prem Rawat and see what's going on there; my time over the last several days has been diverted to 2012 Assam violence, so another look at the goings-on at Prem Rawat would do some good. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I will watch the talkpage for a week or so and if the tedious soapboxing eases up I might reapply for editing rights. Rumiton (talk) 01:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Just looked at 2012 Assam violence. It's impressive sometimes what a good copyedit can do in easing an article towards neutrality. CE is invited on the article header, but the talkpage requires all intended edits to be discussed prior, which makes copyediting very difficult. How do you interpret this? Rumiton (talk) 02:02, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Copyediting and the like are fine to do without discussion; that's more aimed at people trying to insert claims in articles. Anything making that article more intelligible is a good thing, so no one would get into any kind of problem copyediting. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

It seems that everything has not changed at Prem Rawat. This just in. I suggest you stop wasting your time Momento. When the community eventually wakes up to your heavily biased single-purpose editing this article will be most likely be reverted to it's former state (which a number of people agreed was quite stable). Quite rightly nobody seems to have the stomach to engage your taunts, endless straw-man arguments and thinly-guised revisionism any longer. Having myself wasted hours trying to make you see sense over the years (to absolutely no avail) I can see why. I guess your making up for lost time after your years ban. How pathetic.PatW (talk) 09:24, 1 September 2012 (UTC). Rumiton (talk) 13:10, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll have a look at both of them; obviously that's a really bad comment from PatW, but my experience in these sorts of topic areas is that there's sometimes something behind the invective that needs looking at (not an excuse, but at least it can be explanatory). It's going to take some time, but I will handle it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:34, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

OK, when you get to it. Rumiton (talk) 00:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Actually, just looking again today, I wonder if you might see fit to slide it a bit further up your To Do list? There seems to be a high level of not-getting-it going on.

Please refrain from all those personal attacks. Good editors have been banned for less. We should try and remain on (or reach, to begin with) a strictly argumentative level. "Stability" is not really an argument, and it is instructive to read WP:Consensus.--Rainer P. (talk) 12:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC) Rainer is German, a language I also happen to speak. He meant polemical, rather than argumentative.

For goodness sake we've been reading all those WP guidelines for YEARS! We all well versed in that! Does it do the slightest good? No! Stuff all this preaching about "personal attacks". It just sounds like Jossi again - totally 'passive' aggressive and threatening but couched as carefully as possible in calculatedly correct but twisted Wikispeak. As if Momento is interested in any 'Consensus' whatsoever with anyone other than you!! Do you think his last rash of Prem Rawat revisionism was done with 'consensus'?? NO WAY! Also if you call Momento's endless blustering and POV pushing anything approaching 'argumentative' then you're wrong. He NEVER sensibly engages argument, he just set's up straw men and goes ahead and just does what the **** he pleases. PatW (talk) 18:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC) Rumiton (talk) 01:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah... I think I know what I want to do, but I'd rather do it at the beginning of an editing session than the end, as I'm about 100% sure it's going to cause sparks to fly. I'll handle it the next time I log on, which won't be too long. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:04, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

More of the same. Rumiton (talk) 01:19, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Blade, I feel you may be getting unduly influenced by one side in this dispute. At first sight the wailing and teeth gnashing of PatW and Surdas can seem convincing, but the Talk Page history tells a different story. You wouldn't know it from the article, but Prem Rawat has a huge current international following. Bi-annually, he addresses international events in Asia with up to 600,000 people attending, introduced by an Indian deputy prime minister and other government officials. These events have been well covered in the local media, but when I have tried to include them in the article the objections have been inventive and colorful. The (Malaysian) media source is owned by a non-democratic government so we can't use it. The coverage is so positive that it "sounds like a press release." This photo shows a huge crowd but you can't make out the features of Prem Rawat addressing it. This other photo shows him onstage, but he might have been employed there just to test the sound gear (really, someone said this.) The article is in Hindi (or Italian, in one case) and we can't be sure of the translation. The video report of a public address is no longer hosted by the original TV channel and is now only available on YouTube, which is not a reliable source. Other things that WERE included, such as the success of his prisoner rehabilitation program, were only permitted following weeks of negotiation, after every possible objection had been raised and defeated.

I would also add that the reason these two are continuing their personal denigrations with such confidence is that previous admins (notably banned user:WillBeback), while claiming neutrality, have actually sided with their POV and let them off with the mildest of warnings. Might we now break this destructive cycle? Rumiton (talk) 02:49, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

On a cheerier note, 2012 Assam violence seems to have come off the boil and the Indian Government ministers seem to have stopped trying to start a nuclear war as well. A little time sometimes does good things. Rumiton (talk) 03:54, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's nice to see that; nevertheless, I've had to ban one editor from that article for a while for nearly doing permanent damage to my eyes with the reams of text he posted. Anyways, as I said below to Momento the reason I'd rather an AE be opened is so other admins can also have a look at it and come up with the best solution. I'm technically able to do it under standard discretionary sanctions, but this seems too complex for one person to handle in a way that won't cause all kinds of drama. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

I looked at that post and just applied TLDR. It may have been, as you suggest, a bit of a ploy to swamp the discussion. Rumiton (talk) 14:23, 4 September 2012 (UTC) I agree that the Prem Rawat article is unusually complex. Any admin trying to help would need to spend quite a few hours looking at the article's history and discussing it with editors. The battleground mentality that exists at the moment was created largely by visiting editors who thought they could figure out who the bad guys were in five minutes. Rumiton (talk) 14:54, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

If Prem Rawat has to go to AE before a better editing environment can come about, then I feel the need to take part in the discussion. Can I return to editing? (Obviously I will be a paragon of all the civility virtues.) Rumiton (talk) 09:56, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

I would be fine with that, yes. You can consider your restriction lifted. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:14, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Topic ban

Do you feel that Talknic has violated his topic ban again by this? It looks to me like it's showing a mentality that he's not giving up from the topic itself, but maybe it doesn't violate it.

Thanks. --Activism1234 14:34, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not going to block over it this time, but yes it's a violation. I'll leave him a warning. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:32, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanks. --Activism1234 20:35, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

NUDGE! ... The Blade of the Northern Lights - Uh? The current topic ban mentions nothing about "all namespaces". The topic ban from "all namespaces" expired 6 June 2012. In full here talknic (talk) 05:06, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Awaiting clarification of the above, in full here talknic (talk) 03:45, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

The Blade of the Northern Lights -- Have this appeal template as you suggested Call me a dummy, but I'm kinda confused as to where it should be lodged. Can you tell me please which is "the appropriate forum". Thx ... talknic (talk) 13:44, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Briefly

what do you want to tell me ? . פארוק (talk) 20:56, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) He means that you cannot write anything about Israel, Palestine, the political dispute between them, or anything even vaguely related to that, anywhere on Misplaced Pages, including both articles, talk pages, etc. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:00, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

YGM

Yes, you have. - Sitush (talk) 23:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I want to create an article

Hey Mate,

Hope you are in good health, I want to create an article, but I guess it was deleted before, page showed "please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below." So I got your link below.

This is the page I want to create & you deleted it before "http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=AdEngage&action=edit&redlink=1" I want to create this article again with unique content along with the strong references. Please help me, & let me know what should I do?

Looking forward to hear you soonest,

Best Regards, Carrol82 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrol82 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

اردیبهشت

Hi. You had recently blocked User:اردیبهشت for editwarring and removing scholarly sources. Well, he is back at it once again, removing a reference to the Encyclopaedia Iranica and technically violating 3RR. I have reported him on WP:ANI. --Lysozym (talk) 21:32, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

This individual did not notify me about her report, nor does she have any grounds for such a complaint when her edit history at Hazara people is indicitive of her disruptive editing. I had initially made a complaint about that, and he/she is evidently seeking to retaliate out of emotion and for no other reason. Quite Sad. اردیبهشت (talk) 21:40, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

This edit is a violation of WP:STALK and WP:POINT. Maybe he can explain to us why he reverts back to a version that is a direct violation of copy rights and draws heavily on obviously falsified content. Maybe he should have read the talkpage first. --Lysozym (talk) 21:42, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Once again, please stick to your own issue at hand. Also, im afraid that stalking is characteristic of your attidue and has been initiated long before by you, so please do not play a victim here. اردیبهشت (talk) 22:00, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker). Now that an AN/I has been opened, continuing the feud here won't help and it's not the place for it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:43, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Badaun Edits

Thanks for response and feedback! I edit Badaun to make it more informative. The link to rathore on wikipedia is http://en.wikipedia.org/Budaun_district. As for Sot river, I was looking to create a page on it, as its quite a impt river for people living in the region. Please suggest.

Two more points:

The assam page, seemed to really not an academic account please check

Also like to point out... the article on Mahendra Singh Tikait has been cut down a lot, even after references, please have a look ... found out when i accidently reached his page http://en.wikipedia.org/Mahendra_Singh_Tikait — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravindr (talk • contribs) 12:52, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

automation

Hi Blade, if you're online now, I need a quick answer: does the use of PyWikipedia require bot authorisation? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so, but I'm not 100% sure. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:28, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:48, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

FYI. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:53, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

About Arduino Cantafora

Hi fellow user. Please excuse me that I forgot to add references at Arduino Cantafora. I have already done so, could you please remove the template? Thank you! Regards from Montevideo, --Fadesga (talk) 19:39, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

An invitation for you!

	Hello, The Blade of the Northern Lights. We are in the early stages of initiating a project to plan, gain consensus on, and coordinate adding a feature to the main page wherein an article will be listed daily for collaborative improvement. If you're interested in participating, please add your name to the list of members.

 Happy editing! AutomaticStrikeout 20:41, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Talk:16:10

Hi, I'd once again ask you to take a quick look at the dispute over at Talk:16:10. User:Urklistre (whom you already warned about violating WP:BRD) has once again resorted to simply reverting the article back to his preferred version without giving any explanation in edit summaries or on the talk page. First revert, second revert (with the terse note "Do not edit page during dispute", after repeatedly encouraging me to just edit the article where I thought it needed improvement). In general, his tendentious editing and reluctance to work towards a consensus seem to me like clear signs of a disruptive editor. Your advice or intervention would be appreciated. Thanks! Indrek (talk) 23:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Add to the above signs ownership of the article - "just dont undo my changes and we will be fine" . Indrek (talk) 09:00, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Violating topic ban again

Talknic has once again violated his topic ban. See here.

I understand he had a question regarding "namespaces," but considering that you had already warned him that he can't make these types of edits, it seems a violation to me to ignore this and just still continue making these edits.

Thanks. --Activism1234 04:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

"all namespaces" was not included in the current topic ban. The topic ban specific to "all Namespaces" expired 26 June 2012. To that end I have been seeking specific clarification and alas, being completely ignored //"Editors are expected to be reasonably cooperative, to refrain from making personal attacks, to work within the scope of policies, and to be responsive to good-faith questions"// talknic (talk) 06:19, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Talknic, you've been warned by Blade before about a similar edit on your talkpage, and yet continued with making this edit, solely because you think that you are right. You felt you were right, and wrote that, but nowhere were you given a response that you were right. You continued on thinking you were right, despite an admin warning, and made a similar edit. This is an issue. If not, I trust Blade, a respectable admin, to decide that, and to do whatever is necessary here. --Activism1234 06:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Activism -- The exact wording of the topic bans are specific and quite clear. If The Blade of the Northern Lights now wishes to change the specific wording of the current topic ban, I dare say there is some avenue for doing so talknic (talk) 06:59, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

You shouldn't assume there's any wording to change though... Good night, I'll let Blade respond further as he/she sees appropriate... --Activism1234 07:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, as it's about 3 in the morning here and I'm editing an article on the one book that still rends my heartstrings, I'll get to this now so I can end on a good note. Talknic, the ban imposed by me would include all namespaces, including your user talkpage. As I really don't have the heart for it right now, I'm not going to block you now, but I hope this is completely, unambiguously clear. And as a quick aside, feel free to take a gander at the article I'm editing; I find it therapeutic, and perhaps you will as well. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 07:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

The Blade of the Northern Lights -- "the ban imposed by me would include all namespaces," "would" if that's what it actually said? There are numerous instances of T Bans on other editors, with and without specific mention of "all Namspaces". Surely there's an administrative standard on such a key issue? talknic (talk) 07:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I suppose it's my fault for not being more explicit to begin with. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:54, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

The Blade of the Northern Lights -- For the sake of clarity and head aches for all, I suggest an administrative standard be set for the inclusion of "all namespaces" where applicable and; am I bound to an admittedly inexplicit instruction or shall I self administer the additional clause? :-) talknic (talk) 17:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Pardon the late response; the sanction I gave you was intended to include all namespaces, so I suppose you'd be bound to it. If you can hold to it, I'd be more than happy to consider an appeal. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:18, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

The Blade of the Northern Lights -- OK. No hurry. Have this appeal template as you suggested Call me a dummy, but I'm kinda confused as to where it should be lodged. Can you tell me please which is "the appropriate forum". Thx ... talknic (talk) 02:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Since it was an AE action, you'd put it at the bottom of WP:AE; hopefully that clarifies things. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:02, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Thx ... talknic (talk) 04:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

You may search sources in Google scholar here is one that I found --Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 07:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your support in my RfA in spite of my ambivalence towards the Cowboys. For what it's worth, the greatest Packer of all-time is John Jefferson.—Bagumba (talk) 00:09, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

User violating indefinite ban

Hi Blade,

Sorry to disturb you, but I thought I best let you know that פארוק (talk · contribs) (Farouk) appears to be violating the indefinite ban per ARBPIA which you placed on him. He has engaged in an AfD discussion for an Israeli article. I left a notice for the closing admin to make them aware of the ban imposed. However, Farouk has responded to the notice with an anti-Semitism remark which appears to be directed at myself. Thought I best let you know as I don't know where I would need to report this for investigation. Regards, Wesley Mouse 17:17, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

(tps) This article have nothing to do with the conflict is just neighborhood in Jerusalem--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 17:33, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Ahh right thank you for clearing that up, I wasn't too sure hence why I left a notice so the closing admin at the AfD could investigate it for themselves. I didn't expect to an anti-Semitism response back from the user in question though; that alone was uncalled for. Wesley Mouse 17:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)The remark is wrong of course but this WP:CIVIL matter.--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 17:39, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, the response was definitely uncalled for, but the article is just about Israel, not specifically about the Arab-Israeli conflict. That said, if Farouk makes another comment like that it'll quickly lead to sanctions. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:07, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Kumar Vishwas talk page problems

Please can you peruse the recent history at Talk:Kumar Vishwas. You semi-protected the article recently due to fanboy activity. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 07:21, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

ANI notification

I mentioned your name here: Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Legal_threat_at_Talk:Cold_fusion.3F. IRWolfie- (talk) 11:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

FYI - read your message on Goble's talk page and left a message on ANI asking an admin to add the block template to the talk page. I thought some of the screed's I've read on the financial and tax pages got weird, but his was really, really bizarre. Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 15:12, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks; not sure why I can't edit the ANI thread, must be something with my phone. Hopefully I can sort it out at some point. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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Yes I want my old material back

Hey mate, I asked you for the creation of new article & you offered me previous(deleted) material. Yes I want that material back. It would be great for me. This was the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=AdEngage&action=edit&redlink=1

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrol82 (talk • contribs) 23:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

2012 Assam violence

OK, you got me into this crap...well you didn't exactly, I followed you there, but I think you should accept some of the responsibility. In copyediting this article, I deleted a paragraph on SMS's and Tweeting which was incendiary in the circumstances, and I believe unsupported by the ref given. The paragraph began, Investigators have traced the source of hate messages to Pakistan. An editor reinstated it, and added 2 more refs, which I also found did not support the statement, if anything rather the opposite. Needless to say, this is a real life situation where people are being killed. Some help might be needed. Rumiton (talk) 13:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I've got my eye on it; I completely agree that the references they currently have don't back up such a strong statement. We'll see what happens, and I'll step in if I need to. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism report

Hello there. I would like to bring to your attention that an IP address, 69.247.190.207 (talk), has been making persistent disruptive edits and vandalism to articles within the scope of WP:SOAPS, after ignoring several warnings from me and other editors. I'm contacting you as I've seen you've blocked IPs before for such matters like this. I've undone many disruptive edits made by them now, and it's really becoming a bother. Creativity97 (TALK) 22:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Blocked for 31 hours; let me know if it starts back up. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:44, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! It was really starting to be a bother. And I will. Creativity97 (TALK) 23:25, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Prem Rawat

Greetings. I see you sympathise with PatW and largely agree with what he has said. That is, you sympathise and largely agree with PatW when he brazenly claims that I removed Jimbo's edit from the Lead when the diffs show that I wasn't involved . And when I pointed that out to PatW, he claimed I was misrepresenting what happened. And you sympathise and largely agree with that as well.

Here are the changes I made to the Rawat lead and here why I made them - Removed excessive cites as recommended by others; introduced Rawat by name at the beginning of the second para instead of "he"; reduced two mentions of "divine" to one; removed "Under his charismatic leadership, the Divine Light Mission (DLM) became the fastest growing new religious movement in the West" OR and unsourced; removed "though it was sometimes described as a cult" because removing "new religious movement" meant there was no balance to put "cult" into perspective but invited editors to find a way to put it back in with better sources; removed "with journalists noting luxury automobiles and multiple residences made available to him by his followers" because "multiple residences" is qualified in the article with "Travelling almost constantly, he was reported to have residences in London, New York, Colorado, California, India, and Australia"; removed the unsourced OR claim that he was disowned because "he married an American" when the article says she disowned him because "he married against his mother's wishes"; removed "abandoned the Indian aspects" because the article says "abandoned the religious" aspects; replaced "The Divine Light Mission was disbanded in the West in the early 1980s, succeeded by the organizations Elan Vital (1983) and The Prem Rawat Foundation (2001)" with the two sentences covering Rawat's activities in the 80s and 90s "replacing Divine Light Mission with Elan Vital. As his following increased in the 80s and 90s Rawat toured almost constantly. In 2001 he established "The Prem Rawat Foundation" to fund his work and humanitarian efforts and his message is now distributed in more than 88 countries. The TV series "Words of Peace" is transmitted via satellite and cable in six continents"; removed "Prem Rawat has been criticized for a lack of intellectual content in his public discourses" because it is completely absurd that of all the material in the article about Rawat speaking, touring and teaching this OR sentence should be the sole opinion on his speaking, touring and teaching.

And whilst doing this I have asked editors for constructive comments about the content of my proposals and have been met with silence or abuse. I've been threatened and harassed by WillBeback for years before ArbCom finally woke up to him. Your suggestion that PatW starts an AE on me will be a walk in the park.Momento (talk) 11:51, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Look, the whole idea is to prevent that from happening; I don't want to unilaterally do anything here to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Besides, I think I made it pretty clear to PatW that tact is a virtue he needs to acquire; the only reason I didn't do anything upon the latest talkpage comment is that I felt a personalized note from an admin would perhaps elicit some change. We'll see what happens; I'm treading very carefully to avoid making any overly rash decisions. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

PatW been warned a dozen times and twice by you. And Surdas has been warned by Rainer. You didn't give Rumiton a third chance. And I didn't get a note from you before you suggested an AE.Momento (talk) 04:20, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:PC2012/RfC 1

We're going to run a 1-week RfC just on the question of keeping or ditching PC Level 2 ... the hope is that this will generate more feedback in preparation for the next RfC, which will be longer and more interesting. Will you be around about a week from now to close it within a few days? If possible, I'd like to give people a rough idea when the next RfC is coming . - Dank (push to talk) 17:31, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll be here. I'll check in tomorrow and see what's going on. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism report no. 2

Hello again, the same IP address I reported to you has begun making disruptive edits and vandalism again. Given past history, it is unlikely they will listen to any warnings I've left. Creativity97 (TALK) 17:46, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Reblocked for a week. I suspect we're headed down the 1 week, 1 month, 3 months, 1 year road. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:29, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

You're probably right. Thanks again. Creativity97 (TALK) 14:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

India sanctions

How does one go about asking for AE on this? Obviously some sort of warning needs to be given at Talk:India to one particular editor and this is apparently not the first time that this warning appears necessary for them. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 06:59, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

There are instructions at the top of AE for filings on specific editors, and you can use {{uw-sanctions}} to warn an editor on their talkpage. More generally, you can add {{Discretionary sanctions}} to the top of an article talkpage to give anyone going there notice. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

In this issue:

• Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
• Research: The most recent DR data
• Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
• Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
• DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
• Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
• Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

--The Olive Branch 19:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Editor review/TheGeneralUser (2) Your review is required and will be greatly appreciated :)

Hi The Blade of the Northern Lights ! I have started my second editor review at Misplaced Pages:Editor review/TheGeneralUser (2). I will be greatly delighted, thankful and valued to have your review for me regarding my editing and possible candidate for Adminship. I see you also evaluate possible candidates for Adminship as you had chosen to do so on Misplaced Pages:Request an RfA nomination, so do evaluate me too! As you are a experienced and long term Wikipedian so i have asked for your kind review. Take your time to review my editing and give the best review that you can :). Feel free to ask me any questions you would like to on the review page itself. It will be a great honor to have you review me for which I will truly feel appreciated and helpful! I always work to improve Misplaced Pages and make it a more better place to be for Everyone :). Regards and Happy Editing! TheGeneralUser (talk) 19:41, 4 September 2012 (UTC)