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Welcome, correspondents If you're here because I deleted an article you think should be undeleted, please read this first and remember--Most of the time, I didn't write the text that appears in the deletion summary.
N.B. I don't respond well to either fawning or abuse. Talk to me like a peer, assume good faith, and you'll find I reciprocate in my helpfulness.

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Position Essays may help you understand my point of view with regard to...

• Notability of Fictional Topics
• Articles for Deletion
• Blocks
• My RfA Standards

Administrator Goals Doing my best to improve the tiny little wedge in the top center:

Ohconfucius is back

In case you didn't know, he is back to very active editing through his Smalleditor account (since 20 August): http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Contributions/Smalleditor&offset=&limit=500&target=Smalleditor 70.253.89.90 (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. He's now blocked pending him contacting ArbCom. Jclemens (talk) 21:55, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought there was to be no date-related editing on any account until the matter was looked over by ArbCom and a decision made on the original complaint. Such editing (e.g., Gwyneth Paltrow) resumed today as Ohconfucious, shortly after he announced on his talk page that "the Ohconfucius account will from now on make no further mainspace edits". BlueMoonset (talk) 15:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Since it's labeled as a script test edit, and it doesn't change what his script was previously accused of changing inappropriately, I think it's reasonable to wait and see what he says about it. Jclemens (talk) 16:01, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I guess I misunderstood: you said on his talk page that the block was imposed to ensure "he will address the outstanding issues before continuing any date-related editing". Has he? Because there are date edits in that example, and in many others, including Jennifer Garner, which is a unilateral change of yyyy-mm-dd in the date field to mdy format, although the former is valid according to WP:MOSNUM. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:52, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

How does labeling an edit a "test" make it OK? Aside from that issue, the following yyyy-mm-dd edit was not labeled as such: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Digital_Fortress&diff=prev&oldid=510058191 70.253.86.236 (talk) 12:45, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Another: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=The_Da_Vinci_Code&diff=prev&oldid=510057761 70.253.86.236 (talk) 03:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Another: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cairnryan&diff=prev&oldid=510729849 70.253.90.179 (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Four more: (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Time_Lord&diff=prev&oldid=511021999 (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=The_Salmon_of_Doubt&diff=prev&oldid=511021628 (3) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dirk_Gently%27s_Holistic_Detective_Agency&diff=prev&oldid=511021257 (4) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Geoffrey_Hughes&diff=prev&oldid=511020770 70.253.79.140 (talk) 05:23, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Three more: (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Internet_Brands&diff=prev&oldid=511035986 (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Tom_Baker&diff=prev&oldid=511035400 (3) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ivory_trade&diff=prev&oldid=511035342 70.253.93.229 (talk) 19:44, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Three more: (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=American_International_School_Hong_Kong&diff=prev&oldid=511786055 (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Jaycee_Chan&diff=prev&oldid=511638606 (3) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Mount_Parish&diff=prev&oldid=511637733 70.253.88.49 (talk) 06:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Two questions for the IP: what is the name of your former (or, more unlikely, current) account(s)? Are you aware that when an article is split between styles, i.e. half yyyy-mm-dd and half non-machine format, it is perfectly acceptable (indeed, encouraged) to pick one format and make it consistent? Jenks24 (talk) 05:36, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Anna S. Þorvaldsdóttir

Hi Jclemens. Any chance you could userify the Anna S. Þorvaldsdóttir article you deleted at 19:06, 25 December 2009? Since then she has won the Nordic Council Music Prize, so notability is no longer an issue, and I'm thinking of putting together a properly referenced article about her – I'm just wondering whether the deleted article would give me a start. Thanks — Hebrides (talk) 21:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I restored it; it was deleted via PROD, so no special justification was needed. It has only primary sources right now, so I tagged it with {{blprefimprove}} and left it in mainspace. I would appreciate it if you would go ahead and use or rewrite that article to include the appropriate secondary sources appropriate for a WP:BLP. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

ANI

It doesn't look you're aware of it yet, but your comment/suspicion about a certain editor has been brought in focus on Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#And_A_Nobody.27s_participation.3F. Tijfo098 (talk) 17:38, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Jclemens is away currently, but I'll let him know. Hersfold 02:54, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

I see that this has already been archived, and as I understand it, the comments involving me were simply quotes of my past observations about possible inclusionist sockpuppetry that never compelled me to run an SPI to settle the matter. If I've overlooked anything or any questions remained unanswered, please feel free to highlight them for my attention. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 20:44, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

In this issue:

• Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
• Research: The most recent DR data
• Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
• Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
• DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
• Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
• Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

--The Olive Branch 19:09, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Deletion discussion

You may be interested in this discussion. I'm notifying you because you participated in the first deletion discussion and/or the deletion review. LadyofShalott 16:41, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I may or may not respond there. Jclemens (talk) 20:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm back

Thanks for your patience with me while I was out of the country. It turned out that my Internet access was more severely limited than I anticipated, and thus was on a pretty severe Wikibreak not entirely of my own choosing. Give me 24 hours to catch up, and if I've not addressed something that you think I should have, please ping me again on this talk page. As you might imagine, I'm catching up on Misplaced Pages as well as the rest of my life simultaneously. Jclemens (talk) 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Stop

I just wanted to warn you that Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Dungeons_&_Dragons#Another_AfD and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ankh-Morpork City Watch your behavior is starting to look like Misplaced Pages:Harassment. You're free to participate to any discussion you want, but your pattern of singling me out in your answers, only to throw a bunch of personal attacks (that includes wrongful and unsubstanciated accusations of bad behavior) aimed at getting back at me for daring to have a different opinion than yours in unrelated discussions, is becoming tiresome and needs to stop. I will not be your punching ball for whenever you feel your editorial beliefs are threatened, your first move at the Wikiproject was obviously prompted by your fear of the Adherer AfD and the discussion at WP:RSN, now right after your more than original interpretation of policy gets rebutted at Ant lion AfD, you of course lash out at me at Ankh-Morpork AFD.

You have to drop the battleground mentality, if your views are not accepted by the community, violence and intimidation is not going to do any good. Just drop it and do something else.Folken de Fanel (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

I wanted to give you some small measure of time to realize your mistake and revert yourself here, to avoid having you take yet another chance to make yourself look stupid... but you don't seem to have realized, and so I'll regretfully point out that you followed me to that AfD: Per this, your first edit to the page was 28 hours after mine. My first edit was delayed by a week or more since I was out of the country without Wiki access, as can be seen by the more than weeklong gap in my edit history. Oh, and I have had a Discworld Userbox on my page since 53 months ago: Well before I was an admin, let alone an arb.

So for you to come here and complain that I'm following you... is yet another instance where you look like you are not accurately perceiving reality. Seriously, if you're going too fast and making avoidable mistakes, please slow down and be more careful. If you really believe this to be me persecuting you... I suggest you seek appropriate mental health counseling.

I bear you no ill will whatsoever. I will, however, defend the encyclopedic coverage of fiction against you and others who want to use an overly narrow reading of our notability and sourcing guidelines to limit or remove coverage of prominent fictional elements that are verifiable, related to clearly notable topics, and of use to our readers. If you continue to participate in those areas, you will continue to encounter me. I hope that you can participate in an effective and collegial manner despite your history of heretofore doing neither. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 21:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)