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Part of Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution

Ultimately, the content of Misplaced Pages is determined by making progress toward a community consensus. However, the size of Misplaced Pages prevents community members from actively following every development. As a result, disputes sometimes arise that could be resolved with additional input from a larger segment of the community.

To request comment on a dispute, link to the page where the discussion should take place. Please add a brief, neutral statement of the issue involved. Don't list arguments for or against any position, or try to assign blame for the dispute. Don't sign entries, just link to the appropriate page.

Place the link in the appropriate section below. Disputes over article content should link to the talk page for the article in question. (If you simply want peer review of an article, then list it at Misplaced Pages:Peer review instead.) If the dispute involves allegations that a user has engaged in serious violations of Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines, create a subpage for the dispute. Use the subpage to elaborate on the allegations.

Whatever the nature of the dispute, the first resort should always be to discuss the problem with the other user. Try to resolve the dispute on your own first. For disputes over user conduct, before requesting community comment, please wait until at least two people have contacted the user on his or her talk page (or the talk pages involved in the dispute) and failed to resolve the problem. Don't forget to follow Wikiquette. Items listed on this page may be removed if you fail to try basic methods of dispute resolution.

Article content disputes

Please only list links to talk pages where two or more participants cannot reach consensus and are thus stalling progress on the article.

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• Quantum mechanics | Revaz Dogonadze section of talk page - An anonymous user wants to add stuff about certain quantum electrochemists, several others think it should not be included. Revert war has been going on for over a week now.

• Talk:Oradour-sur-Glane - should the article include mention of other massacres in order to show how this massacre was less important?

• Talk:Hugo Chávez - POV intro

• List of micronations | Talk:List of micronations - Should Empire of Atlantium be on this list?

• Matt Drudge | Talk:Matt Drudge - Revert war with one side insisting on discussion before deletes, other side acting unilaterally.

• Talk:Project_for_the_New_American_Century - Poll over NPOV dispute, to get page unprotected. See the Talk:Project_for_the_New_American_Century#POV.2FNPOV_dispute section.

• Category talk:Birmingham, England - Should many of the articles in that category be removed from it due to overcategorization? See talk at User talk:Pigsonthewing#Category reverts for earlier discussion.

• Talk:T. Cullen Davis (There is not yet a dispute; this is an effort to precipitate any dispute before taking action whose reversal would probably be impractical.) Should the existing articles on 3 of the victims be merged into the accused's article, and become redirects to it?

• Talk:CHSH inequality This article is copied in other encylopaedias etc but is largely wrong. I have suggested a re-write. Should I go ahead?

• Talk:Effeminacy - User:WHEELER vs User:Korpios et al. Definition of effeminacy. Also borderline personal attacks.

• Talk:Uncanny Valley - should Roger Ebert's opinions be mentioned in the article, and if so, how?

• Talk:John Kerry - Which version on Kerry's military service and anti-war activism is the most NPOV?

• Image talk:Seldon.jpg - should the image be included in the Hari Seldon and The Foundation Series articles?

• Talk:Hugh Hefner - should this article describe Hefner's various lovers as "mistresses" and the (hypothetical) children from the relationships as "illegitimate"?

• Talk:Ladislaus - should Ladislaus or Vladislaus be used as primary spelling of the name for Polish kings?

• Talk:Yeshu - Should the article state at the start that references to Yeshu in the Talmud are believed by most scholars to be references to Jesus, or should it first discuss Yeshu without mentioning Jesus and then discuss the identification with Jesus as a minority view?

• Talk:Nazarene Judaism The Dispute is over whether to reveal the netzarim movement as a branch of mordern orthodox Judaism or to present it as a form of apostate Messianic Judaism.

• Talk:Evolutionism just generally request any comments from people who are not as POV as us two.

• Talk:Mesa, Arizona - Should articles include the Pima language or any other foreign name in the article headers?
  Example: Mesa (Pima Mohmli) is a city...

• Talk: Frankfurt School - should the article list Lyndon LaRouche as one of three major types of critics of the Frankfurt School?

• Talk:Childlover is an article about pedophiles. Conflicts are about whether it should argue that "non-violent" "consensual" sex with children is nothing bad, whether it should display a list of links to forums of such people, and whether it should have links to organizations that help both pedophiles searching for treatment and those who suffer from the described "love".

• Talk:Anti-American_sentiment: Dispute over how to include alleged consequence of terrorism and view that fundamentalist islamic terrorism is not directed solely against the US, wording of introduction.

• Talk:Prem Rawat - dispute over this guru's involvement in the Divine Light Mission. Extreme POV when discussing the ex-followers as if they are a hate group without allowing a discussion in the main article why they oppose the guru so much.

• Talk:Anti-Semitism - Dispute over allegedly anti-Semitic edits.

• Talk:Media coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict - What should the scope of the article be (e.g. should Mordechai Vanunu be included), and how should allegations (e.g. of Israel influencing the western media) be presented?

Article dispute archive

Comment about individual users

This section is for discussing specific users who have allegedly violated Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines. In order to request comment about a user, please follow the instructions to create a subpage in the appropriate section below. Disputes over the writing of articles, including disputes over how best to follow the NPOV policy, belong in the Article content disputes section above.

General user conduct

Discussions about user conduct should be listed in this section unless the complaint is specifically about the use of admin privileges or the choice of username. To list a user conduct dispute, please create a subpage using the following sample listing as a template (anything within {...} are notes):

• /Example user - Allegations: {one or two short sentences giving the dry facts; do not sign entry.}

Before listing any user conduct dispute here, at least two people must try to resolve the same issue by talking with the person on his or her talk page or the talk pages involved in the dispute. The two users must document and certify their efforts when listing the dispute. If the listing is not certified within 48 hours of listing, it will be deleted.

Candidate pages - still need to meet the two person threshold
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Approved pages - have met the two person threshold
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• CVA Allegations: personal attacks, ignorance of the three revert rule, vandalism
• Bobblewik Allegations: systematically destroying all references to "Great Britain"
• TDC Allegations: personal attacks, ignorance of the three revert rule.
• WHEELER2 Allegations: resisting consensus, personal attacks or negative personal comments about other users
• /24.168.92.117 Allegations: continuous revert wars, insertion of self-promotion, removal of info on other artistic groups.
• /VeryVerily - Allegations: ignores consensus, inserts POV, misrepresents edits in edit summaries, refuses to discuss issues.
• /Bushit - Allegations: offensive username, vandalism of George W. Bush, adding commentary to Silvio Berlusconi.

Use of administrator privileges

This section is only for discussions specifically related to the use of sysop rights by Misplaced Pages:Administrators. This includes the actions of protecting or unprotecting pages, deleting or undeleting pages, and blocking or unblocking users. If the dispute is over an admin's actions as an editor, it should be listed under the General user conduct section above. To list a dispute, create a subpage using the following sample as a template:

• /Example admin - Allegations: {one or two short sentences giving the dry facts; do not sign entry.}

As with disputes over general user conduct, at least two people must certify that they believe there is a legitimate basis for the complaint. If the listing is not certified within 48 hours of listing, it will be deleted.

Candidate pages - still need to meet the two person threshold
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Approved pages - have met the two person threshold
List newer entries on top

• /Guanaco - unprotecting without consenus

Choice of username

If you believe someone has chosen an inappropriate username under Misplaced Pages's username policy, you may create a subpage here to discuss whether the user should be forced to change usernames. However, before listing the user here, please first contact the user on his or her talk page and give them an opportunity to change usernames voluntarily.

• /Anti-Chen
• /Everyone using a username which is against policy
• /FoxNews (that is not the actual username)
• /CrucifiedChrist

User dispute archive

Convention disputes

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• Template talk:Substub - Should we have a template message for substubs?
• Misplaced Pages talk:Substub - Should we have a separate category of stubs for really short stubs (which are called substubs)?
• Talk:Bowling_for_Columbine#Category:Propaganda - How should we choose which articles to include in categories when a dispute arises?
• Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) — should BCE/CE be preferred to BC/AD for dates?
• MediaWiki talk:Europe — Which dependencies should be in the box? Should dependencies be linked to dependent areas? Which countries should be included? Should there be a flag?
• Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions and Lists of pieces — Lists of pieces has a format borrowed from Lists of solo piano pieces, which lists pages by composer, style or period, and nationality or culture. Now a list of pages itself and every alphabetical page clearly violates the "Do not use an article name that suggests a hierarchy of articles" convention, example: List of solo piano pieces by composer: G. Do we add lists such as this as an exception to that convention or make the "lists" one list instead of many?
• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Aircraft/Footer dispute — dispute over enforcing/developing standard features of a specific WikiProject.
• Misplaced Pages talk:MediaWiki namespace — What format to use for custom messages.
• Misplaced Pages talk:Page footers — Use of MediaWiki namespace to create page footers for various purposes.
• Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Football Clubs/page name — A discussion, not a dispute. Grimsby Town F.C. or Grimsby Town Football Club
• Talk:Rail transport in the United Kingdom/Alternate naming schemes — another *discussion* - UK versus GB, Ireland versus NI ...

Resolved convention disputes

• Dispute resolution