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Reverts

Hi! Was it really neccessary to revert all of my edits without any explanation whatsoever? Do you truly believe that all of my edits (including mere grammar corrections) were vandalism or what? I even explained them. In this edit, I just made succession far less confusing (and more correct) to the readers and succession in an infobox such as this one is incredibly messy and impossible to understand. Thanks, 92.36.157.154 (talk) 08:23, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, your edits were just plain incorrect. The Banner talk 11:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
It sounds as if all of my edits were incorrect, which simply isn't true. It's actually quite sad that you refuse to discuss this and simply dismiss my edits. If you don't care to explain your actions, I'll reinstate those edits of mine which were unquestionably correct (for example removing places of birth and death from lead sentences, which are never included in the lead sentence). I don't understand why you would remove the "royal house" parameter from infoboxes, when it's natural to have one. I also don't understand why you would reinstate claims that William III's sons reigned as Princes of Orange - that is just absurd. I'm sure you know that the Principality of Orange was not a sovereign state back then. Is that what you call "incorrect"? Furthermore, File:Prinses Henriette Maria Stuart.jpg is obviously not a portrait of Mary II of England. These are just some examples. It seems to me that you just went on to revert all my edits without bothering to see what is it that I changed. 92.36.132.167 (talk) 15:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Charles of Sweden infobox

Greetings, The Banner! While I'm not entirely OK with removing all the parameters from the infobox, I do believe that including all is a bit too much. In fact, I was the one who removed them a year ago or so. Do you disagree? Surtsicna (talk) 16:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

When you have a better explanation then "confusing", I am willing to listen. The Banner talk 16:25, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid you don't know how Misplaced Pages works. I don't need you to listen because I don't need your approval. You cannot just undo an edit because you don't like it. You don't have any explanation whatsoever, so criticizing the quality of my explanations is a bit tacky, don't you think? Surtsicna (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
I am just asking for your arguments, not for an angry reply. The Banner talk 16:41, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
I apologise if I was too rash. My cookies and internet connection issues have been bothering me, though, but I thought my arguments were clear. Cheers, Surtsicna (talk) 16:46, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
You mean that you are identical to the two IP's? The Banner talk 16:48, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
And if you really want to use as an argument, then you have a few articles to correct along that way... The Banner talk 16:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I've been unable to remain logged in. For a few days, clicking the Edit button or refreshing the page seemed to have the effect of logging out. "Sorry, we've lost your data and couldn't process your edit" sort of thing. If there's a lot to correct, I sure do hope others will join in, as places of birth and death are nowhere to be found in lead sentences of featured biographical articles. Surtsicna (talk) 20:07, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

85.250.126.76

Hi, Thanks for reverting 85.250.126.76 (talk · contribs)'s vandalism. In case you're not aware, this person is a long running vandal who adds nonsense to articles on modern militaries (typically, though not always, the militaries of developing countries). Please let me know if you see them again and I'll block the account. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 11:34, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, I did not respond to him as a vandal but just to his habit of adding unsourced information with loads of links to disambiguation pages. But it is good to know that he is just a vandal what makes cleaning up his mess far easier. He is highly visible on the Toolserver-page "Articles With Multiple Dablinks" where he suddenly storms the top places in the list when active again. Thanks for the warning. The Banner talk 12:18, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Template redirects RfDed on 14 September

Thanks for working through that big list. To make it clear when you've completed them, please could you leave an obvious edit summary so it doesn't get accidentally overlooked. Cheers, Thryduulf (talk) 15:26, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

I will, I didn't do it yet because I am afraid to annoy him. The big list is embarrassing enough... The Banner talk 15:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
In case I wasn't clear, I was meaning when you've finished the entire list rather than each individual item (although edit summaries are always good). Thryduulf (talk) 23:00, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter

Hey The Banner. This will be, if not our final newsletter, one of the final ones :). After months of churning away at this project, our final version (apart from a few tweaks and bugfixes) is now live. Changes between this and the last release include deletion tag logging, a centralised log, and fixes to things like edit summaries.

Hopefully you like what we've done with the place; suggestions for future work on it, complaints and bugs to the usual address :). We'll be holding a couple of office hours sessions, which I hope you'll all attend. Many thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:09, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter

Hey The Banner. I'm dropping you a note because you've been using the Page Curation suite recently - this is just to let you know that we've deployed the final version :). There's some help documentation Misplaced Pages:Page Curation/Introductionhere that shows off all the features, just in case there are things you're not familiar with. If you find any bugs or have requests for new features, let us know here. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:03, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Middlesbrough

Hi there. This is not a moan at you but a request for information! :) I was very interested by this edit in which using some kind of clever tool you changed Middlesborough to Middlesborough. This is sort of good-but-bad in that it should simply have become Middlesbrough. (This is one of the things I do a little bit of work on here, in a mainly depressed and desultory kind of way.) Now, as I say, I'm absolutely not here to go yadda yadda at you about this except that, knowing nothing but nothing about how such tools work, I wondered, does it have a dictionary or something? Because if it does then I guess I should contact the owner and try to get it fixed, whereas if it's just a simple mistake or rather mistakette from you then I should simply offer you a cup of tea, bid you good day and move on! Please advise... thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 20:09, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I have used WPCleaner in an attempt to remove links to disambiguation pages from the article. It was quite disheartening, due to the many unsolvable links. In this case "Middlesbrough" redirects to Middlesbrough (disambiguation). WPCleaner then offered all the links on that page as possible solutions and to me opinion, Middlesbrough was the link intended. Unfortunately, WPCleaner does not pickup typos in links, it just sees a link to a disambiguation page.
You can find more information about WPCleaner here: Misplaced Pages:WPCleaner. I hope that solves your question. The Banner talk 20:42, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Aha, thanks very much for the explanation. I shall read up on it a bit. I'm mildly disappointed because I thought I was close to stumbling over the Secret Middlesbrough Spelling Switch which when flicked would suddenly make the world a better place. (Mind you I would need to find something else to obsess about then, so ho hum.) Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Not vandalism

Please be careful what you revert as vandalism. This categorisation maybe controversial, but Kevorkian was indeed convicted of second degree murder. It is helpful to take time to look through edits and if making changes, to give clear and accurate edit summaries. Thank you Span (talk) 07:44, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

He was indeed convincted, but Kevorkian was not Armanian. He was born and bred American. The Banner talk 07:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
He was ethnically Armenian. I'm just advising you to leave summaries rather than rolling back things you don't agree with. Thanks Span (talk) 11:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Being "ethnically Armenian" does not make someone Armenian, as the article, that have removed, claimed. Please read the background here: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Famous armenian murderers released from imprisonment. The Banner talk 15:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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Your suggestion...

at Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy)#Un-bundling_of_the_block_tool.

I honestly did miss your suggestion for a time-limited block, but glad to see we are on the same page. My prediction is nothing will happen this time, but maybe if it comes up again, and the same suggestion comes up again, it will fall on more receptive ears.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 19:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia Ireland

On Wikimedia Ireland, I saw you were an interested user. Someone needs to submit bylaws to the chapter committee for approval, and you seemed an experienced user, so I am reminding you. If your'e wondering, I am not an interested user.--Lucky102 (talk) 15:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I have not a clue what you are talking about. Bylaws??? The Banner talk 20:34, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, wrong person!--Lucky102 (talk) 20:37, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Totally curious now. Do you have a link where I can see more? The Banner talk 20:39, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Found it, read it, and still admit that I can serve best a plain foot soldier. The Banner talk 21:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Irish towns

I have reverted your latest edits to the County Cork and Mayo templates. I have also replied to you at the talk pages for the both templates. The confusion seems to arise because you are under the impression (which I believe is sincere) that towns in Ireland have councils, otherwise they are not towns, but that is not true. Most towns in Ireland do not have councils. — O'Dea (talk) 17:30, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

It would be nice when you did your homework properly: see page 21 The Banner talk 20:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
You have cited this document before. Nothing has changed since the first time you cited it. It is a list of "Towns with Legally Defined Boundaries" which are a subset of Irish towns, meaning it is not an exhaustive list of Irish towns, meaning that most Irish towns (as defined by the CSO themselves) are absent from this list. That same document you refer to mentions the 664 towns in the state on page 17: "Towns without legally defined boundaries are called "census towns" ... There were 664 such towns in 2006." Please note that phrase "664 towns". The CSO has a more comprehensive list here. I will refrain from making snide comments like yours about homework. — O'Dea (talk) 21:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Did you take a look at Census town? A census town is just a statistical feature, not a real town... As example: O'Briensbridge-Montpelier. Sorry, but you should know the differences in legal status between a town with town council, a market town and a census town. The Banner talk 23:12, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
I think we should take this debate to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland. ~Asarlaí 18:40, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Please do, because I am getting highly annoyed by this POV-pushing. The Banner talk 18:44, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
You have no monopoly on being "highly annoyed". I have been preparing comments to bring to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland, as Asarlaí suggests, and will present them there when time permits. This needs to be resolved. The Banner, I have told you before to stop issuing personal remarks. It it not "POV pushing" when I cite objective sources, even if you disagree with them. You, yourself, cite the Central Statistics Office, so you believe they are a valid source. I am using them too. That is not POV. If you persist with mixing personal remarks into what should be simply a discussion of towns, I will post a formal complaint against your violation of Misplaced Pages policies. — O'Dea (talk) 05:54, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
In my opinion, what you do is pushing your own point of view, based on the mistaken idea that a census town is the same as a town. If you want to bring to WP:ANI about that, I will not stop you. I am complelety not sensitive for threats like that. About the CSO-sources. The link I gve to their site points to information similar to the Local Government Act 2001, off which I gave you the link earlier. It is still the Government who decides when a place is a town and worthy of receiving a town council. Not the CSO. The Banner talk 07:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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John Lee (ice hockey)

I see you've created John Lee (ice hockey). I was researching him last night to figure out what to do with the redirect. Now, I don't know much about ice hockey, but it looks like the subject clearly fails WP:NHOCKEY. StAnselm (talk) 20:39, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I doubt it, as he is drafted by the Florida Panthers. Why he only started playing professional in 2012, I don't know. By his stats clearly shows that he played four games for the USA u19 in 2007. The Banner talk 21:00, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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Page Curation newsletter - closing up!

Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:15, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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Sth personal

Hello, I was wondering why my edits (all) were reverted. Is it something personal? --Welshwind (talk) 02:25, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I have told you before that the normal way of working on Misplaced Pages is based on consensus. With radical edits als mergers or title changes it is normal to discuss it first to obtain consensus (= broad agreement) about a proposal. And only after reaching consensus, the change is put through. That can take time, true. But it is best for the encyclopedia. The Banner talk 10:30, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Would you mind to propose consensus, then. You see, only the two of us seem to be interested in tripe soups. Would you mind to propose a consensus rather than reverting all of my edits? I would like to see sth saying that tripe soups are present in most human cultures, and give far more examples. Central and Eastern Europe plus the Middle East is not really enough, because tripe soups are also present in the rest of Europe, Africa, Asia and even the Americas. If you could sort of revert your revert and adjust it to your taste a bit more, that would be great.--Welshwind (talk) 12:36, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
By now another guy is looking into it. And I have requested input from Wikiproject Food and Drink about the merger. Let us see what the community thinks about it. We are in no hurry. The Banner talk 12:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

October 2012

Hello, I'm ChemTerm. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Sollentuna_Hundred that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Misplaced Pages needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it’s one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ChemTerm (talk) 01:13, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I'm ChemTerm. Misplaced Pages is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Sollentuna Parish seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ChemTerm (talk) 01:14, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Misplaced Pages articles, as you did to Bromma Parish. Doing so violates Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. ChemTerm (talk) 01:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)