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::Thanks for trying to explain. I can't pretend that I know what you're talking about and all the initials and worries about "privacy concerns" confuse me as do the long explanations elsewhere. I notice that it was discussed in 2010 to take the article to FAR and I can only wonder why nothing was done then and why nothing is being done now. If only I could explain to you how confusing wikipedia is. Old users may think they are explaining their positions, but their obscure terminology fails to convey what on earth is going on regarding that article and others. I'm sorry that Truthkeep88 fails to extend to me the good faith that is supposed to be given. Her long explanations, filled with personal history, only create more confusion for me. Best for me just to stay out of anything that has to do with TFA, FA, and probably any GA review that is likely to go to FA, as many of the articles I've reviewed in the past have become FAs. Thanks again. Best wishes, ] (]) 16:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC) ::Thanks for trying to explain. I can't pretend that I know what you're talking about and all the initials and worries about "privacy concerns" confuse me as do the long explanations elsewhere. I notice that it was discussed in 2010 to take the article to FAR and I can only wonder why nothing was done then and why nothing is being done now. If only I could explain to you how confusing wikipedia is. Old users may think they are explaining their positions, but their obscure terminology fails to convey what on earth is going on regarding that article and others. I'm sorry that Truthkeep88 fails to extend to me the good faith that is supposed to be given. Her long explanations, filled with personal history, only create more confusion for me. Best for me just to stay out of anything that has to do with TFA, FA, and probably any GA review that is likely to go to FA, as many of the articles I've reviewed in the past have become FAs. Thanks again. Best wishes, ] (]) 16:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Wiki can indeed be confusing. I hope I was of some help. One piece of advice is that if you find an area of wiki stressful, try to stay away from it. ] ] 16:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC) :::Wiki can indeed be confusing. I hope I was of some help. One piece of advice is that if you find an area of wiki stressful, try to stay away from it. ] ] 16:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Yes, I'll follow your advice. As I said above I'll avoid all articles that may be nominated for FA or GA. I'll avoid FAC and GA reviews in the future. I'll avoid having an opinion on any opinion board, even if I'm asked. I'll avoid all policy, guidleline and essay talk pages. Any place I'm personally attacked I won't respond and will avoid that page forevermore. I won't ever ask any questions again. Thanks for your advice. ] (]) 16:14, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


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Image protection

  • Could you protect
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on Commons? They'll feature on the main page soon and the bot there has flaws. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:27, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
No problem. Done. PumpkinSky talk 15:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Just wanted to thank you for taking a look at the Ryan article, much appreciated. -- The Writer 2.0 17:56, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. PumpkinSky talk 18:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

—GingerMomma Hi PumpkinSky. You asked if Women's Image Network had done anything external? I found an ABC United States National television broadcast of a TV special they produced about women in comedy called Here is that link http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283341/

Hello, PumpkinSky. You have new messages at Bagumba's talk page.
Message added 23:07, 21 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

—Bagumba (talk) 23:07, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ottla Kafka

Updated DYK queryOn 24 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ottla Kafka, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ottla Kafka, the youngest and dearest sister of Franz Kafka, died in the Holocaust because she divorced her Catholic husband? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ottla Kafka. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

common.js

PumpkinSky, I was recently playing around with Misplaced Pages scripts and found some that I thought you might like. I'd really recommend:

  • importScript('User:Equazcion/ActiveWatchers.js'); //shows a count of the number of watchers who are actively editing
  • importScript('User:Ucucha/duplinks.js'); //adds link in toolbar to check for duplicate wikilinks (already have that one)
  • importScript('User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js'); //adds a link to toolbar to count words on page
  • importScript('Misplaced Pages:AutoEd/complete.js'); //AutoEd (too agressive on white space)
  • importScriptURI('//ru.wikipedia.org/search/?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-markblocked.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); //crosses-out sigs of blocked/banned editors (nope)
  • importScript('User:Ohconfucius/script/formatgeneral.js'); //general formatting

and WP:Reflinks. • Jesse V. 01:26, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I have no interest in the one about the banned sigs, but I'll check out the others. PumpkinSky talk 02:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

You might also want to look at User:Kephir/gadgets/rater, which really speeds up assessing articles. • Jesse V. 14:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Is there a way for that to rate an article that doesn't have a talk page? Ryan Vesey 14:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Just make any edit to the talk page, and every article can have at least one project tag, just leave the ratings blank at first. PumpkinSky talk 14:52, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Actually, Kephir just fixed it. Ryan Vesey 15:34, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

An invitation for you!

Hello, PumpkinSky. We are in the early stages of initiating a project to plan, gain consensus on, and coordinate adding a feature to the main page wherein an article will be listed daily for collaborative improvement. If you're interested in participating, please add your name to the list of members.

 Happy editing! AutomaticStrikeout 20:40, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, PumpkinSky. You have new messages at Drmies's talk page.
Message added 14:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Drmies (talk) 14:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

  • I liked the older picture you had up there--grainy and gritty, and supposedly taken just after his release. I think it focuses more on the "having been captive" (and not on any single individual), where this official portrait focuses on one particular decorated man years after. Drmies (talk) 17:47, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
That crossed my mind too. The article is not big enough for both pics, we could swap them out again. PumpkinSky talk 17:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

ISCA

LOL . edit conflicting. I'm gonna go make dinner and do a few things - will be back a little later. sorry about that chief. :-) — Ched :  ?  22:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

ARRRGGGGHHHHH ... lol - go ahead.— Ched :  ?  02:22, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
HEHE. I was fixing those refs you goofed up you old fart! PumpkinSky talk 02:24, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
<talking like Gabby Hayes> I was workin on it daggummit. :P. Dang young whipper-snappers and yer new fangeled 4-wheeled horseless carriages - dag-nabit. Always rush, rush, rush.
Anyways .. I'm about done for the night - but will check back tomorrow and see if I can find anything else on the topic. Do you think we should mention any of the current officers or anything like that? I'm not seeing a whole lot out there beyond the primary source. Could put the "4 annual publications" and "$10 dues" I suppose from http://www.mitchreis.com/tradegrp.htm if you'd like. Let me know what else I can help with. — Ched :  ?  02:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
I wouldn't put the officers or dues. Yea, not a lot out there.PumpkinSky talk 09:52, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

New Prep 2

PumpkinSky, the Prep 2 you just put together, assuming that Prep 4 and Prep 1 are duly filled in before it, is the first set for the Paralympics, running at 09:00 London time on the 29th. As such, it ought to have two Paralympics hooks, and the set as currently constituted has none. Did you want to adjust it accordingly, moving two to one of the open sets, or would you rather have me do it? Please let me know as soon as you can; I can hold off for two hours, I think, but no more. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:38, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

It looks like Orlady moved Prep 2 bodily up to Prep 4, so it's all solved. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Oh, thought we had more tie before paraolympics. Thanks for asking.PumpkinSky talk 09:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Some falafel for you!

Never pressed the "wikilove" button before, but figured I should give it a shot. I thought you might be interested in the most exotic food product available on the list of food and drink, so here you go. On that related note, I actually haven't tried falafel before. I think I should give it a go in the near future. =| Kurtis (talk) 17:46, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Yum, but what did I do to earn wiki love? PumpkinSky talk 17:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't know, I'm just a Wikiloving guy I guess.
Well, OK — thank you for your contributions to DYK. They are helpful. Now go enjoy your falafel. =) Kurtis (talk) 18:24, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
By the way, just in case you weren't aware, I am the new Master&Expert — the one who hath not an ampersand. Kurtis (talk) 18:26, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Remember, we shared Baklava before, matching Falafel - a good celebration for our precious latest GA, Franz Kafka, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Congrats on the GA you and Gerda. Feel free to help proof/source Poseidon (short story), My Neighbor (short story) or Advocates (short story).♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:39, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

User:PumpkinSky/memorabilia

I've pretty much done all that I know to do with this. Let me know where you move it to. Thanks for letting me edit in your sandbox BTW. Of course I knew if I started editing it that YOU would jump in too. You are SOOOO easy .. lol. — ChedZILLA 19:11, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

move it to "International Scouting Collectors Association". SInce it's a rebuild of a copyvio deletion, it's DYK eligible, but the lack of secondary source may or may not be an issue. PumpkinSky talk 02:18, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 Done .. I didn't do anything as far as a DYK though. Glad that we (you, and Drmies mostly) didn't let this one get away. Always nice to save an article that deserves to be here. TY for all you do again. — ChedZILLA 04:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 August 2012

Template:Did you know nominations/Symphony (video game)

Hello PumpkinSky. I came across this nomination because of the reviewer, also responsible for Template:Did you know nominations/Edmund Marriage. I made copyedits to the article (too many reviewers "forget" to do that) and found a significant number of problems. I would like to ask you to scrutinize the article again, since I may not have found all of them. Thank you very much. 66.168.247.159 (talk) 01:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Symphony (video game) has already been DYK. What specific problems in it are you talking about? PumpkinSky talk 02:01, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Oh. Well. Never mind then... Names were misspelled, for instance, and there was a general lack of good writing. Thank you, 66.168.247.159 (talk) 02:03, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

question

over at my other talk page it's mentioned that Ebru Umar and Metro (Dutch newspaper) could be a double DYK:

But I've never done a "double hook" DYK .. ok, actually I've only done maybe a half-dozen DYK things TOTAL - and that was years ago. I'd like to 'git er done' for the 207 and 66 IP editor(s) - so any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. — Ched :  ?  18:57, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I can give you a suggestion for nothing: if you (or anyone) let "inflammatory" onto the mainpage on a BLP with no source and not mentioned in either article, you can expect a dozen dead-buffaloes-worth of vultures to swoop. – iridescent 19:26, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Good point .. "controversial" perhaps? I'll have to break out the Google Translate I guess here, but will try to fix.
started this, but not sure where to go from there yet. — Ched :  ?  19:46, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
No problem Ched. I'll work on this later this evening. PumpkinSky talk 19:57, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I lose track of who's speaking to whom after the Great War of 2010, but Drmies and Ucucha are both fluent Dutch speakers. – iridescent 20:01, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you both very much .. It looks like Drmies is taking a bit of a break, but I'll check with the IP addresses, and if need be drop Ucucha a note. Great War of 2010? I'm guessing there was some great debate on WP:INDENT? — Ched :  ?  20:17, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
As Drmies also said on his talk page, I'm not seeing anything specific that needs Dutch-language input. Iridescent, I'm not sure what you mean by the Great War of 2010 (in any case, that is ancient history now), but just for the record—there's no one on Misplaced Pages I'm deliberately not speaking to, and I'm not aware of anyone not speaking to me. Ucucha (talk) 07:01, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Definitely avoid "inflammatory" in a BLP. PumpkinSky talk 21:19, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Done. See...Template:Did you know nominations/Ebru Umar, Metro (Dutch newspaper), Talk:Ebru_Umar#Issues, User_talk:Drmies#Dutch_language, and User_talk:Ucucha#Dutch_language PumpkinSky talk 22:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

IPs can't make Wiki love--well, you know. I see you've been talking about me, and I appreciate what you all did. "Inflammatory" is probably a bit of a composite (it's certainly true, but not verified verbally, if you will). Then again, "goat fucker" inflamed a lot of people, as one of the sources indicated. Anyway, thank you so much for your help. 66.168.247.159 (talk) 22:32, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

WOOF WOOF! No problem. Maybe cats and dogs can make friends and set an example for wiki. Where have I been talking about you? — Puppy of Dog The Teddy Bear • • 22:42, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Puppy, learn to read, above, link to your friend Ched ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Puppies can't read and PSKY thought he meant elsewhere.PumpkinSky talk 22:51, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Puppy can woof, puppy can sniff the link to Ched (elsewhere) where we talked about translations ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Puppy can go pee on your user page too ;-) — Puppy of Dog The Teddy Bear • • 23:08, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I am confused. Can someone translate this in Dutch? 66.168.247.159 (talk) 23:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

translation

  • IP-adressen kunnen niet Wiki liefde - nou ja, je weet wel. Ik zie dat je het over mij, en ik waardeer wat je allemaal deed. "Inflammatoire" is waarschijnlijk een beetje van een samengestelde (het is zeker waar, maar niet verbaal geverifieerd, zo u wilt). Dan weer, "geit neuker" ontstoken veel mensen, als een van de bronnen aangegeven. Hoe dan ook, heel erg bedankt voor uw hulp. 66.168.247.159 (overleg) 22:32, 31 augustus 2012 (UTC)

Woof Woof! Geen probleem. Misschien honden en katten kunnen vrienden maken en een voorbeeld voor de wiki. Waar heb ik het over jou? - Puppy van Dog The Teddy Bear • WOOF • 22:42, 31 augustus 2012 (UTC) Puppy, leren hierboven te lezen,, link naar uw vriend Ched;) - Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 31 augustus 2012 (UTC) Puppies kunnen niet lezen en PSKY dacht dat hij bedoelde elsewhere.PumpkinSky praten 22:51, 31 augustus 2012 (UTC) Pup kan inslag, kan puppy snuiven op de link om Ched (elders), waar hadden we het over vertalingen;) - Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 31 augustus 2012 (UTC) Puppy kan gaan plassen op uw gebruikerspagina te;-) - Puppy van Dog The Teddy Bear • WOOF • 23:08, 31 augustus 2012 (UTC) Ik ben verward. Kan iemand dit vertalen in het Nederlands? 66.168.247.159 (overleg) 23:07, 31 augustus 2012 (UTC)

Monster clueless - use translate.google.com. <shurgs> .. <shrugs his shoulders> — ChedZILLA 23:13, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Haha, that's not bad at all! 66.168.247.159 (talk) 23:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
(ec - you are much faster, and find things) Ask Drmies, see above. - After PumpkinSky and I seeeriously dealt with Kafka for a month we need a little nonsense ;) - What do think about signing on with a name? My memory for numbers is horrible, but I knew I saw 66 before, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:15, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Did someone say Number 66? pssst. Don't tell Diannaa, she sees numbers upside down @ 66 - it's an inside joke about NHL players. Canada and USA thing. — ChedZILLA 00:06, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for The Zürau Aphorisms

Updated DYK queryOn 1 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Zürau Aphorisms, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Franz Kafka wrote the 109 Zürau Aphorisms at the estate of his sister Ottla and her husband in Zürau where he sought recovery from tuberculosis? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Zürau Aphorisms. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:03, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Image protection

Hi Pumpkin, another batch. As you know, I don't trust the bot.

Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:19, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Doing now, the bot sucks. PumpkinSky talk 02:25, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Please Sir, I want some more:
File:Trogloraptor marchingtoni, female tarsus of leg IV.jpg
File:View across Independence Pass from north.jpg
File:Chris Bond of Australia crop.jpg
File:Island Escape at the Port of Gibraltar (cropped).jpg
Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:54, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Have you seen the threads, now in archives, on WT:DYK about this and the bot/ PumpkinSky talk 11:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
  • A couple, but they basically say "it should come through". When it doesn't... Alright, I guess I could upload copies locally (but my bandwidth is a problem for that) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Totally agree with you, I don't trust the bot either. I don't mind one bit protecting them. Just let me know when needed. I do some on my own too. PumpkinSky talk 12:13, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

It's done

The CCI case is now complete. That can finally be moved on from. Now if it were only that easy to gather together a group of editors for all the other ones. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Great news and great work, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
WOW. I am speechless. Huge thank you Wiz! I never thought it'd be done and it was way faster than I expected. PumpkinSky talk 11:09, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

an old edit

I am writing to you because I found this block log.  Are you still ok with your edit comment that says "sock farm"?  The context for this question is Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/76.189.110.167, which is a discussion about another RoadRunner DHCP dynamic IP address.  Unscintillating (talk) 22:17, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

That was almost 4 years ago and I don't recall it at all. Nor do I have admin tools to investigate it. So I have to defer to current admins. PumpkinSky talk 22:19, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK Prep 1 heads up

I think you promoted Did_you_know#Watermarked_Photo. Don't know the proper procedure, but thought you should be aware. Maile66 (talk) 18:11, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

See response at WT:DYK. PumpkinSky talk 18:40, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Did you know nominations/Domestic violence in Pakistan

I removed two lines and the junk ref, the hook was not even sourced to that, why have you rejected the nom? Facts, not fiction (talk) 19:20, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

It's also been getting bounced around for about 6 weeks without much hope of being resolved. Is there any real hope you and some reviewer (not me) will knuckle down and settle this one expeditiously? PumpkinSky talk 19:23, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
See comment in WT:DYK topic on the article. It seemed to me that with Orlady's intervention, this was on the brink of being settled again. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:30, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
I thought it had been settled after Orlady intervened, it was just KW causing grief for whatever reason, that is all done now. Facts, not fiction (talk) 19:33, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
I'll put it back but please get this settled quickly. It's gone on far too long. PumpkinSky talk 19:35, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Orlady says it is good to go :o) Facts, not fiction (talk) 20:41, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 September 2012

WP:Featured article review/Operation Downfall/archive2

Too harsh? I'm pretty sure that's my position. - Dank (push to talk) 16:28, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Responding there. PumpkinSky talk 16:30, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK awards?

Hey PSKY, I have 25 DYKs credited if you count the ones people tagged me in for "substantial contribution" as well as create/expand. Does that make me eligible for a little pretty medal? (Will be 26 when WR Brown runs) Can't find the page for requests to be made, however... Montanabw 20:43, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Do you keep a list of them somehow/where? I keep mine at User:PumpkinSky/Articles#DYK. They count whether or not you nom'd them. DYK has two tracks: the "major contributor" one and the "DYKs you nomed on behalf of another editor that you weren't a major contributor to", as in User:PumpkinSky/Articles#DYK_nominations_for_other_users. The DYK page for this is Misplaced Pages:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. If you want, point me to your DYK list and I'll take care of it. PumpkinSky talk 20:52, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
It's at User:Montanabw/DYK, if someone put the DYK tag on my page, I added it here. Thanks. Montanabw 22:01, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Awarded! As you get more, it's ok to update the number of DYKs in the list and move yourself up the list. I did that yesterday myself. PumpkinSky talk 22:11, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Paralympics hooks

PumpkinSky, I'm guessing you didn't see my post to WT:DYK asking for certain hooks to be given consideration for Prep 4. Any chance you can at least promote Jake Lappin, which I cannot do because I approved it? One of the ones you just put into that set could be moved down to Prep 1. I'd appreciate it.

Unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done for Cody Meakin at the moments, but getting Jake up there would be splendid. I've been looking at that hook for days, and wishing I could do something, but I'm stuck. Thanks for your consideration. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:31, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't see that thread. Sure. I'll swap them around. PumpkinSky talk 02:41, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much! I was promoting so many Paralympic hooks there that I was beginning to think I was a jinx for any that I had to send back for further work and then approved... at one point the first four in the section were all approved by me, and I couldn't touch them. Glad all four are promoted now; Jake was the last one. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:12, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Alcatraz Gang

Updated DYK queryOn 9 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Alcatraz Gang, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Alcatraz Gang (member pictured) was a group of eleven American POWs singled out for extra harsh treatment by their North Vietnamese captors because of their fierce resistance to captivity? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alcatraz Gang. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd 16:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but it was your idea and you started the article. PumpkinSky talk 02:01, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Good content, Pumpkin! Some translated, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 September 2012

Quirky Greek stuff

Not a letter of the alphabet this time, but would you think Lekythion is quirky enough for a nice little DYK? Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Definitely DYK material! As for the quirky DYK slot (the last hook in any DYK set), perhaps something with the oil flask. Very interesting article! PumpkinSky talk 13:20, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
I think this would make a good lead with photo as we don't get a lot of high quality pics of Greek pottery and a good quirky slot. PumpkinSky talk 15:43, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Pony!

Appy Pony!
Congratulations! You have received a pony! Ponies are cute, intelligent, friendly (most of the time, though with notable exceptions), promote good will, encourage patience, and enjoy carrots. Treat your pony with respect and he will be your faithful friend! Montanabw 19:01, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
WOW NEAT! I love Appy Ponies! (notes photo is a Shetland, but pattern is good, so who cares;-) ) Thanks!PumpkinSky talk 19:07, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
(Note that uploader is unaware that purebred shetland ponies actually don't come in leopard complex, but indeed, who cares?) Montanabw 23:54, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK Prep area 3

I'm refraining from moving my own hook, but wouldn't the hook on Jupiter (roller coaster) be better in the final slot as the "quirky hook"? It would also split up a run of three hooks which are about various constructions and buildings. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 23:01, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi. We must have a different sense of humor. I honestly don't think the roller coaster one is quirky at all. But I will shuffle the building ones around. PumpkinSky talk 23:04, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for William Robinson Brown

Updated DYK queryOn 15 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Robinson Brown, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Arabian horse breeder William Robinson Brown founded the Maynesboro Stud 100 years ago? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Robinson Brown. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd 16:02, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Harry S. Truman PR

As Franz Kafka is still open, you should temporarily withdraw Harry from WP:PR, as the rules limit editors to one open review. Sorry. Brianboulton (talk) 23:24, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

OH. Wehwalt and I were working on that one. I'll withdraw it. PumpkinSky talk 23:32, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

stop it

There's no need for you to be asking anyone to do adminy stuff. Go get your bits back. Yes .. I know there was a bunch of talk on AN or ANI back then. But the bottom line is you were NOT involved in a case. You were NOT even part of a RFC/U. You turned everything in because of ONE freakin article .. that is NOT "under a cloud" (or whatever they call it these days). Stop letting people rewrite history - march your ass over to BN and get your bits back. I'm sure there's at least one crat that is familiar with the whole thing and has a lick of common sense. Geesh dude - stop being such a drama whore .. go pick up your bits. — Ched :  ?  05:42, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Ebru Umar

Updated DYK queryOn 16 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ebru Umar, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that after Theo van Gogh's murder, Ebru Umar took over his regular column in Metro? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Metro (Dutch newspaper)

Updated DYK queryOn 16 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Metro (Dutch newspaper), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that after Theo van Gogh's murder, Ebru Umar took over his regular column in Metro? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


Folding@home is a FA candidate

I've always been impressed and fascinated by your efforts with Yogo sapphire. Now its my turn for my work to be scrutinized, because I have nominated Folding@home for Featured Article status because I believe it meets the criteria. Just wanted to let you know that. :D • Jesse V. 01:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

OK. On FACs I focus more on techy stuff. I leave the prose to others who are better at that than me. ;-) We'll be putting up Franz Kafka] and Harry S. Truman soon.PumpkinSky talk 01:37, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
I wish you the best of luck with that! I'm sorry to see that despite your best efforts that the Truman article didn't stay at FA-class. I guess I had assumed that all the articles on US presidents were solid FAs! • Jesse V. 01:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
I think it was FAR'd during my 9month or so absence. PumpkinSky talk 01:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
I guess, though you've got your old name all over the first half of the FAR page, so that must be it. • Jesse V. 01:51, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
OH YEA. Forgot I participated. Oh well. HEHEPumpkinSky talk 01:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Facepalm Facepalm :D • Jesse V. 02:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • It's awesome that you've improved this article. I used to run folding@home on my laptop, but I'm having some computer troubles so I didn't download it after I did a system restore. Ryan Vesey 02:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Admittedly, it was challenging to research and write about, but with a lot of feedback and help from many different people it's been getting there. Whenever you get your computer up and running properly by all means check out F@h again. The V7 client makes installation, control, and configuration significantly easier than any of its predecessors. • Jesse V. 02:43, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

PumpkinSky, to clarify, Yogo sapphire was the first time I'd seen a FA be developed. I started watching at GA status, but I thought it was neat how you, Montanabw, Nikkimaria, Vsmith, and other editors were collaborating back and forth. That was the fascinating part. You all wanted to push the article forward, but you needed help from each other to do it. There was lengthy discussions and voting on pictures, and everyone talked back and forth. The collaboration turned out really well. • Jesse V. 04:37, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it was indeed a team effort. Thank you. PumpkinSky talk 09:52, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK help?

I know it is not Montana, but a brand-new editor created a new article four days ago Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail, with a potential DYK hook (DYK that Brow Monument still has a survey marker placed by John Wesley Powell in 1872, or something like that.

I have a full day of work tomorrow, so have to be low profile on WP tomorrow, and the DYK deadline is tomorrow. My guess is that the editor doesn't know about DYK, so could use some hand-holding.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 01:37, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Will nom and show them the way. PumpkinSky talk 01:44, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Will discuss on his talk page. Watch there if interested. PumpkinSky talk 02:03, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Brow_Monument_and_Brow_Monument_Trail

Hi. i'm the very bewildered guy who wrote the brow monument article. gee, things sure do zip along fast here.. at any rate, information re reliable sources. is this for the article itself? if yes, the signs were the source. and the fact that my wife and i walked the trail i was going to just let them stand on their own but it was suggested i re write them in my own words. the signs were, it appears, taken from the nomination form. i'm off to dinner right now but will be back in an hour. bpolk Abearfellow (talk) 02:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

They can be fast or glacial here. It just depends. Unless you put something in quotes, you have to reword it or you'll called for copyviolations, plagiarism, etc. Always use a RS too. Do you have access to the NRHP nomination form? Those are a goldmine. PumpkinSky talk 02:40, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I have all 23 pages of the form that the NRHP folks researched and just sent to me. i have the question out to commons, teahouse, and someone else (too many names, i can't keep track) as to what to do with them in terms of using them as citations or at least references for others to look at. i have not uploaded them, pending someone giving me an idea if they are needed or how they should be used. so far, everyone has seemed happy with the sources being the national forest service/department of interior signage that was placed along the trail. these are the photos that are at the bottom of the article in a gallery. if you click on them, you will find all of the information that I paraphrased in the article. and, importantly i think, there are literally (until i got the pdf's from the NRHP) no references anywhere other than the signage. the manager of the nat. forest service office at jacob lake was at a loss and she'd tried everywhere until my wife and i actually went out and found the trailhead (not easy) and made the walk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abearfellow (talk • contribs) 04:12, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
See Eagle's Store, ref 2, for what to do with a NRHP nom form when using as a ref. SInce you did not get this online, you won't need the URL parameter. Use this ref at the end of every paragraph that uses its info.PumpkinSky talk 09:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
hi. i'm not sure if it's appropriate or useful or whatever to let someone know the results of an effort (in this case - should i upload the pdfs associated with Brow) the main thought was no - that the NRHP nomination forms are generally done by private individuals and given to the government. whether that is true in this case, who knows. but, i am going to take your advice to use the Eagle Store example and cite them as a general reference that people can request from NRHP at the bottom of the article. thank you very much for your help bill polkAbearfellow (talk) 20:50, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Upload a pdf? Why? to commons? I never do that and am not aware of anyone else doing so, but I guess it's possible. Just use them as refs as the rest of us do. Now if you mean the photos that are in the NRHP pdfs sometimes, yes those could be uploaded. As to their licensing, as at User talk:Nyttend, that's who I always ask about NRHP questions. Oh, have you learned how to "watch" an article or user page yet? PumpkinSky talk 21:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
hi. in answer to whether i've learned about "watching' an article or user page. yeah, i guess i know about it but I sometimes forget to do it so i have to brutally go back and chase things down. eventually i'll get the hang of it. probably right after i've finished this. I've looked at the Eagle's Store article and how the references were cited for the NRHP nomination. None of my article actually cited information from the "nomination" document but the Forest Service's information signs obviously did. If I list the Nomination pages as a "reference", it would essentially be a reference or more accurately the reference for the entire piece. What I would like to do is mention it as a source so someone can go to the NRHP and request the 23 page pdf file for their own usage. Since it's not an easily available public document - like going down to the local library, I would have to say something to the effect: "NRHP Nomination Papers - Available by contacting the NRHP at nr_reference@nps.gov and requesting a copy of the Nomination Papers for Brow Monument NRHP number 87001159". Do you think that would be an acceptable approach? as always, thanks again for helping me limp along here (and i'll mark this to "watch" it. bill polkAbearfellow (talk) 23:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
If the Forest Service got info from the doc, you should be able to find it. Just do it as I suggested, people dont have to be able to find refs online. PumpkinSky talk 23:54, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
hello once again. after laboring through how to do a "reference" in my sandbox, i just updated the brow article with the nrhp nomination form. if you get a second sometime today, could you take a quick look to see if it is acceptable. thanks bill polkAbearfellow (talk) 18:49, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Did some fixing up. Now you go post at the DYK nom page: WT:DYK, find "Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail" under Sep 13, click review or comment, then post that you've fixed the refs, set a watch on that Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail nom page, then post at the reviewer's page, ] that you're ready for him to look at it again. PumpkinSky talk 20:26, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
thanks. i'll go do those things now. i hope. bill polkAbearfellow (talk) 20:29, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
me again. for the life of me, i could not find it at WT:DYK but i did leave a post at Allen3 that i (or more appropriately, we) made modifications to the references.Abearfellow (talk) 20:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
My fault, here: Template_talk:Did_you_know PumpkinSky talk 21:36, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 September 2012

Question about Template:Did you know nominations/Gook (headgear)

FYI,

A question about the promotion of Template:Did you know nominations/Gook (headgear) has been raised at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Sept 19 DYK on main page. As you are the person who performed the promotion of this nomination, your participation in the discussion would be appreciated. --Allen3  02:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

your response is required

Hi there, this edit of yours is being discussed on the DYK talk page. Schwede66 02:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Replied there.PumpkinSky talk 02:28, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

TFAR and stuff

Thanks, that's much appreciated - I don't recall us disagreeing elsewhere on WP other than (temporarily and in good faith) at TFAR, as it happens... I suppose the side-effect of increasing slots and reducing reliance on points is that it means that more participation and debate is needed to help the scheduler(s) find where the consensus lies, but as long as it's done in good spirit there shouldn't be a problem. Regards and best wishes, Bencherlite 12:04, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

thanks and best to you. PumpkinSky talk 16:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail

Hello! Your submission of Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Allen3  14:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

FYI, on the template, there's been some communication from the author indicating, IMO, they might need a little help either with sourcing, or understanding that writing about what somebody personally told you is not a source. Good luck.Maile66 (talk) 00:23, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
hi pumpkinsky. while maile66 didn't specify which section of the article needed a source, you can probably guess, as i did, that it is the section on The Brow Monument Trail. as i wrote maile66, i can, with somewhat clear conscience, use the nomination form - but one additional piece is to use the National Forest Service map as well. Between those, I guess that the trail has reference information. Is this heading in the right direction? (and, i guess i'm a bit testy here because i don't see where i used anything anyone personally told me as a reference in the article sheesh. )bill polkAbearfellow (talk) 00:42, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Back over here: Template:Did you know nominations/Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail ask her for more detail. Yes, you're progressing nicely. It does take time to learn wiki ins and outs. PumpkinSky talk 00:44, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
hi again. i went out and gave sources for the trail information. map and nomination. hope this is satisfactoryAbearfellow (talk) 04:09, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Gooks

Regarding this thread, I wasn't trying to get you in trouble. I saw you promote it, but just assumed you'd vetted it for potential problems. (Nobody complaining that "unvetted material has made it to the main page" has actually found any problem with this article - and they won't - but some people seem determined to create drama in everything.) Mogism (talk) 16:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.PumpkinSky talk 19:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Icelandic Phallological Museum

File:2008 Iceland national handball team - phallic casts.jpg

What do you think of the idea of holding it over to Valentine's Day? I had a think about what dates would be most appropriate; April Fool's is a possibility but I didn't want to make a joke of the whole thing. I think there's a good enough case for running it on Valentine's. Considering the museum's clientele, it should be popular with the ladies at least. :-) Prioryman (talk) 22:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

I certainly see how some would like that, I also think it'd draw the ire of feminists and various types of trolls. How about Feb 13? PumpkinSky talk 00:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Bah; noting like a bag full of dicks for V-Day. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
What's on Feb 13? Prioryman (talk) 06:40, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Well, how about we leave that choice to the TFA nomination page contributors? Give them a choice of both days and see which people prefer. That's the fairest way of doing it. Pumpkin, would you be okay with removing the current nomination and coming back to this in January? Prioryman (talk) 20:59, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
That occurred to me today too. There is a definite consensus for around Val Day, but not the specific day yet. I'll put it on the sked here: Misplaced Pages:QAI#TFAR_candidates and save the TFAR blurb here so we don't have to reinvent the wheel: Misplaced Pages:QAI/TFA.PumpkinSky talk 21:45, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Okay, good idea. Thanks. Prioryman (talk) 09:58, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK update failure

DYKUpdateBot failed to make the update that was due almost 2 hours ago. I just did it manually. I checked and the picture file for the set is in the category indicating it has been cascade protected. However, does indicate the bot has given up on the queue it should have placed on the Main page at 16:00, rather than that it found that was no longer a problem and moved on to the next Queue? Because if so, then please protect the pic of the Romanian chappie at Commons STAT. Sorry, I really really don't understand computers. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:46, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Done. I understand 'puters, but never bothered to learn the DYK protection bot because, frankly, I don't trust it. Neither does Crisco1492. PumpkinSky talk 17:51, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Many thanks. So that was why the bot failed? It overwrites previous warnings? Gawds. Thank you thank you thank you. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:56, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure why it failed, I just don't trust it. MaterialScientist might know more. PumpkinSky talk 18:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps the better takeaway is we shouldn't trust cascade protection. See the discussion on my talk page. Shubinator (talk) 19:11, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Kafka

I'd be glad to have a go if you like. I'd prefer to let you finish working first, particularly as the PR suggests there may be a potential copyvio problem with one of the sources. If you let me know when you are done, I'll have a look, although I warn you that better copy-editors are available! Sarastro1 (talk) 20:44, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm working that issue today/tomorrow. I'll let you know.PumpkinSky talk 20:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
I've made a tentative start, and please revert anything that I mess up. I also left some queries on the talk page which I was unable to clear up myself. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:29, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the fairly slow progress so far, and I hope you are not in too much of a hurry. I have a few commitments on and off wiki over the next couple of days, but hope to finish this weekend. If I haven't responded to any replies on the talk page yet, it's because I'm still working through the article and will go back to earlier parts at the end. Hope this is proving useful. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:09, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
No worries, I need a few days on the refs too. YOu're doing great and many thanks.PumpkinSky talk 20:17, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
A translation would be greatly appreciated, as my German is, sadly, non-existent. Sarastro1 (talk) 16:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm just about done, I think. There are a few points left on the talk page, but anything I've struck is OK now in my opinion. You may want to get Brian or Malleus to have another look now as I'm sure they will see things that I have missed. Let me know if you want me to look again at any point, and I'll probably have another check through in a couple of days to see if there's anything else. Thanks for asking me to look at a very interesting article. I'm actually going to go and get my hands on some Kafka now that I've read this. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:58, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

I was going to ask them when you're done. I have the Stach bio on the way and am waiting for the other volumes to be available. Thanks for helping! PumpkinSky talk 22:00, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Done. Left a few general queries which aren't particularly prose related, just things that struck me as a general reader. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I'll be transparently blunt

PS - I'm getting the distinct impression that you think I'm picking on you or retaliating for something. First, to be clear, I never interacted with you in your former account. Second, I've had Kafka on watch for years. Maybe you don't know this about me, but I write about literature, in particular about modernist literature, so I've been excited to see the page grow. One day I idly looked at a diff as it popped on my watch, saw a sentence sourced to the NYT and thought it looked interesting, pulled the source and read all 11 pages of it. You've just swapped out that source. I was also interested in the information about Knopf because I started Boni & Liveright; maybe you don't know this but in the 1920s only two publishers worked w/ Jewish writers. Being interested I looked at the source thinking I could find something to add to the Boni & Liveright page. That's when I stumbled across the e-book and mirroring situation. I was afraid to say anything; afraid it would be taken the wrong way (we were, after all co-competitors) – which apparently is the case. But the thing is this: I am doing you a favor! And I feel bad about doing that. I shouldn't. I can ignore the slights that have been made against me recently at WP:TFAR and the veiled comments at the Core Contest, but in the long run, keep in mind that I've stepped up to do you a favor before you go to FAC. Enough said. I'm off to take care of my pneumonia. Truthkeeper (talk) 00:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

" that you think I'm picking on you or retaliating for something" Not at all, you're mistaken on that. I appreciate the help. I have not been able to think of what I did to make you feel that way, but whatever it was, I apologize. PumpkinSky talk 01:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
TPSers...she apologized over on her talk page, all is well.PumpkinSky talk 09:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Article you requested per fair use

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8oNGznL4G9ibXBOc29ZSXpWbG8

Please let me know when you are done. Churn and change (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

That errors out, but I got it from OhanaUnited's link over on the request page. Thank you for trying. I do appreciate it. PumpkinSky talk 02:16, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 September 2012

TFAR

Thanks for that. Is it appropriate for me to support? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:41, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes. PumpkinSky talk 09:49, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Image license question

PumpkinSky, is there an image license suitable for Misplaced Pages that allows people to share the image but not modify it? • Jesse V. 19:20, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Is this an image you took/own? Do you want to use some sort of free license? PumpkinSky talk 19:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
I am trying to get an image for the Vijay Pande article. Yesterday he sent me a portrait taken by a private photographer, so he owns the copyright. I gave him some license options and he replied that he preferred one that could be shared but he preferred that they not be able to alter it. • Jesse V. 19:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
See commons:Commons:Licensing for license talk in plain language, not lawyer-ese. For your purpose, Public Domain is out of the question. You can see at that Commons link says derivative works must be allowed, which means someone can crop out a section, etc. Other options for Commons/EN wiki are GFDL and CC. Also see an example of the "attribution" license is possible, see more details on that here: File:Ocean Grove organ.jpg. If this person doesn't want anyone to "alter" it, I'd not recommend any of the free licenses in this case as he'd probably not be happy. That leaves Fair use, which you can use on EN wiki but not Commons. For how to use that on an image, you need a FUR-Fair Use Rational for each article it's in, see example here: File:Boy Scouts of America universal emblem.svg. Personally, I try to avoid fair use if at all possible. PumpkinSky talk 19:59, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Deleted images check

Could you check the deleted images of Psychonaught and see what the copyrighted images were that were deleted? One of his images is in an FAC — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:16, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

WOW. This guy had roughly 75 deleted photos. What exactly are you looking for? PumpkinSky talk 11:06, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Of the roughly 75 deletions, just by looking at file names, at least 15 are drug related. You may also want to look at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Drug lists of Psychonaught PumpkinSky talk 13:29, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Let me look at the reasons....PumpkinSky talk 13:42, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Reasons other than out of scope (just from looking at file names for drug-related ones): no source=1, missing essential info/license=1, duplicate=1. I guess you saw his talk page on commons too. I'd be wary of this guy. PumpkinSky talk 13:52, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Anyti0me~ PumpkinSky talk 16:43, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail

I am sorry but I must decline your request to perform another review on this nomination at this time. Since February, when a special date request I had made for the 100th anniversary of Arizona statehood was bumped to a different date, there has been a persistent pattern of my nominations receiving unfavorable treatment at a disproportionately high rate (my image proposals are consistently rejected and roughly half my hooks with a strong geographical association are scheduled to run in the middle of the night). This has prompted a reevaluation of the amount of time I am willing to spend helping do the grunt work needed to keep the DYK system running smoothly. Nothing personal, but my time has been reallocated to other activities. --Allen3  22:50, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

You commented there and I certainly don't have anything against you. I was just trying to help a newbie out. I'll put a comment there that you decline further participation in that nomination. I do understand how frustrating wiki can be. PumpkinSky talk 22:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
hello again. gee, the wiki world certainly is filled with a lot of intrigue. I've never been entirely sure what a DYK is - but people seem to want to have their work in that category. If it is simply an honor of some sort, I suppose that I am grateful to you for having promoted it as such. If having the DYK nomination fail, and it doesn't affect the Brow Monument article's ability to live on, then just having the information out there in the world is very satisfactory to me. You've been of immense help in getting it to this point and if you feel that pushing further will result in more 'intrigue', then I'm satisfied as is. (oh, and one other small favor and you can refer me elsewhere for the answer. I uploaded a new photo to wiki commons that shows the original rock cairn associated with the historical site - my photo. I have been trying to figure out how to tie it to the article. In the article, there is a section that says Wikimedia commons has media related to the article. by clicking it, it goes out to a gallery. how do i get the new pic into that gallery? http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Brow_Monument_-_Historic_Rock_Cairn_Survey_Marker.jpg

thanks again bill polkAbearfellow (talk) 23:12, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks and no problem. Yea, wiki is sometimes like trying to decipher a black crystal ball. To have a commons photo in your article, add it like a EN wiki photo, it'll "show through", that's what commons is for--any image there can be used on all wiki language projects. A successful DYK gets your article on the main page (see lower left of main page any time. PumpkinSky talk 23:17, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
{talk page watcher} I have added "Category:Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail" to the image on the Commons and now it will appear in the related gallery there. -- Dianna (talk) 00:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
wow, thank you. i tried to figure out how to do that (after i'd already finished with the descriptions on the original upload) but i couldn't figure out a way back in to the category section. Is a talk page watcher the rupert giles of wikiworld?Abearfellow (talk) 00:12, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Just helping make things a little less cryptic. -- Dianna (talk) 01:09, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 01 October 2012

/* Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail */

thanks for everything. i couldn't have done this without you. bill polkAbearfellow (talk) 23:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

no problemPumpkinSky talk 23:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Beaverslide

Updated DYK queryOn 4 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Beaverslide, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Beaverslide haystacker (pictured) is named after Beaverhead County, Montana? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Beaverslide. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail

Updated DYK queryOn 4 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail (geo disc pictured) still has a survey marker placed by John Wesley Powell in 1872? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Core Contest!

Second Prize - Core Contest
Congratulations for sharing in second prize in the August 2012 incarnation of the Core Contest! Your voucher will be on its way soon.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm genuinely surprised. I've asked Gerda about using it to donate a Kafka bio to a library. PumpkinSky talk 15:48, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Mighty fine work! Binksternet (talk) 15:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
You were inspiring, thorough, inventive, - and now came up with a creative idea to use the prize, - Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Congratulations!..Modernist (talk) 17:26, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you everyone, I really appreciate it. PumpkinSky talk 17:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Congratulations!SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:51, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I love our shared star! Thanks for all you put into it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
I love it too! Thank YOU! PumpkinSky talk 22:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Reiner Stach

Updated DYK queryOn 5 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Reiner Stach, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Reiner Stach has written two of three volumes of his massive Franz Kafka biographical trilogy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Reiner Stach. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk) 00:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Image

Could you please protect File:Giants Grave. - geograph.org.uk - 243538.jpg for DYK? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:49, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

It's got trickle down protection from that special category.PumpkinSky talk 20:29, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
typo PumpkinSky talk 22:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Not today at least ;-) Still don't trust it. PumpkinSky talk 23:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Some more:
  1. File:Darwinius masillae PMO 214.214.jpg
  2. File:Common rocket frog with tadpoles crop.JPG
  3. File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-1990-1004-021, Berlin, Bundestagssitzung im Reichstag, Helmut Kohl crop.jpg
Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:53, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Yikes. One had trickle down protection, two didn't. Glad we don't trust the bot ;- ) PumpkinSky talk 17:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Today's featured article

Are you allowed to have more than 1 article for the main page at a time, because I have seen you have.

If you mean DYKs, yes, several users have had more than one at a time. PumpkinSky talk 17:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Well yes and no. That's not what I meant, but thanks for telling me. No, I mean featured article.--Lucky102 (talk) 19:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Then I don't get it. There is only one FA on the MP at a time, so how could anyone have more than one at same time (same day)? Please elaborate. PumpkinSky talk 20:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
I do not mean the same day. I mean, it's like the DYK. You had more than 1 nomination for the main page at a time. Also, I made a mistake at TFA/R, and I'm a bit worried.--Lucky102 (talk) 20:29, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Oh yea, nom all you want at TFAR, though some like to impose the 5/10 limit. What mistake? PumpkinSky talk 20:31, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Can you, so you are allowed to have 2? 5/10 limit, do you mean the maximum amount allowed. I accidently removed Hanged Down and Quarted and replaced it with my own.--Lucky102 (talk) 20:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Yep, I've had 4 up at TFAR at one time, maybe 5. I'll go fix it, I'm sure it was accidental.PumpkinSky talk 20:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Imzadi already rv'd you. Go put yours into slot 1, 4, or 5. PumpkinSky talk 20:40, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
K, thanks!--Lucky102 (talk) 20:43, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Just clarifying, you can have as many TFA/R's as you like?--Lucky102 (talk) 20:45, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
(watching) your question is a bit unclear. (TFA/R's? TFARs?) You are probable able to read rules on top of the nominations page and the discussion on its talk? The rules are questioned. There is at present a limit of 10 nominations for dates and five for no specific date. Up to that limit, you (personally) can nominate as many as seems good to you. I (personally) think the 10/5 limit is not a good idea, but didn't fight it (yet) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
I mean TFA/R. Thanks! Also go to my talk page, Gerda, you were mentioned.--Lucky102 (talk) 21:08, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Coming from there, giggling a bit. (Why TFA/R not simply WP:TFAR as the shortcut?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/American Heart (song)

Tony hasn't done the QPQ yet. --George Ho (talk) 23:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Oops. Will fix. Tks. PumpkinSky talk 23:23, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Now there is the QPQ, finally. --George Ho (talk) 02:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK hook prep sets should have only six hooks

PumpkinSky, you've just put seven hooks into Prep 4, and there should only be six in prep sets currently; in fact, there's discussion to decrease the number of hooks or frequency of sets at the moment. This is the second day in a row you've included seven instead of six in the final set, so I wanted to be sure you were aware of the proper number going forward: it's awkward to have to demote a promoted hook because there's no open slot to move it to. Thanks for keeping this in mind going forward. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:03, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Disagree, that's too small and messes up the layout, to which I posted a bit ago.PumpkinSky talk 16:15, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
We formally switched to six a while ago, so I reduced this to six per that change. If we need to go back up for layout purposes, then something's going to break unless another adjustment is made, since we're not getting hooks approved fast enough (or even new ones at that rate). I'm posting to that effect on the talk page, if the Wikimedia servers ever let the edit go through. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:49, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your help regarding "Pezband"!

Hi! I appreciate your assistance in helping us to properly license and attribute the photo "Pezband Live.jpg" to the Misplaced Pages page for Pezband. I'd not done this in the past, so your assistance is greatly appreciated by all. Best, Chuck Stack, aka CStack3

No problem. I just cleaned up the old tags and such for you on the image.PumpkinSky talk 21:37, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
Dear PumpkinSky, thank you very much for helping me and the band Pezband to update their Misplaced Pages page! Your assistance in helping us negotiate the photo license process was invaluable, and we are very pleased with how the page turned out. Very best, Chuck Stack (CStack3) and Pezband! CStack3 06:10, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you and no problem.PumpkinSky talk 10:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 08 October 2012

Help needed with nominations

Would you be up for reviewing any of the following nominations?

Your assistance would be much appreciated. Prioryman (talk) 07:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Kafka promotion

I have only just noticed this (obsessed with my own small preoccupations). Double honour - first CORE, now FA. Warm congrats to you and your conom for a first-class addition to the encyclopedia. Brianboulton (talk) 23:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Why thank you, and thank YOU for a superb PR review and copyedit. PumpkinSky talk 23:21, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Beautiful job you, Gerda, and other editors did on Kafka article. I did a bit of insignificant work in its earlier incarnation; its come a very, long way since then.(olive (talk) 23:49, 15 October 2012 (UTC))

Thank you.PumpkinSky talk 00:21, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Congrats on the FA! Well done, Sir! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 00:30, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you.PumpkinSky talk 00:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 October 2012

MathewTownsend

Given that you know more than anyone just why resurrecting the CCI issues of 2010 hits such a raw nerve even two years later—and since you of all people can't be accused of being part of some imagined Raulist-cabal at FAC—would you be willing to try to talk MathewTownsend down from the Reichstag he's spent the last two days climbing? Those involved, for reasons immediately obvious to anyone who was there, don't want to restart this particular war; however, he's repeatedly grabbing the wrong end of the stick and assuming this reticence relates to some kind of elaborate conspiracy. He's throwing increasingly rabid allegations around in a lot of high-profile venues, and seems to be taking every attempt to explain the situation as a pretext to launch a fresh wave of attacks on anyone nearby. (I believe he's the first person I've ever expressly told to get off my talkpage, and even the ultra-meek Moonriddengirl has reached the point of telling him to go away.) He seems to be a good-faith editor who's just too proud to back down; if you think he'd listen to you, could you try to explain that sometimes, when things happen on Misplaced Pages without explanation or public discussion, there's a good reason for it? – iridescent 21:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I can try to help, though I have not interacted with him much, but I don't want to go in with only bits of the story. About all I know is there's some dramafest over at WP:TFAR. Is this what you're talking about? You mention many venues. What are they? Can you give me more info, diffs, thread links, etc? PumpkinSky talk 22:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
  • I think he should be told that it's better to follow a "its better safe than sorry" principle with ILT. We don't want another drama fest like... well, October 2010 (sorry, Psky).  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:23, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
  • I've thought highly of MT, though he's a bit quirky, but then we all are. I hope you can do it. He's one of the ones I look to carry the weight after we throw from failing hands the torch and all that, in other words, the next generation of writers.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:31, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
It stems from this thread at TFAR; as you may recall, this article passed FAC in a purely plagiarised version but for long, tedious post-Sherwood reasons never went through a formal FAR so is still technically an FA (Truthkeeper has written a potted history of the issues around it here). Truthkeeper removed it from the requests queue, on the grounds that there's no possiblity it would pass and keeping it live was just reanimating a particularly unpleasant dispute; Mathew appears to have taken this as some kind of elaborate conspiracy (the purpose of which isn't clear, unless it's some kind of anti-Beatrix Potter cabal), and is posting increasingly wild accusations laced with abuse—initially on Mark Arsten's talk (Mark is a wholly innocent party in this), then on my talkpage, and after being warned off my talk has gone back to Mark, to the TFAR talkpage (I'm not sure he realises that MRG, who he's accusing of being part of the conspiracy, is a WMF staffer who is clearly losing patience with him), and on his own talk (everything from here down; permalink so may not be up to date), a fishing expedition to WP:Editor Retention, another thread at MRG's talk, and finally to Rschen7754. Given that he's now stepping on a lot of toes—and I can see a lot of people who are normally very patient beginning to get extremely irritated with him—I'm hoping you (or someone else watching your talk) can talk him down. For obvious reasons, nobody is realistically going to believe that you're part of a conspiracy with Truthkeeper, Nikkimaria and Moonriddengirl, and you have both the authority of "former arb who knows how and why things sometimes happen in the background"*, and the experience to explain why the "preserve all history" and "delete all copyvios from the history" are mutually incompatiable. – iridescent 22:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
*I know I am as well, but I really have no desire to engage with him any further. If the 'real' arbs get involved—and I can safely assume they're aware—there's only one way this will go, and it would be a shame for that to happen. – iridescent 22:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
(post-ec add) Wehwalt, you'd probably be a good choice to explain this as well; there are legal issues here (explained on my talk), and you also can't be accused of part of this particular conspiracy. – iridescent 22:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
From a quick glance, all I can say is what a mess. My memory is jogged--he did the GA review for Noel F. Parrish in the closing days of last year and I got along fine with him then. Now allow me to wade through this so I can see what's going on.PumpkinSky talk 22:56, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Yeah… And they wonder why they have a shortage of volunteers to spend three hours a day seven days a week for two years dealing with nonsense like this. – iridescent 23:10, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm not about to say I've got every nuance of this now, but I do feel I have enough info now to comment. I did not know of the Moppet article issues from before--much of that was after I left. Writing something up now. As bad as this is, I can tell it could get much worse.PumpkinSky talk 23:39, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Posted on his talk: User_talk:MathewTownsend#The_Moppet_issue PumpkinSky talk 00:17, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for trying to explain. I can't pretend that I know what you're talking about and all the initials and worries about "privacy concerns" confuse me as do the long explanations elsewhere. I notice that it was discussed in 2010 to take the article to FAR and I can only wonder why nothing was done then and why nothing is being done now. If only I could explain to you how confusing wikipedia is. Old users may think they are explaining their positions, but their obscure terminology fails to convey what on earth is going on regarding that article and others. I'm sorry that Truthkeep88 fails to extend to me the good faith that is supposed to be given. Her long explanations, filled with personal history, only create more confusion for me. Best for me just to stay out of anything that has to do with TFA, FA, and probably any GA review that is likely to go to FA, as many of the articles I've reviewed in the past have become FAs. Thanks again. Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Wiki can indeed be confusing. I hope I was of some help. One piece of advice is that if you find an area of wiki stressful, try to stay away from it. PumpkinSky talk 16:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I'll follow your advice. As I said above I'll avoid all articles that may be nominated for FA or GA. I'll avoid FAC and GA reviews in the future. I'll avoid having an opinion on any opinion board, even if I'm asked. I'll avoid all policy, guidleline and essay talk pages. Any place I'm personally attacked I won't respond and will avoid that page forevermore. I won't ever ask any questions again. Thanks for your advice. MathewTownsend (talk) 16:14, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Anne Hutchinson

I think you should amend your statement there that {sfn} is the way to go in your view. All that's required is consistency, but who knows what the way to go is off this sinking ship. And while I'm here, and in a really smoking bad mood, I wish you'd have a look, carefully, as I've suggested a number of times at the Kafka page and cites that don't match the text. It's a very big problem and will come back to bite you. Consider this a friendly warning. Oh, btw, thanks so much for getting Mathew off my back. Could have dealt with that myself, though. Truthkeeper (talk) 02:23, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Amended that statement. As for Kafka, yes, you said that but you're not being specific and I'm not seeing exactly what the issue is as in "this ref XYZ doesn't match this statement ABC", so if you would be specific that would help. You also said you'd help find refs, which I was pleased to see you willing to help, and so stated at the time. Did you find any? I've also added dozens of Stach refs and found better ones for other things. Did you notice that? Gerda and I are still working on it even though the FAC is over.PumpkinSky talk 02:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for amending the statement. Re Kafka, I am being specific, and am very displeased the comments didn't make their way to the FAC page where I should have posted them, but quite frankly was afraid (and people are worried about incivility, but not worried about editors who edit in fear!). So specifics: they've been mentioned multiple times. Some examples off the top of my head (because I no longer have the page on watch) - the material in regards to erzahlung cited to Pawel I can't find in Pawel; the material cited to local Auroura newspaper about the local theater company is not by any stretch of the imagination a scholarly source and furthermore doesn't mention middle-German; the source from the community college appears to be class notes by a prof; not published material, not a scholarly source. I suggested getting a Cambridge Companion and see that the one used and linked appears to be readable as ScribD or whatever that is: I strongly suggest reading it. I do have sources, have had them for some weeks. Gerda told me to add; I'd prefer to send them on. Even better would be for you to do a good source search and request what you want so that I don't have to spend my time (better spent creating my own content) searching for sources. Truthkeeper (talk) 13:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
So you took the Kafka article off your watchlist but are now here bringing up issues? See Talk:Franz_Kafka#Points_to_clarify where you posted your issues and to which Gerda and I responded to in the thread but you failed to respond in that thread to our responses; towit as an example-re the erzahlung point, Gerda responded and asked you a question but you never answered it in that thread nor did you respond to our other comments there. To most users that would indicate you are okay with the status, but now you're over here complaining about it. On the Aurora thing, yea I missed that and just swapped it out with a Corngold book - who is certainly a German scholar of note. I'm sure Gerda will look into the erzahlung issue. You suggested I get Stach and I did and added dozen of refs from it. In fact, I'm still going through Stach as I do have a real life. I simply can't spend all day reading about Kafka even though I'd like to. You have sources but want us to add them for you? Or us to find out what you know on our own when you already know the material and its sources? That sounds highly inefficient and reinventing the wheel to me. Now please take this to its proper venue, Talk:Franz Kafka. PumpkinSky talk 15:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)