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This article was created per consensus here-- — Keithbob • Talk • 03:24, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

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The lead needs to be expanded to summarize the entire article. Help is welcome and appreciated. Thanks.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 03:24, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Lead for Transcendental Meditation in education article

NOTE: THIS THREAD HAS BEEN MOVED FROM TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION MOVEMENT ARTICLE, NOV 9/12 EMP (talk) 18:14, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Here is a draft intro section for TM in Education article, which might also do as a replacement for the TM in ed section in this article (with redirect to the article, of course).

The TM organization has founded or inspired elementary, secondary and post-secondary schools in various locations of the world including the USA, Europe, India, Australia, Africa and Japan.

The popularity of Transcendental Meditation in the United States received a major impetus from the enthusiastic participation of students at college campuses across the country in the 60’s and 70’s. Many elementary and secondary schools in the US have incorporated TM into their curriculum. Public reaction has ranged from concern to acceptance and praise. The organization established Maharishi University of Management in 1973 in Fairfield, Iowa. It offers accredited bachelors, masters and doctoral programs. On the same campus, Maharishi School of the Age of Enlightenment offers kindergarten through grade 12. Its students have won a number of awards in state-wide, national and international academic competitions. In Europe, Maharishi European Research University has operated since 1975. It is located in Vlodrop, the Netherlands, where Maharishi Mahesh Yogi made his home from 1991 until his passing in 2008. In England, the government supports a Maharishi School. In India, between 90,000 and 100,000 students in 118 cities are enrolled in Maharishi Vidya Mandir Schools, and Maharishi Ideal Girls Schools, which offer elementary and secondary education. The TM organization operates several post-secondary institutions in India, including Maharishi Institute of Management, which has branches in five cities.

TM-based schools in South Africa and Australia have gained public recognition. --EMP (talk) 23:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks EMP. I think it might be important to include the Malnak vs Yogi case here... as well the content I bolded is too specific in my mind, and also may be a bit on the self congratulatory side to be neutral. Just my opinion, of course.(olive (talk) 23:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC))

imo Keithbob's paragraphs are a good summary of the topic for purposes of this article and the lead for the new article. I also agree with EMP's addition and Olive's comment about the highlighted sentence being too specific for a summary/lead. Regarding Malnak, is it the case that current US school projects are in all private schools? I am not sure Malnak should be included in this article's summary. And as of right now, I don't think it should be included in the lead of the separate article because it seems the inclusion in either place gives undue weight to the decision. It might be appropriate to mention in the body of the separate article what the situation is concerning TM in US public versus private schools, discussing Malnak in this context.Coaster92 (talk) 04:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your insights, Olive and Coaster. Here's a 2nd draft. Will wait re: Malnak vs Yogi to see what others think.

The TM organization has founded or inspired elementary, secondary and post-secondary schools in various locations of the world including the USA, Europe, India, Australia, Africa and Japan.

The popularity of Transcendental Meditation in the United States received a major impetus from the enthusiastic participation of students at college campuses across the country in the 60’s and 70’s. Many elementary and secondary schools in the US have incorporated TM into their curriculum. Public reaction has ranged from concern to acceptance and praise. The organization established Maharishi University of Management in 1973 in Fairfield, Iowa. It offers accredited bachelors, masters and doctoral programs. On the same campus, Maharishi School of the Age of Enlightenment offers kindergarten through grade 12, and has been fully accredited since 1987.

In Europe, Maharishi European Research University has operated since 1975. It is located in Vlodrop, the Netherlands, where Maharishi Mahesh Yogi made his home from 1991 until his passing in 2008. In England, the government supports a Maharishi School.

In India, between 90,000 and 100,000 students in 118 cities are enrolled in Maharishi Vidya Mandir Schools, and Maharishi Ideal Girls Schools, which offer elementary and secondary education. The TM organization operates several post-secondary institutions in India, including Maharishi Institute of Management, which has branches in five cities.

TM-based schools in South Africa and Australia have gained public recognition.

--EMP (talk) 05:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

To answer Coaster's question, I believe the current Quiet Time projects in the US are mainly in public schools. Note that Malnak only applies to the US, and the judgment only to New Jersey. In an article that is explicitly about school projects worldwide, it may not be relevant to include Malnak in the lead, given its narrow focus. I think we could omit "enthusiastic" in the proposed text, and also "gained public recognition" may sound promotional. TimidGuy (talk) 12:03, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi everyone, thanks for your participation on this thread. I think this is a good discussion but I'd like to suggest that EMP move this thread to the Transcendental Meditation in education talk page. Meantime, I would really appreciate some input on the thread above this one which proposes that the education section of the this article (TM movement) be moved to the new TM in education article. Thanks to all. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:31, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

TimidGuy's statement about the scope and applicability of Malnak v Yogi is, as usual, completely wrong. The judgment is not limited to the State of New Jersey; the permanent injunction issued in that case is specifically binding on the US Department of Health, Education and Welfare, and any other political subdivision or agency of the US Federal Government. Fladrif (talk) 17:39, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Could you point out a supporting source for this information Fladrif. Thanks.(olive (talk) 17:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC))

Here's what the judgment says: The movement is permanently enjoined "1) From the teaching, aiding in the teaching (including but not limited to the providing of teaching materials), and the solicitation of any municipality, school board or other political subdivision or governmental agency of the State of New Jersey or of the Federal Government, for the purpose of promoting the teaching of any course of study which embodies and advocates any one or more of the Science of Creative Intelligence/Transcendental Meditation, the concepts of the field of pure creative intelligence, creative intelligence and bliss-consciousness; 2) From the use of the textbook entitled Science of Creative Intelligence for Secondary Education--First Year Course -- Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment (or its substantial equivalent) and; 3) From the practice of the Transcendental Meditation or of the puja ceremony as heretofore practiced or performed (or the substantial equivalent of either), in any public school in the state of New Jersey...." I'll let others parse it. TimidGuy (talk) 18:16, 9 November 2012 (UTC)