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| :::::::Michael, a review of your talk page will clearly show that you were subject to sanctions. And I find it laughable that Ignocrates, who so far as I can tell has done little if anything other than try to start and continue disputes, tries to criticize someone else for doing what seems to currently be his sole purpose. Pass a Method can certainly check the ArbCom records for the Ebionites case, and as I said before I think Jayjg has much reasonable comments than either of the above. And the attempts at mediation failed, honestly, because of the tag-teaming and I thought, and still think, pathological devotion to fringe theories of 2 of the 3 parties involved constituted stonewalling. I have never changed my opinion regarding that, and I think Jayjg might even agree. | :::::::Michael, a review of your talk page will clearly show that you were subject to sanctions. And I find it laughable that Ignocrates, who so far as I can tell has done little if anything other than try to start and continue disputes, tries to criticize someone else for doing what seems to currently be his sole purpose. Pass a Method can certainly check the ArbCom records for the Ebionites case, and as I said before I think Jayjg has much reasonable comments than either of the above. And the attempts at mediation failed, honestly, because of the tag-teaming and I thought, and still think, pathological devotion to fringe theories of 2 of the 3 parties involved constituted stonewalling. I have never changed my opinion regarding that, and I think Jayjg might even agree. | ||
| ::::::In any event, to Pass a Method, I think thae Jayjg will also be able to indicate that I had serious questions regarding Ignocrates's objectivity, but even after what I thought and still think was willful harassment on his part, chose not to pursue them on the noticeboards because of his, to my eyes, impaired judgment. I say this as an indicator that neither I, nor anyone else, will actively seek action against someone provided their problems do not become too problematic to others. I once again suggest that you seek assistance with your own problems. I think Adjwilley might well be the best person for this task, given that your relationship with him is probably your closest, and least problematic on, here. ] (]) 02:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC) | ::::::In any event, to Pass a Method, I think thae Jayjg will also be able to indicate that I had serious questions regarding Ignocrates's objectivity, but even after what I thought and still think was willful harassment on his part, chose not to pursue them on the noticeboards because of his, to my eyes, impaired judgment. I say this as an indicator that neither I, nor anyone else, will actively seek action against someone provided their problems do not become too problematic to others. I once again suggest that you seek assistance with your own problems. I think Adjwilley might well be the best person for this task, given that your relationship with him is probably your closest, and least problematic on, here. ] (]) 02:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC) | ||
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You did very nice edits on Many-worlds interpretation! Welcome to wikipedia! --DenisDiderot 10:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks DD -- glad you liked it. Thanks for the links. I'll probably confine myself straightforward textural edits for the near future whilst I get the hang of the metatools.--Michael C Price 12:09, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
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over/underlinking
Could you take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Linking#What_generally_should_not_be_linked_--_can_we_bring_this_to_closure.3F
The "one link" rule/enforcement has gotten out of hand, I'm trying to get something closer to rationality. You've opined in the past, and I wonder if you could chime in once more. If the proposed langauge is something you'd support, I'd appreciate that too. Thanks Boundlessly (talk) 21:40, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Question
Out of curiosity, has John Carter also been harassing you? If so, that makes four the number of editors John has been harassing. Pass a Method talk 11:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Not recently, since I've been semi-retired! IMO JC is a mostly civil POV pusher, which is the most insidous sort, of course, since it damages article quality in ways hard to repair. He did try to form a tag team, once, to get me permabanned, but it failed when the covert nature of it was blown. -- cheers, Michael C. Price 12:54, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- What type of POV does JC have? Pass a Method talk 13:27, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Roman Catholic. -- cheers, Michael C. Price 13:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information. Pass a Method talk 21:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Roman Catholic. -- cheers, Michael C. Price 13:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Pass a Method was blocked (for the 3rd time) for edit warring recently by another Admin (John Carter wasn't involved in the article). And isn't just John Carter who has disagreed with him recently. Several editors have reverted him at various articles and I warned him for a misleading edit summary and reverted some of his edits related to Raelianism. This is relevant also. Don't get me wrong, John's not perfect, but as almost always, context is key. Dougweller (talk) 13:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Michael, you failed to mention in your groosly inaccurate, and frankly grossly dishonest, statements above your own history of outright POV pushing regarding your beloved Robert Eisenmanand his widely rejected opinions regarding the Ebionites. That is, basically, the only subject regarding which I have had previous dealing with you, and, frankly, as can be seen from the Arbitration records, the only person who has been sanctioned regarding that matter to date is you yourself.
- The best person to contact regarding this matter is actually neither Ignocrates/Ovadyah, but User:Jayjg. He tried to mediate the discussion involving both of those editors, which proved impossible given the POV pushing of both of them. He is also something that I believe neither of those two parties is, which is someone who has the trust and respect of the wikipedia community regarding matters of policy and guidelines. He is also familiar with the conduct of both of those editors and myself regarding this subject. And, as Pass a Method knows, I think most people would agree, in general, my POV is toward that of the best independent reliable sources. Sadly, neither Michael not Ignocrates can really say the same thing. John Carter (talk) 15:51, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
- Inaccurate, as ever; same old John, eh? Yawn. -- cheers, Michael C. Price 23:13, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
- Speaking of frankly grossly dishonest, two attempts were made at mediation with Jayjg serving as the mediator. Both attempts ended, unsuccessfully, when John Carter unilaterally withdrew from the mediation process. Ignocrates (talk) 00:06, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- I suspect this may be yet another attempt by John Carter to revive a dead dispute. Let's put an end to this nonsense and move on. Ignocrates (talk) 00:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- Michael, a review of your talk page will clearly show that you were subject to sanctions. And I find it laughable that Ignocrates, who so far as I can tell has done little if anything other than try to start and continue disputes, tries to criticize someone else for doing what seems to currently be his sole purpose. Pass a Method can certainly check the ArbCom records for the Ebionites case, and as I said before I think Jayjg has much reasonable comments than either of the above. And the attempts at mediation failed, honestly, because of the tag-teaming and I thought, and still think, pathological devotion to fringe theories of 2 of the 3 parties involved constituted stonewalling. I have never changed my opinion regarding that, and I think Jayjg might even agree.
- In any event, to Pass a Method, I think thae Jayjg will also be able to indicate that I had serious questions regarding Ignocrates's objectivity, but even after what I thought and still think was willful harassment on his part, chose not to pursue them on the noticeboards because of his, to my eyes, impaired judgment. I say this as an indicator that neither I, nor anyone else, will actively seek action against someone provided their problems do not become too problematic to others. I once again suggest that you seek assistance with your own problems. I think Adjwilley might well be the best person for this task, given that your relationship with him is probably your closest, and least problematic on, here. John Carter (talk) 02:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- John, you need to seek asisstence with your patronizing tone. Pass a Method talk 10:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- I suspect this may be yet another attempt by John Carter to revive a dead dispute. Let's put an end to this nonsense and move on. Ignocrates (talk) 00:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- Pass a Method was blocked (for the 3rd time) for edit warring recently by another Admin (John Carter wasn't involved in the article). And isn't just John Carter who has disagreed with him recently. Several editors have reverted him at various articles and I warned him for a misleading edit summary and reverted some of his edits related to Raelianism. This is relevant also. Don't get me wrong, John's not perfect, but as almost always, context is key. Dougweller (talk) 13:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Wikilinking
Hello Michael,
Regarding your revert of me "underlinking" Neithhotep. I was trying to make the article reflect this MoS guideline: WP:REPEATLINK. Is that particular guideline point not valid anymore or can we just pay no attention to it? --WANAX (talk) 15:25, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Michael. Since you are remaining silent, I'm beginning to think that WP:REPEATLINK guideline is not an optional one. My conclusion is that you are either not aware of that guideline or that you are ignoring it just because you disagree with it. In either case - unless you give a good reason why not to do it - I'm going to revert your edit and continue to remove overlinking (as it is defined in MoS) when I encounter it. --WANAX (talk) 09:28, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- Let me ask you a question. Do you think removing the links makes Misplaced Pages better or worse? -- cheers, Michael C. Price 11:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- To WANAX: Obviously we should follow MOS, but there are also pointless and tiresome conventions concerning formatting. "Over-wiki-linking" is one of them (others include bold/italic text, using the exact spacing and dashes; all letter for letter, word for word, line by line...). Over-linking it doesn't harm the article at all, it just makes it easier for the reader to click to an article. I do it sometimes. Ever seen Ignore all rules? Maschen (talk) 12:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
- My opinion is that too many links are distracting and make the article harder to read. So yes, removing excessive linkage makes Misplaced Pages better. See Benerib as an example. Isn't linking Hor-Aha each and every time it occurs excessive in your opinion? Maschen: I don't agree at all that those conventions are pointless. :) I think consistency is very important and personal preference is not good enough reason to ignore MoS. However I don't think it's worth the effort to argue about this issue so I'm going to refrain from removing the links (for now).--WANAX (talk) 13:26, 6 December 2012 (UTC)