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Joseph Grimaldi

Hi Pyrotec. I have recently completed the above having gone through a major restructure and a thorough peer review which is drawing to a close. If it is at all possible, I would love it if you could review it for me at GAC. It would be great to work with you again :-) -- Cassianto 23:15, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cassianto. Thanks for your invitation. I can review it, but I have four reviews (I'm the reviewer, not the nominator) underway already, so even if I sign up day, it could be November before I start doing the review. If you are happy with that, I'll take it on. Pyrotec (talk) 11:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh that is good news. Anytime in November would be excellent, no hurry for this whatsoever. My plan is to coincide Grimaldi's FAC (the Drury Lane theatre's Chrismas pantomime Clown in the 18th century) in time for Christmas. I haven't listed it at GAC by the way, as I had you in mind all along. Ping me a message when your ready. -- Cassianto 14:02, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Last minute polishing complete. Now listed at GAC. Regards -- Cassianto 17:22, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

The GAN Newsletter (November 2012)

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Terri Schiavo case

Thanks for taking the time to review the article. I've got some free time coming up this week to make those corrections. Ace-o-aces (talk) 05:20, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

GAC for Grimaldi

Hi Pyrotec, how's the back log going? -- Cassianto 17:41, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cassianto. I can signed up to review it, not a problem for me: I have two reviews "On Hold" (I'm likely to fail one due to lack of progress) and there are another two still to do. So on that basis, you would probably need to wait for about a week before anything happens. Pyrotec (talk) 17:56, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Great news, Many thanks. My Wiki time will be very scarce between 26 and 28 November as I am on a course, but can foresee no other problems after that. I have listed JG at FAC so by all means stake your claim; I would be happy with that. At least l'll know then that I won't have to endure the embarrassment in telling a willing good will reviewer "thanks but no thanks" . Secondly, great GAC reviewers are a very rare breed, so I can be assured of a very thorough review with you as opposed to one who merely wants to notch up another strike on his/her user page, thus giving a half-hearted review. All the best and speak soon. -- Cassianto 19:15, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind comments. I've now signed up to do it, but its fourth in a list of four (and I seems to be taking my wikipedia weekends off on Mondays and Tuesdays - strange that!). Pyrotec (talk) 19:21, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Witching Culture and Enchanted Feminism

Ah, apologies, I had copy and pasted the talk page info in from A Community of Witches, which had received GA status, and forgotten to remove the GA references! Thanks for pointing that out. Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:48, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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Grimaldi - thanks!

Hi Pyrotec, just another quick thanks for taking on Joseph Grimaldi. Your time spent on the GA review was much appreciated. All the best! -- Cassianto 12:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cassianto, Thanks for your note. My pleasure. Pyrotec (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback notice.

Yeah, you misunderstand my concerns. I made a lengthy post at Talk:GAN about the reasons why I quick failed it, if you need more specifics check the articles GA review.ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:15, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, I've responded in some depth. I suspect that you might not like it. I've tried hard to avoid a personal attack. Its definitely not intended as one, I've concentration only on actions, but I'm sorry for any upset that it might cause. Pyrotec (talk) 20:46, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

José de San Martín a GA?

Hi, Pyrotec. I wanted to make a few comments about José de San Martín if you don't mind.

1. Lead: it mentions an Order of the Liberator General San Martín which is no where to be seen in the main body of the article. The lead is supposed to be as summary of the article.
2. Lead: San Martín is regarded a national hero of Argentina? By whom? All the Legacy section says was tht he was acclaimed by Federals. Do these speak for the Argentine people? (see below my thoughts about the Legacy section)
3. Lead:For a character like San Martín, supposedly one of the great historical figures of Spanish South America, the lead seems short and weak.
4. Main text: Who was San Martín? Was he dark-haired? Blond? Tall? Fat? Joyful? Intelligent? Stupid? Rude? I couldn't find anywhere any description of the man. We could change the title of the article to "Argentina during the life time of an Martín" instead.
5. Early life: no reference given at the end of the first paragraph.
6. Military career in Europe: "His ship "Santa Dorotea" was captured by British forces, who kept him prisoner for some time." It was his ship or the ship he was aboard? Why was he captured by the British? They were enemies? And why and how was he released?
7. Everything else: too much to be said in here.
8. Later life: entirely written according to Galasso's Seamos libres y lo demás no importa nada. No other books could be found do add further proof or give a different perspective?
9. Legacy: a man like San Martín can have at most two short paragraphs about him in the Legacy section? The entire section is written from the point of view of one author only: Galasso. There are no other historians? No one else? No one at all?
10. Legacy: "With Mitre's book, San Martín was universally acclaimed as the Liberator of Argentina..." Acclaimed by whom? 10 out of 10 Argentines love this guy? Really? I could understand something like "San Martín is generally regarded..." but "universally"? All historians regard him like that, then? Again: only Galasso's opinion is given.
11. References: Holy s&%#! The article has four books as references? Four?!!! Could we make an article about George Washington with just four books?
12. References: There is no book in English. Why not? Historian John Lynch wrote San Martin: Argentine Soldier, American Hero. There are several other works in English about San Martín too.
13. References: Look at the references: the entire article was written almost entirely using Galasso's Seamos libres y lo demás no importa nada (see for yourself). That's all?

Well, the article should be at most B, certainly not a GA, unless the standards are very low nowadays. You shouldn't pass the article, it has to be improved a lot until it is worth the GA label. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 10:39, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Note that this guy is a little pissed off because of this deletion request. Cambalachero (talk) 13:00, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Pyrotec, I'm sorry if at some point my words may have led you to believe that I was criticizing you. I wasn't. What I was trying to point out was the flaws in the article. It is mostly based in a single source. I could have understood the lack of more sources if we were talking about a lesser Argentine historical figure. Someone that hasn't got the chance to be the focus of many biographies. But we are talking about San Martín. This is one of the greatest Argentine national heroes. And there are books in English about him. That's what I'm trying to say. Of course I will no go around complaining that the article looks awaful and that you made a wrong decision when you passed it. I'm not in here to be petty, but merely to make a comment from one good and useful editor to another. And don't worry about taking time to answer me, I know that real life takes much of out time and Misplaced Pages seems to carry away the remaining of it. P.S.: I don't have plans to nominate any of Pedro II of Brazil's subarticles. I believe they aren't good enough yet and right now I'm focused on other things. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 21:09, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Ow, yeah... I had forgotten about that war. The Argentines claim a few islands that no one cares about even though there is not a single Argentine living in it. Nor any of those islands ever belonged to Argentina (except for, I dunno, a few months back in the 1830s?). And, according to the map above, Argentina's territory was nowhere near those islands until the 1880s. That is, more than fifth years after the British had settled there. But talking a little bit more seriously: I am Brazilian and I wrote mostly articles related to Brazil. Still, when I worked in Pedro I of Brazil and in Pedro II of Brazil the main books I used as the basis of those articles were written in English. Or else, I could write whethever I want and no one would be able to check if it's true or not. --Lecen (talk) 21:53, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Take a look at this. Juan Manuel de Rosas was a brutal 19th century dictator of Argentina. He executed thousands of people. And he was the excentric type of tyrant: all men (yes, every single man) in Argentina had to wear red (and only red) and grow a mustache. It was that ridiculous. Cambalachero removed at leat ten references that backed the general view that he was a dictator. He changed for the "cute" title of "governor" instead. Cambalachero has been doing that for a couple of years now: whitewashing Argentina history. He somehow went as far as to rewrite Juan Perón's article in way that made the Argentine dictator a "president" who was not antisemitic nor was friend to Nazi as everyone knows. This why I clash so hard with him. --Lecen (talk) 22:24, 14 December 2012 (UTC)