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Thanks for comments, but lets work together to help the messaging

Ariconte, I really appreciate your edits and help. I didn't think anyone would be reviewing what I was drafting in my own space so I was worried when I got your comment that something else I've posted was problematic. I rushed to see your comment to fix my error and (being new to the site) I lost the past 2 hours of work on the article, which really sucks. Also it was really disappointing to just have negative comments on what I was working on, about two things I was doing wrong. I know I'm doing a lot of things wrong, like any new person, but I've been working on this all day about some guy I've never heard of before. I thought I was generally doing a good job with it (not perfect, but better then a lot of pages I've seen) and really helping out build our historic knowledge, but after hearing just about the things I was doing wrong, I didn't feel too enthused anymore. The extended ellipse made me think you were hiding the phrase "which sucks really badly" the first time I read it, instead of just the cultural difference it probably really is. Both of your comments were very true and will absolutely help strengthen the piece in the long term and me as an editor, which I really appreciate. But I did want to reach back to you in hopes of encouraging a better way of wrapping the message. Everyone feels bad when they're criticized, I'm sure you know exactly what I'm feeling, and I don't want your great efforts in helping new users to accidentally be pushing them away. I'm sure an experienced user would have just accepted the comments and thought nothing of it, but the hurdles to being a good writer here are really high for someone starting out. I hope us having a discussion can help both of us in the future (even if it doesn't feel really happy right now). I honestly do appreciate your help, and wouldn't be writing back to you if I didn't think that you really cared. Robin the Bobbin (talk) 00:07, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I certainly did not mean to offend! When you answer a feedback that person's user page get added to your watchlist.... so you often notice edits to the page. I saw it had changed and thought I could help by the two edits I made.... minor contributions. The note I left on your talk page was possibly too blunt; but lots of biographies get deleted because of lack of sources to show notability. It is a shame when a editor spends a lot of effort and the article does not get accepted.

I would suggest deleting the IMDB reference. The NY Parks reference is a good one. I have found others:

• A Strong Man's Work, The Washington Post (1877-1922); May 5, 1918; ProQuest Historical Newspapers: The Washington Post (1877-1996), pg. SM2
• Committee Formed to Plan John Golden Memorial, The New York Times (by John Minutoll), New York Times (1923-Current file); Jun 28, 1956; ProQuest Historical Newspapers: The New York Times (1851-2009), pg. 32
• JOHN GOLDEN DIES; FAMED AS PRODUCER: Deserted Business for Life of Theater, Chicago Daily Tribune (1923-1963); Jun 18, 1955;, ProQuest Historical Newspapers: Chicago Tribune (1849-1989), pg. 14

A library should be able to get these for you.....

Regards, Ariconte (talk) 10:01, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Just had another thought.... I hope you don't think you deleted the article???? You have just blanked the page. You can see from the history at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Robin_the_Bobbin&action=history that all previous revisions are there. Just use the undo link if you want the content back on your user page. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 10:47, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Ariconte, I really do appreciate the suggestions and see that it came from a good place, just being a new user and all I'm not used to culture and my heart sorta dropped to only hear the negatives. I know it's not a great article, but I thought it was at least a good start and showed that this was a notable person where citatable material does exist (even if I don't have access to a lot of the type Misplaced Pages feels are trustworthy).

Thanks for the research and other leads, but unfortunately library's aren't open when I have time I can devote to the site. I'll put them in the talk page and hopefully someone else who has access to a library can track them down and build on the data. In this day and age it's so crazy that the law is generally that you have to physically walk into a building to have access to history that has already been digitized. It seems like we've got our work cut out for us, since Misplaced Pages wants establishment information and the greedy establishment likes paywalls. Where do you normally go online to get around this conundrum for this type of information? I did not delete the article, but I moved it here so that I don't loose the work again when someone comments on my talk page

User:Robin the Bobbin/John Golden.

I asked the editor that I thought originally deleted the page about my copy, and he said it was alright. I also asked an editor in the theater community that has been around for a while, and I'm waiting to get his response before posting, since I know nothing about theater.

I honestly appreciate the help. I do suggest that when talking to new users, try to couch the corrections with a few positive things to keep them happy and it might help keep them involved for longer.

Thanks Robin the Bobbin (talk) 15:00, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I get my references from the State Library of NSW usually. See http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources/ for details.

Good idea to do the page in a sub-page of your user page.

When moving a page it is best to use the 'move' command instead of copying and pasteing the page . See WP:MOVE for details. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 07:31, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Help for riview

Hi, I have created one article and given for review but its not yet done. Can you please help me to review the article or can you please guide me that how much time will take for changing my article from talk page to article page ? Please refer the link and reply me in my talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mydreamsparrow/K.P.Dandapani. I hope you can help me.Mydreamsparrow (talk) 18:14, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

I am not involved in the review process so I won't do it.... It does look OK to me and I think a reviewer will be along in due course. Please be patient, Ariconte (talk) 00:19, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you...Mydreamsparrow (talk) 14:15, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Syntax Help

Ariconte, thank you for your previous help regarding my contribution. I tried to address the proposed syntax fixes regarding citations #6, 17,18, 21,22,23 for Viken Berberian. Can you please have a look and help. I'm not sure how to undo the previous syntax error messages in the citations I've tried to fix. I'm not sure how to do this manually and would greatly appreciate your help. Thank you Fountainheads (talk) 08:36, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

I tried but failed to fix it. Will try again later..... New Years socializing now. Ariconte (talk) 00:39, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Fixed, I think. Mostly moving brakets ... }}s ... to the correct place. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 07:18, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Help with talk pages

Thank you for your advice, I could not do any of this without a lot of help from the God†dly173.75.20.50 (talk) 21:30, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Your Welcome! Ariconte (talk) 23:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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	Thank you , i will read the guidance Jixian Wang (talk) 04:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC)