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:::"No, I'm not a paid shill of Stanislaw Burzynski and have no ]" is all you need to say if you aren't a paid shill of Stanislaw Burzynski and don't have a conflict of interest. I said that it is a reasonable supposition given your behaviour and given Burzynski's clinic have a history of making legal threats and attempting to make smears on social media. :::"No, I'm not a paid shill of Stanislaw Burzynski and have no ]" is all you need to say if you aren't a paid shill of Stanislaw Burzynski and don't have a conflict of interest. I said that it is a reasonable supposition given your behaviour and given Burzynski's clinic have a history of making legal threats and attempting to make smears on social media.
:::I'm perfectly familiar with the NPOV policy, but thank you for reminding me of it. I wonder if you are familiar with ]. To further the implementation of both, I've suggested that you be topic banned from the Burzynski Clinic article. —] (]) 22:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC) :::I'm perfectly familiar with the NPOV policy, but thank you for reminding me of it. I wonder if you are familiar with ]. To further the implementation of both, I've suggested that you be topic banned from the Burzynski Clinic article. —] (]) 22:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

::::Tom Morris, I live in America & will respond as I see fit, though thank you for suggesting how I should respond to meet with your approval. If you are familiar with I'm wondering why my ] grievance on the Administrator's noticeboard was not addressed, but was blocked. My posts on the Burzynski Clinic reflect that I know ] as indicated in thie links I provided as part of my grievance. I have not posted anything additional on said Article as I was expecting my grievance to actually be addressed in a professional manner. However, feel free to continue you on with your topic ban as this may contribute from they voluntary editors making more inaccurate comments; like Sgerbic (12/9/2012), Arthur Rubin (12/10 & 26/2012), JzGIGuy (Guy / JzG) 12/24 & 26/2012, & Rhode Island Red (12/2012), for example. Thank you very much. ] (]) 18:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)Didymus Judas Thomas 1/21/2013

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... Why did you hastily close this? The RIANZ does not permit any reproduction of the yearly chart material and explicitly states this on their website. This should actually be deleted as a copyright violation under G12. Till 02:34, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I didn't so much hastily close it as just close it. But, yes, I did somehow overlook that. If there is a copyright violation issue here (and I'm not sure about that...), surely it'd affect all the RIANZ articles? I'm thinking the solution is to probably discuss it on WP:CP. I'll sort that out in the morning, unless you want to do that now. —Tom Morris (talk) 02:55, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Indeed. Someone already pointed out the copyvio in a previous deletion discussion of these "Top 50" articles and was completely ignored. I'm not sure what time it is there, but here it's 2pm...Till 03:16, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
I've listed it on WP:CP. You may wish to add comments there. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:10, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
I don't know where it is, sorry. Till 12:29, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, I hope you don't mind but I have taken the issue to WP:Deletion review. Till 06:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

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This is a friendly note for future reference relating to your procedural close of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kijong-dong as being the wrong venue, directing the request to RfD instead. While you are correct that this wasn't an AfD matter, RfD was not the correct place either. If the reason for the request is to allow a page move then Misplaced Pages:Requested moves is where it needs to be listed, as that is the process set up to determine whether a page should be moved or not. RfD handles discussions regarding whether redirects should be deleted or retargetted for reasons other than being in the way of a page move. Thryduulf (talk) 10:34, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah, silly me. Sorry for the inconvenience. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:06, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Auto-generating a list of articles

Hi Tom. I wonder if you would help on a question I have. I'm not a newbie, but have never done anything like what I'm asking you about here.

I noticed that your user page has a list of articles created with the following code:

=== Articles ===
{{/Articles}}

I've noticed this on some editors user pages over the years, but have never tried to do or have something like it myself.

Question: are there any Wiki-tools to help a long-time user go back through the logs and look through ones' own list of articles created? Or maybe even articles for which very significant contributions were made?

I can see that you have a page named ":User:Tom Morris/Articles:", and that you have, from time to time, manually edited that page. My question is whether there might be some tool that would allow me to go back through my "User contributions" logs and auto-generate some candidates to look over, or even autogenerate a list of articles created that have withstood the test of time in the emergent world of Misplaced Pages.

Thanks. N2e (talk) 14:30, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

So, the Toolserver has a 'pages created' tool created by User:TParis. Your page is here: N2e. Incidentally, given you've created very close to 50 articles, you should probably apply for autoreviewed at WP:RFPERM. I'd grant it, but I haven't got time to go through and check your articles. Hope that helps. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:16, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Tom, for the very quick, and very helpful response! I'll look over that page you created, and the pages created tool, very soon.
On the other item, I've never much figured out the sorts of WP-editing-privileges someone like me, as a trusted long-time editor with a good reputation, should have, and which would be useful. So with you as an experienced admin, do feel free to suggest such things to me. In the meantime, based on your suggestion, I'll take a look over at WP:RFPERM. Cheers. N2e (talk) 15:32, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Well, autopatrolled (sorry, I said "autoreviewed") just means that if you create a new article, it doesn't appear as needing review on Special:NewPages (or Special:NewPagesFeed). That way, one of the new page patrollers can spend their time working on reviewing and improving/deleting/tagging (etc.) articles by newbies that don't need it. It just reduces the load on new page patrollers. If you don't get around to it, I'll have a check and assign it to you if everything checks out. —Tom Morris (talk) 20:23, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Well, thanks for that extra effort, Tom. I'll probably just let it run its course in the great spontaneous order of Misplaced Pages. Someone may give me that additional editor characteristic when the time is right. In the meantime, I certainly have no problem with someone checking over my new articles to ensure they are kosher. Cheers. N2e (talk) 03:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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I am currently cleaning up the backlog over at Editor Review and I found this in the backlog. As it is no longer posted on the main page at Editor Review, I was wondering if I should remove it from the backlogs and put it to rest or if I should repost it for community review. I will remove it from the backlogs three days from now if I am not given a response.—cyberpower Offline 23:22, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

There probably is very little point restarting it now. Archive away! Thanks for asking. —Tom Morris (talk) 00:34, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I will remove it now.—cyberpower Offline 00:55, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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Whack!

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Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

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Much appreciated. Tom Morris (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion for user page User:Nick2crosby

Hi Tom, I wanted to let you know I deleted Vermont,Virginia,and Maine off of the user boxes. I just put those on because I used to live there. So I just took them off. Also I was born in China. So therefore I am native to that land. - Nick2crosby (talk) 19:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.253.100.23 (talk)

No Moar Dramah

Tom Morris, I wanted to commend you for your post on the WP:NPOV WP Administrator's noticeboard. Adding to the motivation for that discussion, I have to wonder about your motivation for getting on your WP:SOAP soapbox & making your statement: "This might lead one to think that Didymus Judas Thomas is a paid advocate working for Burzynski. Or not." You're entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is not based on "facts," but just your inaccurate speculation. I would suggest that if you have to put "Or not" after it, it probably was not worth bringing up in the first place, because WP doesnt need moar dramah, & no, i didn't mumble when i typed that. Thank you very much. Didymus Judas Thomas (talk) 10:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Didymus Judas Thomas 1/20/2013

Let's see: Burzynski has lawyers/PR folk who have been known to spend their time, oh, suing critics. And someone who seems to be using the same persona as you spends a lot of time posting blog comments defending Burzynski. One does not have to be Sherlock Holmes to suggest that the glove might fit the hand... —Tom Morris (talk) 12:13, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Tom Morris, thank you for your biased WP:SOAP soapbox comments. Let's see: I note you provide no cite(s) for your "Burzynski has lawyers/PR folk who have been known to spend their time, oh, suing critics" comment. In the past I have requested that WP post information not exactly flattering to SRB & that has not been done as well, nor any reason provided as to why it has not been posted: "Please add: (Inspection section?) 6/7/2001 Inspection of clinic, Dal-DO/San Antonio Resident Post, HFD-47, Good Clinical Practice Branch II, Division of Scientific Investigations, CDER (FACTS #213702) . Didymus Judas Thomas (talk) 12:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC) Didymus Judas Thomas. Please add: 10/18/2012 Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, Food and Drug Administration, Antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 Injections MA #1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Didymus Judas Thomas (talk • contribs) 14:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC) DJT, it's not enough to post links, you have to argue why (and how) they should be added to a page. Where would, for example, the Form 10-K be a useful source? What statement could be sourced with it? --Six words (talk) 14:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC) 6/7/01 doc lists what issues the FDA inspection team had with the clinic and recorded everyone present, questions that were asked and answered, and data on the patients. Didymus Judas Thomas (talk) 16:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC) Didymus Judas Thomas 12/7/12. 10/18/12 this doc is important because it shows the results of the FDA's review of the business' web-site and the information that needed to be changed. Didymus Judas Thomas (talk) 16:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC) Didymus Judas Thomas 12/7/12"
Therefore, your biased comments serve no purpose since you do not know if I'm retired or not, where I live, what I do, cite no WP policy relevant to what I do on my own time, you have no idea if I just enjoy debating people who do not support their assumptions with "facts," & you would be a liar were you to rely on any non-fact-based assumptions. Nor have I made biased statements like some of the editors: "We are told that 2013 will be a big year, but apparently his plan is to release another bullshit movie not to publish useful research. Guy (Help!) 21:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)"
WP:CONS indicates: "This page documents an English Misplaced Pages "policy." Therefore, WP is clear & unambiguous re WP:CONS being a "policy." WP:NPOV indicates: "The principles upon which this policy is based cannot be superseded by other "policies" or guidelines, or "by editors' consensus." Therefore, WP is clear & unambiguous that WP:NPOV is "not" "coequal" with WP:CONS, but "supreme" to it, & that WP:NPOV "cannot" be superseded "by editors' consensus." . Yet volunteer & Admin editors are attempting to do just that. There would be no reason for WP:NPOV to state "by editors' consensus" if this "policy" did "not" supersede WP:CONS. Thank you very much. Didymus Judas Thomas (talk) 21:40, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Didymus Judas Thomas 1/20/2013
"No, I'm not a paid shill of Stanislaw Burzynski and have no conflict of interest" is all you need to say if you aren't a paid shill of Stanislaw Burzynski and don't have a conflict of interest. I said that it is a reasonable supposition given your behaviour and given Burzynski's clinic have a history of making legal threats and attempting to make smears on social media.
I'm perfectly familiar with the NPOV policy, but thank you for reminding me of it. I wonder if you are familiar with WP:MEDRS. To further the implementation of both, I've suggested that you be topic banned from the Burzynski Clinic article. —Tom Morris (talk) 22:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Tom Morris, I live in America & will respond as I see fit, though thank you for suggesting how I should respond to meet with your approval. If you are familiar with I'm wondering why my WP:NPOV grievance on the Administrator's noticeboard was not addressed, but was blocked. My posts on the Burzynski Clinic reflect that I know WP:MEDRS as indicated in thie links I provided as part of my grievance. I have not posted anything additional on said Article as I was expecting my grievance to actually be addressed in a professional manner. However, feel free to continue you on with your topic ban as this may contribute from they voluntary editors making more inaccurate comments; like Sgerbic (12/9/2012), Arthur Rubin (12/10 & 26/2012), JzGIGuy (Guy / JzG) 12/24 & 26/2012, & Rhode Island Red (12/2012), for example. Thank you very much. Didymus Judas Thomas (talk) 18:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)Didymus Judas Thomas 1/21/2013
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