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I've let some comments on the review page. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for the GA review at History of Edinburgh Zoo! The article was fun to work on and your comments were clear, professional and helpful.

Noiratsi (talk) 09:22, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! It was a fun one to read, too. -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

B.J. Stokvis GA review

Thanks for your kind review of Barend Joseph Stokvis. I have adopted your recommendations, and am looking forward to any further comments. Regards. JFW | T@lk 15:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Whoa, thanks for the Barnstar, and for your help with the review! JFW | T@lk 15:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure. -- Khazar2 (talk) 15:24, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Gary Johnson review

Thanks for the review, granting of GA status, and the barnstar! yonnie (talk) 21:39, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure, thanks for writing it. -- Khazar2 (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Subject you may be interested in

Hi Khazar, perhaps you'd be interested in writing (if you're feeling healthy) something like Death penalty for migrant workers in the Middle East or whatever unwieldy title matches. From The Jakarta Post: 280 Indonesian migrant workers on death row in the Middle East; most "found guilty on charges of murder, drug smuggling and using black magic", and some "were found guilty of killing their employers to fend off rape attempts". — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

That's pretty wild. I've got a lot of projects running at the moment, but I'll put it on my to-do list. Thanks for showing me this one. -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:41, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

• I thought you'd find it interesting. I may just do it as Migrant workers in Saudi Arabia, which would have a slightly different scope. ITN/C has an example from Sri Lanka right now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:58, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

• That seems like an even better idea. I know there's lots of material out there on migrant workers there generally. Ping me if you do create it, I'll be glad to try to pitch in. -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:01, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

• Alright. My on-wiki focus ATM is Darah dan Doa, which the good evil doctor started as a stub and is canonically among the most important Indonesian films. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

• Looks like an interesting one. Have you seen it? -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

• Not yet :-( It may be relatively easy to find, if I look (I think it's on YouTube) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

• Mentioned you here, related to the above. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:50, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:Articles for deletion/GatherSpace

Hello, I wanted to invite you to comment on this AfD, WP:Articles for deletion/GatherSpace, given that you previously edited the article. Thanks. Logical Cowboy (talk) 20:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Johnson

Regarding this, although I did not write that phrase, I think it's worth keeping. This was no normal election, and that should be stressed to the reader.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:57, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

The previous sentence talks about secession, so I think it probably doesn't need further repetition; it's not a big deal to me either way, though. Feel free to restore for now if you like. -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:06, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

I did. It's the sort of thing I'll give up on if there's further concern though. The other changes look fine though I tweaked one or two of them. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:15, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

After further thought, I've removed it.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:03, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	It's fantastic to see you helping other editors keep their spirits up (and nice that you've almost done more GA reviews than me in less time). BTW, I'm working on my own paper (again...); if you want a read, I'll send it to you when I'm done. In the meantime...  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:01, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'd be glad to take a look. And thanks! So far I've really enjoyed GA reviewing; aside from a few dump-and-run submissions by first-time editors from college courses, seems like almost everyone there is a dedicated content contributor, and I'm learning a lot reading their articles. Also seems to have the best content-to-drama ratio of any part of WP I've worked in, which is a nice bonus; the one-to-one set-up avoids the long-term clashes of personalities that seem to build up in the other projects. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Just so long as you avoid WT:GAN when the threads start piling up. That link up there's just to show you the new plot section, which I finally fleshed out. I think you've read that already. BTW, discussion at Talk:Saudi Arabia seems to be heading towards the creation of an article on foreign workers. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:12, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, that's the plan--not even on my watchlist. The DDD article seems to be coming along nicely, kudos. The images are a new addition, too, right? -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:16, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Right, the only free image we have of Usmar Ismail (although there's probably more if I bother to go the archives) and a free ({{PD-text}}) screengrab. I added Saudi Arabia after looking at a case on AN/I, a bit of edit warring there. Argh... as I said to MRG, never a boring day on Misplaced Pages. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:24, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Reportero

Hey. The movie wasn't available for me for the past few days until I checked a while ago, so I'm barely going to watch it. Thank you and enjoy the week! ComputerJA (talk) 03:27, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I haven't gotten around it yet either, actually--sick wife and kiddo. Tomorrow the latter at least is back to daycare so perhaps Mrs. Khazar can be talked into some Mexican journalism. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:31, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

That's very unfortunate; it's that time of the year when everyone gets sick ... I was sick on and off during the whole break, probably because I'm not use to cold weather (55F, LOL).

Enjoy the film. It's pretty good, and there were some rare clips and facts I didn't know about. Cheers. ComputerJA (talk) 05:06, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Scullin review

Thanks for your thorough and well thought-out review of my James Scullin article. I'm sorry I did not notice the review sooner, but regardless there is clearly some work to be done to bring it up to scratch. When I am more at liberty I really hope to be able to make this at least GA worthy, and yes, I will certainly be glad for your assistance at a future stage. I have been on wikipedia for ages on the sidelines and now am making a concerted effort to contribute more meaningfully, and I feel this is best done by contributing at least GAs, and hopefully FAs eventually. Thanks again, Unus Multorum (talk) 11:03, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure, and I'm glad to hear you're going to continue working on it. GAs or FAs on some of these Australian political topics would be a huge contribution! Feel free to drop by here anytime with questions, and once you've started revisions on Scullin, I'd be glad to give it another readthrough if you'd like more comments before renominating. Your work is very appreciated. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:07, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Foreign workers

I've started the page, probably gonna go at it for another hour at least. Webcite isn't working right now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:16, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I love that site, but hate how often it goes down. I'm going to finish an expansion at Pauli Murray and some open GA reviews, but should be able to pitch in on that tomorrow morning/afternoon US time. Thanks for starting it. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:23, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Don't mention it. I'll try and get this to about 3k or so tonight. The DYK nomination can wait until it's a little more fleshed out. I have a test on poststructuralism tomorrow *weep* — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:31, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Good luck! -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:37, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:56, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, 3.5k characters is good enough for now. I think the abuse/scandal section is looking the best... but we need some positive stuff. I left a prospective outline at Talk:Foreign workers in Saudi Arabia. The Human Rights Watch source still has some good stuff. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:42, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy birthday, MLK

And thanks, Khazar2, for your work on the Martin Luther King, Jr. article. There's so much material, we could work on it forever, but it's great to see some progress made towards concision and clarity. I'm hoping to chip in ASAP. Love, groupuscule (talk) 23:30, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! Can't believe this one hasn't been brought up to at least GA status long before this, but perhaps editors have been intimidated by the prominence of the article? Anyway, it'll be great to try to take it the rest of the way. -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:47, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

I wanted to add a thanks for your work on the Martin Luther King, Jr. article, thus far. After getting it up to GA status, I hope you will consider the RFK article. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 20:50, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Hoping that one will be done soon. I'd love to tackle RFK at some point in the future, though for now the goal is to get through all of the most popular WP:WikiProject Human Rights articles. -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Technical Question about how to edit

I have an idiot question. I found a typo in a reference here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Giuseppe_Castiglione_(Jesuit) (The correct spelling is Richard Barnhart) But I don't understand the format that the reference is, so I can't correct it. Curious1949 (talk) 20:24, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Not idiot at all! I fixed it--looks like the title also had a misspelling. You can see more detailed explanation at how reference templates work at Misplaced Pages:Citing_sources, if you like. The short version is that the template has a certain number of parameters that you fill in (author=, title=, date=, etc.), and it spits out the citation in a certain format. -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:05, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi!

Hey Khazar, good job with MLK. Glad to see you up to some heavy lifting. If you like the environment, you may find The Mirror Never Lies a good read (although not nearly as influential).

As to my main point... Tom Hanks meets Meg Ryan. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm on some new meds that seem to be helping me read for longer periods, which has obviously been a help in research. And on the same note, I'll look forward to reading those, too... -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:47, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

• There's one last one I'm doing now. I kinda like it, although I doubt one could get it published in the US. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:49, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Eh, f*** the US, then. -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

• LOL. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:10, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh - Thank you for the Barnstar.!

Thank for the star and am getting on with creating a whole set of pages for the Amnesty International UK Media Awards - Award Types - Awards by year - you can get an idea by accessing the Work in progress from Here. It's taking some time having to both research back into the a 22 year history or awards ... and check all the relevant and present realities. The best one so far is finding an electronic press release from 1992 ... doesn't sound much, but the net had only been public for a few months, so that makes it like finding and intact mammoth in Siberian Ice! P^) In net terms It's ancient and like an artefact from ancient Egypt.

I have noticed that there are a number of neglected and badly managed Human Rights related articles that will need to link to the new pages and updated content - and I will evidently be busy long after the ground works are finished. I'm updating some of the most egregious issues as I progress ... but it is all very messy and the Bias (Systemic is far too gentle a word) is quite shocking as well as disturbing! If I flagged every page I found there would be an extra 200 plus at the moment on the hit list - and I've only back checked from 2000 to 1992 - 9 years and the infancy of the Net so a limited level of data and pertinent sources have been found. BUT, if I find yet another page with references to US centric awards with links that cite none us awards and which have been "Deliberately" ignored by the editor ... I may just scream and consider if all US editors should be required to declare a complete conflict of interest on all Wiki content! At times the deliberate omission are beyond shocking.

Again - Thanks for the Barnstar - I had no idea there was one for Human Rights - and there is a desperate need for a Barnstar dealing with Systemic Bias! ... in fact a full constellation or galaxy may be needed ... Hmmmm the "Galactic Barnstar for Countering Systemic Bias" ... has a ring to it! P^) --TTFN-- Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 14:30, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome; thanks again for your work. I saw some of it in your sandbox via your contributions page and am looking forward to seeing it go "live". And I agree, lots of human rights related articles are simply a disaster, especially anything outside the US/UK. You know, if you haven't already, you should think about signing up for WP:WikiProject Human Rights; it's a pretty quiet WikiProject, but a few of us are trying to get it more active again. A lot of university students writing articles seem to drop by there, too. In any case, keep it up, and happy editing! -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:44, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

What? - University students with library access and articles on tap? I could get used to that! A private reference army ... just what is needed! P^) --TTFN-- Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 20:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

• Not to mention a lot of people who read different languages :-) (you know, in case you want to cover Russia or something) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:41, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Message received

Hello, Message recieved. Oh well, yeah, I just usually don't do a whole lot but when it comes to quotes and commas and periods, I'm trying to get those right. In England, they do different, so now I have to go back to a page and change some stuff back. I'm not writing any whole pages yet, but good luck on yours.IraChesterfield (talk) 22:12, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

There's an endless need for good copyediting on Misplaced Pages, so thanks for your efforts! -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Pullies to pulleys

I am curious why you and others keep attempting to change the item 'woolly pullies' to 'woolly pulleys' using AWB in the article Royal Observer Corps. This has happened several times in recent years and although it is easily fixed it remains a nuisance. A pulley is an item of mechanical equipment used in a block and tackle ... it bears no relation whatsoever to the British rhyming abbreviation for pullover (or jumper). Can the AWB spellcheck be amended to take this into account? Many thanks. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 02:09, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) Try WP:AWB or a related page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:10, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

• This is the place. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:11, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

• I caught AWB's mistake and left the "pullies" spelling in the article, but didn't realize AWB still put that change in the edit summary. (Unless I'm overlooking a second instance?) Sorry for any confusion that caused. If this has happened before, one thing that would stop AWB from picking it up would be an invisible sic template. I'll add one in a moment. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:17, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I noticed you hadn't actually changed it this time but others have before. Thank you for your efforts, much appreciated. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 03:15, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Named reference help on Palestine-Israel page

Thank you for the way you've managed this.--Soulparadox (talk) 04:06, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome--but the thanks really belongs to the wizards who design WP:AWB! Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 04:12, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Dwarf (Dungeons & Dragons) at WP:GA

Hey, just a heads up, I found the correct section for listing this: Board, card and role-playing games. It's pretty tiny and hence easy to miss, but hopefully I'll continue filling it up. Cheers. —Torchiest _edits 22:31, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks for double-checking that. -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:32, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem. On a related note, I just noticed your user page's links section for referencing. That is excellent. —Torchiest _edits 23:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I find it handy to have those to cut-and-paste with. Saves a lot of time when I'm on an editing binge... -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:07, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

• You're not the only one. For pages I cite often (the database filmindonesia.or.id comes to mind) I just copy existing cites and change the parameters as necessary. BTW, how's MLK going? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

• It's on the home stretch, thanks. The article got a burst of activity on MLK Day (two days ago) so I think the reviewer's giving it a day or two to make sure everything's stable. Seems like we're just about there, though. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

• That explains the feedback which I can barely understand. I've yet to see that tool used properly... they say you need more pictures, or that it needs to be simpler for "kindergarten students", or "needs some better facts"... And of course, there are people who like pie. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:24, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

• Lol. This is a great example of why I voted for the feedback tool's death in the latest RfC on it. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:31, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

• As Tom Clancy says, to paraphrase, if they had polls back in Biblical times Jesus would have gone back to carpentry. You've done a fantastic job. BTW, there's yet another RFC — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! Honestly, that one was pretty much ready to go. I just did a copyedit, cleaned out a bit of dead wood (movies, trivial awards, etc.), and nudged it toward the goal line. Be great to see it get up there, though. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:39, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

• Like — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

I normally steal old citations I've built and modify them, but having the date automatically up-to-date is super fancy and useful. I also cite HighBeam a ton so I'll be copy/pasting from here a bunch now. That feedback is pretty funny and sad btw. —Torchiest _edits 02:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

James Innes GAN

Khazar, I believe I have addressed your concerns at Talk:James Innes (North Carolina)/GA1. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to improve the article. Cdtew (talk) 02:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks for getting to that so fast! I'll take a look tonight or tomorrow. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:57, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for bringing Martin Luther King, Jr.‎ to Good Article status. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:07, 24 January 2013 (UTC)