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Third opinion on SHSH blob

Hi Mkdw! Thanks again for helping out with the third opinion request for SHSH blob. The second editor and I have discussed aspects of the article further, and it'd be great to get another opinion again. If you're a bit busy or not interested, just let me know and I'll list a new request for a different third opinion. Dreamyshade (talk) 22:19, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dreamy. Sorry, I haven't checked on that discussion in awhile. I checked back and it looked like it had moved onto a discussion about finding reliable sources. Was there anything in particular you wanted me to comment on? Mkdw 23:05, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

I think the discussion would benefit from another opinion on the usefulness of the iH8sn0w source, the suitability of the primary sources warning tag, my suggestion for fixing the COI problem, and the dubious tag for the software developer blogs. Dreamyshade (talk) 23:19, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Yunshui 雲‍水 12:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much!

Hi Mkdw. Thank you so much for your encouraging review of my new Misplaced Pages page about David Chater: "Article off to a great start"! I'll try to add a little more to it when I have time. All the best to you - Zhu Haifeng (talk) 09:07, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Multi Chevrolet

I think Multi Chevrolet is a dealership in New Jersey based upon a WP:SET and should not be a redirect. Mkdw 09:15, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing something, that it's an individual dealership means it probably should be a redirect. It doesn't seem likely to merit an article (and in any event, certainly not a copy-paste of the base chevy article). WilyD 09:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah okay, I took it as spam WP:R#DELETE #4. No problem. Mkdw 09:25, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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cole duey

I was not intending to attacking the subject in any way. I did not appreciate what you did to the page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmrafting (talk • contribs) 00:07, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

The page clearly contained fictional and untrue facts about an individual. Whether it was your intention or not, it was highly inappropriate. This sentiment was seconded by the deleting admin. Mkdw 00:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Greg Bollom

What can we do about this Greg Bollom character? There's no talk page so can we just block the account? His edits are getting rather tiresome. Headhitter (talk) 09:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll leave him a message and we'll see what happens. Mkdw 09:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I see you now have done: thanks.Headhitter (talk) 09:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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User:Pratikshapatil

See this, which suggests either sockpuppetry or at the very least a concerted effort by the company to canvass links, hence the strong warnings issued to all offending parties. OhNoitsJamie 14:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

That certainly is a very concerning find. I understand based upon your findings. Mkdw 21:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Thank you for reverting vandalism done to MattyBraps wikipedia page. BTO98 (talk) 20:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks BT098, that's very kind. Mkdw 21:30, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Arms Too Short To Box with God Quote

There was a mistake in removing the part where CM Punk told The Rock that his arms are too short to box with God. That was a reference during their promo on Raw this past Monday night and I was there when he said it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.100.117.43 (talk)

Hi. If you think it's relevant to the article you may reintroduce it at anytime. I recommend that if you have a source that supports your statement, that you add it next time. I would also be leery of content that may appear promotional in nature in case someone else mistakes it as spam. Mkdw 03:14, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Shark In Your Mouth! Deletion

Hi i'm a noob in wiki, i wanna know why the band in my article "does not meet Misplaced Pages's notability guideline when it comes to bands."— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommisiswono (talk • contribs)

I recommend you read WP:BAND. It includes information and criteria regarding notability. Mkdw 07:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Your Arms Too Short to Box with God

Hi, Mkdw. Just wanted to alert you I've left a 3RR message at User talk:71.100.117.43, who continues reverting to the same WP:INDISCRIMINATE pro-wrestling trivia that two editors, you and myself, have removed from Your Arms Too Short to Box with God. I would also note, re his posting above, that "I was there when he said it" is an original research claim unsupported by outside citation. --Tenebrae (talk) 11:30, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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Pokemon

Sorry 'bout that, googled too quickly and misinterpreted what I saw. I've restored your speedy tag. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 04:54, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

That's alright. Nice photo of BC too! Mkdw 04:57, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Not my photo, unfortunately, but I'll take it as a compliment to my taste :P –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:09, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

James Gwyn information

Hello! I've noticed that you have helped the James Gwyn page a lot since its inception, so thank you for that, I, along with Mweberh and a few others, did a research project on James and as a final step to the project began the Misplaced Pages page. We happen to have two Google Docs with our biography of James (with citations), as well as a large amount of primary sources. I'd love to be able to share all of the information to help improve the article. Problem is, I don't know where I should put the links to the Docs...on this talk page, or on the talk page for the James Gwyn article? I would handle the implementation myself, but it would probably be better if someone with experience like you or others in the Wiki community handled it. thanks again! Marioscout (talk) 05:51, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I'm glad we have a chance to talk. I came across the newly created page via someone on the IRC. They originally inquired about deleting it but I thought it could be salvaged. As you may know, Misplaced Pages has some fairly important policies and guidelines articles must adhere to so I helped in that regard. I did some trimming to make it more encyclopedic and adding some contents. You will be happy to know I've completed the B rank assessment and have applied for Good Article. Also, I've nominated a sentence from it for DYK that could be displayed on the main page if successful!

I would love to get my hands on those references. As a measure of GA, all information must be accurately referenced by reliable sources so I had to remove some content that likely had a source but where I could not find one. I inquired about documents to an admin and they recommended WikiSource to upload documents. I contacted Woodlands Cemetery and they provided me with the original grave card for James Gwyn so I thought about uploading those there. If you upload them, let me know and I'll take a look. We can look at how the information can be used according to WP:PRIMARY. Mkdw 06:26, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Sean Bockla

Hello, I've reverted the speedy nomination at Sean Bockla, since it says he heads an organization which has visited schools nationally, been on an HBO series, etc. Notability is low though, so you might want to take it to AFD. Thanks, Altered Walter (talk) 08:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I re-added the CSD. Could not find a show called the 'true life of child actors' or any close variation. Also, if you look at the twitter account it has three tweets and does not provide any information that would suggest that it travels all across the United States to schools. Furthermore, a search with his name and AntiBully (the name of his organization) comes up with no hits. Mkdw 08:07, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I perform WP:BEFORE on all CSD tagging. I restored the CSD and left my comments at Talk:Sean Bockla. I think unless a source can be found that supports whether or not there actually is an HBO series called 'true life of child actors' (I could not find any), or that Sean is associated with @AntiBully, or even that it tours schools nationally (the twitter account has 3 tweets from 2009; no links) then I would like an admin to review the CSD. It seems very likely this is a hoax and under BLP the information should be untrue if a verification check has been performed and netted no results. Google books, news, and scholar reveal no hits and a general search only show social media hits. His claims as a television actor do not even lead to IMDB as a bare-bare-minimum even though its user submitted content.Mkdw 08:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Those are all excellent reasons for deletion, but not for WP:CSD, either on A7 or as a hoax. But I'll leave it to the reviewing admin. Thanks, Altered Walter (talk) 08:18, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I read what you wrote on the talk page, but I think it was a straight WP:CSD#A7, no credible claim of importance or significance. The only claims of significance were the TV appearances and the forthcoming play, and I don't find them credible. I think the key sentence was "Sean began opening every kind of Social network he could think of... ", and I have explained on his talk page that Misplaced Pages isn't another social-network and pointed him to WP:NAY and WP:YOUNG. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

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Norwegian child

She came back again, avoiding the salting by using lower-case. I have salted that one, too. After consideration, I removed from her talk page your suggestion of submitting via AfC, because I don't think we should encourage so young a child to post information about herself. I provided another explanation for her of why WP is not for writing about oneself, with links to WP:NAY and WP:YOUNG. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem. AfC would likely have led her to WP:REQUEST anyway if she noted it was about herself. WP:YOUNG was a good point to bring up. Cheers, Mkdw 23:20, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thai Auto Industry

Thanks for sprucing up the intro, and thanks a lot for the DYK nom. I feel appreciated, which is always nice. See you around and thanks again.  Mr.choppers | ✎  08:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure. You did an excellent job getting the article started. Also, I noticed you made the article in your sandbox so I have petitioned an administrator to split the edit history so all your old edits before November 25, 2012 are not included in the article history. Cheers, Mkdw 08:36, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for James Gwyn

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email

Mkdw -- I sent you am email. FYI! User: Katie Krumsieg Katie Krumsieg (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Concerning BattleCards

Good day, Mkdw. You've declined the article about BattleCards, on the reason that such already exists. But the point is that these are to completely different games with the same name. The project I described has little in common with the already existing article. What should I do, aren't there a possibility in the wiki to add two articles with the same name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergey Shuklin (talk • contribs) 17:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sergey. Thanks for submitting your article for review. The answer is yes. Usually when two articles share a name the second article will use brackets for example, BattleCards (video game). The article still has quite a bit of work to go and would have been declined on the grounds that it still needs reliable and independent sources for much of the material. The article also reads like an advertisement. If you have any questions, feel free to ask here. Mkdw 23:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposed Ethel Myers article (rejected for the moment)

Dear Mkdw,

My apologies. Somehow I got confused in my first time use of the "sandbox." Certainly the Myers' article was not ready for a formal posting onto Misplaced Pages. I was just concerned to make sure I saved the starting work I was doing to develop a proper page. Your rejection of what I had done so far was perfectly correct. A while back I had created a page for Jerome Myers, but not using the sandbox tool. I just kept trying different formatting ideas most of which I learned from going to other pages for other artists and clicking on their "edit" buttons where I could then look "under the hood" to see how they accomplished their attractive formatting. I would then copy one piece of code and text (switch the page back to "read" that I have visited), then go back to my edit page and paste it in. Then I would play with it, changing the text to my text and adjusting other elements to see what would happen when I looked at the results in "preview." This sort of trial-and-error approach seemed an ideal way to experiment and learn, and by doing so I got a much better hang of how things are done in the magical world of Misplaced Pages. If you take a look, I think you'll find the results of my Jerome Myers page turned out quite well. I have been told by a number of experts in the art world that it has been very helpful to them in looking back at certain aspects of American art at the turn of the century.

I have been a delighted user of Misplaced Pages and greatly admire what it has been doing in creating this enormously useful research resource. I do think there may be even better ways to introduce and involve newcomers in how to go about creating their own pages. There is much information about creating pages offered in Misplaced Pages, but some of it is a little daunting to find. More real life examples of actual pages and how they are put together and evolve might be a definite help. Also possibly an assortment of actual forms filled out that were used to upload photographs, etc. I had tried searching for the term "inherit" in Misplaced Pages to see if I could find an example of someone who had inherited pictures, or other graphics that they wanted to upload to the Commons, or using the Upload Wizard as a sample of what I might want to do.

Didn't mean to be so long-winded. Congratulations on what you're doing and the help you're giving others. BEDownes (talk) 01:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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Help

That was not my Question. I want another help, which was listed above. I want a jpeg of Priyanka Chopra from 58th Filmfare Awards.Prashant  Conversation  08:19, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

You could try using {{Image requested}} on the talk page but your request is very esoteric so I think there is a very small chance someone will have a photo specifically from the 58th Filmfare Awards. I would not advise using {{help}} for such a unique request. The people who respond to those templates are usually people who give advice about Wikipolicy and editing tips -- and not so much a resource for sourcing photographs or taking photos of celebrities. Mkdw 08:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

No....No.....I don't need that image for 58th filmfare awards but I want it for Priyanka Chopra awards list article as I want to use that picture in the infobox. Please, upload one if you can find from Bollywood Hungama.Prashant  Conversation  08:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

I think we're having a language barrier problem. I didn't mean put {{Image requested}} to find an image for the article 58th filmfare awards. Your initial request was for an image of Priyanka Chopra from 58th Filmfare Awards which means a photo of Priyanka Chopra taken at the 58th Filmfare Awards to be used on whichever article. The article List of awards and nominations received by Priyanka Chopra already has a photo of her and the article Bollywood Hungama does not have an image of her to use. I don't have a photo of Priyanka Chopra, in general or at the Bollywood Hungama, nor will many Wikipedians, so I advise you use the template I suggested to see if other editors have the photo you're looking for. If you want an image from a website you need to make sure its a fair use or free use image, or obtain the copyright to use it on Misplaced Pages. Does this answer your question? Let me know, Mkdw 08:30, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.Prashant  Conversation  08:43, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

About MatchMove page

Dear mkdw, The Matchmove page is a new page, and very different from the previous deleted page, I didn't use any ad words or sensitive content. And our company is the latest Red Herring global 100 winner (2012). I appreciate if you can review the page again. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terrynfs (talk • contribs) 10:48, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Terry. Welcome to Misplaced Pages. As I pointed out on your talk page, there seems to be a very strong conflict of interest regarding this company. While the wording may have changed, it is clear that you are largely here on Misplaced Pages to both promote the Matchmove company and their products. I highly recommend you use WP:REQUEST to have the article created if indeed the subject is notable. Furthermore, despite the assertion of notability via the Red Herring award, the article requires a wide variety of independent and reliable sources. If you have any questions, I know Misplaced Pages can be hard to navigate, but you can ask questions at WP:HD. On a side note, based upon a preliminary look at the product articles and company articles, even with the award, it does not seem the company meets the criteria set in WP:CORP. The award is impressive, but again, if they have not attracted widespread coverage from multiple reliable and independent publications where the company is the direct subject then you may have to wait until a time when if should the company gain more notability, an article could then be created. Mkdw 10:55, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

My intentions

I have no intentions other than contributing to WP with an objective approach and a positive attitude. You can ask me -in my talk page- anything about each and every one of my contributions in WP. Maybe with the exception of some silly newcomer edits in my very first days I can explain -I hope- everything else. Note: This open check is only for you. (You reminded me the grand jury in that film where everybody but one was ready to hang the suspect and return to their petty affairs ASAP. I watched the film several times but I cannot remember the name now. If I can, I will tell you.) Congratulations for being the way you are and thanks for being there. All the best. --E4024 (talk) 20:00, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem E4024. Admittedly I am not familiar with the controversies occurring outside the AfD but I thought I would step in to comment on the process that an article can and should be nominated for XfD regardless of any declined CSD on the grounds of notability concerns -- and that it is not a bad faith nomination to do so. Regardless of what happens, hopefully the others will stick to other points besides that if they feel the nomination is invalid such as our notability policies and guidelines. Mkdw 20:07, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

(stalking)On several occasions I have undone a CSD due to weak but available sourcing, only to go on and vote "delete" at the subsequent AfD. There's nothing wrong with that. Ritchie333 22:49, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Andy Higgins (footballer born 1993)

I have reverted your close, this was completely inappropriate for a NAC. GiantSnowman 09:15, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Giant. Would you please be able to specify how this was an inappropriate NAC closure? There was a 5 keep and 2 delete discussion where the delete camp argued the effectiveness of WP:NFOOTBALL and the keep camp citing WP:NFOOTBALL as met by him playing on an A-League listed at WP:NFOOTBALL. A delete result seemed clearcut to not be a likely result and thus under the NAC appropriate closures criteria. Mkdw 09:24, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Because it wasn't a clear a keep outcome, there was debate over whether he actually met NFOOTBALL or not. He's never played in the A-League so unsure where you're getting that from... GiantSnowman 09:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I received that information from line one of the article, "Andrew Higgins is an Australian footballer who currently plays for A-League club Perth Glory as a midfielder". Unless the wording is incorrect and should be, Andrew Higgins is an Australian footballer who currently does not play for the A-League club Perth Glory as a midfielder, or belongs to the A-League club. The very verb of 'plays' inherently describes having played. WP:NFOOTBALL states "A player who signs for a domestic team but has not played in any games is not deemed to have participated in a competition, and is therefore not generally regarded as being notable." From both camp arguments at the AfD, he has in-fact played in a league cup game imbalanced the delete arguments making it a clear-cut keep outcome. I'll differ to an admin closure but do not see it as "completely inappropriate". Mkdw 09:42, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Where does WP:NFOOTBALL mention cup games? This player may meet the spirit of NFOOTBALL, but not the letter. You have completely failed to understand the policy you are trying to implement, and I have even less faith than before in your NAC here. GiantSnowman 09:53, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

No need to be incivil Giant. I'm simply discussing the interpretation. The fact that it does not say 'cup' and simply says 'any game' is technically inclusive of cup games. Mkdw 09:54, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not being uncivil, I'm trying to help you understand why your NAC was wrong, and why your interpretation of NFOOTBALL is wrong. It talks of playing in fully-professional leagues only, not cups. This is where the AfD debate has arisen, and hence why you should not have closed as a NAC. GiantSnowman 09:58, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarity. You can understand when I took it as such with wording like "completely inappropriate" and "completely failed to understand". Mkdw 10:07, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

No problems, apologies if I seemed overly-harsh, not my intention. GiantSnowman 10:11, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:FPL quotes an old version of WP:NFOOTBALL. FPL is also not official policy or guideline, it is only an essay. GiantSnowman 10:29, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

XfD

Hi there. I see you are an experienced user on deletion requests. I believe Harutyun Bezciyan does not meet the notability criteria. I see that so clearly that the other day I proposed its speedy deletion. It was not accepted. I think it should be discussed in Articles for Deletion. I recognise my lack of experience in this area and am very disturbed by some users' to be accused of bias (to put it politely, because indeed I was accused of "bad faith") and am hoping, if you or Richie or anyone else thinks the same way about the notability of the person, to begin this deletion discussion. (BTW I am very surprised about the accusation: Mr Bezciyan seems to be an Ottoman philantropist who made a hospital and a school in Istanbul. Why in hell somebody would have a "bad faith" POV against such a person? If it were about Hitler, I could have a negative POV but still would not propose deletion because he is quite notable.) As you may understand I feel intimidated, or at least disturbed, so I pass the ball to whomever would be interested. If I am wrong about the notability issue, please do tell me so. --E4024 (talk) 10:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)