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Mediation Case: 2006-05-18 Iraq War

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Request Information

Request made by: Zer0faults 20:49, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Where is the issue taking place?

...Talk:Iraq_War#Opening_Paragraph

Who's involved?

...Myself Zer0faults 20:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC), User:Mr. Tibbs and to a lesser extent User:Wombdpsw

What's going on?

...User:Mr. Tibbs insists the casus belli for the Iraq War was WMD. However the term casus belli states "formal declaration of war" the closest thing being [http://italy.usembassy.gov/pdf/other/H.J.Res.114_RDS.pdf HJ Res 114(PDF) which is the Congressional document "To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq". He instead keeps posting links to what Powell said to the UN via CNN interviews and articles. The whole discussion is encompassed in trying to find a way to make the Iraq War articles opening paragraphs NPOV. I have tried finding middle grounds by offering to state all reasons for war, or none, and simply added that there were reasons other then WMD. None of those 3 compromises worked as he insists the opening paragraph he wrote stays the way he wrote it. He has even reverted stuff by User:Wombdpsw without stating a reason in the history.

What would you like to change about that?

...I would like User:Mr. Tibbs to at consider a middle ground, its WMD as reason and only reason or nothing it seems.

If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?

...webmaster@anarchys99.com however discreetly isnt particularly necessary.

Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?

This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do

what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.

...Sure if I know of the topic and feel I won't have a bias.

Mediator response

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Comments by others

I would like the mediator to be aware that a very similiar situation just happened on 2003 Invasion of Iraq. In fact a vote was attempted to try and cease the edit war. A vote on the same issue was also conducted on the Iraq War page. Despite the community consensus showed by the vote Zer0faults continued to revert claiming that a "majority on talk page is not suitable grounds for removal". I think a similar straw poll could also easily resolve this dispute, but I am concerned that given Zero's history he will again refuse to abide by it. I would also like to note that I am unwilling to argue endlessly on various talkpages like Zero apparently wants. Also note the editwars on these pages regarding the same "Part of the War on Terror" phrase: Waziristan War, United States invasion of Afghanistan and similiar articles listed on this template: Template:War on Terrorism. -- Mr. Tibbs 21:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Really all thats need here is a simple straw poll initiated and monitored by an Admin Stating "Users who think the casus belli of the 2003 Invasion of Iraq was WMD" and another column for those who don't. But I am unwilling to let an intro that was forged by a group effort to be churned up so flippantly. -- Mr. Tibbs 21:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

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