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In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 66.87.7.141 (talk) 23:19, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!--Nado158 (talk) 13:11, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

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		You are among the top 5% of most active Wikipedians this past month! 67.80.64.128 (talk) 22:46, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

An award for you

Golden Wiki Award Thanks for your recent contributions! 67.80.64.128 (talk) 01:38, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Republika Srpska

I see you fellas have been having trouble on Republika Srpska. I've requested semi-protection for the article , and, just for being so dilligent in your efforts - have a Barnstar :). -- Director (talk) 13:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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		Awarded for persistent efforts against IP vandalism -- Director (talk) 13:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

The IP user has been blocked. In the future I recommend you bring such obvious vandalism to the attentions of the admins immediately. Regards -- Director (talk) 14:11, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much :). Ok, i will do. Regards --Nado158 (talk) 18:34, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar to Nado158

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	For your continuos contributions to Serbian football related articles, I award you this barnstar, FkpCascais (talk) 03:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Competition icons

Hi, I suggest you read MOS:ICON, which says that icons should not be used simply for decoration, especially when the point is made perfectly well with text on its own. People know what the European Cup is without needing a crappy little icon of its trophy (which is copyrighted, by the way!). Therefore, please stop reverting me and leave the page as it was. – PeeJay 17:43, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

For what we have then the icons?--Nado158 (talk) 18:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

We don't have them, Wikimedia Commons has them. Some of the wikis in other languages use them, but we do not. – PeeJay 18:48, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok bro--Nado158 (talk) 18:54, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

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so why did you revert my changes? there are millions of references where these people are referred to as kosovars. Is this political? here are two recent ones=>

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21571182-new-normality-slowly-emerging-between-two-old-balkan-foes-inching-closer http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/us/politics/interview-with-hillary-clinton.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.231.192.149 (talk) 17:43, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

That's your POV, not what most of the sources say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.231.192.149 (talk) 10:34, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

List of association football rivalries

Your reverting of my removal of unsourced Serbian rivalries and the comments you made in the edit summaries was unhelpful. However, I see you have since added a couple of references, so presumably you're well aware of WP:V and WP:N as key foundations of Misplaced Pages, and have in some way acknowledged the point I was making. Can I ask that you cite the remaining Serbian references please, and they should really be independent sources. I have no agenda against Serbian teams, and deleted a number of other unsourced rivalries as well. Please tone down your edit summaries and if you have things to say use the article or user talk page instead. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 20:31, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I am not Arab. What made you think that? OK, happy for you to find appropriate sources for those Serbian rivalries in due course, but don't make it too open-ended. By the way, what is 'achi'? Eldumpo (talk) 21:01, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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Persecution of Serbs and other non-Albanians in Kosovo

Hello Nado. Concerning Persecution of Serbs and other non-Albanians in Kosovo, I also oppose its removal but I need to let you know that if it is to remain, changes will have to be made in the form of a lot of the information being removed. Over the years it has become like a shopping list with new cases added every time it is reported that a non-Albanian has been a victim of crime. In the real world there is a criminal fraternity everywhere among every ethnicity and horrible things happen, we cannot positively attribute each incident to systemic persecution. Take the case of the returnees which I removed, although there is no information on the motive or suspects, I admit that I smell a rat and believe this to be a hate crime but we mustn't fall into WP:OR. My suggestion is that we try as best to stick to HRW/U.N. sources if we can. The fact is that the only sources to confirm persecution come directly from the mouths of survivors and those close to victims. With the world not officially admitting this obvious occurrence, we are a bit stuffed which means we need to edit carefully. Are you all right with my suggestion? Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 17:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. As I said I am well aware of the persecution scenario. Regarding the debate, those who favour deletion all cite Misplaced Pages policy which is why we are forced to work with them to improve the article, otherwise it will simply be deleted. Very few editors have suggested how we scatter the sourced information should the page we wiped, most really don't care because the continued presence of the page and its entire content gives them a headache. The problem we are facing is this: the perspective of any non-Albanian clarifies that life in post-1999 Kosovo is bleak and safety uncertain. Now all incidents that took place between 1998 and the Kumanovo agreement the following year can be considered part of the conflict because in fairness, there was an active belligerent opponent at the time. Once FRY forces withdrew, there was no more threat to the secessionist individuals but the non-symathetic population has faced discrimination in all forms. The problem is that we have no sources to confirm that the world has acknowledged this. There have been no reports of persecution published in the U.N. and the world's media have never formally identified this chapter in international affairs. That means that when we edit our list, our claim that they are connected falls into the WP:SYNTH hole because we work from the outside inward rather than the other way around. I can argue that there is widespread persecution but I cannot fight Misplaced Pages policy, does that make sense to you Nado? Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 19:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

my apologies, Nado158. I restored one edit too few. Our friend appears to have gone as quickly as he appeared... Peacemaker67 (send... over) 12:22, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Zemun article

Can you please explain to me why do you keep deleting a certain section in Zemun article with the same argumentation that was used by a banned user and confirmed sockpuppet? You are aware that the same section was present in that article not just for months but years, all until recently? Shokatz (talk) 11:41, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I already explained--Nado158 (talk) 11:45, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

No you didn't. Deleting an entire section and only writing "no references" (when in fact they are provided) is not sufficient. By your logic I can easily revert and delete every change you did recently to the article by the same argument...even more as you have failed to provide any reference at all. Anyway I find it only appropriate to let you know I will ask an admin to look into this as your edits seem quite suspicious as they are identical with the recently banned sockpuppet as is your argumentation for doing so. Regards. Shokatz (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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arbitration enforcement request

Please see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Nado158. --Joy (talk) 09:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Another source

Hi Nado, if we can chat on this page for these posts as they are not connected to the other conversation we've had, do you think this source suffices for the information it gives? I don't think the incidents are included on the page. It is from an independent journal published in Montenegro but it seems to sport unsophisticated commentary, describing KFOR as "idle" rather than saying the incident occurred in front of them whilst they remained inactive. What's your thought? Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 20:52, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Result of the complaint about your edits at WP:Arbitration enforcement

Per this closure, you are topic banned from all articles and discussions related to Serbia, Kosovo, and Albania, broadly construed; including user talk, admin noticeboards and WP:Arbitration enforcement, for a period of one year from this date. You may file appeals against your sanctions to the closing admin, to AE, or to Arbcom in the usual way; this will not be construed as a topic ban violation. This action is under the provisions of WP:ARBMAC, which includes topic areas covered under WP:ARBKOS Thank you, KillerChihuahua 22:28, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Nado I am very sorry, I strongly urge you to observe the ban because I gather the option is still open to you but one edit of any kind, even vandal reverting, is seen to violate the topic ban and can get you an actual ban. Where you and I have recently worked together your contributions have been exceptional. I hope you don't leave the scene and I admit that it would be very difficult for me to edit if I could not touch those subjects. If you know of anything that has been missed out or overlooked in the occasional place, post me a comment with a source and I suppose I could handle it from there without harming my account or yours. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 20:55, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

He's doing well so far, Evlekis. But he cannot give you a comment with a source, because that would violate his topic ban. It includes user talk pages, too. If he does, he violates his topic ban. If you make the edits, then you are acting as his proxy to get around his topic ban, and you might end up with sanctions of your own. I advise you simply support him and don't try to talk to him about anything related in any way to the banned topics. KillerChihuahua 22:05, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

All right, I wasn't absolutely sure as you can tell. Not having read every directive I didn't realise that violating the ban stretches to communication with other users. It seems Nado may not even broach the subject. As I said, I do hope Nado may contribute in other areas and not fade away as I've seen users do when receiving a topic ban. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:20, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Not a problem; I could see you didn't quite understand the details, that's why I explained them to you. I have made Nado a proposal on my talk page; he has not responded yet but I have hope for a positive outcome. KillerChihuahua 23:24, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

By all my respect, I was not aware of the consequences of my error. Others get a warning or a ban on certain errors, and I get a ban on everything. That's not really fair. In any civil legal system you will be punished for what you have really done and here? There was never porbleme on Misplaced Pages relating to sports, or business, agriculture, Serbian food or brands, nature etc. I've created stadium sites, player dates updated (goals, transfers, etc.), updated data, where is this controversy? I understand what you mean, but I do not edit the Albanian League or sports. Why do all my work will not be considered positive? Why all this is overlooked? I can not at all in conflict with Albania, because it has nothing to do with Serbian Sports. There is no Serbian-Albanian Football League, etc. Why is it bad if I edit about a Serbian dog, or football data (statistics), or write about a food stamp, or national parks in Serbia? about nature. This is absolutely not about those things for which I was punished. What's bad about it when I add Nemanja Vidić as a remarkable person in Užice because he was born there? Look please here i create for example this small article about Metalac Stadium, improved and create 80% of the Partizan Belgrade article till the section Club records, improved a little every article about almost evry club and their stadiums in the first and second league (you can ask the users there). I create a article about the Mlekara Subotica dairy. Here, nothing is bad KillerChihuahua. Please, Serbian sport, agriculture, Serbian food or brands, nature etc. have nothing to do with controversial topics with Albania etc. Please allow me, if anything were to arise, I would not take to it and report it to you immediately if you wish, but it will not happen because I think Nature etc. is not controversial. Topics like Organization for Respect and Care for Animals (which is from Serbia), Serbian Spruce, or the dog Šarplaninac and stadiums are not controversial. Please i have good faith intentions. Besied this, what you mean with not stubs? Thank you!--Nado158 (talk) 12:35, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Quit moaning, you've got a topic ban and it serves you right. Maybe you'll think about that before you try to spread your nationalist POV on Kosovo-articles. You had your chance and you blew it! Hahaha! Keithstanton (talk) 10:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)