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{{od}} Russavia, I would imagine that if you continue calling people "trolls' in this uninformed way, your block will be extended and your talk page access removed. ] (]) 21:39, 15 April 2013 (UTC) | {{od}} Russavia, I would imagine that if you continue calling people "trolls' in this uninformed way, your block will be extended and your talk page access removed. ] (]) 21:39, 15 April 2013 (UTC) | ||
:My dear Russavia, obviously ''you'' can remove anything you like from your own talk page (as you will blow this one away within nanoseconds), but Giano isn't you, and if I see him do that again to someone else...anywhere...then I will revert it again. Simple as that. ] (]) 21:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC) |
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Good advice
Hi Russavia! Cool down, please. Go for a walk, do some gardening, drink a cup of tea or whatever to put your mind on something else. Do not edit (respect your block) and do not think about Misplaced Pages and wikipedians. Leave it as it is. Forgive and forget. Life is not always fair, so accept it. Look around at birds and the bees and soon you will discover that life is so much more than Misplaced Pages. Have a break from editing here. You are still wanted at Commons and your deeds there are appreciated. Do what you are good at: uploading valuable images, illustrating articles, improving existing illustrations in the articles and helping new editors to make contributions at Commons. Passing time is the best medicine and cure all wounds. --Seleucidis (talk) 11:55, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- Yep, I second this advice. I've been blocked too twice when I clearly was right in the matter, but broke formal rules. Well, what can I do. Hope you'll return once two weeks are gone. Take a break in the meantime, they might have just as well blocked you for another year (or two years), but it was 2 weeks this time. See ya! Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 13:01, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks guys, believe it or not I am actually cool...very cool. I am however very disgusted in the way that Sandstein acted, and is still acting, in relation to this mess and the community is allowing him to get away with it. I will keep editing of course, and I will not be letting the trolls (even the admin ones) get to me. If I do, then I lose, we all lose, and this project is too important for it (or at least it used to be...prove me wrong) Russavia (talk) 06:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- I rather think Sandstein has allowed himself to be swayed by anons and other disreputables, and clearly has forgotten that you were very much the innocent victim in the Eastern European Mailing List scandal - and it was a true scandal and a very badly handled scandal. I'm afraid the person most damaged by this latest salvo from that quarter is Sandstein - not you. Sooner or later (trust me on this), the community will tire of Sandstein strutting around the site and imposing these Draconian blocks. All through history (in real life and Misplaced Pages) people like him always come to very unpleasant ends, but until that happy day - the likes of you, will just have to sit your blocks out and wait for the sheep to baaah in a different direction - and I promise you that before long that is exactly what they will do. Giano 09:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, that's the case Giano. Yes, I was the victim of the EEML. Do you think the EEML is still in operation? Would you like to ask the EEML editors the simple question if the EEML is still in operation? If so, who is a member? And if not, when did it disband? They want to put the EEML days behind them on this project, and if it is no longer in operation, then the community, myself included, would be happy to do so. Then if required, the behaviour of individual editors can be looked at without tarring all editors with a brush which is no longer valid. In relation to Sandstein's problems, unfortunately, ultimately this is now of his own doing. Russavia (talk) 10:19, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Of course it's still in operation - no point asking, only a fool (or the Arbcom) would believe them even if they answered. They should never have been allowed back, under any name, form or IP. They were a disgrace. You really ought to post a link to the Arcom case about it prominently here because many of the admins and editors currently opining were not here when that all happened. You forget that Misplaced Pages has the memory span of gnat. Giano 10:24, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, that's the case Giano. Yes, I was the victim of the EEML. Do you think the EEML is still in operation? Would you like to ask the EEML editors the simple question if the EEML is still in operation? If so, who is a member? And if not, when did it disband? They want to put the EEML days behind them on this project, and if it is no longer in operation, then the community, myself included, would be happy to do so. Then if required, the behaviour of individual editors can be looked at without tarring all editors with a brush which is no longer valid. In relation to Sandstein's problems, unfortunately, ultimately this is now of his own doing. Russavia (talk) 10:19, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
More images
- Chrysaora pacifica
- Hernen (replace current castle photo)
- L.A. Zombie
Seleucidis, thanks for your help in getting these images into articles. With the 1982 Commonwealth Games image, could you change the date to 30 September 1982 (the date on the file appears to have been the upload to Flickr date by the Brisbane City Council). We also have 1982 Commonwealth Games opening ceremony into which the photo of Matilda could be put into; replacing the non-free image. The photo of James Ramsay is also incorrect with the date; I will try to find out which date the Queen Street Mall was officially opened -- Queen_Street_Mall#History states it was in 1982, so it was whilst Ramsay was the Queensland Governor, but the exact date I am not yet sure about. Thanks again for your help and your messages. Cheers, Russavia (talk) 07:50, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done:-) --Seleucidis (talk) 18:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for that mate. Russavia (talk) 08:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Russavia, what do you want me to do with the picture of Chrysaora pacifica (=Japanese Sea Nettle)? I can not replace the picture in the speciesbox in the article about Chrysaora melanaster, because (as written in the article) the name "Japanese Sea Nettle" was used for this species, but "Japanese Sea Nettle" now exclusively means Chrysaora pacifica, so requires a separate article (not written yet). Well, I have placed the picture under the speciesbox, because Chrysaora pacifica is mentioned there. And two more questions:-) Should I place {{commonscat|...}} always in External links section? Which way is better: {{commonscat|...}} or {{Commons categry-inline}}. Greetings & . --Seleucidis (talk) 10:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hey mate, we can leave the Japanese sea nettle for now; I'll let a relevant wikiproject know of the redlink article link, and hopefully they can do something about that. In relation to the commonscat template, this goes in the external links section; if there is no EL section, even in the references or the bottom section of the article page is fine. There's no need to use the inline template; it's up to editorial discretion, but myself I tend not to use it. Cheers, Russavia (talk) 16:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Russavia, please check my last edits, because I do not know the habits here, so I am not sure if I have inserted the pictures in the right way. If something is not good, please tell me and I will adjust it tomorrow. This is a marvellous picture of Jelly Bean Row, you have found, but the name Jelly Bean Row is not mentioned in the article. I found what it means and placed the picture in the section of architecture. Is it all right? or you had another idea? There is also a separate article about architecture of St. John's. I am not sure if it is a good idea to remove the current picture of the castle in Hernen, because it look quite good enlarged, is taken recently and shows another side of the castle. Perhaps create a Commons category Hernen and choose only one picture to illustrate the article - this is the policy on "my Misplaced Pages". We don't use a gallery any more. What do you suggest to do? Last but not least:-) thanks for the answers. --Seleucidis (talk) 22:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- All looks good. It's weird the St John's article doesn't mention "Jelly bean row" -- given that it does appear to be a local nickname for the houses in that section of the city. Cheers, Russavia (talk) 08:54, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- Russavia, please check my last edits, because I do not know the habits here, so I am not sure if I have inserted the pictures in the right way. If something is not good, please tell me and I will adjust it tomorrow. This is a marvellous picture of Jelly Bean Row, you have found, but the name Jelly Bean Row is not mentioned in the article. I found what it means and placed the picture in the section of architecture. Is it all right? or you had another idea? There is also a separate article about architecture of St. John's. I am not sure if it is a good idea to remove the current picture of the castle in Hernen, because it look quite good enlarged, is taken recently and shows another side of the castle. Perhaps create a Commons category Hernen and choose only one picture to illustrate the article - this is the policy on "my Misplaced Pages". We don't use a gallery any more. What do you suggest to do? Last but not least:-) thanks for the answers. --Seleucidis (talk) 22:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hey mate, we can leave the Japanese sea nettle for now; I'll let a relevant wikiproject know of the redlink article link, and hopefully they can do something about that. In relation to the commonscat template, this goes in the external links section; if there is no EL section, even in the references or the bottom section of the article page is fine. There's no need to use the inline template; it's up to editorial discretion, but myself I tend not to use it. Cheers, Russavia (talk) 16:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Russavia, what do you want me to do with the picture of Chrysaora pacifica (=Japanese Sea Nettle)? I can not replace the picture in the speciesbox in the article about Chrysaora melanaster, because (as written in the article) the name "Japanese Sea Nettle" was used for this species, but "Japanese Sea Nettle" now exclusively means Chrysaora pacifica, so requires a separate article (not written yet). Well, I have placed the picture under the speciesbox, because Chrysaora pacifica is mentioned there. And two more questions:-) Should I place {{commonscat|...}} always in External links section? Which way is better: {{commonscat|...}} or {{Commons categry-inline}}. Greetings & . --Seleucidis (talk) 10:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for that mate. Russavia (talk) 08:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- S-61 photo. Easier said than done:-) Which one is this? Would you like to be more specific? You know, I'm not an expert on helicopters. The rest is done, also castle in Hernen. Greetings. --Seleucidis (talk) 07:47, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Turns out both helicopter photos in the article are of the S-61, but I was thinking perhaps replace File:Irish-Coast-Guard-Helicopter-2012.JPG. Cheers, Russavia (talk) 09:57, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- 1) Where do you want me to place the picture of Brown Skua snatches Gentoo Penguin Chick? In the gallery of the article Gentoo Penguin (there is still one free place) or like I did in the section Threats? 2) Is this your intention to place the picture also in the article about Brown Skua? It is a rather short article, so I think it is not such a good idea. There is a link to Commons category containing this particular picture. 3) Is anything wrong with Hernen castle? I ask, because you haven't removed the picture. 4) If I am not mistaken, tomorrow is the big day:-) Greetings. --Seleucidis (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hey mate. 1) Is fine where it is. 2) Didn't notice that the brown skua article was so short, so it's no prob, we can leave it out. 3) I've left Hernen castle as I might write an article -- it's for my remind. 4) Don't know, I'm honestly not keeping track. Thanks for your help Russavia (talk) 11:42, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the L.A. Zombie... I am not so prude, but some people can make problems. I don't know what is the policy here, on English Misplaced Pages, but I know that this photo would cause a lot of fuss on "my Misplaced Pages". I know, it is just a film, so make-up artist used a lot of ketchup, but we should respect the opinion of other readers, who do not like to see it. After all people who do not want to see the photo, have the same rights as people who really want to see the photo. The best solution would be a "hidden picture" and a warning for the reader – one must first press a button, if one wants to see it, but I do not know how it works. What is the policy here in case of controversial pictures? If the policy is not clear, then I would like to advise you to wait with inserting this photo in the article, just to avoid quarrels, fuss and unpleasant situations, especially because your block will be just finished tomorrow, so you should start quietly and gently, avoiding making other people angry right from the very beginning. After all there is a photo of the film poster in the article, so the article has the best possible illustration. You can always ask other wikipedians about their opinion concerning inserting this picture in the article. Maybe ask members of WikiProject Film? It is a good and peaceful solution. I have noticed that often wikipedians ask for second opinion in case of controversial subjects or pictures. Remember that sometimes you must put water in wine: lessening demands and ambition, mellowing, adopting a more moderate stand on an issue in order to reach a compromise. I must do it too:-) Greetings. --Seleucidis (talk) 16:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hey mate. 1) Is fine where it is. 2) Didn't notice that the brown skua article was so short, so it's no prob, we can leave it out. 3) I've left Hernen castle as I might write an article -- it's for my remind. 4) Don't know, I'm honestly not keeping track. Thanks for your help Russavia (talk) 11:42, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- 1) Where do you want me to place the picture of Brown Skua snatches Gentoo Penguin Chick? In the gallery of the article Gentoo Penguin (there is still one free place) or like I did in the section Threats? 2) Is this your intention to place the picture also in the article about Brown Skua? It is a rather short article, so I think it is not such a good idea. There is a link to Commons category containing this particular picture. 3) Is anything wrong with Hernen castle? I ask, because you haven't removed the picture. 4) If I am not mistaken, tomorrow is the big day:-) Greetings. --Seleucidis (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Turns out both helicopter photos in the article are of the S-61, but I was thinking perhaps replace File:Irish-Coast-Guard-Helicopter-2012.JPG. Cheers, Russavia (talk) 09:57, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
You are back again - fly high
Hi!
I was thinking, maybe you can write a new article to make a classy come back? After all 48 DYK entries under your belt sound much better than 47:-) What do you think about writing an article about all aspects of food for passengers and crew on board of air plains? or about something else connected with aviation? To bring you in the mood for writing about aviation - just listen to Airport song. Good luck and take care. I can fly away now:-) --Seleucidis (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for all of your help here Seleucidis; the spirit of collaboration is still alive. Russavia (talk) 18:55, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Human–goat sexual intercourse
Please re-add the AfD notice that you removed without explanation. The discussion is still on-going. DMacks (talk) 19:24, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! DMacks (talk) 19:31, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, it appears I edited an old version in error. Russavia (talk) 19:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Zarechnaya (Заречная) (6645993419).jpg
Посмотри, пожалуйста, ru:Википедия:К переименованию/13 апреля 2013#Файл:Zarechnaya (Заречная) (6645993419).jpg → Файл:Leninskaya (Ленинская) (6645993419).jpg --Obersachse (talk) 18:02, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Your topic ban
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
You may want to reply to User talk:Sandstein#Topic ban violation. Sandstein 18:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ummmm, how about NO. I'm not feeding the trolls. The best way to deal with them is to ignore them; much like I am going to do with your request. Russavia (talk) 19:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- This is also a topic ban violation -- if you listen to trolls. Because Jackie Kashian has an Armenian name and that may be regarded by some as being covered by Eastern Europe topic bans. God help me if I should edit Kim Kardashian. Only the most combative trolls and/or admins would argue that any of these are topic ban violations, and only the most foolish admin would block for it -- especially an involved admin. Perhaps a CU could be done on the Vodafone Australia IP to see if it ties up with a named editor, and block them instead. Other than that Sandstein, feel free to file an AE report if you so desire; you have the same right to do this as any other involved editor. Apart from that, I've got other things to do, and I request that in future that you don't spoil my talk page and waste my time with absolutely frivolous rubbish like this. Russavia (talk) 19:33, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Sandstein's involved block
To enforce an arbitration decision, and for violating your Eastern Europe topic ban on the page Anna Azari, you have been blocked from editing for 1 month. You are welcome to make useful contributions once the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing arbitration enforcement blocks and then appeal your block using the instructions there. Sandstein 19:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reminder to administrators: In March 2010, ArbCom adopted a procedure prohibiting administrators "from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page." Administrators who reverse an arbitration enforcement block, such as this one, without clear authorisation will be summarily desysopped.
- (Edit conflict with the below) I have made this enforcement block after you declined to address, above, your violation of your topic ban, and did not undo it. Because I am not aware of interacting with you other than in my administrative capacity, and notably not in any conflictual manner that I recall, I do not consider myself involved as described in WP:INVOLVED. Sandstein 19:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
LOL, and so Sandstein's abuse continues. Can you please tell me exactly how an article on an ISRAELI diplomat violates an Eastern European topic ban? Explain yourself Sandstein. Russavia (talk) 19:54, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sandstein, go and read Estlandia's comments on your talk page. I look forward to your next inventive block. What a twit lol Russavia (talk) 19:57, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) You are subject to an indefinite topic ban from all content "related to the Eastern Europe, broadly construed". The article is about "a former Ambassador of Israel to Russia", who "was born in the Lithuanian SSR", and also "the Ambassador of Israel to Ukraine and Moldova". The article is therefore about a person from, and related to, Eastern Europe. Your editing the article consequently violates your topic ban. Sandstein 20:00, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Inventive reasoning for sure. So what's next, I get blocked for 6 months for editing Royal Australian Air Force because Royal_Australian_Air_Force#Service_since_1945 mentions the Soviet Union? LOL Russavia (talk) 20:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- It appears that Sandstein unchecked is driving at full force towards a precipice; this can only end one way - the question is when? It seems very strange that the Arbcom seem in no hurry to check this unfortunate situation. The majority of Misplaced Pages's editors can only speculate as to why that is, and those that do know will yet again be saying "I told you so." One despairs, one really does. Giano 20:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- I look forward to Sandstein finally driving over that precipice, never to be seen again. Malleus Fatuorum 20:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, but the problem is going to be for those that go with him. Giano 20:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Human sacrifice and arena sports have never been one of my favourite passtimes, one should have some humanity. Giano 21:21, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Nobody "dies" here at Misplaced Pages. The sooner that Sandstein and his "rules are rules" ilk are gone the better. Malleus Fatuorum 21:35, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Human sacrifice and arena sports have never been one of my favourite passtimes, one should have some humanity. Giano 21:21, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- It appears that Sandstein unchecked is driving at full force towards a precipice; this can only end one way - the question is when? It seems very strange that the Arbcom seem in no hurry to check this unfortunate situation. The majority of Misplaced Pages's editors can only speculate as to why that is, and those that do know will yet again be saying "I told you so." One despairs, one really does. Giano 20:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Inventive reasoning for sure. So what's next, I get blocked for 6 months for editing Royal Australian Air Force because Royal_Australian_Air_Force#Service_since_1945 mentions the Soviet Union? LOL Russavia (talk) 20:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Russavia, I would imagine that if you continue calling people "trolls' in this uninformed way, your block will be extended and your talk page access removed. Mathsci (talk) 21:39, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- My dear Russavia, obviously you can remove anything you like from your own talk page (as you will blow this one away within nanoseconds), but Giano isn't you, and if I see him do that again to someone else...anywhere...then I will revert it again. Simple as that. Tarc (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)