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] and Norwegian ] (by far the most common form of standard ]) are very similar ]s, but nevertheless differences between them exist. | |||
==History== | |||
In ] (1536-1814), the ] was Danish. The literate class spoke ], i.e. a form of Danish with East Norwegian pronunciation and other minor local peculiarities. After the split between the two countries, ] remained official in a nearly unchanged form during the entire 19th century until the spelling and grammar reforms of the early 20th century brought its written norm closer to the educated spoken vernacular and to Norwegian rural and urban dialects. Since 1929 the language is known as ]. Later attempts to bring it closer and eventually merge it with the artificially constructed ] language, based on Norwegian dialects, have failed due to widespread resistance. The most recent grammar and spelling reforms have even permitted reintroduced some more conservative Danish-like forms that had been banned before. | |||
==Writing system== | |||
Generally, Norwegian orthography is much simplified and made more regular and closer to the actual pronunciation of the words. | |||
*In writing, Danish may employ either the letter ''e'' or the letter ''æ'' to signify the short vowel phoneme /ɛ/. Norwegian only uses ''e''. Example: Danish ''lægge'' (to lay), ''sende'' (to send) vs Norwegian ''legge'', ''sende''. | |||
*Danish regularly, although not always, uses the letter combinations ''nd'', ''ld'' instead of the double consonant letters ''nn'', ''ll''. In most cases this isn't etymologically justified. In Norwegian, only the etymologically justified spellings occur. Example: Danish ''kende'' (to know, ] ''kenna''), ''denne'' (this , ON ] ] ''denna'') and ''sende'' (to send, ON ''senda'') vs Norwegian ''kjenne'', ''denne'' (but ''sende''); Danish ''ilde'' (bad, ON ''illa''), ''ville'' (to want, Old Norse ''vilja'') and ''holde'' (to hold, Old Norse ''halda'') vs Norwegian ''ille'', ''ville'' (but ''holde''). | |||
*Unlike Norwegian, Danish often uses ''ds'' instead of double ''s''. Example: ''ridse'' (to scratch) and ''visse'' (certain ) vs Norwegian ''risse'', ''visse''. | |||
*Unlike Norwegian, Danish doesn't use double consonants word-finally. Example: Danish ''vis'' can signify both the adjective pronounced /{{IPA|vi:s}}/ (wise) and the adjective pronounced /{{IPA|ves}}/ (certain), even though the plural forms of the adjectives, where the consonant occurs medially, are distinguished in writing by means of a double ''s'' in the second word (''vise'' vs ''visse''). In contrast, Norwegian does distinguish between ''vis'' and ''viss'' in the same way as between ''vise'' and ''visse''. | |||
*Norwegian has preserved the spellings ''gj'', ''kj'', and ''skj'' in the beginning of words when followed by ''e'', ''æ'', ''ø'', while modern Danish has simply ''g'', ''k'' and ''sk''. These words are also pronounced differently in the two languages, see below. Examples: Danish ''gætte'' (guess), ''kær'' (dear), ''skønt'' (although) vs Norwegian ''gjette'', ''kjær'', ''skjønt''. | |||
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må/kan The word "må" usually means must in Norwegian, but it has the meaning may, can or must in Danish. | ''må/kan'' - The word "må" usually means must in Norwegian, but it has the meaning may, can or must in Danish. | ||
''der/som'' - Danish has both words for "which", although ''der'' is only used for ]. | |||
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''lave/gjøre'' - in Danish both ''lave'' or ''gøre'' (roughly, "make" or "do") occur, in Norwegian only ''gjøre'' is used in equivalent expressions. | ||
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''nogle/nogen'' - in Danish the English words "some" (in a plural sense) and "any" can be translated with "nogle" and "nogen", respectively, while in Norwegian both are rendered as "noen" (from Danish "nogen"). | ||
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Danish and Norwegian Bokmål (by far the most common form of standard Norwegian) are very similar languages, but nevertheless differences between them exist.
History
In the Kingdom of Denmark-Norway (1536-1814), the official language was Danish. The literate class spoke Dano-Norwegian, i.e. a form of Danish with East Norwegian pronunciation and other minor local peculiarities. After the split between the two countries, Dano-Norwegian remained official in a nearly unchanged form during the entire 19th century until the spelling and grammar reforms of the early 20th century brought its written norm closer to the educated spoken vernacular and to Norwegian rural and urban dialects. Since 1929 the language is known as Bokmål. Later attempts to bring it closer and eventually merge it with the artificially constructed Nynorsk language, based on Norwegian dialects, have failed due to widespread resistance. The most recent grammar and spelling reforms have even permitted reintroduced some more conservative Danish-like forms that had been banned before.
Writing system
Generally, Norwegian orthography is much simplified and made more regular and closer to the actual pronunciation of the words.
- In writing, Danish may employ either the letter e or the letter æ to signify the short vowel phoneme /ɛ/. Norwegian only uses e. Example: Danish lægge (to lay), sende (to send) vs Norwegian legge, sende.
- Danish regularly, although not always, uses the letter combinations nd, ld instead of the double consonant letters nn, ll. In most cases this isn't etymologically justified. In Norwegian, only the etymologically justified spellings occur. Example: Danish kende (to know, Old Norse kenna), denne (this , ON masculine accusative denna) and sende (to send, ON senda) vs Norwegian kjenne, denne (but sende); Danish ilde (bad, ON illa), ville (to want, Old Norse vilja) and holde (to hold, Old Norse halda) vs Norwegian ille, ville (but holde).
- Unlike Norwegian, Danish often uses ds instead of double s. Example: ridse (to scratch) and visse (certain ) vs Norwegian risse, visse.
- Unlike Norwegian, Danish doesn't use double consonants word-finally. Example: Danish vis can signify both the adjective pronounced /vi:s/ (wise) and the adjective pronounced /ves/ (certain), even though the plural forms of the adjectives, where the consonant occurs medially, are distinguished in writing by means of a double s in the second word (vise vs visse). In contrast, Norwegian does distinguish between vis and viss in the same way as between vise and visse.
- Norwegian has preserved the spellings gj, kj, and skj in the beginning of words when followed by e, æ, ø, while modern Danish has simply g, k and sk. These words are also pronounced differently in the two languages, see below. Examples: Danish gætte (guess), kær (dear), skønt (although) vs Norwegian gjette, kjær, skjønt.
German influence
First of all, Danish has adopted many German words and some grammatical influences not so frequently used in Bokmål anymore. An example is names of countries.
Danish and Swedish generally use the German names of countries, or at least the German ending, while Norwegian uses the Latin endings; this means that the usual ending is -a in Norwegian and -en or -et in Danish. The -en and -et endings are the definite articles.
English: Spain Danish: Spanien Norwegian: Spania
Differences in pronunciation
The difference in pronunciation between Norwegian and Danish is much more striking than the difference between Norwegian and Swedish. Danish speakers generally do not understand Norwegian very well. Some Norwegians also have problems understanding Danish, but according to a recent scientific investigation Norwegians are better at understanding both Danish and Swedish than the Danes and Swedes are at understanding Norwegian. Written Norwegian has historical similarities with Danish, but the pronunciation is more like Swedish.
The Danish pronunciation is "softer" and the letters d, r and g in particular are pronounced quite differently in some positions in the word.
However, it should be noted that Danes and Norwegians with only a little training will fluently understand the other language. It is mostly a question of getting familiar with it.
It should also be humourosly noted that Danes have been reported to have an easier time understanding drunk Norwegians than sober ones, the former often using a more slurred matter of speech.
Grammatical differences
Prepositions
The main difference in use of prepositions in the Danish and Norwegian language is the use of i/på, (in English in/on. In many cases the rules are the same, but there are still many exceptions. For example if you were to say I'm going out (as in out to a bar or a disco) you would say in Norwegian Jeg går på byen (literally I go on the city) but in Danish you would say Jeg går i byen (literally I go in the city – in Dano-Norwegian, this sentence would mean I walk in the city, which it can mean in Danish, too).
Another difference is the use of the definite endings. In Danish, the definite ending is used similarly to the definite article in English, so that I love that man becomes Jeg elsker den mand. In Norwegian, the definite article is still used even if a specific example is already indicated with den (that): I love that man becomes Jeg elsker den mannen in Norwegian, literally I love that the man.
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