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:I'm letting the block stand for now - I'm writing a response to this, so it will take a bit of time for that. I have this page on my watchlist. I can't guarantee that I can respond immediately, but I will visit it periodically. --] 05:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC) :I'm letting the block stand for now - I'm writing a response to this, so it will take a bit of time for that. I have this page on my watchlist. I can't guarantee that I can respond immediately, but I will visit it periodically. --] 05:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

== A response ==

:This is in response to this . I'm assuming the IP address is yours. Yes, I can see that Bunchofgrapes was the nominator for that article, and was also involved with your recent indefinite block. Perhaps from your perspective, that particular pair of actions appears to be "unfair" or "unethical". I don't know how to change this perspective to alleviate the problem, other than to lift the original block, and replace it with an identical one of my own. At the moment, this seems to be the most reasonable thing to do. Now, there is some discussion about it ] and ] (near the bottom), so ultimately, the block will be subordinate to the opinion expressed there.

:At minimum, I'm sure you recognize that some of your actions on Misplaced Pages of late have been less than productive - there is CheckUser evidence to substantiate this, for example, see and . I would characterize this sort of behaviour as somewhat chronic (considering the AfD was months ago), and unfortunately, your recent use of Misplaced Pages's resources inclines on the side which does not support the case for you to be unblocked readily.

:At the moment, what I can do for you is the following: I will keep this page on my watchlist for a little bit, so if you wish to respond to this, you are more than welcome to. I can't guarantee that I will respond immediately since I have other priorities to attend to, but I will visit this page periodically, at least for the next little bit. Based on my experience here, if you want to contribute more to this project, one option is to start over from another account, and preferably one that would distance itself from the terminology you wanted to introduce to Misplaced Pages. Up to this point, it simply has not been substantiated to an encyclopedic level which satisfies the community at large. Perhaps you have a differing opinion on the matter, and perhaps the system may be blind towards your wisdom. However, the negative associations with that word have been exacerbated now, and I imagine it to be rather difficult to overturn that sentiment at large.

:If you do choose to make another account, it would be quite possible for other administrators to detect this, and based on current policy, I imagine there would be an inclination to block any additional accounts you might make. Should and when that happen, we'll talk more about it then. In the meantime, it would probably be a healthy thing to refrain from editing a little bit. Some of your actions today have upset a number of things, and it is in your interest to wait a little bit longer so that more people would be willing to listen and attend to your concerns. We'll see how things unfold. I hope this helps. --] 05:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

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Buenas suerte

Take care, Eddie. I hope you decide to come back. —Viriditas | Talk 13:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not abandoning WP altogether, I'll still come back from time to time. :) Eddie, Monday April 17 2006 at 02:09
That's good to hear. Take care and be safe. —Viriditas | Talk 03:24, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I don't think an unblocking is appropriate at this time. At minimum, this block will stand for at least 24 hours while we sort things out. --HappyCamper 04:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Fine, let it be that way, but I want you to know that it was User:Bunchofgrapes that started all this by nominated exicornt to be deleted. Now he blocks me because in his opinion, mentioning the word in wikipedia is a crime. Eddie 04:48, 25 May, 2006 (UTC)

The User That Blocked Me

The Bunchofgrapes|user that blocked me has caused me a lot of suffering on this site. We had a fight over a word that he nominated for deletion months ago. He hates the word so much that he suggested that any mention or inclusion of this word be consider vandalism.

I posted an {{unblock}}

In any case I will wait 24 hours and see if my request gets fulfilled.

Any user with sysop right can email me and we can talk outside of WP

I'm letting the block stand for now - I'm writing a response to this, so it will take a bit of time for that. I have this page on my watchlist. I can't guarantee that I can respond immediately, but I will visit it periodically. --HappyCamper 05:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

A response

This is in response to this followup post. I'm assuming the IP address is yours. Yes, I can see that Bunchofgrapes was the nominator for that article, and was also involved with your recent indefinite block. Perhaps from your perspective, that particular pair of actions appears to be "unfair" or "unethical". I don't know how to change this perspective to alleviate the problem, other than to lift the original block, and replace it with an identical one of my own. At the moment, this seems to be the most reasonable thing to do. Now, there is some discussion about it here and here (near the bottom), so ultimately, the block will be subordinate to the opinion expressed there.
At minimum, I'm sure you recognize that some of your actions on Misplaced Pages of late have been less than productive - there is CheckUser evidence to substantiate this, for example, see 1 and 2. I would characterize this sort of behaviour as somewhat chronic (considering the AfD was months ago), and unfortunately, your recent use of Misplaced Pages's resources inclines on the side which does not support the case for you to be unblocked readily.
At the moment, what I can do for you is the following: I will keep this page on my watchlist for a little bit, so if you wish to respond to this, you are more than welcome to. I can't guarantee that I will respond immediately since I have other priorities to attend to, but I will visit this page periodically, at least for the next little bit. Based on my experience here, if you want to contribute more to this project, one option is to start over from another account, and preferably one that would distance itself from the terminology you wanted to introduce to Misplaced Pages. Up to this point, it simply has not been substantiated to an encyclopedic level which satisfies the community at large. Perhaps you have a differing opinion on the matter, and perhaps the system may be blind towards your wisdom. However, the negative associations with that word have been exacerbated now, and I imagine it to be rather difficult to overturn that sentiment at large.
If you do choose to make another account, it would be quite possible for other administrators to detect this, and based on current policy, I imagine there would be an inclination to block any additional accounts you might make. Should and when that happen, we'll talk more about it then. In the meantime, it would probably be a healthy thing to refrain from editing a little bit. Some of your actions today have upset a number of things, and it is in your interest to wait a little bit longer so that more people would be willing to listen and attend to your concerns. We'll see how things unfold. I hope this helps. --HappyCamper 05:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)