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:::There is an inaccuracy in the footnote, which references the Texas Constitution of 1876, which was passed subsequent to the creation of Texas A&M (1871) and therefore did not "create" Texas A&M. An A&M College was indeed mentioned in the constitution as part of a presumed University of Texas, but the constitution is unclear on whether or not this would be the existing A&M or a separate, additional A&M. The logic of why it could be the latter is that the Morrill Act specifically applied to only mechanical and agricultural schools and only by incorporating an A&M branch could UT receive Morrill Act funding. Since there is no documentary evidence of the already existant A&M (they were building buildings as the Constitution was passed) was somehow transferred to UT), so this clause should be considered nothing more of a placeholder which was not effected. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:50, 17 April 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :::There is an inaccuracy in the footnote, which references the Texas Constitution of 1876, which was passed subsequent to the creation of Texas A&M (1871) and therefore did not "create" Texas A&M. An A&M College was indeed mentioned in the constitution as part of a presumed University of Texas, but the constitution is unclear on whether or not this would be the existing A&M or a separate, additional A&M. The logic of why it could be the latter is that the Morrill Act specifically applied to only mechanical and agricultural schools and only by incorporating an A&M branch could UT receive Morrill Act funding. Since there is no documentary evidence of the already existant A&M (they were building buildings as the Constitution was passed) was somehow transferred to UT), so this clause should be considered nothing more of a placeholder which was not effected. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:50, 17 April 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Largest university in Texas? ==

The (latest version) of the source for this claim (in the intro) shows A&M is #2 - behind UT-Austin. ]<sup>(])</sup> 19:57, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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To-do: E·H·W·RUpdated 2009-10-02

  • Update research section.
  • Create a section about Texas A&M the institution.
  • Expand information on the TAMU University System.
  • Trim some of the "fat" on this page

Former see also section

I acted WP:BOLD when removing the see also section. Mid-InfraRed Technologies for Health and the Environment. I personally don't believe that the Infrared tech thingy belongs on this page. A&M seems to be only a minor participant in it. However, I wouldn't mind seeing it in the research section.

Furthermore, while looking through the new archive page, this was a topic of discussion. Moreover, this wasn't the only unfinished conversation that was archived. I propose moving back 2-3 sections from the archive. Thanks and gig em. Oldag07 (talk) 06:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Is it okay to remove them from the archived page? The tag says otherwise. BlueAg09 (Talk) 07:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I was really tired last night. I probably could have been a less direct. I apologize. It makes sense that we moved as much as we could off for the featured article of the day. As for continuing these discussions, instead of removing them from the archive we can just copy and paste them. After that we can just note in the archive that these sections have been elaborated on. Something like:
---This section has been continued on XXXXX ---. what do you think? Oldag07 (talk) 12:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I think there was agreement on the other issues, just disagreement on the timing. Now that Main Page day is over, we can proceed with some of the changes. On a side note, it looks like a lot of Aggie-related pages were visited :) Karanacs (talk) 13:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Concur! A lot of things were updated yesterday, so that main page article really helped as well as the links to other articles. GREAT job everyone! — BQZip01 —  15:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I found a compromise solution. I put what I thought was the consensus of the archived materials as well as some ideas of my own on to the to do list on the page. Please modify the to do list as you see fit. Oldag07 (talk) 22:58, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

University band page up for deletion

Hi. I just wanted to leave a friendly notice that at the school Wind Symphony has been nominated for deletion as lacking evidence of notability under WP:BAND.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:54, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

"Direct presence"

What is meant by "direct presence in each of the 254 counties"? Does that mean there is sometime of campus in each county? Or does it mean there is some type of research, such as crop or cattle research, being done in each county that is overseen by Texas A&M. I couldn't find any extra information or verification in the article so I'm a little unsure why the phrase is used and in the lead. My apologies if I missed it. 71.210.185.191 (talk) 00:01, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

To answer your question a "direct prescence" is a reference to activities actively pursued in each county. For example, crop research in West Texas, engineering research in Houston, education programs in Austin, etc. All of these are University activities and work towards improving Texas as a whole. — BQZip01 —  06:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I think that the phrase is quite vague and not supported. I think the introduction will look better with out it. --Yousowiki (talk) 00:08, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Supreme court case about GLBTA as a club?

I've heard several times that TAMU went to the supreme court over preventing a gay club forming on campus. Is there any truth to this, and shouldn't it be included if it is true?--96.249.190.186 (talk) 04:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know about this, but a quick search showed that it did happen this way. I think this belongs in the history article rather than the main one. I'll search for some reliable sources and add that in. Karanacs (talk) 14:08, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
This has been added to History of Texas A&M University, and I've created a new article, Gay Student Services v. Texas A&M University, on the court case. Thanks for the lead! Karanacs (talk) 19:42, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Karanacs, amazing work as always. Oldag07 (talk) 22:10, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

List of Individual Colleges and/or Departments at A&M

Organized list of colleges and departments at Texas A&M is missing. Consider adding a list or link to a list of the colleges at Texas A&M separate from the Student Body section of the Academics section of the page. Also consider adding pages with information about each department inside each college. Jimmayjr (talk) 21:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Jimmy, I appreciate the input, but I think getting that much information is a bit excessive in this context. There are well over 200 departments at A&M. Including them all here would simply take up too much space. Each of the already linked articles on each college includes information on their majors/departments. If you think a "List of ..." article would be appropriate, I encourage its creation. — BQZip01 —  02:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't. There's a pretty strong body of precedent grounded in WP:NOT#DIR and AfD practice that similar articles have and should be deleted as unencyclopedic. Madcoverboy (talk) 16:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

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Updated Enrollment Statistics

Updated figures for Fall 2009 enrollment are available here if someone with a better understanding of editing wants to do the honors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.57.48.144 (talk) 09:05, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Rankings template

It would seem that the rankings template people have completely remade the template. i am deleting all unnecessary rankings, but I figured I would save the numbers here: {{Infobox US university ranking |USNWR_NU =61 |USNWR_Bus =29 |USNWR_Eng =13 |USNWR_Ed =40 |ARWU_W =91 |ARWU_N =55 |ARWU_SCI =43 |ARWU_ENG =34 |ARWU_SOC =45 |THES_W =137 |THES_N =48 |CMUP =32 |Wamo =1 }}

Reorganize archives

I was thinking about using some of the newer archiving systems. I like the {{Talk header}} system. objections? Oldag07 (talk) 03:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

This is the former box. Template:Archive box collapsible Old archive has been moved to more efficient archive standards. Oldag07 (talk) 21:30, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

"White males" part of the charter?

Was educating "white males" part of the original charter/mission? If actually part of the legislation/charter/mission, then it needs a citation. If not, that's an ugly phrasing, and also not notable in 1871. Moreover, the context immediately following (re desegregation and co-ed status) would explain the changes perfectly well in that case.

It's just a question of the language used: Vassar, for example, is not described as having been founded for "white females." (There's nothing remotely like this in the article for Virginia Tech, another southern A&M with a corps of cadets.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.19.11 (talk) 00:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Great image resource

Alexey Sergeev, a physics professor, has licensed photographs at his web page (http://www.asergeev.com/) under the GFDL. A directory of these images are available here. A number of these images are related to this institution. I encourage interested editors to upload these images at Commons with the license tag Commons:Template:Alex Sergeev permission. --GrapedApe (talk) 01:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the link. I've been looking for images of TAMUQ to put up on the main page! BlueAg09 (Talk) 01:54, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

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Texas A&M Campus Setting

Copied from my Talk page.

Good call... that is a more reliable source but however it does say rural fringe. I think we can settle with suburban. I live in college station and the campus borders two huge neighborhoods and a downtown area. The one side that is undeveloped has an airport.Tamu156 (talk) 20:28, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

No, we won't "settle with suburban." The source says rural. ElKevbo (talk) 21:28, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

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  • There are currently four photographs of the cadets in the article. That's almost one-fifth of all the photographs on the article. Clearly, the cadets are not one-fifth of the university body. I think one would be fine, but four is three too many. --Yousowiki (talk) 18:45, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

inaccurate claim on size of cadet corps

The official TAMU site and an article in the school paper last fall indicated the corps of cadets numbered 2100, The Citadel has 2154 so apparently is the largest. Also on the claim of commissioning the most military officers reference is given to a speech by President Bush who mentioned this fact, he is just repeating what he was told by someone else and is not in a position to know the exact numbers commissioned by TAMU and the other SMCs so this is not an acceptable reference.Bob80q (talk) 01:36, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Separate section on notable faculty

Hi, The wiki page lacks a section on notable professors at TAMU. We have one of the best faculties in the United States and having their list at the TAMU wiki page seems relevant. Several of the top universities (e.g., Princeton, Harvard, Stanford etc.) have a separate list of notable faculties.


I think there is a separate wiki page on the notable faculties from TAMU. http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_Texas_A%26M_University_people

So this post is not relevant now.



Regards, Aditya Kumar, Dept of CSE Texas A&M — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiraditya (talkcontribs) 19:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

although there is a separate list of notable faculty, i think it is appropriate to include a shorter version as subsection in the section of "Notable People" in the main article. Two reasons: (1) other schools' wiki entries do have this type of subsection; (2) well, prominent researchers/faculty are part of the notable people set by definition.

Yousowiki (talk) 07:11, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Campuses

Currently there is section in the article titled "Campus" which briefly describes the College Station campus. I believe this section should be renamed to Campuses (or Locations), and have as subsections each of the three campuses the university has: College Station, Galveston, and Qatar. As an example of this style, see Tufts University. (yaniel87, 07.29.2012) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yaniel87 (talkcontribs) 18:07, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. Main campus is significantly bigger than the other branch campuses. The branch campuses are mentioned in the paragraph before:
"Additionally, the university includes two branch campuses: Texas A&M at Qatar located in Education City in Doha, Qatar devoted to engineering disciplines and Texas A&M University at Galveston in Galveston, Texas, devoted to marine research and host to the Texas Maritime Academy."
This page is already large as is. Would duplicating the information make sense? I wouldn't mind moving the paragraph above down to the campus section. That could be a good compromise. Oldag07 (talk) 03:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Many of the articles on prominent universities with satellite campuses have subsections dedicated to each campus. I'll give plenty of examples just to show the trend: Cornell University, Northwestern University, Boston University, University of Miami, New York University, and Tufts University (already mentioned above). Other articles do not have subsections dedicated to each satellite campus of the school, but they do contain a general subsection that describes these campuses. For example, Stanford University, Columbia University, Carnegie Mellon University, Harvard University, and University of Chicago. --Yousowiki (talk) 15:59, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
I could do it sometime in the near future. I would not mind if someone would beat me to it though. --Yousowiki (talk) 14:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
I didn't create a separate subsection, but I did make a paragraph about the branch campuses. You can expand the paragraph and make the branch campuses subjection if you want. Oldag07 (talk) 13:29, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
  • A separate subsection makes sense, but it can't be the exact same information just under a subsection header. It needs to be expanded upon substantially to make a subsection necessary; like at least another paragraph. Accordingly, I've reverted until we need that section. PLEASE feel free to add to it and make a subsection once it reaches 2 paragraphs. Buffs (talk) 01:19, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
TAMU does not list Riverside as one of its satellite campuses and there is no information about it anywhere on the TAMU domain. Based on that it should be taken out of the article. Also, while reverting to the previous version you re-introduced erroneous information: The Galveston campus is not an engineering campus, i.e., not all degrees are awarded by the College of Engineering as is the case for Qatar. --Yousowiki (talk) 17:36, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

"2012 Off campus shooting"

I've removed this section from the article because it did not happen at A&M. WP is WP:NOT#NOTNEWS either. If anyone feels strongly that it should be included in this article, we should talk about it here first. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 21:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not seeing that anyone from A&M was involved; just local police serving an eviction notice. Besides proximity, is there any connection to the university that's of interest? This just seems like an unrelated police blotter item. Kuru (talk) 23:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I guess linking the shooting to a prominent university is a way to make a dull story interesting, but local news reports (e.g. http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Shooting-in-Progress-Near-Welborn-and-Fidelity-Streets-in-College-Station-166000226.html ) do not indicate such a link. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 02:35, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
At the very least, we should link to the article, 2012 College Station, Texas shooting --— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mblumber (talkcontribs) 08:41, 14 August 2012‎
That article may not survive either. Once again, the relationship between the two is coincidental and tangential. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 13:54, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
i don't think there is a need to include in TAMU's entry information about a shooting that happened in college station and outside of the university. it is simply not related to the university. --Yousowiki (talk) 03:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

First or second university in Texas?

While the Texas Constitution states "as a branch campus of ..." this "branch campus" opened in 1876, before the University of Texas' 1883. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 01:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Also relevant is this edit . --Rifleman 82 (talk) 01:16, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether this was the first or second university it Texas but it's entirely inappropriate for Misplaced Pages editors to attempt to analyze a primary source to draw a conclusion that may not be as straight forward as a novice historian may assume. Surely there are many sources discussing colleges and universities in Texas that can provide evidence of the scholarly consensus on this issue~ ElKevbo (talk) 01:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

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It was stated in the constitution to be a branch, but that never materialized. Texas A&M is the "first public institution of higher learning" in the state of Texas, but technically it was not the first public "university" in Texas because it was a "college". Moreover, the oldest university in Texas is Baylor, not any of the public universities. Oldag07 (talk) 12:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
There is an inaccuracy in the footnote, which references the Texas Constitution of 1876, which was passed subsequent to the creation of Texas A&M (1871) and therefore did not "create" Texas A&M. An A&M College was indeed mentioned in the constitution as part of a presumed University of Texas, but the constitution is unclear on whether or not this would be the existing A&M or a separate, additional A&M. The logic of why it could be the latter is that the Morrill Act specifically applied to only mechanical and agricultural schools and only by incorporating an A&M branch could UT receive Morrill Act funding. Since there is no documentary evidence of the already existant A&M (they were building buildings as the Constitution was passed) was somehow transferred to UT), so this clause should be considered nothing more of a placeholder which was not effected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.71.25.99 (talk) 15:50, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Largest university in Texas?

The (latest version) of the source for this claim (in the intro) shows A&M is #2 - behind UT-Austin. uriah923 19:57, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

  1. "Texas A&M University at Qatar". Texas A&M University. Retrieved April 30, 2007.
  2. "Texas A&M University at Galveston". The Handbook of Texas. Retrieved May 22, 2007.
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