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== A request ==

Hi Middayexpress, I'm currently in the process of trying to bring FGM to good article (GA) status, with a view to possibly bringing it to featured article (FA) status. This means everything in it has to be very accurate, the content has to be fully policy compliant, the reference/citation formats have to be consistent, and there can't be any plagiarism, too-close paraphrasing, or too-far straying from the source material.

FGM is a subject that crosses many scholarly boundaries: medicine, law, sociology, human rights, political science, anthropology, ancient history, current affairs. For each of these subjects, we have to use appropriate sources, which makes it a harder article to work on than most. We have to use ancient historians for the ancient history section; medical sources (per ]) for the medical section; political scientists and human rights experts for other sections; journalists for current affairs, and so on. Sometimes there are FGM specialists we can trust who have written about all these areas in the scholarly literature. But we have to be careful that they're using their sources properly, and often they're not. For example, several of the sources have misinterpreted the classical sources, so when that happens, we have to return to the best sources available (the sources' sources, and if necessary the sources' sources' sources).

When I start tentatively trying to fix these things, you revert, including reverting to inconsistent reference formats and misdescribed source material. This has made article development almost come to a halt.

Can I ask that, instead of the current situation, you let me fix the article to GA standard, then you bring your sources, and we work together to weave them into the narrative? That's easily done, and in fact it's a lot easier to do that once a good structure is in place. The current situation is that we have an article that isn't good, improvements are reverted, but then some good material is added to the bad version, which means we end up with a mish-mash that is very hard to fix. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 22:27, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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Ajuuraan State

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Know

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Question about images showing brands.

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Hi Chaswmsday. As a recent contributor to discussion on the WP:NOTADVERTISING policy, I was wondering if you could perhaps help clarify a related issue? Does including an image of a particular brand of a given country's main export constitute advertising (i.e. does it breach that policy)? I ask because an editor has suggested that adding this photo of Ethiopian Blessed Coffee brand bags by the Maryland state government as an example of Ethiopia's main export, coffee, is advertising. I believe the situation is little different from the Iran Khodro car photo that's included on the Iran article as an example of one of Iran's main exports, cars (c.f. ). The Manual of Style's WP:PERTINENCE sub-policy also seems to support the both commodity pics' relevance. Please advise. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:59, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
As you may have noted from my discussions, I have some serious disagreements about proper content with the seemingly self-appointed "powers that be" within Misplaced Pages. That being said, your question is not one I've ever considered. My best hunch, at least at en.Misplaced Pages, is that such an image would probably be OK if it's in the public domain or similarly free (probably contatined in WikiMedia Commons), or licensed, as was the image you cited. I'm certainly no expert in this area. You may wish to enquire at Commons. Other than that, it's anyone's guess what the opinion of the "powers that be" here in en.WP might be... --Chaswmsday (talk) 17:25, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

End copy --Chaswmsday (talk) 17:30, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. That's what I had thought. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 17:33, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

French Montana

Do you mind reading WP:OVERLINK and then explaining this edit here? After you do that, a talkback template would be appropriately left on my talk page. Thank you. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi. A subject's ethnicity or nationality is commonly linked in the first sentence of blps (c.f. WP:OPENPARA). Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi. No it's not. It should be listed, but not linked. Also, "Ethnicity ... should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability." And by "emphasized" it means discussed.
Against that see WP:OVERLINK in which nations should not be linked. Particularly egregious is when there's a city or province/state linked immediately before it.
In short, while many articles do link the country of a subject's birth or nationality, it should not be linked. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
WP:OVERLINK doesn't appear to discuss nationality. WP:OPENPARA's Petrarch example is also linked accordingly. But point taken. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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Template

Hello Middayexpress. I think it would be a great idea for Somali regions to have this template as it would be more convenient to look up related articles. 26oo (talk) 21:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Iman

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Ethiopian–Adal war

Hello! What is the Weakening of both empires opens'? I don't understand what is a both empires? Ethiopian Empire and Portuguese Empire or Ethiopian Empire and Ottoman empire? Or... Senior Strateg (talk) 08:54, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Somalia Post

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Nice work on demographics and languages

NICE WORK!... on to religion next? Six paragraphs on a controversial subject with two sources cited. I am scared to even touch it. — አቤል ዳዊት(Janweh64) (talk) 02:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

No prob. Middayexpress (talk) 16:28, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Would you still be opposed to including Bati girl in Argobba people. The photographer has admitted mistake and corrected both flickr and his website. I believe I have made a good argument for why we can be sure she is Argobba. I believe your only problem with it was that the photographer did not also identify her. — አቤል ዳዊት(Janweh64) (talk) 02:03, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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Test post

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  • Note: By removing the <div> parameters from the template above, new posts are posting correctly here. Again, this is very likely due to the formatting of this page. I'd rather not change the template that all users receive, though, because this is an uncommon problem. Northamerica1000 16:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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Looks like it was the template coding after all; seems to be all sorted out now. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 16:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Test post

Test

Per discussion at my talk page. Northamerica1000 17:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

It appears that you have fixed the formatting errors that were occurring with </div> markup here! Cheers, Northamerica1000 17:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes! It seems to be all working now. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 17:25, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Theodor Gebre Selassie

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Abdullah Mohamed Fadil

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Mohamed Maalimey

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harla

what if the language heading is left out because it looks weird with cushitic or semitic line. Baboon43 (talk) 19:33, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Middayexpress (talk) 19:34, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

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Somaliland forces

HI,

How are you doing?

My name is Abdirahim, and I live in Abaarso, Somaliland. I want to make some changes on the Somaliland Armed Force page (http://en.wikipedia.org/Somaliland_military), which you recently have made some changes in.

I would really appreciate if you could help me with the amendments as I am new in altering articles in Misplaced Pages.

I would really like to hear from you soon.

Thanks!

Best,


Abdirahim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdirhm (talkcontribs) 08:53, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
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Somali Postal Service

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Request

I was busy on trying to make a page; I was just practicing. I made a page on my user page, and it somewhat looks fine. It is on here ]. You are more welcomed to make changes on it if you want to. I would like to work with you in a project--anything that you feel happy with will please me too. I want to learn more about using Misplaced Pages, how to find and use credible source, for instance. I go to a school on day time, but I will hopefully be online for at least an one hour a day.

I am very keen to hear from you and to work with you.

Thank you, Middayexpress

Best Regard,

Abdirahim

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Task Force

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SAF structure

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Hey

i wanted to edit this article. Would you like to help me find information about this guy? Nusayba--Nusayba Saeed Askar (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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Waraabe

Hi Middayexpress. Faysal Waraabe's son was arrested along with a female companion originally from Wajir in Laascaanood, Sool. The matter is still being investigated but all signs point to them being radicalized by what he calls 'unjust groups'. Faysal Waraabe gave an interview to the BBC Somali Service days after the incident occurred and said that they traveled from Burco to Laascaanood after he previously prevented his son from leaving for Yemen. There are sources and the audio, but they are in Somali.123 26oo (talk) 11:16, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 22:58, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thank you for your consistently good editing on the list about Somalian journalists. Crtew (talk) 14:34, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 14:36, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello

Hey Middayexpress. I'm up in the middle of the night in NZ, and honestly despite our differing shades of approach, I'm fascinated by your particular take and special expertise on Somalia. Do you have time for half an hour's general chit-chat? Buckshot06 (talk) 14:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Sure, a bit later though. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 14:55, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to withdraw the invite before properly getting started; on second thought, I am wilting, so I'll go to bed. Best wishes in your time zone !! Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 15:02, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Likewise. Middayexpress (talk) 15:05, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Natural resources

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A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for doing quality investigation into socks. What you do is thorough and you intuitively understand when good faith has been transgressed, which can be difficult to call out. I appreciate what you do. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

help adding language link

could you please help in adding Arabic link in the language bar of the Article Tekezé River, as follows: ar:نهر سيتيت

Note that some of the pages on this article have already the Arabic language link.

Kind Regards and thank you in advance.

Mussapedia (talk) 09:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mussapedia. Interwiki links now appear to be managed by Wikidata. Here are instructions on how to add them. It can also now apparently transfer the coding automatically. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 14:32, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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Somali Airlines

Don't you think having an image for a DC-3 adds more variety to the article? It already has an Airbus A310 in the Fleet section.--Jetstreamer  13:47, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps, but I think it's maybe better to show one in flight. A Fokker could also work. Middayexpress (talk) 13:51, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
The infobox already includes an airborne aircraft. There are two F-27 pics at WP:COMMONS.--Jetstreamer  14:00, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, but every other aircraft is terrestrial. One of those Fokker F-27s in lieu of the Boeing 707 seems adequate. There's already a Boeing 707 at Frankfurt, and an aircraft at Fiumicino. Middayexpress (talk) 14:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Somali language

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Eritrean Americans

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Amina

Hi, I am not sure, I was told her sub-clan is from Taleh but I can't verify that. 26oo (talk) 07:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Re:Overlinking

As you did on the French Montana article here. Please see WP:OVERLINK. The city of his birth is linked immediately before, and so if someone says "hey what's that country in norther Africa that's on the coast?" and somehow associate that country with this subject, they'll still be able to find it through his birth city. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:51, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. WP:OVERLINK, also known as WP:REPEATLINK, pertains to repetitious links. It does not apply to links that are included once ("A term should be linked, generally, at most once in an article's lead, perhaps once again in the main article body, and perhaps once at first occurrence in each infobox, table, caption, and footnote"). Morocco was not linked to at all prior to that link. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
No. They are two separate things.
An overlinked article contains an excessive number of links, making it difficult to identify links likely to aid the reader's understanding significantly. In particular, unless they are particularly relevant to the topic of the article, the following are not usually linked:
  • everyday words (expressions, phrases, dialect, etc.) understood by most readers in context;
  • names of major geographic features and locations; languages; religions; common occupations; and nominal letters;
whereas repeat link is described below that:
A term should be linked, generally, at most once in an article's lead, perhaps once again in the main article body, and perhaps once at first occurrence in each infobox, table, caption, and footnote.
They are both discussed in the same section and neither should happen. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Either way, his place of birth is relevant as he's naturalized. It was also at the time not linked at all, so overlink obviously does not apply. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:16, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
It clearly does apply as it's a "major ... location". If you would like to ask if it applies on the talk page of the guideline, feel free to.
On the other hand WP:MOSBIO, or more specifically WP:OPENPARA, states
  1. Context (location, nationality, or ethnicity);
    1. In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable.
    2. Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.
Since he's notable as a rapper and not a Moroccan, this MoS implies that his place of birth shouldn't even be mentioned. The MoS has been used to remove place of birth in many, many articles where it's not a relevant fact. As there is some question as to whether he's notable for having been born in Morocco, I have left it for now, but it wouldn't take much to convince me that it should be removed and left only for the personal life section. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:43, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Major geographic locations refers to things like Earth, not to countries of origin. Openpara is also not really relevant here since the link was in the body, not the opening phrase. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:01, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Aden Duale

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A request

Hi Middayexpress, I'm currently in the process of trying to bring FGM to good article (GA) status, with a view to possibly bringing it to featured article (FA) status. This means everything in it has to be very accurate, the content has to be fully policy compliant, the reference/citation formats have to be consistent, and there can't be any plagiarism, too-close paraphrasing, or too-far straying from the source material.

FGM is a subject that crosses many scholarly boundaries: medicine, law, sociology, human rights, political science, anthropology, ancient history, current affairs. For each of these subjects, we have to use appropriate sources, which makes it a harder article to work on than most. We have to use ancient historians for the ancient history section; medical sources (per WP:MEDRS) for the medical section; political scientists and human rights experts for other sections; journalists for current affairs, and so on. Sometimes there are FGM specialists we can trust who have written about all these areas in the scholarly literature. But we have to be careful that they're using their sources properly, and often they're not. For example, several of the sources have misinterpreted the classical sources, so when that happens, we have to return to the best sources available (the sources' sources, and if necessary the sources' sources' sources).

When I start tentatively trying to fix these things, you revert, including reverting to inconsistent reference formats and misdescribed source material. This has made article development almost come to a halt.

Can I ask that, instead of the current situation, you let me fix the article to GA standard, then you bring your sources, and we work together to weave them into the narrative? That's easily done, and in fact it's a lot easier to do that once a good structure is in place. The current situation is that we have an article that isn't good, improvements are reverted, but then some good material is added to the bad version, which means we end up with a mish-mash that is very hard to fix. SlimVirgin 22:27, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

  1. Dvorak, John C. (April 2002). "Missing Links". PC Magazine.