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* '''Keep''' - (ec) Although not as commonly used as parallel terms for previous generations, this still seems to be a Japanese-English crossover term that will generate user inquiry. The concept is best covered encyclopedically, as the current imperfect article demonstrates. Keep under the policy of ], use common sense to improve the encyclopedia. ] (]) 17:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC) * '''Keep''' - (ec) Although not as commonly used as parallel terms for previous generations, this still seems to be a Japanese-English crossover term that will generate user inquiry. The concept is best covered encyclopedically, as the current imperfect article demonstrates. Keep under the policy of ], use common sense to improve the encyclopedia. ] (]) 17:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' Important concept that deserves an article. More than a mere dictionary definition. As to this request, ]! <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 18:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC) * '''Keep''' Important concept that deserves an article. More than a mere dictionary definition. As to this request, ]! <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 18:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' Ryulong suggested on my talk page that he does not like my comment. My evaluation in this article was based solely upon this article. While one could ] conclude that the tandem and serial requests for deletion were part of a larger campaign, I have repeatedly stated that I would ]. Obviously, he reads NOT A DICTIONARY and WORD in a manner differently than I, and I would have to say that is his right. However, when the serial requests for deletion on other articles are ill advised, and could easily be interpreted as harassment, even if that was not the intent. I gather that he has gone to ], and there is nothing I can do about that. I meant no offense, but I will not be bullied into a retraction when there is nothing to retract. I will respect his right to post his opinion, and I expect reciprocity. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 02:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as discussed above. &mdash;] ] 21:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12 *'''Keep''' as discussed above. &mdash;] ] 21:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12
*'''Keep''' - ] doesn't seem to have been followed, and this is most certainly not a mere dictionary definition. The article has some history, but lacks more sources from paywalled works like and . Its also interesting to note that Misplaced Pages has one of the best histories and coverage of the idiom; surpassing dictionaries and other word sites including Wiktionary. ] (]) 05:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC) *'''Keep''' - ] doesn't seem to have been followed, and this is most certainly not a mere dictionary definition. The article has some history, but lacks more sources from paywalled works like and . Its also interesting to note that Misplaced Pages has one of the best histories and coverage of the idiom; surpassing dictionaries and other word sites including Wiktionary. ] (]) 05:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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Gosei (Japanese diaspora)

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This is a term that has very little usage in any media, only picked up by original author Ansei (a.k.a. Tenmei) in whatever research he performed. There is no analogous article at the Japanese Misplaced Pages, which seems to cut off at the Yonsei terminology. The only other project where this article exists is at Simple English where it has been authored by Ansei himself. —Ryulong (琉竜) 06:14, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 06:20, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 06:20, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete. Issei, Nisei and Sansei are needed. Yonsei, very likely unnecessary. Gosei certainly unnecessary. Bueller 007 (talk) 08:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep - This is one of the few JA related articles where an equivalent in JA Misplaced Pages is not needed (overseas diaspora generally has very weak connection to Japan) and it is referenced in a number of legitimate sources by Ansei. It is accepted as a term in discussions about Japanese-American history. I am willing to see this article kept. It can certainly be better written and improved. Jun Kayama 13:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment: This AfD is part of a tag team event -- see here.

It is noteworthy that Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2013_May_31 includes so many articles in which the same writer invested time and research? --Tenmei (talk) 15:20, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Tenmei/Ansei, stop assuming bad faith.—Ryulong (琉竜) 15:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Concur with Ryulong in this case. Current AfD should be judged on its own merits. Unrelated AfDs have no place here for discussion. Jun Kayama 13:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
@ Borock -- Ryulong's summary assessment is inaccurate. A quick review shows that Gosei is explicit in a range of cited reliable sources here + here + here + here + here + here +here + herehere + here. --Tenmei (talk) 16:46, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Gosei is cited in numerous instances and is part of the lexicon of Japanese-American studies. However, this last generation is extremely small in number, and lacks achievements equivalent to Issei, Nisei, so all references will be solely to the fact they exist as a demographic and nothing more. Jun Kayama 13:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Comment Ryulong suggested on my talk page that he does not like my comment. My evaluation in this article was based solely upon this article. While one could WP:duck conclude that the tandem and serial requests for deletion were part of a larger campaign, I have repeatedly stated that I would WP:AGF. Obviously, he reads NOT A DICTIONARY and WORD in a manner differently than I, and I would have to say that is his right. However, when the serial requests for deletion on other articles are ill advised, and could easily be interpreted as harassment, even if that was not the intent. I gather that he has gone to WP:ANI, and there is nothing I can do about that. I meant no offense, but I will not be bullied into a retraction when there is nothing to retract. I will respect his right to post his opinion, and I expect reciprocity. 7&6=thirteen () 02:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
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