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Template:Findsourcesnotice Indian Against Corruption initiative has a sufficiently large following (18500 facebook followers, 7000 followers on Causes. This article needs more work and may not be deleted.
I've removed the section "15 Enemies of Janlokpal" for the moment: I have no opinion either way about politics in India, but the section is unsourced, biased and libellous. "Enemies" is a wholly inappropriate word to describe dissenting politicians: "critics" would fit much better. Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox, so until evidence can be cited to prove the political leanings of these individuals, the section is redundant ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 11:29, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Attention : False Sources and False Data provided
Alert : False source and false data provided
http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in/about-us << This link has been reffered to as reference source for multiple informations provided within the article.
But this is not the Actual official site of IAC The original site can be found at : http://www.indiaagainstcorruption.com/ Deleting all false sources and false information supported by the same.
http://aamjanata.com is a independent person based blog by Vidyut http://aamjanata.com/author/vidyut/ and hence can't be considered a credible news source. removing
Blaisemcrowly (talk) 08:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
- The website "http://www.indiaagainstcorruption.com/" is a fake website to generate adlinks and money. It has no connection to IAC and is registered to some advertising agency in Haryana. The website http://www.indiaagainstcorruption.net.in was opened by IAC after the previous original website http://www.indiaagainstcorruption.org was shut down as part of the negotiated IAC split to AAP. AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 11:24, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
- A simple "whois" check on the "IAC Kochi" site http://iaccochin.org from where Blaisemcrowly replaced "corrected" text shows it is a fake site registered outside India to "IndSing Technologies Pte. Ltd, 320 Serangoon Road, #04-31 Serangoon Plaza, Singapore 218108".AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 05:26, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Verification needed
Verification needed from the different source ,other than https://we.riseup.net ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThinkingYouth (talk • contribs) 13:24, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- The registered domain is actually http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in. https://riseup.net is the hosting service. Due to Team Arvind hacking attempts it obviously uses secure transactions for domain forwardings directly to riseup.net.
- A WHOIS check shows
- Domain Name:INDIAAGAINSTCORRUPTION.NET.IN
- Created On:02-Nov-2012 11:13:10 UTC
- Last Updated On:01-Jan-2013 19:20:18 UTC
- Expiration Date:02-Nov-2013 11:13:10 UTC
- Sponsoring Registrar:Directi Web Services Pvt. Ltd. (R118-AFIN)
- Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
- Registrant ID:DI_24787281
- Registrant Name:Sarbajit Roy
- Registrant Organization:India Against Corruption
- So they are both authentic websites/domains which resolve to each other. AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 23:03, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Please Stop pushing Biased POV and provide third party published source to claim disputed POV. ThinkingYouth (talk) 05:51, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Biased tone and twisted facts
Please do not add twisted facts on JULY 25 , 2012 indefinate fast called by Arvind Kejriwal, Mansih Sisodia and Gopal Rai intailly and later joined by Anna Hazare.Please Cite the source ,don't add biased tone . — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThinkingYouth (talk • contribs) 13:27, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- This is exactly the point that the article made before you meddled with it. As verified by Tehelka and many other sources, Team Arvind's fast was a washout until Anna Hazare came to join them. Only after Anna joined did the crowds start to come back. This shows that it was Anna who was the face and power of the IAC movement and not Arvind. The Tehelka source was properly cited and there was no bias.AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 23:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- User:ThinkingYouth please cooperate in improving the article. It would be helpful if you made short edits which can be individually discussed instead of, say, 43 separate changes in 1 shot. WP:AGF and don't issue threats in comments. AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Please read the Tehlaka report properly and please cite it exactly ,don't add misrepresented facts that is not in Tehlaka report . Don't add Biased POV . Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox ,so until evidence of citation is not provided , the article sub-section on biased POV is redundant .Please add third party reliable published source(The Websource,Google Photo section and discussion page photo cited are not reliable and violate NPOV and WP:COI.
- User:AcorruptionfreeIndia Please cooperate in improving this article ,Adding the biased citation without proper reliable source is against Misplaced Pages standards and Warning tag to request : cite Reliable source are not threats !So,Please do not sub-standardize Misplaced Pages talk page. Please discuss these Disputed POV issue before editing any further and All the citation provided by me are well source ,Please discuss it before removing it. ThinkingYouth (talk) 08:02, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Alert need verification on Original IAC official website
There are so many fake IAC website link to to Www.rise.net.in . Please add third party verified source to claim official website of India against corruption . Do not add fake IAC website and link to Propagandize . — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThinkingYouth (talk • contribs) 12:45, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- "https://we.riseup.net/india_against_corruption/" is the fully equivalent Base_Url ("alias URL") for "http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in/" which is duly registered to IAC on 02.Nov.2012 after the 26.Oct.2012 split agreement that Team-Arvind would stop using IAC brand name after 26.Nov.2012. So please don't use terms like "fake IAC" unless you can WP:RS it. The 3rd party link is provided by the Domain registrar and WHOIS.AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 23:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Please add WP:RS third party reliable published source to claim this disputed "FAKE IAC" website. www.we.rise.net.in do not represent "India against corruption" .Please add third party reliable published source to claim this disputed POV. ThinkingYouth (talk) 06:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Neutrality of this Article is Disputed
The blatant pushing of biased POV and adding unverified claims and citation without proper WP:RS third party reliable published source by some editors has made this article sub-standard and resultantant in Edit War. Please address these disputes before Editing further.
- Neutrality of Article CIC SAGA and HumJanege complaint against Anna Hazare
The websource RTI web added , do not cite "illegality of Kiosk " and unverified claim of bribing is violation of NPOV without proper verified citation. Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox,until evidence cited from third party verified published source , Do not add biased POV.
- a) Only cite the relevant WP tag and don't recite its contents. The "illegality of the kiosk" is specifically contained in the cited order of the "Central Information Commission of India", an autonomous statutory tribunal of the Government of India, for an offence by Arvind Kejriwal which took place on its own premises and was reported to the Delhi Police.
- Arvind is the architect and Anaa ji is the mascot of Janlokpal Movement.
I added web-source "Tehalaka report " and various other Published source ,Please go through it .Please read para 6 of Tehalka report http://tehelka.com/the-kejriwal-conundrum/ and Title of report and para 2 of Caravan News Magazine Report http://caravanmagazine.in/reportage/insurgent and para 2 of First post report title "Firstpost Politics Why Arvind Kejriwal deserves our unstinted support" http://www.firstpost.com/politics/why-arvind-kejriwal-deserves-our-unstinted-support-464782.html .
- How are all these claims RELEVANT to the "Formation of the political party" which led to Team Arvind exiting from IAC to form AAP ? The Tehelka article is a sober and thorough analysis of the split in IAC written by an author who followed the IAC campaign for years.
- Humjanege protest and complaint against Anna Hazare National activities
This is a unverified claim . Please add WP:RS verified third party published source to claim this section . This section is a complete violation of WP:NPOV and WP:COI . The POV of Kiran bedi used her Ex. Delhi Police Jt. Commissioner position to evade Motor vehicle act violation in the movement and adding unverified ,unpublished photos is the example of blatant use of biased editing (adding un-published and biased google photo source is violation of WP:RS and WP:COI and WP:NPOV ) .Please cite third party reliable published source to claim this biased section or else please delete it.
- The emails which are automatically archived on a mailing list of IAC is RS under WP:ABOUTSELF. The point of the entire section is that in 2012 there was a dispute between Humjanenge group and NCPRI group (Team Arvind and Kiran Bedi) leading to exit of NCPRI group to form a political party AAP (which Kiran Bedi did not join) and leaving Team Humjanenge in control of IAC. This is all well referenced in the article.
- Arvind kejriwal bribed for kiosk outside CIC HQ
Again, Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox , Please do not add biased POV , biased cite without citing verified third party published reliable source to claim itWP:RS.
- This was published by PTI ( a credible news source). I'll locate provide the link.
- WWW.RISE.NET
This is not a "IAC" website . Please do not add it to cite IAC .
- The OFFICIAL IAC website is now "http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in" which has an "alias URL" on riseup.net.in where it is hosted.
Please discuss and resolve these disputes and help us to improve this article to Misplaced Pages standard. ThinkingYouth (talk) 07:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- No comment, WP:AVOIDEDITWAR and don't bring other WP:COI editors from AAP pages into this potential WP:EW. Take it to a NEUTRAL forum to locate uninvolved editors. Please remember that stable edits are preferred over disputed material. AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 08:22, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
I request you to please address the concern conflicts and stop accusing other editors of WP:COI . Please remove your biased POV from the article or provide WP:RS Reliable Published Third Party source to strengthen your (baised) Claims sub section. ThinkingYouth (talk) 08:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Restoring article to last stable state after persistent vandalism
An editor User:ThinkingYouth has been vandalising this article recently. His account is a new one recently opened for edits to article Arvind Kejriwal. The edits to this page are linked to a claimed NPOV / bias concerning Arvind Kejriwal and hence this editor is WP:COI. The editor has been removing well referenced material on this page for many months which has been examined by several editors for its referencing. He liberally inserts tags with comments threats such as "Do not remove this tag or material will be deleted!". In each and every case the material near the reference was found to be from the source previously cited and was reverted by me after verification, but was reinserted with the same tag. He requested for a particular section "Formation of a political party" to be referenced to a particular WP:RS "Tehelka". I obliged him by painstakingly providing the paras from the source. Now the editor has changed his stance and disputes the existence of this organisation. Whereas previously he claimed the organisation's website was "fake" and wanted 3rd party proof for it, when it was provided from the domain registrar's WHOIS, the editor now claims that the IAC itself is "fake". He is now also coordinating with other editors on their talk pages to get this page systematically vandalised. Accordingly, I am reverting the POV pushing by this editor, suggesting 3rd party options WP:3O, and requesting this editor not to reinstate the stable material inserted / verified for its references by many independent editors without discussion on this talk page. In short, I am asking the concerned editor to strictly follow WP:AVOIDEDITWAR AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 07:57, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Please address the disputes I mentioned in talk page. Do not blame me or accuse me of WP:COI . You are acting totally biased and sub -standardizing this wikipedia article. I advise you to discuss the matter before starting edit war . ThinkingYouth (talk) 08:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
I request Editor User:AcorruptionfreeIndia to stop accusing me of WP:COI and please address the concern disputes and stop propagandize www.rise.net.in as original Official "IAC" Website . I request him further to stop accusing me of threatening him , I didn't threaten him at all, i added the comment tag in this article stating " Please Provide Verified published Source or please remove this " and " Do Not delete the reliable published source Citation " , Which User:AcorruptionfreeIndia was persistently doing without discussing the merit of citation . I no where threaten or stated to delete the Article and well published source Material , My only concern to standardize this article.I found the references source cited to claim the date of formation of "IAC" is nowhere reliable and for sake of WP:NPOV , I requested you to please provide third party published reliable source to strenghten the claim ,which you persistently and deliberately failed to provide . I nowhere disputed the "Existence of IAC Organization" , I nowhere claim "IAC" is Fake , I requested User:AcorruptionfreeIndiato provide citation from "IAC" website ,not from www.rise.net which he persistently avoided and repeatedly cited www.rise.net despite various requests. I request Editor User:AcorruptionfreeIndia to stop accusing me to coordinating with other editors , I request User:AcorruptionfreeIndia to read Misplaced Pages:Dispute_resolution page which clearly stated in case of Edit war , discuss the issue with other editors and request them for their observation to resolve the conflict . Please discuss the matter . We both want to improve the wikipedia. ThinkingYouth (talk) 08:43, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: Both the editors seem to have a conflict of interest with the subject of the article and the contributions history shows both as single purpose accounts. Hence, some expert help is required in resolving this conflict. I would also like to point out to both the users to not term simple "dispute" as "vandalism". Thanks. Shovon (talk) 08:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: Done Thank you for your observation Shovon. As new to Misplaced Pages my contribution is a little and centered to my knowledge based articles ,but i am grooming myself to be good contributor to Misplaced Pages and to further improve it.I request you and all editor in concern of this page please go through the dispute mention by me and please provide reliable sources(to disputed section) to resolve the dispute. ThinkingYouth (talk) 09:00, 4 June 2013 (UTC)