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	I have added another source in support of the claim. This is '''Jainism: The world of conquerors''' by '''Natubhai Shah''' from the same publisher. I hope two published books would be sufficient for the claim. ] (]) 14:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)		I have added another source in support of the claim. This is '''Jainism: The world of conquerors''' by '''Natubhai Shah''' from the same publisher. I hope two published books would be sufficient for the claim. ] (]) 14:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
	:Your surname 'Jain' suggest that ] is involved in giving religion of Chanakya as ]. Sources given by you are not accessible and I never heard of these authors. Various sources claim different religions of Chanakya. source claim his religion as ] and these sources claim that he was born in ] family and had studied ] of ]. This very talkpage templates suggest that this article is part of Hinduism. Due to conflicting sources it is better to leave his religion field blank. ] (]) 15:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)		:Your surname 'Jain' suggest that ] is involved in giving religion of Chanakya as ]. Sources given by you are not accessible and I never heard of these authors. Various sources claim different religions of Chanakya. source claim his religion as ] and these sources claim that he was born in ] family and had studied ] of ]. This very talkpage templates suggest that this article is part of Hinduism. Due to conflicting sources it is better to leave his religion field blank. ] (]) 15:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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This is a very flimsy article. If you compare it to the Machiavelli piece - which links to it - it's disgracefully thin on Chanakya's philosophy and writings. I'm no expert, sadly, but can anyone make it slightly more intellectually credible? -- TinaSparkle 19:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

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Where does the second paragraph come from? It seems like somebody got carried away with the whole Chanakya thing.

Subject:- Chanakya is like "Indian Machiavelli" What do you mean by that. The great chanakya borned much earlier than Machiavelli (not even heard). The work , the culture Chanakya followed and his contribution to Bharat (India) is much much important and greater than Machiavelli.

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Name

His name is Vishnu Gupta, he was called 'Chanakya' as his father's name was Chanak. 'Kautaliya' was derived from 'Kutil' which in english would translate to shrewd.

Nehru's description of Chanakya

Even though Nehru's desciption of Chanakya is mentioned, the text following is very different from what Nehru has written.

The timing mentioned about Sun-Tzu in this article, around 3-century BC, is different from that mentioned in the article http://en.wikipedia.org/Sun-Tzu ... some other books say Sun-Tzu is around 6-century BC... please correct.

Amar Chitra Katha

The Amar chitra KAtha series has a book on Chanakya's story more accurate and interesting than the one provided. I will try to revamp section soon.Bakaman _Bakatalk 02:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

It would be more encyclopedic to detail the differences between various versions of the Chanakya legend as they appear in different primary sources (i.e. the Parishista Parvan version, the Pali version, etc.) instead of presenting a single version from, well, a comic book.

My source was Thomas Trautmann's Kautilya and the Arthashastra. He gives fairly complete accounts of the Parishista Parvan version and the Pali version, a very different Kashmiri version, and the Mudrarakshasa.

Hemachandra and the Pali version give two different birthplaces and the Misplaced Pages article initially gave another. The article must acknowledge the differing versions rather than pretend they all agree.

CiteCop 02:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Country?

No where in this article does it reference where he lived, was born or what nationality he is. Maybe this would be good to put in the introduction NinjaKid 15:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Magadha Rajya, India

He was definitely from India. An acquaintance from India tells me that he lived in the time of the Macedonian Alexander's invasion, and at least attempted to unite India against that invasion. If this is true, the article needs some more editing.

Date of death - article contradicts itself

The date of his death is mentioned as 283 BC at the beginning and 293 BC somewhere in between. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.37.19.80 (talk) 16:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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Eurocentric sobriquets for Indian entities

Telugu: The Italian of the East
Chanakya: The Indian Machiavelli
Samudragupta: The Napolean of India

We don't need such nonsensical Euro chauvinist sobriquets and titles for our entities. What about calling Italian as the 'Telugu of the West'? Maquahuitl 09:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I have changed the language.--ÆN↑ÞÆº§®»Ŧ 16:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

And By the way, while the term "Indian Machiavelli" has a reference as the title of a book, I have kept it. The other two: "The Italian of the East" and "Napolean of India" are just idiotic and ridiculous.--ÆN↑ÞÆº§®»Ŧ 16:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Correct Spelling

We need to switch to the correct spelling of "Arthaśāstra." Lotus (talk) 17:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Anachronistic language

Please try and avoid anachronistic language and remove words such as "professor" and "university". Though these serve to describe it its not historio-ideographically correct and undermines the objectivity of an elsewise very intesting article. Scholar, for example, is also an honorific and positive-laden term whereas professor(see wikipedia article under same name) is connected with a concerete historical and institutional development.

Thesaurus of Chanakya

Chanakya wrote two thesaurus in his life time. The first one is the "Chanakya Niti Sutra" which contains one or two lines sayings which means the people and the king should behave in that particular manor. n. The another was "Kautilya Arth-Shastra" in that he described how to run an empire,in that he explained briefly about cabinet and its members, rolls of them and how to track all them. If a person wants to succeed in politics must have to study it.In that he described how to divert mass in our favor.

Balance

This source looks like a good place to start Glenn, John; Howlett, Darryl A.; Poore, Stuart (2004-04). Neorealism versus strategic culture. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd. pp. 89–. ISBN 9780754613794. Retrieved 20 August 2010. {{cite book}}: Check date values in: |date= (help).J8079s (talk) 20:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

reading a little more the contents (of "Arthaśāstra") need to be summarized better.J8079s (talk) 20:08, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

This page needs some work I want to tag it but I can't seem to find the right tag. sourceSingh, Upinder (2009-02-25). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India: From the Stone Age to the 12th Century. Pearson Education India. p. 323. ISBN 9788131711200. Retrieved 4 October 2010. J8079s (talk) 20:47, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Photo of chanakya

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this is a good photo of chankaya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aujas Bandlish (talk • contribs) 14:50, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

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Buddhist version..?

It is true that Mahavamsa is written in Pali language. But I cannot accept Mahavamsa as a "Buddhist" source. Mahavamsa was written with a political interest in mind and it is a history book, not directly related to Buddhism. It is the history of Sinhalese nation, and there are strong ties with Buddhism in it. But Mahavamsa does not contain the Dharma of Buddhism.

Vishvax (talk) 17:10, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Reliable source: H.V. Glasenapp

The source that I used to support my claim was Jainism by Helmuth Von Glasenapp publisher Motilal Banarasidass. As far as I know, it is a reliable source. My claim was reverted recently. I am changing it again. I request that it be pointed out why the source is being considered unreliable. Thanks Rahul Jain (talk) 14:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I have added another source in support of the claim. This is Jainism: The world of conquerors by Natubhai Shah from the same publisher. I hope two published books would be sufficient for the claim. Rahul Jain (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Your surname 'Jain' suggest that WP:COI is involved in giving religion of Chanakya as Jainism. Sources given by you are not accessible and I never heard of these authors. Various sources claim different religions of Chanakya. this source claim his religion as Zoroastrianism and these sources claim that he was born in Brahmin family and had studied Vedas of Hinduism. This very talkpage templates suggest that this article is part of Hinduism. Due to conflicting sources it is better to leave his religion field blank. neo (talk) 15:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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