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Another blatant misuse

The article Bindeshwari Dubey requires massive restructuring to be able to qualify for a standard biographical stub-it has been reduced to loads of unverified facts unsourced for too long..Kindly check the same

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You are fanatic Hindu you evan don't have a knoowledge of hindu mythology.....Sukhdev Singh Minhas 08:58, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Sitush , I don't know who you are? but I trhink you are using this fake name, infact you are fanatic hindu and active for anti sikh minded organization like VHP & RSS. this is also not good for Misplaced Pages also. you know the Bhardwaj mean, origin, you know the theory of all kshatriya origin ? If you know plz share..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sukhdev Singh Minhas (talk • contribs) 08:58, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Love it. On Talk:Narendra Modi I am accused of bias against the RSS/BJP etc and here I'm accused of favouring the same. - Sitush (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• See User:Titodutta/Essays/Watch_your_words,_please!#Don.27t_predict_about_other_editors. --Tito Dutta (contact) 09:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Sitush I too like this! Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

When partisans of all camps complain because you don't support their POV, you must be doing something right! Congratulations! --Orlady (talk) 15:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It happens a lot, but a fair few of them get revdel'd due to the language. I am variously accused of being pro-India, pro-Pakistan, pro-Hindu, pro-Islam, pro-Skih, pro-Buddhist etc, pro-BJP, pro-INC ... and I am accused of being the opposite of all these and more. I'm also accused of being UK-centric when I am near the forefront in efforts to remove the unreliable Raj-based stuff and come up with articles such as H. H. Risley. What this all shows is that the most likely "accusation" that can be levelled about me is that I am in fact pretty neutral. To paraphrase a chant heard on the football terraces of the UK, "Nobody likes me and I don't care." - Sitush (talk) 15:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• The way I look at it, the more protesting POV-pushers/vandals you annoy, the better you're doing your job. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 16:00, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• Well, to a point. It would be nice if they could be encouraged to become decent contributors but it seems rarely to be possible. And that then leads to the common accusation that I am regularly responsible for other people being blocked in order to further what others see as being my POV, ie: it's somehow not their fault but mine. I can't win! - Sitush (talk) 16:15, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• Just blame the blocking admin, and I don't mind if it's me - part of my aim as an admin is to try to redirect the shit that so often gets thrown at our best content creators ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:08, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• Good strategy! Binksternet (talk) 17:14, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• Boing!, I'm already blaming you for the rain that is pissing down here and for various other so-called acts of god that are messing up my plans. Allowing me to burden you with my troubles in the parallel universe that Misplaced Pages has been for the last few weeks is perhaps taking your responsibilities a bit too far. Just fix the damn rain, will ya? Do I have to light a candle or what? - Sitush (talk) 17:39, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• It is far beyond the Holy Rule Book of Civilty to compare any editor, including yourself, to Millwall. By the power of Greyskull decree of the Cabal of Rouge admins TINC! mandate from the community, I hereby ban you from comparing any editor, including to but not limited to yourself, broadly construed, with a bad football club, narrowly construed, enforceable by guillotine. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 17:52, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• Yes, comparing myself to the fans of Millwall may well have been a momentary lapse of reason. FWIW, there have been accusations of an anti-India cabal of Wikipedians who apparently meet from time to time at a city centre pub in Manchester. That this would have involved one of the alleged members making a multi-thousand mile round trip every few months for an afternoon of plotting seemed not to affect matters in the slightest.- Sitush (talk) 23:08, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• Oh! It would seem that in one of the current fracas involving me, I am expected to mention Margaret Thatcher given that I've already mentioned the weather above. So, job done. - Sitush (talk) 23:27, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Legends - importance

I am improving Roopkund article, where hundreds of skeletons (of 9th Century AD) are found, but no reliable historical sources are available for the reason of such find. I have put my doubts in talk page of the article and I request you to give me suggestion for including the details of legends in the article and how much importance can be given to such legends.(as there are no other reliable sources)Rayabhari (talk) 05:00, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

AFD

Thanks for your reaction. Yes, I take part only in discussion related to the AFD. I always give my views on pages which should be deleted, thats why I vote 'SPeedy Delete' or 'Delete'. I took part in about 65 AFD and voted to remove the pages. and you can see that after the discussion more then 85% pages were deleted. In my views, the page is not suitable for Misplaced Pages. Its not a notable schoolJussychoulex (talk) 07:57, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Priyadarshini Raje Scindia for deletion

What's wrong with that? She is a Princess of Gwalior city. She deserves to be on Misplaced Pages. I have also added some important references on the article as well. Shobhit Gosain (talk) 10:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Take it to the AfD please. Your references were nothing but fashion notes. - Sitush (talk) 11:18, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Not just fashion, references include some reputed government websites and she is being mentioned in most of the articles of Wiki.Shobhit Gosain (talk) 03:01, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

No, the sources that were in the article at the time of nomination were just fashion notes etc. And that she is mentioned in other articles is in large part down to you adding her name to those other articles. Now, I ask you again: please discuss what should be done with this article at the AfD, not here. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 08:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Could you handle...

Talk:Bhagavad_Gita#Netaji_and_Gita and Talk:Swami_Vivekananda#RfC_at_Swami_Kriyananda? --Tito Dutta (contact) 05:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I've added a comment at the second of those. Regarding the first, I really not knowledgeable about the subject matter and am not entirely sure what the issue may be. If it relates to how much detail should be included in article A when article B deals with the topic in depth then I think WP:Summary style might be worth a read. - Sitush (talk) 09:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Also see - https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Paramahansa_Yogananda Red Rose 13 (talk) 16:54, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

If memory serves me right, there is already a very experienced contributor assisting with disputes etc on the Yogananda article. What section of the talk are you referring to? - Sitush (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

It is the last one called Pending Removal of Paramahansa - I am not experienced with this issue.Red Rose 13 (talk) 17:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Image Question

Morning Sitush, I have tried twice in the past 15 minutes to upload an image (a logo for a TV station). I go through the steps, source the image, etc. and each time the image does not upload. I'm unsure what it is I'm doing wrong. Do you know if there is there a problem with the upload wizard or am I doing something wrong that I am not seeing? Thanks...Neutralhomer • Talk • 09:08, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

It has happened to me too! After clicking on upload you find nothing has been uplodaed. Is not it? Check the extension of the file! Or, try this one: do not save the image directly, take a screenshot of the wb page and in MS Paint (or whatever image editor) you use, crop the logo from the webpage. Then try uploading! --Tito Dutta (contact) 09:11, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

You might have to check at WP:VPT for any issues. The wizard was working on en-WP last week when I used it, and it was working at Commons yesterday. I've seen - but not followed - a discussion somewhere recently concerning uploads of screencaptures from TV but I'd imagine the logo comes from a website, not a screencapture. Tito is right that the wizard only accepts certain file formats but I've never found myself in a position where the format I wanted to upload was not supported - it does, however, list them near the start of the process and so it might be worth checking if you can bring yourself to have another go! - Sitush (talk) 09:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

• Upload this image for Gomolo article and see if you face such problem --Tito Dutta (contact) 09:28, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Ironically, the Gomolo image uploaded with no problem (which I posted to the Gomolo page, by the way). Let me try my image again and see if it was a temporary issue. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 09:40, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

But mine did not. No clue why. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 09:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

What is the file extension for yours? Can you post a link here to the source of the image? - Sitush (talk) 09:48, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Sure, the file is here and I am trying to save it as "K26GS-LD_2013.png" (minus the quotations, of course) per the uploading and naming convensions. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 09:58, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I've tried and I hit the same problem, both with and without the underscore. The file type and size is fine, the free use logo etc s/b fine. Have you tried using a different filename? You could call it anything you like and then ask for a rename later, so perhaps try a variant without punctuation just in case that is what is blipping (although it shouldn't). Other than that, this looks to be a VPT issue because I am stumped. - Sitush (talk) 10:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I always try to use the callsign of the station, which in this case is K26GS-LD and I use the year. I can ditch the year and give it a try. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 10:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

: ...or not. I asked on ANI before here and User:Begoon got it to upload, but he named it Image:K26GS-D TV Station Logo.png. I am wondering if it was kicking it because of too many numbers in the file name. Either way though, it is uploaded. :) I would probably check with VPT just to make sure it wasn't the "too many numbers in the file name" and it is a problem/bug in the file upload wizard. Thanks for your help. :) Take Care...Neutralhomer • Talk • 10:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Forum shopping is not always a bad thing! I'm glad that it is sorted but would love to know what the problem was. It could be that the form needs amending to indicate that the naming conventions are restricted in ways that are not presently explained. We could be putting off uploaders without either a fix or an explanation, assuming that this is a systemic problem rather than a blip. OTOH, given the number of copyright violations that are uploaded ... - Sitush (talk) 10:51, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

And here is something to entertain you while you work. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ / Join WER 23:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I have that lying around somewhere as a single, complete with a picture sleeve as was the emerging fashion for singles back then. I may even have bought the thing primarily for the cover because it was a double-A side with Fat Bottomed Girls on the other face. So, the cover picture was, well, fat-bottomed girls on bikes. Except they were not shown as fat-bottomed but as being rather well-endowed on their frontage. Well, that is my memory of it anyway, but perhaps that was a fold-out picture in the album (Jazz?)) Terribly sexist, of course, but boys will be boys and even I could hear the driving beat of FBG, although hearing the the lyrics was beyond me.

Some day, Dennis, you should scour YouTube or whatever for the works of John Cooper Clarke: he was much more my style then - it was/is "grim up north" -and remains so now, but you can't really dance or shake your head to it. Look for I Wanna Be Yours or Chickentown or Beasley Street. A sample from the latter that hopefully does not breach copyright:

Eric can probably fill you in on the atmosphere. It was grim. - Sitush (talk) 01:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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Moving Page -> what is the thumbrule_what_is_the_thumbrule-2013-06-02T16:59:00.000Z">

Hi. I observed edit, in which the entire intended meaning of the title is changed. "Aspirant States" is moved to "Proposed States" - "aspirant" means essentially a demand by the people. "Proposed" may mean, a proposal by Government. The user has also edited map as "proposed states of India", which originally was "aspirant states of India" and replaced the map in dozen or more articles. I think such edits/moving are "unsourced" and propose to revert it with reason "unsourced". Can you kindly give your opinion? Rayabhari (talk) 16:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)_what_is_the_thumbrule"> _what_is_the_thumbrule">

You'll need to discuss this on the article talk page. My gut feeling is that you are correct but the people involved are experienced contributors and it would be interesting to know their full rational (the edit summaries are a bit vague and/or truncated). - Sitush (talk) 10:38, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

User talk : Need help on a Misplaced Pages article

This article India_Against_Corruptionis full of unverified sources and claim and in violation of NPOV . It need help from expert . The most sources are link to a propoganda website www.rise.net.in .Please edit this page. ThinkingYouth (talk) 12:10, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Sitush I edited the India_Against_Corruption article and found , blatant pushing of biased POV by other editors ,adding unverified claims and picture without citing Proper WP:RS .Now ,it is resultantant in a edit war .I request your help in this article to improve it to the Misplaced Pages standard WP:NPOV. ThinkingYouth (talk) 07:00, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I am rushing around prior to going away for a couple of days. IAC-related topics are almost always problematic in my experience but it will have to wait until I get back, sorry. Whatever you do, don't get involved in an edit war - keep on discussing at the talk page. - Sitush (talk) 10:33, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Dear Editor Sitush

Thank you very much for advice.I'll avoid any future edit warring.(and I agree with you IAC related topics are indeed problematic and I'm glad, Admin editors has started cleaning process). ThinkingYouth (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Note

This article went to Afd, was deleted and then redirected and recreated, with the full name of the subject, by the closing admin, after he was contacted by the creator. I just find it a bit odd. The revision history is revealing. http://en.wikipedia.org/Parikipandla_Narahari http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:King_of_Hearts&oldid=552252566#Articles_for_deletion.2FP._Narahari http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/P._Narahari

Please have a look.--Zananiri (talk) 20:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

You'll need to ask King of Hearts what is/was going on. I've edited the thing a bit but I cannot read their mind, sorry. I presume that it is substantially different from the previously deleted version because otherwise it could have been deleted per WP:CSD as an article recreated after an AfD. Too many people have edited it now for that to apply, so you'd have to renominate it at AfD if you think it is unsuitable for inclusion on Misplaced Pages. - Sitush (talk) 10:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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A bowl of strawberries for you!

please sir do not delete the information about the page duhan i collected these information with very hard workung thanking u rsinghduhan 05:55, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Re: Politician categories

Reply

Question

What's your problem with me dude? What do you want from me exactly? I haven't created any problem for you and you, again n again is trying delete everything what I created. Leave apart the Priyadarshini Raje Scindia article, but the other external links I posted and the other articles I created, you are behind everything. Any personal problem you have man? You are free to come down to my city and show your cold anger. You are deleting everything with the help of your knowledgeable friends on Misplaced Pages. Man you are amazing and I agree, but please calm down a bit and make Misplaced Pages a happy place for other to survive. I am not taking your place after all. Shobhit Gosain (talk) 16:52, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Try finding reasons to establish the notability of your subjects rather than taking edits "against" "you" personally. Please study the various "notability" criteria. Gook luck. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Meat-market

You used the word meatmarket, do you mean meat market as in meat-market?

Colloquially, a meatmarket is a place where people ogle other people, most usually used to refer to men ogling women and doing so on the basis of the women's looks. Whether the ogling goes any further depends on the context. - Sitush (talk) 19:49, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Would you kindly link to the meaning as provided by you as against the one provided by urbandictionary.com Yogesh Khandke (talk) 07:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

No because UD is no a reliable source. I have explained what I meant - take it or leave it. - Sitush (talk) 07:12, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Well you call a source non-reliable, you use a word with respect to subjects/ sources that has grossly obscene and lewd connotations, you refuse to back up your claim with sources. I don't have the time or the energy to take on the stormtroopers who would soon march in. All suggest is that it is desirable that language used in communication ought to be formal and civil. I leave it to you to have the last word. Good day!

As so often, Yogesh, I really don't give a crap what you think. - Sitush (talk) 07:37, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Meat market is a very, very common term. Sitush description is accurate, though the ogling can go both ways. Yogesh, it takes ten seconds to do a Google search on "meat market dictionary" to find the definition. Try using Google instead of badgering someone. Bgwhite (talk) 07:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism List of Nadars

At List of Nadars, Could you please read the article which i have provided as an proof, it seems your main intention is not in the correct path. If you are trying to vandalise the page, it is not serving the interest of Wikepedia in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr n Mrs (talk • contribs) 18:26, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I've have previously pointed to User:Sitush/Common#Castelists. Have you read that? Is there something in it that you do not understand. - Sitush (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Care of Sir

The article C/O Sir has been created and nominated at DYK (page not transcluded still). Do you know should "C/O" be in cap or small i.e. C/O Sir or c/o Sir? It is not clear in poster, nor I got any help in world wide web. --Tito Dutta  (talk • contributions • email) 08:19, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

How do the cited sources refer to it? It could also be "C/o", and I'd guess that it probably is. - Sitush (talk) 08:21, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Bowlderising the military history of Mahars

Recently I noticed that someone added some caste-puffery to Mahar, mentioning how noble and brave they were, "martial race" and all that. That rang a bit odd to me, having Dalits as a martial race (though not unknown in the shifting of definitions over time), so I dug into it. What I found was that the Mahar were heavily recruited into the East India Co., but after the 1857 affair, like many groups now seen as "disloyal" they were weeded out of the forces, and then in the 1890s Kitchener declared Maharashtra untouchables unfit for service and booted the last of them, causing the various untouchables to band together to petition to be allowed to enlist again, with all kinds of interesting social/practical/mythic/political arguments.

I don't necessarily think that the editors who worked on it before didn't know this, but I imagine this is yet again one of those ghastly bits where members think it's "derogatory" to mention being kicked out of the Army, and so instead of shining some light on a history of discrimination, shifting politics, social realignment, they just gloss it over with "we've always been awesome". I don't know whether my upsetness over this is pure academic "the truth should come out", and to what degree it's part of the Western world's gradual (and partial) rejection of "yay our side is always right even when we're doing horrible things" narrative in favour of histories that admit atrocities and failings of past Euro/American groups and figures. But in whatever case, now that we've largely successfully tamped down the obvious "we are noble Kshatriya forever and ever" puffery, I'm taking more of an interest in finding the quiet ommissions in the non-controversial articles that may have slipped under the radar.

On a minor sidenote, I can't count the number of times that (quite possibly Maratha) editors have stricken out the bit from Sambhaji where I note (with very clear cites) that he was locked up by his father for licentiousness and debauchery. Prior versions just vaguely mention his getting locked up with no context. The bowlderising thereof is alternately hilarious and infuriating for me. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

New article - suggestion requested

Hi. Can you kindly review the article Joan Margaret Legge, created by me (to be developed) regarding (1)notability (2) quality of sources I have used, for reliability etc. Rayabhari (talk) 08:19, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Merge proposal Self-Realization Order & Self-Realization Fellowship

See the talk page regarding this - . Have we wanted long enough? Would like to merge the two. thanks Red Rose 13 (talk) 12:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Talkback message from Tito Dutta

Tito Dutta  (talk • contributions • email) 20:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Guide

I have started Misplaced Pages:WikiProject India/Guide, you can help to expand (specially the "Common mistakes" section)! --Tito Dutta  (talk • contributions • email) 10:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

New York Social Diary

NYSD has been used 91 times as a source/ mentioned on Misplaced Pages, why the latest edit at Scindia? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I really don't give a toss, Yogesh. H. A. Rose has been used far more often and is bloody useless even though some claim it be ok, whilst NYSD is just pure puffed-up name-checking by ... well, exactly who is it by? Who is that guy? The only reason why you would descend on that AfD is because I nominated it and so you perceive systemic bias. The sooner Misplaced Pages is rid of you, the better because you clearly do not understand much about it, for all the words you type. - Sitush (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I am sad that you make such allegations. I told the creator of Scindia above, I'm telling you here; it is unfortunate if we personalise the differences we have as editors, I'd be happy if you strike the venom off, I'm sure you don't mean to sound the way the words appear. I checked NYSD and saw its 91 appearances and then added it, if it is trusted 91 times why is it bad the 92nd time? I also checked whether others take it seriously (I mean real life media) apparently it is taken note of. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Yogesh, Sitush asked you to go away, as is his right on his own talk page. Please just leave him be, at least for the time being. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yogesh, the chances of me not letting fly with some "venom", as you call it, are slim where you are concerned. Why you cannot appreciate this is beyond me - you are an anti-British, anti-colonial, historical revisionist whose understanding of policies and guidelines varies in direct proportion to how well they will suit your purpose. If you think there is any scope for me to assume good faith here then, yes, you are a better man than I am. Now, go read WP:OSE and WP:DUE ... again. That one blog-type gossip website published by, erm, somebody is not worth the screen space it appears on. And reflect on my thoughts with reference to the AfD comments. Just because some ditsy Nigel Dempster socialite column describes her as a queen doesn't make it so.

I don't mind you commenting here when you are being sensible but, alas, that is a rarity and I've been drawn into an awful lot of extremely prolonged discussions because of your tendentiousness in the past. I think I can count your "successes" in those discussions on the fingers of one hand. So, if you want to make a point then that's fine but I'm not wasting any more time with in-depth whys and wherefores. - Sitush (talk) 15:02, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I've just seen this response to one of your comments. It pretty much sums up the problem that people who do understand policy have with your apparent hit-and-miss capability to do so. - Sitush (talk) 15:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I laugh when they call you anti-foo, I laugh when you call me anti-foo. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

The difference is, you have a topic ban for being anti-. Go figure. - Sitush (talk) 15:09, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That doesn't make me stop laughing. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:32, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I can believe that: you seem almost consistently to miss the point, so why should you be any different on this occasion? Now, this is over: you are not advancing things in the slightest & I have better things to do with my time than engage with your silly mind-games. - Sitush (talk) 15:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Since guys with brooms might think I'm badgering you, please reply to the NYSD matter on the article page. Though as I said earlier I'm sunk in RL issues and so I'll get back I don't know when. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

No. It is at AfD and has been referred to there. - Sitush (talk) 15:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Hey Sitush! I am BPositive, who used to co-ordinate INCOTM a while ago. Sadly, I am still busy and occupied as before but at the same time, I am glad that you have accepted to volunteer for the project and co-ordinate it. I wish you all the very best and hope to see some great collaborations in the coming months! Cheers mate! :-) BPositive (talk) 15:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Under duress! If/when you get back into the swing of things, I'll happily pass the responsibilities back in your direction. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy the strawberries. Thanks! - Sitush (talk) 15:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Neetu Chandra

According to IMDB it's her birth date.Halmstad (talk) 01:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for your edits in "Aam Aadami Party" Page.Thanks for standardize the Article.Cheers, Keep doing the good work..! ThinkingYouth (talk) 06:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

My take

What I fail to understand is how an article about this Gwalior woman which concentrates on genealogy for the most part and is reminiscent of Facebook stuff, giving the names of her antecedents, and even those of her children, who have achieved nothing to date, in the infobox and the article, something even obituarists (I know aomething about the subject) generally avoid when writing obituaries, has not been given the boot. The nonsensical references cited by its proponents, citing an obscure American website, not so au courant l with history, calling her a queen and a minor university in the UK calling her a maharani in the lead (a la Facebook) as 'evidence' of her so-called elevated status makes me wonder on what grounds the article has been retained. Was there really no consensus, given the facts? Surely, it amounts to a denial of history - those born after the titles became history never did have any titles. Reminds me of that historian who denies the holocaust took place. To me, the article is more Facebook than Wiki. The mind boggles!--Zananiri (talk) 18:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree with your thoughts about the subject matter but suspect that Bwilkins took into account the sheer number of passing mentions etc that people were able to dig up. Correctly or otherwise, she does have quite a few name-checks even if the contributors to the discussion really do not have much clue when it comes to what constitutes a reliable source etc, and some of those sources were practically WP:FRINGE given their sycophantic use of titles that do not exist. I wouldn't have made the decision that Bwilkins made but, hey, I'm involved and they are not. What does irk me is that while WP:BURDEN means verifiability must exist otherwise content can be removed from an article, it does not apply to whether consensus to keep exists - if there is no consensus then an article stays, and that has always seem wrong to me.

I could use the decision as a basis for adding articles about numerous habituées of the gossip columns (fatuous, self-serving oglers and hangers-on, as a rule, and mostly female for some reason that I've never been able to fathom) but I've got better things to do with my time than add yet more crap to this rapidly deteriorating mess of an encyclopedia. So, I suggest that the best course is one of damage limitation and then moving on to more important matters. Storage is cheap, as the inclusionists are fond of pointing out.- Sitush (talk) 19:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Need Correction and Proper attention.

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits at AAP Page.I notice you reverted a AGF edit and later removed the content( 3 websource) , and ,stating 404s error.If you look closely,the reverted edit had corrected the 404s error link,which you overturned/discared by saying "No need for these extra sources".Pls update the weblinks. One more thing ,Your edit comments ,, indicate something conflicting/personal going on with you regarding/context-of AAP Article page.
PS: Thanks for all editing and standardizing Misplaced Pages Articles .Cheer,Keep doing the good work..!ThinkingYouth (talk) 23:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

You may be correct about the timing of various removals but the statements still have two reliable sources and that is ample. I've not looked at the diffs regarding a potential conflict of interest. You'll just have to take my word for it: I have no conflict, no personal connection to India and am so apolitical that I have never even voted in the UK, where I was born and live.

I am concerned about the amount of "hoo-hah" surrounding the emergence of the AAP. This is based mainly on my general experience that political parties in India come and go at what seems to be an incredible speed, that protests are "ten-a-penny" and that the AAP is itself some sort of revitalisation of the India Against Corruption movement that didn't really last very long - to use a phrase that often appears at WP:ANI, it has been "more heat than light". Misplaced Pages exists to pass on encyclopaedic knowledge but it is neither a news organisation nor a platform for promotion of causes. I can understand that people closer to events might feel very strongly about the AAP agenda etc but this project is not the place to right great wrongs. I could list a heap of Indian politics-based articles that were started with good intentions but fizzled out and are now hopeless because they have been abandoned after the initial enthusiasm for the cause. One example might be the Cash-for-votes scandal. We really do need to get a grip on this sort of thing and I'll do my bit where I can. I'm not always right, of course! - Sitush (talk) 23:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Your comments were amusing (a little funny ,sarcastically),But is that allowed in WP norms to pass sarcastic opinion/judgements.Btw,I didn't implied WP:COI on you!So,No need for clarification.(Answer: He is alive ! :P ) ThinkingYouth (talk) 00:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't my intention to be sarcastic. I'm well aware that articles such as this tend to attract a lot of interest and then peter out (as with the example I mentioned above). If he has gone since sometime in March without food or liquid then he is lucky to be alive, which makes me think it is more likely a symbolic act and a case of wearing a fur coat and no knickers. That's not a meaningful protest, is it? Do you think anyone involved in these various Indian protests has heard of, say, Bobby Sands? Like him or loathe him, that was a deeply-felt protest. - Sitush (talk) 00:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Bangalore Tamils

Hi Sitush,

This article is wriiten completely from a Tamil perspective. Can you please review this article if you find time. I am currently traveling, so do not have much of time to do the same. Thanks, — Abhishek  09:52, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

AAP

Dear Sitush, so glad you could squeeze me while editing Nagercoil etc. I OTH edit coolly, under no time pressure to reach 1 million edits. Please go over my edits coolly, I'm in no hurry. News sources about AAP (or even IAC in Kejri days) are hurried affairs with each reporter scrambling to get "breaking news" into their feed and damn the quality. Which is why analysis pieces written 1 month after the fact (Revati Laul of Tehelka comes to mind), are so much better. PS: "poor edits" is WP:NPA. AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk) 17:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

No it's not. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

IAC

I disagree with your removing the image of "Manoj Pai" conversing happily with Anna Hazare, and retaining one of the other G-Sec "Karira" with his back to Anna. The article also referred to "Many of the present participants ..." so 2 images was in context. The image of Manoj Pai was previously cited by me to User:ThinkingYouth in the Talk page as an example of the camaderie between IAC and Anna, is that why it was removed ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AcorruptionfreeIndia (talk • contribs) 17:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Look, take all this stuff to the article talk pages and please be careful. You are getting fairly close to being blocked or even topic banned. You clearly have a huge POV and/or conflict of interest going on. - Sitush (talk) 17:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)