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Revision as of 06:56, 27 June 2013 editMaurice Carbonaro (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users11,590 edits == Flagship_car#Automotive or Flagship#Automobiles? == Possible wp:COI.← Previous edit Revision as of 08:16, 27 June 2013 edit undoStepho-wrs (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers48,657 edits Flagship_car#Automotive or Flagship#Automobiles?: What COI?Next edit →
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:Presumably you mean my reversion. I dont' understand some things about your reversion of my reversion "Undid revision 561670080 by Stepho-wrs (talk) I read User:Stepho-wrs presentation page: possible wp:COI. Please consider wp:3rr & opening comment on talk page as wp:AGF. Thanks.)":
:#What conflict of interest do I supposedly have? I have neither increased nor decreased any point of view and the link appears and works exactly the same to the readers.
:#Who are you saying is supposed to be assuming good faith? My edit summary said "REvert good faith edit. Fixed ] instead." I.e. I explicitly said yours was a good faith edit but that I found another way to fix the problem (which naturally I think is better, see below).
:#Which talk page has the relevant 'Opening comment'? Neither yours nor mine seem to say anything relevant to this topic.
:#Why did you mention the 3RR rule? I reverted only a single time because I fixed the problem through a different (arguably better) method than yours.
:#Where did ] come from? The contention is over whether <nowiki>]<nowiki/> or <nowiki>]<nowiki/> is the better link. I contend that 'flagship car' is better because if we ever get a separate article about flagship cars/automobiles then 'flagship car' can either be the article or a redirect to the new article - simple, easy and very hard to have hidden problems. Whereas 'Flagship#Automobiles' requires us to find every article that uses it (winnowing out the other articles that link to plain 'Flagship' or its other sections) and change them one by one - tedious, error prone and very easy to miss some.
:Note: 'flagship car' originally pointed to plain old 'flagship', my fix was to make 'flagship cars' point to 'Flagship#Automotive'. ~~~~

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Long article?

Isn't this article way too long? It seems like some new pages should be split off from it. I realise it would be some work. Don't know if there are official guidelines for this. --81.179.93.205 (talk) 21:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe some sections could be split off... Octave8 (talk) 19:15, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Oceanea ...

...is noit a part of Asia. Slrubenstein | Talk 23:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Lexus/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

I will be doing the GA Reassessment as part of the GA Sweeps project.

There are some dead links that need to be repaired: 95, 96, 125, 126, 131, 165, 193, and 203. I fixed some overlinking issues. The writing is fine, the images are good with Fair use rationale where necessary, the lead is solid. Overall the article is great! If it weren't for all the deadlinks I would pass it without hesitation. I will hold the article for a week pending work on the references. If you need to contact me please do so at my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 17:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your review and suggestions; the links have been fixed or replaced. Regards, SynergyStar (talk) 23:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Everything looks good, the article is GA. H1nkles (talk) 04:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Current quality issues

The current issue on the accelerating and brakes of Certain models has been more that reported. there has been a nation wide recall on certain Es and GX models for Lexus. Many people are panicking, they need to realize that it is not all Lexus models being recalled. However, it is a very serious issue. if your vehicle is one of the models that has been recalled your dealer will be sending you a notice, you will need to take your vehicle in for repairs. If you have any further questions you can call (800) 255-3987. Do you think current safety and quality issues, the car accelerating out of control, should be reported? http://my.is/forums/f104/stuck-accelerator-lexus-kills-family-398078/ http://www.justicenewsflash.com/2009/09/01/runaway-lexus-kills-4_200909012035.html http://kansascity.injuryboard.com/automobile-accidents/toyota-denied-customer-complaints-on-sudden-acceleration-problem-for-more-than-5-years.aspx?googleid=274028 http://www.autosafety.org/again-nhtsa-probes-sudden-acceleration

--Aizuku (talk) 07:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Very sad accident, the wrong floor mat was used (added to the ES article). SynergyStar (talk) 15:06, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to IP 134.154.170.210 for your information, aside from the floor mat fix, the ES has not been further involved. Also help phone #s and dealer service info probably would be more helpful elsewhere, because this page is not intended for general discussion. Thanks SynergyStar (talk) 08:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Listing of awards and slogan in lead

I notice there's a listing of awards in the intro paragraph. Is there reason to include them, and if there is, why are they included in the introduction? Would it be more appropriate to have the list of notable awards included in the Marketing or other section? Toyota marked cars, and many other makes have received many similar recognitions yet do not have them included in their article intro. Seems like an NPOV issue that so much weight is given to them in the intro.--Retran (talk) 11:33, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Also why is there a little orphan sentence regarding the "motto". That should definitely be included in the Marketing section!--Retran (talk) 11:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions, the awards and slogan have been there for quite a long time, and if you look at a number of company articles, the slogan is included (e.g. Volkswagen, Gillette, Continental Airlines). However, the slogan has been removed from other articles, so I don't see a problem with removing it here. As for the awards, the reliability awards stand as a U.S. record which no other auto brand has come close to achieving (14x), but it is not a major part of the article body anyhow, per WP:LEAD so makes sense to integrate them into body. It would be helpful if the guidelines on slogan integration were more specific too. Assuming good faith, thanks.SynergyStar (talk) 18:52, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks SynergyStar for the work on updating the discussion ideas into the article; but now you have me convinced that there is something notable enough about the awards to include a mention in some way in the intro. I would agree its notable to achieve a reliability record that none other has achieved, and that fact is beyond marketing hyperbole. Perhaps integrating that fact as a sentence in one of the intro paragraphs, then relying on it being expounded upon (as it already is) further in the body would do the would keep a mention of the reliability record consistent with WP:LEAD. Retran (talk) 06:22, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Retran for your suggestions, it's possible a sentence could be added, however readers can now find the reliability references in the production section, and the slogan in the marketing section, as suggested (incidentally, it used to be that Template:Infobox company had a slogan field, but no longer--also showing the lead section details can change). With the lead having the basic summary points, some details can be saved for the body. Thanks again for your comments, SynergyStar (talk) 06:51, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Flagship_car#Automotive or Flagship#Automobiles?

Possible WP:COI. Please check recent history. Thanks.   M aurice   Carbonaro  06:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Presumably you mean my reversion. I dont' understand some things about your reversion of my reversion "Undid revision 561670080 by Stepho-wrs (talk) I read User:Stepho-wrs presentation page: possible wp:COI. Please consider wp:3rr & opening comment on talk page as wp:AGF. Thanks.)":
  1. What conflict of interest do I supposedly have? I have neither increased nor decreased any point of view and the link appears and works exactly the same to the readers.
  2. Who are you saying is supposed to be assuming good faith? My edit summary said "REvert good faith edit. Fixed ] instead." I.e. I explicitly said yours was a good faith edit but that I found another way to fix the problem (which naturally I think is better, see below).
  3. Which talk page has the relevant 'Opening comment'? Neither yours nor mine seem to say anything relevant to this topic.
  4. Why did you mention the 3RR rule? I reverted only a single time because I fixed the problem through a different (arguably better) method than yours.
  5. Where did Flagship_car#Automotive come from? The contention is over whether <nowiki>flagship or <nowiki>flagship is the better link. I contend that 'flagship car' is better because if we ever get a separate article about flagship cars/automobiles then 'flagship car' can either be the article or a redirect to the new article - simple, easy and very hard to have hidden problems. Whereas 'Flagship#Automobiles' requires us to find every article that uses it (winnowing out the other articles that link to plain 'Flagship' or its other sections) and change them one by one - tedious, error prone and very easy to miss some.
Note: 'flagship car' originally pointed to plain old 'flagship', my fix was to make 'flagship cars' point to 'Flagship#Automotive'. ~~~~
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