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:::I enjoyed editing Misplaced Pages for years without warning, block, ban or sanction. Switched to a new account because of privacy concerns. Tried to defend a BLP (Phoenix Jones) and was introduced for the first time to this strange new world of WP:AN/ANI and professional blockers, which my years of non-administrative content editing hadn't equipped me to handle. I don't fault you for turning me down, but it's not that easy just to find someone with seniority and experience. Nihonjoe did, but then the blockaholics mobbed me. I guess I could just start a new account under different name, I'm technically adept enough to do so without detection, but it would be "giving truth to the lie" really, as my objection throughout this has been "no I don't sock." This is Colton Cosmic. :::I enjoyed editing Misplaced Pages for years without warning, block, ban or sanction. Switched to a new account because of privacy concerns. Tried to defend a BLP (Phoenix Jones) and was introduced for the first time to this strange new world of WP:AN/ANI and professional blockers, which my years of non-administrative content editing hadn't equipped me to handle. I don't fault you for turning me down, but it's not that easy just to find someone with seniority and experience. Nihonjoe did, but then the blockaholics mobbed me. I guess I could just start a new account under different name, I'm technically adept enough to do so without detection, but it would be "giving truth to the lie" really, as my objection throughout this has been "no I don't sock." This is Colton Cosmic.
:::: Just a review of the situation says TokyoGirl should not and must not consider unblocking you. You have been referred to the proper channels of BASC & UTRS. Block evasion is a bad thing, admin shopping is also bad. I don't know the details, but the concerns are big enough that many high-profile users are aware of the situation and have tried to guide you along. It may seem harsh, but you should do as instructed.] (]) 13:35, 29 June 2013 (UTC) :::: Just a review of the situation says TokyoGirl should not and must not consider unblocking you. You have been referred to the proper channels of BASC & UTRS. Block evasion is a bad thing, admin shopping is also bad. I don't know the details, but the concerns are big enough that many high-profile users are aware of the situation and have tried to guide you along. It may seem harsh, but you should do as instructed.] (]) 13:35, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::Chris, you place too much trust in authority. Justifiable block evasion is a good thing. The first administrative action taken against me was an no-warn no-discussion indefinite block by Timotheus Canens. BASC is a three-person group that, literally, rejects or passes on 9 out of 10 block appeals. Often the rejections are done by a single BASC member, who signs them "Arbcom." As well, Timotheus Canens sits on BASC and refuses to recuse. The authority is a mockery. As for UTRS, it fingerprints your computer and IP and email address for basically any inquisitive admin to have a look at. Signifies privacy concern. There are I think about 1500 admins, many, many distasteful and thoroughly petty individuals among them who make a hobby of "sockchasing," not to protect the project but rather as a game. All concerned in my case, particularly the "high profile users" you refer to, are fully aware by now that I never did what I was blocked for. It's a matter of their irritation, idle curiousity as to my previous account, and a personal need to have me homage their authority. If you take some time to find out the details that you admit you don't know, you might be surprised that there's really very little there, that indeed my behavior and attention to policy is far better than my blockers. For example it's better than that of Beeblebrox, who actually said, excuse me ladies but you've heard worse, "fuck this site and the abusive cowards that for the most part administrate it" (https://meta.wikimedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Beeblebrox&diff=3475067&oldid=3473654) as well as "stay off my talkpage you little shit." So there's a "high-profile user" as you hold in such esteem. I say that none of these has "tried to guide me along" and you should not trust such authority. This is Colton Cosmic.

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Just thought you should know

...that the editor you nominated for a T-shirt has just been awarded the Editor of the Week Award. I'm sure he would like to hear from you. ```Buster Seven Talk 02:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Frank Cianciulli

For some reason, your AfD of Frank Cianciulli went wrong. There is no AfD-page yet! The Banner talk 16:43, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Speirosmusic

Thorough the link he provided, the user appears to be one Speiros Esteropoulos. His userpage was set to parade as a self-promotional WP:FAKEARTICLE. As neither Speiros Esteropoulos nor his company Speirosmusic have notability enough to merit an article, the topic did not merit being moved to article space nor a user subpage as a draft. So the speedy of the inappropriate user page was correct. Following upon that, a blocking of the user per WP:PRODNAME would be also. Username "Speirosmusic" is a violation of username policy.Schmidt, 16:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Can I block him or should you? Since I've sort of had a back and forth with him I don't know if it'd be entirely appropriate. I don't want him to say that I'm doing it only to be "mean" and it would be sort of a CYA move if someone uninvolved did it. BTW, have I told you I love you lately? Because I was afraid that I was just being a witch to him and I'm glad to see that I'm not unfounded in my concerns over his userpage and rationale on his talk page. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 16:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
  • In consideration of WP:BITE... before either of us block him, and as you know the history behind his situation better than do I and have been involved in discussions with him, be sure to educate him under WP:BADNAME. We have a newbie whose username is problematic but was not "obviously" created in bad faith. Best to politely draw the user's attention to username policy and encourage them to create a new account with a different username. If you want, you can use the {{subst:uw-username}} or {{subst:uw-coi-username}}template for this. And by sending him to WP:PRIMER, we might turn his attention to creating and sourcing appropriate content. Schmidt, 16:25, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
  • It looks like another user has blocked him for the username, but my big issue is that I've sort of tried to direct him to explanations as to why the original userpage was considered promotional and tried to explain that only coming on to Misplaced Pages to create a userpage entry about yourself isn't really considered to be helpful. He doesn't really seem to be too interested in editing about anything else, as his only arguments have been as to why he should be able to have his userpage restored or recreated. If you want to take a crack at it, go ahead- I think at this point he's going to be fairly resistant to anything that I say to him. I've tried to explain twice that pages like AC/DC are here because they have established notability, but it's not really going anywhere. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 18:26, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Soldier Front 2

I blanked the page by accident. It was a bad keystroke on my part and I apologize. Sprinkler21 (talk) 05:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Sprinkler21

  • Eh, it happens. I saw your previous edits afterwards and saw that this wasn't really your typical style, so I figured it was an accident. No real harm done and all. It's not like the time I tried adding something to one of the AfD project lists and accidentally deleted about 2-3 other articles off the list... Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:51, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Opps! :) Sprinkler21 (talk) 21:54, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Sprinkler21

Delete request of User:100loves

Can you please delete User:100loves (all with talk page and contributions), because the user is useless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.171.176.19 (talk) 06:27, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

  • No. That's not how Misplaced Pages works. As far as I can see, 100loves seems to be doing some pretty useful work to Misplaced Pages. If you have an issue with any of this user's edits, the best place to start is to discuss it with the editor in question on their talk page. If you're angry that they have reverted things you have done, then you should discuss it on the article's talk page. I can't delete or block a user because you disagree with them. The only time I can do such things is if they've done something that is overwhelmingly bad rule-wise and they've ignored multiple requests to stop. 100loves doesn't seem to have done anything along these lines. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Category:Page Deleted Hi, I'm very new to this and was wondering why my page "Amyra Dastur" was deleted?(With all due respect)Is it possible to brought back and what changes to be made to survival of page(please give me suggestions) thanks.

Renaldo Fischer

The importance was indicated by the fact that at least one of his books had been published, not only in the United States, but also in Autralia, Japan and Italy. In particular, it has been very popular in Italy for a major publisher. However, I had indicated verifiable references to Google Books. Can you restore the page and leave discussion about it better? --Spinoziano (talk) 11:51, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

  • As far as I could see, the books looked to be self-published through iUniverse for the most part. I'll restore it and run it through AfD if it'd make you feel better, but it's pretty much a given at this point that it'd be deleted unless someone can pull a pretty big rabbit out of their hat. Just publishing something though anyone, mainstream or self-published, or anywhere, US or overseas, doesn't give notability on that basis alone. You need coverage of the author and/or his works in non-primary, non-trivial sources. None of the sources on your article established notability in the slightest. One was an obituary, which are pretty much universally considered to be non-usable as a reliable source since they're written by someone involved with the deceased. The only exception for this is if it's a death notice written up in a big newspaper, such as the LA Times. The other links were to Google Books, which would be considered a primary source at best. A search brings up absolutely nothing that can be used as a reliable source. But like I said, I'll restore it and run it through AfD, but I think it's sort of a futile effort. He just doesn't pass notability guidelines in any format and I can pretty much promise it'll end in deletion again unless someone finds some miracle sources. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 14:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah.. so you are an admin

Didn't see that; I was just going to report it. Was browsing my watchlist and noticed it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:03, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

  • I want to be an admin to work on the backlogs like FTCG. I've been trying to deal with other backlogs for the time being and clean up pages. The mop means janitorial work for me. Its what I find most enjoyable on Wiki. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:10, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but I'll bug someone eventually. I got a lot of little side things to take care of before going down the path for adminship. I'll be an interesting case because I don't want blocking tools or anything... but they come with the job. I'm a wikignome; so I don't plant firm roots on any article I touch. I'm the scattered sort of person that has no use for the tools other than cleaning up messes and hoping I don't step on too many toes to clean the thousands of tags filling Misplaced Pages up. Content disputes are rare for me; I need more experience in it I thinkChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:56, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Request to un-delete SiteScout article

Hi, the article for SiteScout was recently deleted -- they are a significant company in the real-time bidding space and have been covered in numerous reliable sources as per http://en.wikipedia.org/User:SoWhy/Common_A7_mistakes#Common_indications_of_importance_or_significance (Google News: http://www.google.com/news?q=sitescout ) -- What is the process for requesting an 'un-delete' of the article? Or should we just re-submit a new one with more information?

(Disclaimer: I'm an employee of said company, don't know if that's relevant or not) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dankind (talkcontribs) 18:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

  • The big problem was that the article looked to be sourced by things that can't show notability, such as press releases. I do think that the article needs more work, but I'm willing to transfer a copy into your userspace. I'll post the link on your userpage. Now I will warn you that having a COI can be a huge issue and I'd really recommend that you get someone to look over the article before posting it to the mainspace. The other problem was that the page did come across a little promotional, enough to where someone tagged it as such. The thing is that it's really, really easy to slip into this if you're not careful and when you're involved with the company. You have a personal stake in it, so you want your company's page to represent them as best as possible. That's sort of natural, but we have to be really careful about accidental promotional speak. If you want, I'll try to help you write it out. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 18:36, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Awesome! Thank you so much for all your help. I'll have the article improved and double-checked by non-COI eyes before posting it to the mainspace. Dankind (talk) 19:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

good job

cleaning up some of my speedies (I was going through older unpatrolled articles last night, and it does seem I should have checked a little more carefully.) This is why I try not to fall into the temptation to do things single-handed, but instead to rely on my colleagues to check my work. DGG ( talk ) 23:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Domenic Johansson custody case

Thanks for the talk page note. I have added another reference - it might be helpful if you add it (with an assessment) to the source section on the deletion page - otherwise your numbering might confuse. StAnselm (talk) 03:48, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

  • I added it, but the problem is that the Daily Mail is pretty much considered to be a tabloid along the lines of the National Enquirer as far as Misplaced Pages goes. It's generally not considered to be a usable source in any context, not even when they're doing things such as book reviews and the like. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 03:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, ReaderofthePack. You have new messages at SpecMode's talk page.
Message added 07:39, 27 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

SpecMode (talk) 07:39, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Afdesta online festival has been deleted

Hi, I found out that you have marked my article about Afdesta Online festival as a promotion or advertisement article. However, I don't know really what was the main problems, Didn't have enough time to edit it. http://en.wikipedia.org/Afdesta_Online_Festival

The festival is new and just about one 2 years old. So you may not find a lot of news about it but it's popular among artists (Photographers, Cartoonist and etc.). As you can that see, The most leading international juries are participated as jury in seasonal festivals.

Please undelete my article and let me know which part should be changed ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irreporter (talkcontribs) 08:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

  • I'll transfer it into your userspace and highlight what needs to be changed. The biggest issue is that the article has zero sources that could show notability. You must and I repeat must have coverage in reliable sources in order to show notability. Reliable sources consist of coverage in newspapers, news shows, reliable websites, and the like. Notifications of events or non-notable blog entries don't contribute towards notability, nor do any sources released by the AOF itself, even if they're published in other locations. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


I want

The reason of copying and pasting of this wiki www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki that its style in introducing wiki is very goo so i wanted to copy it and translate it into Arabic for Arab Detective Conan fans that's it and i hope you help me in creating my own wiki --Semo4499 (talk) 11:36, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

  • The problem is that even if you like that wiki's style, that's not how Misplaced Pages is done. If you want to create your own wiki that's fine, but you'll have to do it through another site such as Wikia or the like. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 11:40, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Experienced Enough to Consider my Case Yet?

Hi Tokyogirl. I once asked you to consider my unblock case, but you felt you were too new an admin. Okay, how about now? It's a long story but I was no-warn, no-discussion blocked for sockpuppetry by Timotheus Canens. I tell you this with absolute focus: whatever in my edit history you may find to fairly criticize me on, you will never find an instance of socking. Oh I have done IP edits like this one, clearly identifying my account, but that is not "sock." "Sock" requires a deceptive element, and neither namecallers nor policy twisters can redefine the English language. Block evader, yes; sock, no. Nihonjoe saw my side and unblocked me a couple months ago (http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Colton_Cosmic&oldid=561843569#User_unblocked) but one of my, sorry this is really how I see it by now, hater fanboys kicked it over to WP:ANI after about ten minutes. WP:AN/ANI call themselves "the community" but those are essentially chat forums populated largely by a self-selecting crowd of blockaholics, not representative of Wikipedians in general. The outcome was predetermined, they enjoyed it so much, they had to do it twice, I'm reblocked. Well, I don't want this to get too long, but I feel WP:AN/ANI exerting supremacy over Nihonjoe's unblock is illegitimate and not found anywhere in policy. A blocked editor should be able to get a fair calm hearing from an uninvolved administrator or two, and that is policy. If you'll consider it I'd love to answer your questions. I'm currently stealth-blocked from my talkpage and email (i.e. blocked without public notification of reason on the talkpage) but I'd suppose you could lift that. You might be able to email me, I don't know if the email block goes both ways. Certainly I promise to WP:CIV. Now, fair warning, if you treat my case favorably be aware that some of my haters are going to become your haters, and that was Nihonjoe's experience with Beeblebrox. Here's the link to the last version of my talkpage that contains my side of things (http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Colton_Cosmic&oldid=561843569#Responding_to_the_current_WP:AN_discussion_on_me.2C_Phase_3). Regards, and this is Colton Cosmic. PS: Still haven't got around to watching that horror DVD yet.

  • I'm going to have to politely decline- I've blocked people, but I haven't actually unblocked anyone at this point in time. This is a fairly complicated case and at this point I still don't feel confident enough to really intervene in this instance. I think it'd be better to ask someone with more seniority and experience in admin-ing, as right now I'm still way too green to make any sort of absolute decision in this instance. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 12:22, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
I enjoyed editing Misplaced Pages for years without warning, block, ban or sanction. Switched to a new account because of privacy concerns. Tried to defend a BLP (Phoenix Jones) and was introduced for the first time to this strange new world of WP:AN/ANI and professional blockers, which my years of non-administrative content editing hadn't equipped me to handle. I don't fault you for turning me down, but it's not that easy just to find someone with seniority and experience. Nihonjoe did, but then the blockaholics mobbed me. I guess I could just start a new account under different name, I'm technically adept enough to do so without detection, but it would be "giving truth to the lie" really, as my objection throughout this has been "no I don't sock." This is Colton Cosmic.
Just a review of the situation says TokyoGirl should not and must not consider unblocking you. You have been referred to the proper channels of BASC & UTRS. Block evasion is a bad thing, admin shopping is also bad. I don't know the details, but the concerns are big enough that many high-profile users are aware of the situation and have tried to guide you along. It may seem harsh, but you should do as instructed.ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Chris, you place too much trust in authority. Justifiable block evasion is a good thing. The first administrative action taken against me was an no-warn no-discussion indefinite block by Timotheus Canens. BASC is a three-person group that, literally, rejects or passes on 9 out of 10 block appeals. Often the rejections are done by a single BASC member, who signs them "Arbcom." As well, Timotheus Canens sits on BASC and refuses to recuse. The authority is a mockery. As for UTRS, it fingerprints your computer and IP and email address for basically any inquisitive admin to have a look at. Signifies privacy concern. There are I think about 1500 admins, many, many distasteful and thoroughly petty individuals among them who make a hobby of "sockchasing," not to protect the project but rather as a game. All concerned in my case, particularly the "high profile users" you refer to, are fully aware by now that I never did what I was blocked for. It's a matter of their irritation, idle curiousity as to my previous account, and a personal need to have me homage their authority. If you take some time to find out the details that you admit you don't know, you might be surprised that there's really very little there, that indeed my behavior and attention to policy is far better than my blockers. For example it's better than that of Beeblebrox, who actually said, excuse me ladies but you've heard worse, "fuck this site and the abusive cowards that for the most part administrate it" (https://meta.wikimedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Beeblebrox&diff=3475067&oldid=3473654) as well as "stay off my talkpage you little shit." So there's a "high-profile user" as you hold in such esteem. I say that none of these has "tried to guide me along" and you should not trust such authority. This is Colton Cosmic.