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I do accept that formula computation at 21 on page 25 is alright and gives Cp = 16/27.Here the authors - and myself did realize that we had made a mistake of not taking into consideration change in area of cross section of the wind along the path. | I do accept that formula computation at 21 on page 25 is alright and gives Cp = 16/27.Here the authors - and myself did realize that we had made a mistake of not taking into consideration change in area of cross section of the wind along the path. | ||
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:Hi! I fixed your template for you, so someone should arrive shortly. As a quick note for the editor who responds, the edit in question is at , and discussion is ] (the comment above is the latest response). The article talk page seems inactive, so my recommendation is for M S Divekar to ask at Wikiproject Physics. ] (]) 21:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC) |
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I do accept that formula computation at 21 on page 25 is alright and gives Cp = 16/27.Here the authors - and myself did realize that we had made a mistake of not taking into consideration change in area of cross section of the wind along the path.
So the authors proceed to make corrections are recomputed by going on page 26, the authors derive Pideal as = (8/9)*(1/2)*ρ*S1*(V1^3).
Now refer to diagram at Fig 1 on page 21 where S1 is area through which wind is captured at velocity V1. So far it is fine.
Then the author uses a correction factor for area of the wind to say S = 3/2* S1 at the top of page 27. Then P ideal is recomputed as = (16/27)*(12)*S* (V1^3). Again referring to the fig 1, S – is area where the turbine blade is supposed to be located (If I change the turbine blade design – innovatively from S1 end to S2 end- this assumption is not valid), while velocity is at input end.
So are we using different factors taking area at one point and velocity along another point on the path of the wind- to justify BETZ’s formula of Cp= 16/27 ???? This is scientifically incorrect.
I personally feel that we should stop at Pideal = (8/9)*(1/2)*ρ*S1*(V1^3) which means we can extract 88.88 % of the power in the wind captured and not some 16/27 =59.26%.
May be you could consult experts and put my comments as foot note on the Misplaced Pages.
59.92.217.70 (talk) 09:05, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hi! I fixed your template for you, so someone should arrive shortly. As a quick note for the editor who responds, the edit in question is at Betz' law, and discussion is here (the comment above is the latest response). The article talk page seems inactive, so my recommendation is for M S Divekar to ask at Wikiproject Physics. Arc de Ciel (talk) 21:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC)