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Monkey God OR

Thanks for correcting me on this. I've better familiarized myself with OR now. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

kidz in the Kitchen

There seem to be no reasons for the rejection of kidz in the kitchen. Can I get some insight. The ice cream will melt before it getst to you from here. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tricia Ziemer (talk • contribs) 20:04, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I think you are bonkers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.72.120 (talk) 03:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm Bonkers. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 03:45, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Your garlic ice cream hook

Hi, your hook currently in Prep 3 says:

• ... that garlic ice cream is savoury in taste and, according to garlic restaurant The Stinking Rose's recipe, is basically vanilla ice cream with garlic?

As far as I can see, the reference just says: "Mixed in to the six flavors they would make at home and bring to the conventions were savory flavors such as tomato or garlic." Unless I'm missing something, that doesn't support the hook fact. Merely mixing in a little bit of savory flavor does not necessarily make something savory. I've had the garlic ice cream at The Stinking Rose, and I can verify that it does taste like vanilla ice cream with garlic added; the taste is predominantly sweet, not savory. Unless you have some other source (or something else in this one), I think the first part of the hook should be removed; something like:

• ... that garlic ice cream, according to garlic restaurant The Stinking Rose's recipe, is basically vanilla ice cream with garlic?

MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:26, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

In addition, I checked The Stinking Rose recipe linked to in the article, which describes it as "thick creamy vanilla ice cream with a hint of the roasty garlic sweetness. If you didn't know that the ice cream contained garlic, you might not even guess it was in there." That sure doesn't sound savory to me. I'm changing the hook, which is due to hit the Main Page in about seven hours. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Garlic ice cream

On 23 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Garlic ice cream, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that garlic ice cream, according to garlic restaurant The Stinking Rose's recipe, is basically vanilla ice cream with garlic? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Garlic ice cream. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Jodi Arias: Dirty Little Secret

Thanks for revisiting. Schmidt, 04:57, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Why you're welcome. =) ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 05:04, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Age Against the Machine

On 24 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Age Against the Machine, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that on the upcoming studio album Age Against the Machine, the Goodie Mob sings about White Power from a Black perspective? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Age Against the Machine. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

Constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page Jimmy Wales has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. Please use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did, and feel free to use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Thank you. Replacing a photograph with a controversial painting and claiming it is a more recent photo for better identification is a textbook example of a misleading edit summary. I can't imagine a legitimate reason for the specific image switch you made, but if you've got one, please put it in the edit summary, rather than writing something which is simply false. Paintings are not photographs, period. ~TPW 13:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not interested in arguing semantics. I reverted the edit and replied to your comment. Feel free to try to convince other editors of the page that the image and accompanying edit summary were appropriate.--~TPW 14:01, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Garlic production in China

On 25 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Garlic production in China, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that as of 2012, China is the largest producer of garlic in the world, producing 59 million metric tons annually, about 66 percent of total world production? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Garlic production in China. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mussafah

On 27 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mussafah, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1996, the Abu Dhabi Seaports Authority announced a Dh2.4 billion development plan of Mussafah and a new port? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mussafah. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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DYK for Corn production in the United States

On 27 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Corn production in the United States, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that US corn production is ranked first in the world, and 20% of its annual yield is exported? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Corn production in the United States. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 16:03, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

ITN for the haze

Hi Bonkers, isn't there any credit for ITN? Any idea why nothing has been given out yet? I think you know best... Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 16:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, this time I'm not sure. You could ask the people at ITN. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey Bonkers The Clown

I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).

So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.

What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but I think I would rather the mark-up editor ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

ITN for 2013 Southeast Asian haze

On 21 June 2013, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2013 Southeast Asian haze, which you substantially updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 08:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Milo Dinosaur

On 29 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Milo Dinosaur, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that according to Larry Loh of CNNGo, Milo Dinosaurs are a reason why Singapore is the best country in the world? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Milo Dinosaur. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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DYK for Zeng Guo Yuan

On 29 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Zeng Guo Yuan, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Singaporean businessperson Zeng Guo Yuan spent three weeks in jail for placing sunshades at his two stores without permission? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zeng Guo Yuan. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Hayden Ng

Hi Bonkers! TQ for your comments. I have edited that para you highlighted. Pls have a look! Mr S Green 03:55, 30 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnsnake (talk • contribs)

Thank you very much Bonkers! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnsnake (talk • contribs) 04:22, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 June newsletter

We are down to our final 16: the 2013 semi-finals are upon us. A score of 321 was required to survive round 3, further cementing this as the most competitive WikiCup yet; round 3 was survived in 2012 with 243 points, in 2011 with 76 points and in 2010 with 250 points. The change may in part be to do with the fact that more articles are now awarded bonus points, in addition to more competitive play. Reaching the final has, in the past, required 573 points (2012, a 135% increase on the score needed to reach round 4), 150 points (2011, a 97% increase) and 417 points (2010, a 72% increase). This round has seen over a third of participants claiming points for featured articles (with seven users claiming for multiple featured articles) and most users have also gained bonus points. However, the majority of points continue to come from good articles, followed by did you know articles. In this round, every content type was utilised by at least one user, proving that the WikiCup brings together content contributors from all corners of the project.

Round 3 saw a number of contributions of note. Figureskatingfan (submissions) claimed the first featured topic points in this year's competition for her excellent work on topics related to Maya Angelou, the noted American author and poet. We have also continued to see high-importance articles improved as part of the competition: Ealdgyth (submissions) was awarded a thoroughly well-earned 560 points for her featured article Middle Ages and 102 points for her good article Battle of Hastings. Good articles James Chadwick and Stanislaw Ulam netted Hawkeye7 (submissions) 102 and 72 points respectively, while 72 points were awarded to Piotrus (submissions) for each of Władysław Sikorski and Emilia Plater, both recently promoted to good article status. Collaborative efforts between WikiCup participants have continued, with, for example, Casliber (submissions) and Sasata (submissions) being awarded 180 points each for their featured article on Boletus luridus.

A rules reminder: content promoted between rounds can be claimed in the round after the break, but not the round before. The case in point is content promoted on the 29/30 June, which may be claimed in this round. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. We are currently seeing concern about the amount of time people have to wait for reviews, especially at GAC- if you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 09:49, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/High-Probabilty Request Sequence

Dear Bonkers The Clown:

You declined the article Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/High-Probabilty Request Sequence because it didn't have reliable sources. I rescued this article from the six-month old abandoned article category and improved it by removing a lot of the "psychobabble". Can you explain what is wrong with the sources, which have been written by a variety of qualified experts and accepted by recognized publishers and/or peer-reviewed journals? I can try to find some more, but these articles cover every aspect of what is in the text.

You also asked that the references be cited in-line. In fact, they are. Because I took over the article from another author, I kept the citation style that he or she had used, which is American Psychological Association's parenthetical style. This is according to Misplaced Pages policy. Here's an example :Misplaced Pages:Inline citation/examples, which reinforces that the first author's style should be maintained, and shows the parenthetical style. This style doesn't involve little blue numbers, but I believe that it is acceptable. You will see the (Author, date) citations in every paragraph, along with the full references further down the page. —Anne Delong (talk) 12:27, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Dear Anne Delong: I pressed the wrong button, and I thought that it would be more conventional to have an inline citation style, rather than parenthetical. There is a reason why the vast majority of GAs and FAs use inline citations; that is, for better verifiability. But never mind, that aside, the article still could use some brushing up, it reads too much like an essay certainly deserving entry in the WikiPsychology Journal, but I do not think on WikiPedia it will do. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 12:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Dear Bonkers The Clown: I think you have missed my point that the paranthetical style is a form of inline citation, and is just as verifiable as the other (see the reviewing instructions). About the essay-ness: I am pretty sure that this is a well-accepted technique that is being reported, not a new idea that is being proposed. It would not be accepted by a psychology journal because there is nothing new in it that's not already in the cited sources. I have to admit, though, that my psychology and education degrees are both well out of date, so I will ask for help at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Psychology and see if the experts there can suggest some improvements. Thanks for you time; obviously my attempts to make the article straightforward are incomplete if it struck you as an essay. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:03, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Dear Anne Delong: I know it is a style, but just not as conventional, per WikiNorm. Sentences like "(Think of the game "Simon says".)" certainly don't sound encyclopedic. Just a lil' rewrite, just a lil'. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for John Harrison (ice cream taster)

On 1 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Harrison (ice cream taster), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that American ice cream taster John Harrison has a tongue worth a million dollars? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John Harrison (ice cream taster). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 17:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Academic Health Science Networks

Dear Bonkers The Clown

You declined the article Academic Health Science Networks because it sounded like an advertisement.

My challenge is that this is a new, government-funded group of organisations. The stated purpose sounds positive (it is a government initiative) and it is too soon to rely on performance evidence. I have changed it to make it absolutely clear that this is just what the government say...

Also, there are 15 newly-formed AHSNs. On advice from another editor I've removed the list which was linked to their individual websites. It's still in there as a hidden comment so I can bring it back once they each have wikipedia pages.

Is there any chance you could glance at it to see if it sounds less up-beat now?  Many thanks

Inscribe Inscribe (talk) 09:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

HAMS article

Hello Bonkers

I would very much appreciate it if you could help me by pointing out which sections of the HAMS article sound like an advertizement and how i could rewrite them so that they sound like a proper encyclopedia article and not like and advertizement.

I was confused by your comment that I must cite independent, reliable, published sources, which are not materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. Eight of the nine references which are cited are independent, reliable, published sources, which are not materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed.

I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me.

Pork chop tze (talk) 01:46, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Changi Budget Terminal

Hello, so I see you're a Singaporean Wikipedian. I was wondering: have you been to Changi within the last few months? How does the site of the now-demolished budget terminal look now? I used the Budget Terminal when I went to SG two years ago and since I haven't been back, I am unaware of how the area looks now. I can't even find recent pictures of the Budget Terminal site. Has there been new updates on the demolition and the site? Narutolovehinata5 11:11, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I went to Changi last month. It's sorta like an empty plot of land, and if I'm not wrong, there's some construction sigh nearby. Wasn't really looking out for the Budget Terminal, but now that you mention it, I recall. It's paving way for a Terminal Four. Why not visit us again, then? :) ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:21, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (talk page stalker) I'm not sure how the progress is, but I know they are gonna use the site to build a new T4. Whether it is gonna be bigger or nicer or a shopping mall like T3, I'm not sure though. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 11:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Anime Festival Asia

Thanks for answering my previous question. I have one more. Since you're Singapore based, are you familiar with a convention in SG called Anime Festival Asia? Is it promoted a lot on television and in the news? And is it relatively well known in the country? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 11:25, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Ugh sorry, I'm never a fan of Anime. But I do know a few geeky friends who have attended a very similar-sounding fest. I'm guessing it's some major Anime convention with the cosplay and all. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:29, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello With reference to your rejection of my submission: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Geevarghese_Mar_Philoxenos

The person is very interesting and of high significance to the Malankara Indian Orthodox Church. I found it funny that exceptions for notability include Porn Stars and criminals and not pious individuals. Now given, the time of his life on earth, the print media was almost non existent and even what written records of his life are available are not available on the internet. I had reference 2 books which were written about him. I have also included some newspaper excerpts/clippings from a recent event where the church bestowed an honor on the late bishop, though there are no reference to those newspapers. whoever posted those, did a bad job. I have dug up as much as 1 possibly can on the net about the bishop.

In the light of the above, it would be great if you could give the article a second look, perhaps if time permits, share a few pointers on what I can do to improve it more specifically.

Thanks and appreciate your efforts to keep wikipedia honest!

Not so much about notability per se, but I'm really uncomfortable with the way it's written. I'm seeing many peacock terms in the article. We don't do promotional articles. Maybe you could fix that, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:17, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Amusement Park Quarter 3, 2013 Newsletter

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DYK for Heladería Coromoto

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Studio West Article

You recently rejected an article of mine about Studio West in San Diego. Was looking to get some info on why and what I can do to make it acceptable. Getting rid of articles referenced by the home site of the studio? etc. Thanks 20:18, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Hinduism in Los Angeles

On 7 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hinduism in Los Angeles, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Britney Spears's son was given a Hindu ceremony at Malibu Hindu Temple in Los Angeles County in 2006? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hinduism in Los Angeles. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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DYK nomination of Oyster ice cream

Hello! Your submission of Oyster ice cream at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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Saint Francis Veterinary CEnter

Hi Bonkers! We're trying really hard - we're getting a little bit of conflicting info, but we'll get it right! The prior editor sent a note that 'a little more work will do' and we used the wikipedia-recommended live chat to work with other editors to work on this. So we really are working hard to get you what you're looking for, please know that! Since you last reviewed it, we removed two sections entirely, we added a number of news articles, we got rid of the references to quantifiable documentation regarding 'accreditation' that the live chat people thought was fine and dandy but not NOTABLE - so we took those out. And we scrubbed words out like 'advanced' and 'state of the art' and references that could be construed as advertising. So we're getting there!

Hi, Bonkers. You may be familiar with me from the Teahouse. I have to ask, per what rationale and on what basis did you promote the article discussed in this thread? I see nothing that resembles notability. Just so you know, as soon as I get an answer from you, I am going to take the article to AfD. It's a promo piece on a local business, period. Without some good reason why, local businesses are not notable. Gtwfan52 (talk) 06:07, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I think the sources are reliable enough. It no longer reads as too promotional. If you feel like AfDing it, by all means. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 06:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Under which notability rule? They sure aren't for WP:CORP, which states, "An organization is not notable merely because a notable person or event was associated with it" and also states "attention solely from local media, or media of limited interest and circulation, is not an indication of notability; at least one regional, national, or international source is necessary." All of the press I found on the organization is from Metro Philly. That's local. Additionally, it was all on the single event of the grand opening of the doggie rehab and mostly about the fact that the celebrity was associated with it. That is not coverage in detail. And I am sorry, but the majority of the article is also about that, discussing and name dropping about the event. That is promotional.

You might think I am making a mountain out of a molehill here, but hear me out. The author of that article was at AfC to create an article. They expect it to get reviewed. It might be a bit unsettling to get denied, but it is at least somewhat expected. Well, now the article is in mainspace and they are all happy. "But wait, what's this...it is nominated for deletion? How did that happen. I figured when it passed at afc it was good to go." And it should be. When this article gets deleted (and it will. look around. Do you find many articles on local vet clinics? That is because, like most local businesses, they are just not notable.), I can pretty much promise you that Mrpresident80 will be gone as a Misplaced Pages editor.

I edit Misplaced Pages for fun. I am guessing you do too. It ceases to be fun for me when I have to be a bad guy and piss off an innocent person like Mrpresident80 because the things that I like to do here are short-circuted by someone who fails to see the impact their actions may have on others. If you don't know what notability standards apply to what articles, perhaps you should take a break from AfC and find out. Work on AfD's for a while. You learn pretty quickly what it takes to be notable. I gotta tell you, this is very disappointing to me. We see enough notability questions at Teahouse that you should have a fair idea of what it is. And if you are working at AfC, you should know the notability standards well enough to apply them correctly. Gtwfan52 (talk) 07:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Who edits Misplaced Pages seriously? Definitely not me. Do you think WP:LOCAL would be relevant here? Well I've created a few hundred mainspace articles; I more or less know what is notable and what's not. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:24, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

You just cited me an informational essay. It cites WP:CORP in it. WP:CORP is part of the notability policy. Like I said.....Gtwfan52 (talk) 07:33, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, alright then. Delete it! (Actually I did not like it but I just felt sorry for the guy) ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:39, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

I had placed the article as "under review". ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 04:07, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

So it was you! But why? It's very clear cut that under AfC standards, it's a quick fail. Sorry though :P ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't too obvious. And I don't usually use that tag unless under emergency situations like this. Heard of kiasuism? ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 04:34, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Like those aunties who use tissue paper to reserve a seat? LOL ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:37, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Tissue paper? Never seen before. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 04:38, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Broaden your horizon ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:48, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Requesting elaboration

Hi, Can you elaborate the rejection of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Jainism and Hinduism? WP:NOTESSAY, which was provided, mainly talks about original research, however, as far as I understand, the article is certainly not an original research. I have only presented the information in the source. Any help in improving the article to be included in wikipedia would be highly appreciated. Thanks, Rahul Jain (talk) 07:52, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

XenonHD

Can you please explain to me how it sounds like an advertisement? i understand that it is my opinion, but an advertisement and informing are very similar. while informing informs, and advertisement is looking for compensation. i am not getting paid and neither is anyone related to xenonhd. this post is also very neutral and in no way biased. please let me know how to make it fall into the criteria. Thank you ~Cookie1203~

Viatcheslav Mirilashvili

Hi Bonkers Thanks for reviewing my article. Everything in the article is factual and written to provide another piece to the story of VK - specifically one of its main founders and largest shareholder. Mirilashvili was an integral part of the company because of his investment...Why was it declined?

Thanks, 72facts

about notability

Dear Bonkers, thanks about your pay attention. but please guide me carefully about proving notability, as I've been confused about notability. thanks alot

Enterprise architecture framework - history correction

Are you the person who just now removed my rewrite of the enterprise architecture framework history section?

That rewrite is the result of several years discussion with people in the know. It corrected several errors and misleading statements in the previous version. It included references to several other Misplaced Pages pages, which back up the corrections made. And a reference to EA that predates the previous one by 5 years.

How do I reinstate the better version of the history? How do I change it so that it does not get deleted again?

Graham Berrisford

DYK for Richard Eu

On 9 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Richard Eu, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the CEO of a Singaporean healthcare firm is also a musician, with one studio album under his name? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Richard Eu. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Han

Answered you Awien (talk) 13:20, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

My submission at Articles for creation: Muhlenberg Greene Architects

As I am in the process of further researching the history of Muhlenberg Greene Architects, we are simultaneously updating our history on our company website, at http://mgarchitects-ltd.com/history. This information has been researched and cited to other outside sources within the Misplaced Pages article, but some information on the Misplaced Pages page will mirror the information found on the MGA history page. Is this okay? Do I need to cite the Misplaced Pages page on our company website? I'm not sure how to avoid this duplication of information, as I am simultaneously researching for both the website and Misplaced Pages article.

Also, I am researching the company history through news articles and company archives, and have not intended to present a biased view. I am not sure what information in the article reads like an advertisement, as it is all researched through historic newspaper archives and old building blueprints, company archives, and historic photographs. Thank you for your help! LvanS (talk) 15:41, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Berendo Street and Avenue

I noticed you declined (or as I prefer it: denied) my article. I just want you to help me improve my article so it can get accepted in Misplaced Pages. But first of all, I want to say that I think my article is notable. If you haven't looked at the reference of Berendo Middle School, please do. That's where I went to create the "History" section. If you read carefully, you'll see that one of the paragraphs talks about the naming of Berendo. If you have looked at that reference, then I assume that you thought it wasn't reliable. Next, I noticed you wrote: "Entried should be written from a neutral point of view. I believe I did. I wrote only about Berendo, not about something else. If you declined it for that reason, then I don't know. Then it says, "...and should refer to a ramge of independent, reliable, published sources." If you declined it for that reason, then I probably need to provide more sources and/or provide independent reliable published sources. Anyway that's all. I just need you to tell me where I went wrong and I'll see what I do about it.

Thanks, 75.62.133.100 (talk) 22:31, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Ahem. I'm sorry, but If there's no response, then it means you won't help me or what? Misplaced Pages humph! 75.62.133.197 (talk) 18:19, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Sir, please help me! i Apologize about the "Misplaced Pages humph!" thing. It's just that I really want this article to be accepted so that's why I'm writing. Also, I've noticed that you haven't responded to the others who need your help yet. So I need you to respond to them as well. So let's take care of this now. 75.62.131.69 (talk) 00:38, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Other than that I need you to help me find references that discuss the roads in depth. Thanks, 75.62.131.69 (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

This is for not responding to my question so far.

Don't make me assign a countdown phase. 75.62.134.122 (talk) 18:46, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Last week, someone tried to archive this discussion and leave the following comment; deleting the text from here caused the Edit Filter to go nuts, so you weren't given the message. This discussion has been moved into the archives file. You haven't responded to this message. Please respond. To find it, go to 75.62.135.134's talk page (link here: User talk:75.62.135.134). Click on "Archives of old discussions can be found here." It's right there! Please respond to this message. Complete diff is here, if you cre. Nyttend (talk) 23:46, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Ralf Köttker

You must use reliable sources, such as published books and mainstream press publications - I did exactly whats written in the Help:Referencing for beginners. Die Welt and Metropolregion Rhein-Neckar News are mainstream press publications in germany. Additionaly I added his biography from the German Football Association - a highly recommended and also the biggest football association of all country associations. What else do you need? Cr0kesselhaus (talk) 08:29, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Roma Education Fund

Hi there- I'm not seeing gross NPOV violations on this article? Could you perhaps expand upon your concerns for the article's author? J Milburn (talk) 09:21, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Not just I sniff an advertisement rat. Look at the language. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:21, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Don't steal my reviews

You have just declined a few submissions after I had marked them as under review - please respect the tag that says someone else is already busy reviewing. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I apologise, but those were all obvious fails. I think you were wanting to "reserve" the review, when in fact they need no scrutinizing. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:15, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Request for elaboration

Hi Bonkers,

You recently declined the submission I wrote about British Businessman Michael Roderick Oliver on the grounds that the references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability.

Thank you for the feedback. I just wanted to check you had been able to access the articles from two separate national UK newspapers that support the statements made in the article, and that you do indeed feel that this level of press coverage - as well as the regional coverage also cited - is insufficient as evidence of Mr Oliver's notability.

Before submitting, I had looked at the live article for Steve Morgan of Redrow Homes - a businessman of a similar level http://en.wikipedia.org/Steve_Morgan_%28businessman%29. This page appeared to contain references of a similar standard to those in the piece I submitted. If not, please could you explain what distinguishes the two.

If you could confirm that it is his lack of notability and not some technical issue with the references that is behind the rejection of the article I would be most grateful, as this will affect my decision as to whether to persevere with the submission.

Thanks in advance,

John Bowes 1983 (talk) 13:38, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bonkers,

I'm still waiting for a response on the above.

My question again - was my article rejected becuase its subject is not notable enough or becuase his notability was not supported by the references I provided?

I'd appreciate your attention and guidance.

Many thanks,

John Bowes 1983 (talk) 16:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Casa del Arte (Concepción, Chile)

Can you readdress the situation, thanks.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:31, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I am trying to make the article more reach with all reliable contents and reference links. Please suggest me more.

(Arifhasan23 10:39, 12 July 2013 (UTC)Arifhasan23) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arifhasan23 (talk • contribs)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation/Smoka Bowl

Bro, just FYI, I placed as "Under review" before you clicked the "Decline" button. But never mind already, I don't know how to review that. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 10:44, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I think you clicked after actually. At least according to the rev history. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:46, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

AfC Alfreda Frances Bikowsky

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Alfreda_Frances_Bikowsky

"Generally looks good, but the tone is slightly off and the sections read weird"

What? Those are very minor points and completely unhelpful for improving the article up your standards. Please be more specific and more substantive. Mnnlaxer (talk) 13:53, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

IRC office hours for wiki-mentors and Snuggle users

Hi. We're organizing an office hours session with the Teahouse to bring in mentors from across the wiki to try out Snuggle and discuss it's potential to support mentorship broadly. The Snuggle team would appreciate it if you would come and participate in the discussion. We'll be having it in #wikimedia-office on Wed. July 17th @ 1600 UTC. See the agenda for more info. --EpochFail, Technical 13 (talk), TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:18, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Ali_Siddiq_Comedian

Hello Bonkers The Clown,

You declined my submission saying that "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability." I cited to Showtime's website, a radio station website, and the reputable comedy site: Comedy Scene in Houston. Please recommend how to improve the submission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBrodenFirm (talk • contribs) 18:05, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Keith_N._Schoville

You recently declined a proposed article with this boilerplate comment.

"This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Misplaced Pages's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Misplaced Pages, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies."

I edited the document slightly after this comment, but I don't want to waste your time resubmitting it if there are deeper flaws in it. My problem is that I don't understand clearly what sections you thought seemed like an advertisement. I asked an editor on the LiveChat session to look at it and they didn't see an issue with it. They suggested that I ask you directly.

This is my first submission to Misplaced Pages and I have sincerely attempted to be neutral in tone. The subject in question is an academic and I have tried to be very straightforward about listing their academic works and establishing their notability.

Pusat Tingkatan Enam Meragang

You have rejected our page for creation - https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Pusat_Tingkatan_Enam_Meragang The reason you give is - "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability" However, the guidelines state that schools are exempt from such a requirement. I agree the article is rather short at the moment but I hope it will be a collective effort from our community and therefore this is just the start. Verifcation has been given with the reference of the school's official website.

Please advise how we can move forward with this. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cikgubrian (talk • contribs) 17:08, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Arubianus

I am surprised by the stated reason for the rejection. The sources cites are identical to its German language version. If not enough than German page is also not good and needs better reference. I will look for more English source later to improve page and resubmit.

Was my English as submitted ok? 24.247.99.74 (talk) 04:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Murder of Elsie Lie

Hello! Your submission of Murder of Elsie Lie at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Rlendog (talk) 01:34, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

AFC

Hi, Bonkers. I'm just a little bit concerned you have a whole bunch of unanswered questions from people trying to submit articles through the AfC process. Do you plan to address these? We're all grateful for your help in AfC reviews, but I'm concerned your seemingly nonchalant attitude isn't necessarily what we need, as I've seen the odd complaint come in (example one example two). Could I politely request that when somebody questions your rationale for accepting or declining a submission, that you answer it in a prompt and diligent manner, and keep an eye on the help desk for questions coming in about submissions? AfC has come under a lot of strong criticism over the past couple of days, and I'm keen to see the general quality of reviewing improve to try and address that. Ritchie333 09:45, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes I honestly have no idea who they are and which article they are referring to. A little tiring to explain things that I think are covered in Misplaced Pages:My first article. I promptly and diligently ask questions that have been asked in a similar fashion. Thanks I will be improving ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:28, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't you be finding out who they are and which article they are referring to, then? I often find clicking on their contribs is a quick way of doing so - have you tried that?

What does "I promptly and diligently ask questions that have been asked in a similar fashion" mean, please? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:41, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Sonic characterization of marine species

Hi, I tagged this a few minutes ago as CSD#G12, as it is a copyvio of http://www.marinemammals.in/ and subpages of that site. The article was actually created yesterday as Sonic Classification of Marine Species of the Indian seas and deleted for the very same reason. I'm not sure why, but AFCBot removed the CSD tag just before you declined (yet again) this submission. However, copyvio is copyvio and cannot be allowed even in AFC space, so I guess this still should be speedied. You seem to be more familiar with AFC (I am not), so perhaps you jknow how to handle this. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 11:35, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up. I've tagged it as deemed fit. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:39, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

AfC (don't shoot the messenger)

Hi, Bonkers, theonesean here. Just wanted to thank you for all your awesome work at AfC. That being said, PArnold, a new reviewer, made the following comment on a dicsussion thread in which I gave him advice on how to improve his article. Take a read.

~ I just had one of the Misplaced Pages editors "Bonkers the Clown" just tell me my article is not Nobel enough and did not have enough reliable,verifiable secondary sources? Your thoughts? I almost get from "Bonkers the Clown talk page they are just out right rude to authors and other Misplaced Pages editors. — Preceding unsignedcomment added by PArnold (talk • contribs) 16:02, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Now, I don't know the full circumstances of this, and that's why I'm here. Do you have any recollection of this event? Could you fill me in as to the details? Thanks, theonesean 20:20, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Not sure about the nobility of his article, but you see, they tend to get upset when their articles are declined. I don't remember offending him, he's probably just sore about his article getting booed by me. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:48, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

How to submit an article to revision after modification?

I submitted my article "Automatic Systems" for the first time 10 days ago, unfortunately it was rejected so I modified the article and submitted it again. It was rejected again so I modified it one more time but now I cannot submit it to revision anymore and I don't know why...I already asked a question about my article problem on a talk page but no-one responded me...Please I really want to publish this article and I nedd help, thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmarraas (talk • contribs) 07:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

You Didn't Even Read it did you?... Pfftt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truth, reality and justice (talk • contribs) 09:13, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I read it and to be blunt I think it's crappy. Why capitalise the "He" and stuff. Do you have anything to do with him? See WP:COI. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I Have nothing to do with either subject but Algorythm BBC profile connects to the BBC profile of the subject I'm working on.

The article can be expaded, however Notablity is established by having singles on a MAJOR LABEL. Plus Mainstream Media Broadcast and substancial Playlist eveidence, which is all missing from the Algorythm article.

Thanks for your time Regards

Truth, reality and justice (talk) 09:31, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure Brush Up on the Article if You Would then. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

The editor is obviously missing your sarcasm, and doesn't understand that you find the excessive and erroneous use of capitals falls short. Why not be helpful, and actually say so?--~TPW 12:54, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

In defense, I did say so a bit above. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:00, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

What Would Be The Point When You Claim subject is not notable when clearly the subject Meets The golden Rule requirments. If you think the article does not have a enough susstance you should decline for that reason and not for Notablity Issues, which is being done by many reviewrs to put authors off and control what they (The Reviewer) would personally like to apear on Wikki as accepted.

Consistency is Highly important, these double standards lead speradic Wikkipedia with pathetic article being accepted like Algorithm's which has not established Notablity but has been accepted.

Regards

Truth, reality and justice (talk) 12:55, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm really sensing NPOV as well as poor education in the EL language in that tone of yours. Stop comparing your article with xyz's article. Based on this article's merits alone, I can confidently say every qualified reviewer would fail it. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:00, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Tone?... That would be the tone in your Head... Problem now clealry established.

Algorithm is not notable, where can I report? Reviewer should be banned, this is an abuse of Wikkipedia.

No time for worrying about typos and spelling when the recipent is childishly wasting my time... Make my point as fast as I can, You mention My English Language with attempt as Belittlement of me personally, this is a clever distraction. You are clearly emotionally involved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truth, reality and justice (talk) 13:24, 17 July 2013 (UTC) Truth, reality and justice (talk • contribs) 13:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

When I say "Tone", I'm not referring to the crappy song playing on my iPod now, I'm talking about you using crappy words like "Submission Is Superior ". If you didn't say otherwise, I would have really thought you were affiliated with our friend Ronnie Pollock. And do you have something against Algorithm? There is a platform on this website called "Misplaced Pages: Articles for Deletion", where you can bring up articles for consideration to be deleted. Scurry there if you must. I reference WP:OTHERCRAP (aptly titled) and ask you to stop comparing this with that. Each article is judged by its own merits. If you are unhappy with the way AfC works, publish it yourself, problem solved. Then you let me know and I will tag it for deletion. Easier. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

As a side note, en.wikipedia may not be that good a place for you to stay if you can't even master the Essentials Of the ENglish LAnguage, i.e. appropriately USing CAP LOCKS and your grammar. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm not going to publish articles I write myself, although it is clear that people like the author of the Algorithm article maybe getting away with such behaviour. I'm not comparing my article with others but rather attempting to highlight that there is an inconsitency in the reviewing process with regards to notablity. What is good for some ;) is clealry not good for the all and low quality Citations are being accepted on some articles and without establishing true notablity.

I'm not connected to Pollock Personally, there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. I'm clearly passionate about my stance regarding inconcistent requirments for Golden rule.

You say Wikki may not be for me, when it is supposed to be for everyone, for the benefit of everyone on the planet and is not supposed to be a social networking site / hangout where you can pretend to be cool and rack up some apprent status.

Thanks for letting me know where I can report the article I'm finding upsetting.

Truth, reality and justice (talk) 14:01, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for not signing your post. Now, go enjoy your early fishy dinner. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 09:46, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Too early for dinner haha. Man, it's not my habit to not sign. :/ ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia_talk:Articles for creation/NOW News

Hi Bonkers, I have a couple of questions regarding the submission you declined for NOW News. I understand that any submission to Misplaced Pages mustn't read like an advertisement but I fail to see how this does. We offer a very skeletal and abbreviated description of what the site is and its content within. Can you please shed some more light on where exactly you feel we are being slightly self-promoting?

NOW News is a news portal that was previously on Misplaced Pages as NOW Lebanon which has since expanded to include news beyond Lebanon and this new page will serve to let readers know that we offer both local Lebanese as well as regional news. We didn't want to update the previous page because the brand has been completely redesigned and operates under a new name.

Please let me know what specific changes need to be made, to which sections precisely to get this page online.--Rachedhaddad 11:14, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rachedhaaddaadd. The "Sections" section should vamoose and you can kindly remove those social media links. Resubmit and let's talk the talk. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi again, the Sections part and the social media link are removed as requested. Can you please check it. Thanks,--Rachedhaddad 08:52, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Your edit summaries on National Police Cadet Corps

Plip!

Please don’t use such words in edit summaries. It made it seem as if you were on a random blanking spree. I see a dozen entries like this in RC. Do you think i would think yours is a valid edit if it looks like vandalism? � (talk) 11:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Well now could you register my name in your brain's banks and the next time you see this name blanking stuff like this, you know it's not vandalism. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:54, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Because the universe revolves around one editor's sense of humor, which based on innumerable comments is largely out of sync? I'm sure that's going to happen.--~TPW 12:52, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I just noticed you added a speedy delete tag after an edit war. Apparently it is not done in good faith. Kindly behave like a civilised adult and do not abuse the good intentions of the system in wikipedia. And as for your claims that the entries are copied from the blog, did it ever come across your mind that the copying could have gone in the opposite direction? And just how "unique" do you expect a pledge or a list of units to be?--Huaiwei (talk) 14:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Articles for Creation: Joyou

Hi Bonkers, thanks for reviewing my submission Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Joyou. Following your advice, I have referenced additional sources since then. Unfortunately, my submission was declined again though. The recent reviewer was blocked for being a sockpuppet afterwards so I am unsure what to do. Would you have a look and give me some brief advice what I should probably change to meet your criteria for approval? Thanks a lot! Cheers, Pfandtasse (talk) 12:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Stop

I came here to give you some advice on how to interact better with Arctic Kangaroo (talk · contribs), on the basis that you called out a number of his bad AFC submissions and seemed like the more mature of the pair. Now I find you're belittling new editors and being generally uncivil. Stop it, now. People use AfC because they are new and need help. Wikilinking WP:OTHERCRAP, having a go at their spelling, and saying "Well now could you register my name in your brain's banks" is not acceptable. If you carry on, I predict either you, Arctic, or both will end up at WP:ANI, and I fear you will find it very difficult to untangle yourself from that situation. Ritchie333 14:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

What? I respect AK a lot. He is a talented editor and i did not intentionally single out his bad submissions. I just went by order of the submissions, systematically reviewing. It's just a coincidence... .__. Well, only time will tell. We'll see... Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 15:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Bonkers never insulted or look down on me before. Stop making up stories please, look at the situation first. We have chatted a lot with each other, so there a plenty of stuff for you to judge the two of us. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:09, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

No, you've misunderstood what I was getting it at. Bonkers, please don't insult editors (I don't mean AK in this instance), edit war and add spurious CSD tags to articles. And both of you, please read WP:COMPETENCE - I'm particularly annoyed at AK declining Sarah Franscesca Green, who I believe is inherently notable per WP:PROF and both myself and Huon had been working with the article's creator on the Help Desk. I have already dealt with two submissions Bonkers has declined on the help desk and I see a third query has just come in a few minutes ago. I'm not surprised the two of you hate me, I'm a father of two and my kids don't like it when I tell them off, but I'm honestly not having a go at you as people, I'm just saying your work at AfC has caused problems, and as Mdann52 has already said, I urge the pair of you to just go and take a break from it all before things get any worse. Ritchie333 15:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

And you have misunderstood me yet again. Go read the decline reason as well as my comment again. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Ritchie, you are actually a valuable contributor, but well, my impression of you has changed. I have to see something if my impression of you were to change. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Look, Please just drop the stick AK and Bonkers. My recommendation is that you stop participating in the drive for the time being. Mdann52 (talk) 16:21, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure, let's drop it. Ritchie I personally don't mind you "telling me off" because I get that a lot (only on this glorious encyclopedia). Only a few of my AfC submissions have been "bad". I see this as perfectly normal. Ok and for the so-called edit wars and "spurious" CSD tags, I feel it is not related to the AfC drive we are discussing, but if you need to know the truth, the war was just me removing some crappy lines and an editor who was too quick to press "Revert". I wanted to blow the page up and start from scratch, so I'd rather the thing be deleted. Back to AfC, I am a bit sorry the newbies failed to get my humour. I shall start giving them straight laced responses from now onwards. Fair enough? I'm fine with taking a rest for a while, but currently it appears that the other fish are not busy eating the growing pile of worms... ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:41, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

General notes about AfC (I'm not the messenger this time)

Bonkers, I know (by reading this page) that you're a jocular and funny guy. However, if you could be more direct and less jokey with the newbies who contact you about their articles, that would be awesome. Your (and all of our) purpose(s) at AfC is to help newbies write articles, and your joke-filled, indirect "nonsensical babble" isn't helping. If you want an example of how to deal with newbies well, check out Dodger67 (talk · contribs). He calmly and clearly explains what was wrong with the article and gave concrete steps to improve it. What you should do is, when a newbie, any newbie, contacts you about an article that was reviewed, you read their question or comment, and you respond. Calmly, civilly, and clearly. Give them links to essays and policy that pertains to their article and/or question. Give them advice on how to write better. Critique their article (nicely), and don't obfuscate the truth or make sarcastic remarks, because a lot of newbies are not familiar with Wikiculture and take things literally. Thank you. theonesean 17:45, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

So I'm expected to be serious, and at the same time make this place as friendly as gallivanting around the rainbow singing Kumbayah. I thought my sarcasm and everything of the like was very obvious. Guess there really are humourless people. Alright, I'll give them politically correct and straight laced answers in the future. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:32, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

I really don't think you're grasping the concept here. The new editors who submit articles at AfC are people, regular people like you or me. However, they're new to Misplaced Pages (which can be quite a daunting place at times), they're apprehensive, and in some cases they're scared. Anne Delong (talk · contribs) does a wonderful job writing comprehensive answers and helping newbies with their articles. Be direct, helpful, and complete in your answers. I noticed at the top at your page that you don't respond to anons. WP:IPs are human too. A large portion of AfC articles are created by IPs. Therefore, to do your job, you must respond to anons. It's probably good policy to respond to everybody who posts on your TP, barring vandalism or trolling. theonesean 01:54, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Chicken and duck blood soup

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Hello Bonkers. I hope you are doing fine. You have rejected my article titled " Wafiq Jizzini" saying that this person is not notable. I have reviwed the Military Notability Guide and this is what I got:

In general, an individual is presumed to be notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple verifiable independent, reliable sources.

In particular, individuals will almost always have sufficient coverage to qualify if they:

1.Were awarded their nation's highest award for valour; or
2.Were awarded their nation's second-highest award for valour (such as the Navy Cross) multiple times; or
3.Held a rank considered to be a flag, general or air officer, or their historical equivalents; or
4.Held the top-level military command position of their nation's armed forces (such as Chief of the General Staff), or of a department thereof (such as Chief of Army Staff); or
5.Played an important role in a significant military event; or
6.Commanded a substantial body of troops in combat; or
7.Made a material contribution to military science that is indisputably attributed to them; or
8.Were the undisputed inventor of a form of military technology which significantly changed the nature of or conduct of war; or
9.Were recognized by their peers as an authoritative source on military matters/writing.

Wafiq Jizzini complies with points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 9. In addition, my references are the Official Lebanese Army website and the Official Lebanese General Security Forces Website and two reputable newspapers. Moreover, Wafiq Jizzini has his name and signature on every Lebanese Passport Issued during the period when he was the Chief of General Security in Lebanon.

Please advise what your opinion is. Thanks, 5.245.105.94 (talk) 08:38, 18 July 2013 (UTC)MJ

(stalking) Hi. I can confirm the article's subject is inherently notable per our guidelines for military personnel - the mention in the Lebanese government source confirming his post is sufficient. I have passed your submission, but would recommend joining Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military History as they will be able to assist you further. Ritchie333 11:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

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Declining AfC articles as "ads"

Hi Bonkers, I noticed that you failed 1 of my AfC accepts with the reason that it read like an advert. I just wanna tell you that some of them that read like ads just have to be accepted, as it can't be helped. For one example, see Mike Feerick. Please reconsider the fail. Thanks. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 14:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Mm, sorry but whatcha mean by "can't be helped"? I think it's a legit reason to fail... ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 14:46, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

If you look at Mike Feerick, it's impossible to find a way to write it such that it does not sound like an ad. So that's something that you need to consider when reviewing "ads". BTW, Mike Feerick is passed by the guy who made us fed up. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 14:49, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

I rather not rekindle the argument... Why not? It's actually possible and I could do it if I wanted to. Example: A section header "Social and Community Initiatives" is utterly redundant. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 14:55, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Crime in Sri Lanka

Hi there. I've done some more work on Crime in Sri Lanka based on the nom page comments. I removed the "War crimes" section and added a bullet for Alleged war crimes during the final stages of the Sri Lankan Civil War in the "See also" section, which has improved the 'balance' issue mentioned by an article reviewer. But the article still lacks a historical perspective and statistics, which, I think are necessary. I think the hook is unacceptable and have stated such on the nom page but I don't find anything hooky with the remaining content; perhaps you have an idea? As is, the reviewer finds the topic coverage to be patchy; I agree. I'd recommend either dealing with the recommendations or withdrawing the nomination because, as is, it's not promotable. Perhaps you'd like to comment at Template:Did you know nominations/Crime in Sri Lanka?--Rosiestep (talk) 15:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Page for Creation Review: Acharya Shri Chandanaji

I created the page Acharya Shri Chandanaji that you reviewed. I am working on the 'peacock terms' and the desired formal tone but I also wanted to know if more than 10 sources are absolutely imperative for the article to go public since I have seen some articles that possess not even that. I have added a couple of more links to make sure it's reliable content but do let me know if more sources shall be needed. Thanks! And an early reply would be highly appreciated :) Anupriya19 (talk) 17:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)Anupriya19

DYK for Murder of Darren Ng

On 19 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Murder of Darren Ng, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the murder of Darren Ng has been described as one of "Singapore's most gruesome murders"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Darren Ng. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Aaah! So this alt was promoted. I guess the preping admin didn't notice new alt provided. Never mind now. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:07, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Murder of Liu Hong Mei

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Submission of reviewed article

Hello,

I wrote 2 messages on Misplaced Pages's forum the past 2 weeks about my article submission but I got no answer. Actually I submitted my article Automatic Systems twice to revision but it has been rejected, so I modified it again and now I just cannot submit it anymore and I don't know why, the only thing I can do is "Save the Page", please can anyone help me? Thank you very much!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmarraas (talk • contribs) 06:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Benjamin Anderson (adventurer)

On 23 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Benjamin Anderson (adventurer), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that explorer Benjamin Anderson served as the Liberian treasury's comptroller and secretary from 1964 to 1966, and was charged with embezzlement of its funds? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Benjamin Anderson (adventurer). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 00:03, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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Mount Elbert

Hi, I think you wrote the geological history paragraph for this article. Would you mind citing it, with a bit of work I think we could get this up to GA.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 18:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure, no prob. Give me some time though, I'm rather busy with stuff in real life. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 08:44, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Icephobicity

Hello, Bonkers The Clown.

Could you please provide a bit more specific commnets on why the article "Icephobicity" was rejected? The comments says:

"This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner."

However, the submission DOES summarize the secondary reliable sources (see references), DOES NOT contain opinions or original research and writes about the topic from a neutral point of view. Could you please provide more specifics on which parts of the article read more like an essay than an encyclopedia article? That would help a lot. I wrote and edited in the past articles for various encyclopedias and handbooks (e.g., Springer's Encyclopedia of Nanotechnology) and in my opinion this submission is in an encyclopedic manner. However, I am new in Misplaced Pages and may misunderstand standards here. So, if you could please provide more comments to me, that would be of great help.

Thanks in advance for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duchifat (talk • contribs) 08:20, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Death by coconut

Thanks for starting Death by coconut. I saw it at DYK and found it quite intriguing. I've become a bit obsessed with it, as you can see from my edits over the past day. If I've included or changed anything that you think is inappropriate, feel free to modify. If you find any other weirdly-interesting topics on which you would like to have a collaborator, feel free to drop me a note. Cbl62 (talk) 17:41, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I really do appreciate it! :) Now you're making me feel bad for not putting in more research time... Thanks for helping beef up the content. I daresay its near GA-class now. Please put yourself in the DYK credits, if you have not done so. Sure thing, Cbl. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 03:53, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Wee Kheng Chiang

On 26 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wee Kheng Chiang, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Wee Kheng Chiang, the founder of United Overseas Bank, was described as the "undisputed King of Sarawak"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wee Kheng Chiang. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 22:18, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Hinduism in Karnataka

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:32, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Animal furniture for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Animal furniture is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Animal furniture until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. teb00007 14:44, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Death by coconut

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:19, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

An absolutely wonderful article! Smallbones_(smalltalk) 11:10, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Coconuts

I left a link in my edit summary, but this one (page 207) makes it even more explicit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh. I didn't know Newsweek was into joke sections. ;/ My bad. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 08:44, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

• "The best satire is often indistinguishable from reality". (not everyone agrees, but anyways) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:49, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Haha, I think there must be a level of incredulity though... The coconut one seemed plausible, so I did not check if it were real or not, especially since it was a Newsweek piece. I've added back the content, just to different sections. Hopefully that would work. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 08:56, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, saw that and made one small change (as there is no evidence that was ever a real issue) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:03, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

• I was going to remove that but somehow I didn't. Thanks! ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of TWG Tea

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DYK nomination of The Baby-Roast

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DYK for Murder of Liu Hong Mei

On 30 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Murder of Liu Hong Mei, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in the murder of Liu Hong Mei, the victim's body was deposited into various boxes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Liu Hong Mei. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 00:04, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Huang Zunxian

On 30 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Huang Zunxian, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the paper Korea Strategy by Huang Zunxian (pictured) has been described as "a work of destiny that determined the modern history of East Asia"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Huang Zunxian. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Precious

decay of fiction
Thank you, flirting clown that eats lettuce with barbecue sauce and steamed ice cream, has a nice infobox and an amazing number of spouses, for quality articles such as The Decay of Fiction and Huang Zunxian, and for inspiring reviews, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much. It is an honour. :> ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 12:25, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 July newsletter

We're halfway through this year's penultimate round, and the competition is moving along well. Pool A's Sasata (submissions) currently leads overall, while Pool B's Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) is second. Both leaders are WikiCup veterans, and both have already scored over 600 points this month. If the round were to end today, Miyagawa (submissions), with 274 points, would be the lowest-scoring participant to make it through. This indicates that participants will need a score comparable to last year's (573, the highest ever) to qualify for the final. The high scores this year are a testament both to the quality of participants and to the increased focus on significant content (eligible for bonus points) in this year's competition. So far this round, both Sasata and Cwmhiraeth (submissions) have made up over half of their score through bonus points, with, for example, high importance FA koala earning Sasata a total of 440 points (from a multiplier of 4.4) and high-importance GA sea earning Cwmhiraeth a total of 216 points (from a multiplier of 7.2). Other articles on important topics submitted this round include a featured article on the Norman conquest of England by Ealdgyth (submissions), and good articles on Nobel laureate in literature Henryk Sienkiewicz, Nobel laureate in physics Hans Bethe, and the noted Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū. These articles are by Piotrus (submissions), Hawkeye7 (submissions) and Sturmvogel_66 respectively.

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