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It happens all the time. A person who is non-notable by Wikipedian standards creates a website or webpage. To create some traffic, (s)he creates an article here. The vanity page consists of ravings, exaggerations and unverifiable facts. Basic demographics are not included. Next we, Misplaced Pages editors, start looking for leads about this person, demographics etcetera, for verification, NPOVing and notability. The page becomes a knowledge-base on the person. However, the person does not like his birth-names, birth-date, a linked page with information about the dip in his career and/or other biographic facts and (s)he starts trolling through ], ], sockpoppeting, dumping ridiculous threats of legal action etcetera. In some cases, e.g. ], notability is then stretched somewhat to prove the point that the person cannot remove the page and we decide on the content. I have always claimed that this is a wrong course of action. A biography of a non-notable person should be deleted regardless of his behavior. We have not succeeded verifying ]'s "nr 1 hit" in Italy, his implying that he was part of Cats was imprecise and he is not mentioned anywhere in the ]. '''I suggest deleting the article for non-notability.''' ] 17:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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*'''Delete'''This is all very interesting yet boring and inconsequential at the same time. There is so much in this world that needs attention yet you continue to be obseesed with me. HMMMM. Get a clue. Have a nice life! ] 02:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
**'''Comment''' for the closing administrator: Please flush this toilet and make a note of how stupid this open editorship can be. ] 02:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Mrozinski
It happens all the time. A person who is non-notable by Wikipedian standards creates a website or webpage. To create some traffic, (s)he creates an article here. The vanity page consists of ravings, exaggerations and unverifiable facts. Basic demographics are not included. Next we, Misplaced Pages editors, start looking for leads about this person, demographics etcetera, for verification, NPOVing and notability. The page becomes a knowledge-base on the person. However, the person does not like his birth-names, birth-date, a linked page with information about the dip in his career and/or other biographic facts and (s)he starts trolling through vandalism, edit wars, sockpoppeting, dumping ridiculous threats of legal action etcetera. In some cases, e.g. Monica de Bruyn, notability is then stretched somewhat to prove the point that the person cannot remove the page and we decide on the content. I have always claimed that this is a wrong course of action. A biography of a non-notable person should be deleted regardless of his behavior. We have not succeeded verifying Mrozinski's "nr 1 hit" in Italy, his implying that he was part of Cats was imprecise and he is not mentioned anywhere in the All Music Guide. I suggest deleting the article for non-notability. gidonb 17:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- See also: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/24/24 World Concert gidonb 18:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- See also: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Monica de Bruyn (2)
- Delete per nom gidonb 17:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment in a template and at several talk pages, Mrozinski requested that this article would be deleted. I moved this comment from the article itself: This is Mrozinski, the subject of this article, and I wish this article deleted because several editors keep changing information, adding unauthorized and incorrect information. This is a violation of my rights and privacy and I wish it to be removed. I will have to resort to legal action against Misplaced Pages and its editors if this abuse is not stopped. Mrozinski 14:32, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, and copyvio of this. M1ss1ontomars2k4 18:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. What more can be said? Let the man take his ball and go home. GentlemanGhost 19:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Thank you for your "kind" comments. May God have mercy on your petty soul. Please do me a favor and delete this article ASAP. Mrozinski 19:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- You are welcome! ;-) Please note that if the AfD is successful, the article and its talk page will be purged. This service page, however, will remain part of Misplaced Pages. gidonb 19:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom Mrozinski 19:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment for the closing administrator: Please note that this user was created today and does not have sufficient votes to participate in the vote. He is, however, the subject of the article and its creator as user:2424. gidonb 19:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Let's delete it the correct way.--Kungfu Adam 19:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, and don't forget Image:Mrozinski.jpg too. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 20:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete nom summed it up pretty well, page author also wants it deleted now.--Andeh 20:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable and unverifiable. -- Kjkolb 20:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Delete per nom Mrozinski 21:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)- Comment for the closing administrator: Please note that this has become a forum and as a result, an indictment for the flaws in the system. Allowing anyone to become an "editor" is obviously unworkable, as anyone with access to a PC can change information, give misguided opinions and/or allow themselves to be self-appointed watchdogs of information for the "public good". I feel that gidonb and GentlemanGhost and their ilk have turned Misplaced Pages into a public forum rather than a source of information. Sorry that this once reliable source has become bastardized, but I suppose that's what happens when you allow access to anyone, however unqualified. Mrozinski 21:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment for Mrozinski: You brought this on yourself by creating the thing in the first place. The "flaw in the system" that allows anyone to be an editor is what allowed you to be an editor. Fan1967 01:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment for the closing administrator: Please note that this has become a forum and as a result, an indictment for the flaws in the system. Allowing anyone to become an "editor" is obviously unworkable, as anyone with access to a PC can change information, give misguided opinions and/or allow themselves to be self-appointed watchdogs of information for the "public good". I feel that gidonb and GentlemanGhost and their ilk have turned Misplaced Pages into a public forum rather than a source of information. Sorry that this once reliable source has become bastardized, but I suppose that's what happens when you allow access to anyone, however unqualified. Mrozinski 21:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete in the interests of trying to suppress the truth. Hooray for half-baked conspiracy theories as per above comment. Let me suggest just deleting all the comments from the article's creator and keeping his only valid vote. Danny Lilithborne 00:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Delete because of the bullshit as seen above. Misplaced Pages is no longer a source of objective information. May you all get a life. Mrozinski 00:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)- Duplicate vote. I'd also like to point out that it's our insistence at keeping articles like this that anger the subjects and give Misplaced Pages a bad name. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 01:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete nn. Fan1967 01:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: just to annoy Mrozinski. Mind you, you can buy his single on ebay.it for a mere €1.60; what does that tell you? --die Baumfabrik 02:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete What it tells me ("just to annoy Mrozinski") is that you have no life and have too much time on your hands to research someone you think is not notable and that Misplaced Pages has degenerated into a forum of bored asholes. Mrozinski 02:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Duplicate vote. I'd also like to point out that it's our insistence at keeping articles like this that anger the subjects and give Misplaced Pages a bad name. --M1ss1ontomars2k4